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digrar
08-18-2005, 11:10 PM
Nice to see that some procurement people are looking at what the soldiers are buying themselves and acting on it.


By the left or right, Sir? The Army shows off its new commando pants
By Catriona Davies
(Filed: 19/08/2005)

The modern soldier has the best in high-tech weaponry, satellite navigation and lightweight combat clothing, but until now there has been one thing missing from the kit bag: sensible underpants for hot climates.

Enter "combat underwear", the first army-issue smalls since the 1960s, designed to look after the - ahem - privates better than their civilian equivalents.

The Army unveiled its underpants yesterday as part of its new range of desert clothing, the first large-scale redesign of kit since the first Gulf war.

"These will make 'going commando' a thing of the past," said Col Silas Suchanek, the head of defence clothing for the Ministry of Defence, holding up the black trunk-style pants, but sensibly refusing to model them.

He said: "In the past, underwear has been treated as a personal item, but our experience in Iraq has been that if men didn't bring enough pairs with them and they wore out, they went commando.

"These won't be compulsory, but we think most people will be much more comfortable wearing them than not. It's a long time since we issued underwear. We used to have 'drawers' but they fell out of fashion in the 1960s."

The pants have been made from an artificial anti-microbial fabric and have been treated to prevent infections. They are also seamless to reduce chafing.

For now, the pants come only in men's style, but servicewomen will be free to wear the pants until ladies' briefs are developed.

"We will be looking at the women's issue as well but for the time being they are unisex," said Col Suchanek.

The Army's new desert kit includes partly bulletproof sunglasses

The Army also demonstrated boots with soles that can withstand temperatures of 300C (572F). There had been rumours that the old boots had melted in the Iraqi desert. Major John Stoddart, in charge of footwear, handwear and sensory protection, said: "It wasn't true that they melted but the soles did start to crumble over time, due to a chemical reaction that was accelerated by heat."

Also on show were partly bullet-proof sunglasses, goggles, water carriers with a tube straight into the mouth and filters so they can be filled with dirty water, and sleeping bags that adapt to hot or cold weather.

Much of the kit has been developed by incorporating items that soldiers are already buying for themselves.

Sgt Paul Buckley, modelling the kit, said: "The kit we are getting now is stuff that we used to buy. The Army has finally cottoned that what the lads are buying is good kit, so now the Army is buying it for us."

Col Suchanek said: "We are continually looking to take advantage of new technologies and new fabrics. It's all about balancing the best new kit with what's cost-effective."

Erik2a4
08-18-2005, 11:46 PM
I had this conversation the other day with a peer in a non-Infantry occupation.

He could not believe that we don't wear underwear. :lol:

HoboWithAK
08-19-2005, 12:27 AM
I sure as **** hope it is a silk based product or something similar, so you don't melt down there. That would be very bad, IED or rocket attack or whatever, and you come off with minor scrapes and bruises and now your underpants are a permanent part of your stuff.

Creeper
08-19-2005, 01:13 AM
Hmm, old commando gig may not be "ideal" anylonger, but it dependent upon many factors auctually.
If I am around a few female troopers- commando definetly :lol:

but who knows

Ngati Tumatauenga
08-19-2005, 02:29 AM
When your ********s turn a musty shade of green its natures way of telling you to go commando. :lol:

Its already a hot and humid place down there. Take it somewhere even more hot and humid and you will have, ahem, issues....

Also chafing sucks.

digrar
08-19-2005, 02:45 AM
It's always amusing to see a patrol come back, every man with his fly down to stimulate airflow and not a pair of thighs to be seen touching amongst them. :P

TacoDelRio
08-19-2005, 04:10 AM
I never really had any problems. I wear those "tighty-brownies", brown briefs made for DCSP or whoever procures it. Boxers = nutfire.

Then again maybe I don't have balls. Just when I move, you know. They serve as a field expedient chair when I sit down. ;)

PrincessRAR
08-19-2005, 04:56 AM
when i first was a grunt i wore jocks - and i got the worst crotch rot ever - from then on i have alawys gone commando. I have never had problem with chaffing again.

The tights we get are poor - they trap the heat in a cuase bactaeria to multiply - aswell as those we have army jocks but they arent much chop.

nothing beats ol jim and the twins living loud and loose.

Erik2a4
08-19-2005, 06:55 AM
It's always amusing to see a patrol come back, every man with his fly down to stimulate airflow and not a pair of thighs to be seen touching amongst them. :P

I was just thinking of that! That's the standard for a foot march: fly down, so that with every step the air moves through out the uniform; and then the John Wayne walk for a good while after... :D

As for the "tighty-brownies"....


Bwahahahahahahahaha! :lol:

You are a no-go at this station... :P

Royal
08-19-2005, 07:24 AM
Commando all the way...

California Joe
08-19-2005, 10:39 AM
*waiting for sergey to post a scientific study about how tighty whiteys are best for combat patrols* p-)

Catch22
08-19-2005, 10:52 AM
I'm all for nature, but zip fly can present a danger (as it is with our combat pants, or german, dutch or french ones). Almost got caught once or twice. ;)

scrybe
08-19-2005, 01:59 PM
Compression shorts.

Batfink
08-19-2005, 02:07 PM
Going commando is the way forward. Besides, the smaller he gets, the smaller the chance of having him shot off is!! However, I'll only do it in my old 90 Patt trousers - the 95's are far too thin, and the gorse and nettles can penetrate a little bit too far!!!

This chap looks pleased as punch with his new shreddies! I suspect he'll go commando in the future!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/news%20photos/Brit1.jpg

BadKarma26
08-19-2005, 04:46 PM
i NEVER wear underwear in the field

Virus
08-19-2005, 06:57 PM
under....wear?

chauncy republicans
08-19-2005, 11:03 PM
commando + www.squeakycheeks.com

Sabre
08-20-2005, 08:30 AM
I seem to be against the trend! Nike Dri fit running shorts are the way forward. Silk for anything serious, but nike for everything else.

Got the shock of my life when I saw that bloke in Brit DPM! I thought it was an aussie article. Can't believe they are going to issue personal items!

digrar
08-20-2005, 08:50 AM
I'm still wearing issued jocks and socks from a deployment in 2000 and that's after sending half of our personal stuff down to the Kiwi's because they're underprivileged. :P

Ngati Tumatauenga
08-20-2005, 11:05 AM
We got bored with stealing your kit outright and decided to use a little phsycology instead. Not that it was a challenge really...

But still, wearing your undy's for five straight years?.....even for an Aussie thats a little extreme dig. p-)

digrar
08-20-2005, 11:26 AM
Mate we have washing machines over here on the big island, bashing them on a rock in the nearest river like you have to do in New Zealand would wear them out a lot quicker. :P

On a side note, I think we are the worst Rugby playing nation in the world, we're progressivley becoming crap at cricket and my Aussie rules team got belted today, if they weren't on top of the ladder things would be looking pretty grim. :(