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TheEvian100
09-11-2009, 09:35 PM
The National Defense Chief of Staff and the Army's Chief of Staff inspecting Special Forces:
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9672/1copyoz.jpg

Dark Avenger
09-12-2009, 05:51 AM
From the Batajnica 2009 International Air Show (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=164432) thread:
http://www.armyinfoforum.org/Armyblog//Blog%20fotke/poseta_batajnici_sutanovac/Picture-102.jpg
http://www.armyinfoforum.org/Armyblog//Blog%20fotke/poseta_batajnici_sutanovac/Picture-103.jpghttp://www.armyinfoforum.org/Armyblog//Blog%20fotke/poseta_batajnici_sutanovac/Picture-115.jpg

YANKEEBOBB
09-12-2009, 10:27 AM
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5135/scan0016kn.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3549/scan0017oi.jpg
Shot at 2009-09-12

Diogenes
09-12-2009, 11:30 AM
frape rulesrofl


thanks YankeeBobb nice article.

TheEvian100
09-12-2009, 02:39 PM
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5295/61639216.jpg

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2466/38118918.jpg

******* Pictures - 6 hours ago A rescuer hangs from a helicopter over a flooded area near the Chalkida town, northeast of Athens September 12, 2009. A policeman on his way to work drowned in his car and several people were trapped in their homes after flash floods hit parts of central Greece overnight on Saturday, the fire department service said.

TheArmenian
09-12-2009, 02:45 PM
Nice photos.

Icarus_222
09-12-2009, 06:50 PM
Something that really bothers me with the Army.

- I rarely see photos of Greek soldiers with proper body armour. HELLO! WTF? Spend some God damned money on the proper equipment!

iloxos
09-12-2009, 07:48 PM
We are buying BMP-3s ;)

Diogenes
09-12-2009, 08:27 PM
Something that really bothers me with the Army.

- I rarely see photos of Greek soldiers with proper body armour. HELLO! WTF? Spend some God damned money on the proper equipment!

let's stop paying politicians for a year and buy dragon skin with these money:)

TheEvian100
09-12-2009, 09:04 PM
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3826/72217473.jpg

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/8997/24263621.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/813/69079933.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3103/60397230.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9666/39396902.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/16/55314310.jpg

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9146/62133191.jpg

TheEvian100
09-12-2009, 09:11 PM
Another Hellenic Air Army Aviation & HAF update:
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7151/93284173.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/870/24300964.jpg

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8127/87648895.jpg

iloxos
09-13-2009, 12:01 PM
body armor for cops for the olympics.

i don't really think greece needs body armor at the time. the chances to meet face to face turkish infantry are very slim. its better to spend the money in force multipliers.

Icarus_222
09-13-2009, 05:35 PM
body armor for cops for the olympics.

i don't really think greece needs body armor at the time. the chances to meet face to face turkish infantry are very slim. its better to spend the money in force multipliers.

Rubbish! Fancy F-16s and Mirages but no money to outfit troops with the basic requirements.

I must say, I'm shocked that all Defence magazines and press don't raise an issue and ask why these basic and necessary articles of war are absent in most Greek units.

And please no one give me nonsense about "body armour is issued on as as needed basis". The Army daily 24/7/365 business is war, and in war soldiers need the proper protection.

Compare pics of Greek soldiers in Afghanistan with any number of other ISAF forces. Or better yet, look at the Poles and Spanish who were in Iraq and see what properly outfitted troops look like.

Diogenis
09-13-2009, 06:28 PM
It is because all greek defence magazines serve a special internal political party or a foreign arms supplier.
There is not ONE serious defence magazine in greece,this is for sure.

iloxos
09-14-2009, 03:31 AM
you will say that greece spends no money in body armor??? i dont think so.
maybe in the future... siamidis has some nice products and not only for foreign-armies, or not?!
the early past show ME that bodyarmor is in potential war-scenario very necessery!
even the ancient hellenic warriors had bodyarmor...(:
p.s. you never know how it comes

Greeks do not need body armour because:
1. Chances of warfare are slim
2. Chances of warfare with an army that fights close distance (3rd world "opium" troops) are slim
3. Chances of warfare in an urban area are slim. None is going to invade Edirne (Andrianoupolis)

Since modern warfare shows that only 10% of the enemy and friendlies die from small caliber weapons, buying 600,000 kits it totally expensive and ... useless.
Greek infantry dogma is totally different from western european or american due to the terren (Ancient Greeks fought when MLRS didn't exist)

Body armor against artillery is useful but again Infantry command sees no need for that. They don't see turkish artillery as a threat probably...
As an infantry officer i also find body armor a waste of money. None can storm a hill with more that 10 kilos of kits on him and 5-6 are the weaponry.


Rubbish! Fancy F-16s and Mirages but no money to outfit troops with the basic requirements.
I must say, I'm shocked that all Defence magazines and press don't raise an issue and ask why these basic and necessary articles of war are absent in most Greek units.
And please no one give me nonsense about "body armour is issued on as as needed basis". The Army daily 24/7/365 business is war, and in war soldiers need the proper protection.
Compare pics of Greek soldiers in Afghanistan with any number of other ISAF forces. Or better yet, look at the Poles and Spanish who were in Iraq and see what properly outfitted troops look like.

Defence magazines are private owned cooperations made to make profit. They are not the official opinion of Hellas.
Plus some students of journalism in IEK-Gavdos with 9 months in navy, washing dishes, can not have an opinion in military matters.

As i said Greek Infantry Command thinks body armor is useless.

As for Afghanistan:. When was the last time someone shot at a UN/NATO greek soldier??? Remember??? Back in… Korea.
That tells us two thinks: They don't see the medical and engineering troops as enemy and they don't shoot at people that they don't see as enemy for 60 years
Greeks in afghanistan are not there to invade or kill “terrorists” but to help and save lives. If it was possible they wouldn't even carry weapons or wear uniforms. Loosing 2 million people the last 100 years made greeks value human lives and hate wars.

PS Poles and Spanish have armies to fight "terrorists" not other NATO armies. How long do you think they could stand against 1st Turkish Army??? 3-4 hours???


It is because all greek defence magazines serve a special internal political party or a foreign arms supplier.There is not ONE serious defence magazine in greece,this is for sure.

Hellenic Defence is the most worthy but sometimes it has some b***** too.
Military is an organisation made in secrecy not open information. Not mentioning that you can check its abilities AFTER a war.

chris450
09-14-2009, 06:17 AM
Chances of warfare are slim
2. Chances of warfare with an army that fights close distance (3rd world "opium" troops) are slim
3. Chances of warfare in an urban area are slim. None is going to invade Edirne (Andrianoupolis)so basically you are telling us that we are depending purely on luck?and IF despite the slim chances war does break out,what then?you cant be serious

If Greek infantry command (and i stress IF) thinks body armor is "useless" then they should stop operating on the basis of 40 year old Army manuals ,and adapt to the needs of 21rst century warfare (like they one that they are preparing to fight,if need be)

Icarus is right, the equipment of infatry soldiers (boots,camos,webbing) is of extremely poor quality and so is infantry training , that is a sign some blokes up high in the hierarchy have yet to grasp the meaning of the words basic soldiering.They too can not have an opinion in military matters ,since they behave and think like public servants (and potential MPs) and not soldiers

Thank god the new A/GES is moving rapidly towards the exactly opposite direction.A new infantry training center is due in the near future


Loosing 2 million people the last 100 years made greeks value human lives and hate wars.That is wonderfull! Lets ***** them of their G-3s and give them flowers instead!

Forgive me for the tone iloxos,but "valuing life" and "not wanting war" is the driving force for building up proper deterence.Exactly because you want to avoid war .Si vis pacem para bellum as they used to say

and btw if someone "values life" the first thing he does is to provide some basic means of protection to the troops,make them feel the brass is not treating them like cannon fodder .


That tells us two thinks: They don't see the medical and engineering troops as enemy and they don't shoot at people that they don't see as enemy for 60 yearsI am sad to see the irrational leftist rhetoric find its way into a military forum.When you send troops,you send troops.When you dont want to send troops but "peace loving men in uniform" ,people die. Pure and simple,this way of thinking gets you killed in a warzone

I dont know if you have seen this ,if dont do check it out (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62123)
http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/9762/isaf2r4hh.jpg

Btw the Greek Army is urgently looking for a number of MRAP vehicles ,so that scenes like the one above wont lead to casualties among our troops

hulaku
09-14-2009, 06:26 AM
I have always loved the pics of the Hellenic Armed forces. Great pics

@iloxos
Just curious about this term used by you ie 3rd world "opium" troops

Can you explain this term to me?

You can PM me if you want.

Thanks

Icarus_222
09-14-2009, 06:32 AM
As i said Greek Infantry Command thinks body armor is useless.




If this is their reasoning they should seriously consider dusting off the Warsaw Pact invasion plans and contingencies.

Why is it every modern military has concluded the exact opposite? Have we figured it out and they are idiots?

I've seen pages after pages, and aside from the special forces, the regular forces look under equipped to say the least. Let's no beat around the bush when it comes to the Army. I mean, THANK GOD for the Navy and Air Force if you get my drift.

And while they're looking at proper armour and personal kit, how about evaluating some modern camo? The Lizard pattern is how old now, 30 years?

Greek soldier
09-14-2009, 06:56 AM
Greeks do not need body armour because:
1. Chances of warfare are slim
2. Chances of warfare with an army that fights close distance (3rd world "opium" troops) are slim
3. Chances of warfare in an urban area are slim. None is going to invade Edirne (Andrianoupolis)

Slim? Says who? I see completely the opposite.

@Icarus_22: The Lizard camo is perfect for the Greek environment, no need to change pattern. What must change is the quality of the uniform and of the M65 field jacket.

As for the Greek leather boots, during my service I didn't have a problem, although I would prefer wearing some top quality ones (Haix, Bates, Lowa) 'cos the Greek ones weren't as water and cold-weather resistant as they should be.

iloxos
09-14-2009, 07:51 AM
so basically you are telling us that we are depending purely on luck?and IF despite the slim chances war does break out,what then?you cant be serious

my friend with our foreign department ("zeibekiko + komparoi" school) do you really believe we are going for a war?
all the scenarios are for a 2-3 days warm episode defending, based upon air force and navy. Thats why command doesn't spend a dime on infantry or engineers...



If Greek infantry command (and i stress IF) thinks body armor is "useless" then they should stop operating on the basis of 40 year old Army manuals ,and adapt to the needs of 21rst century warfare (like they one that they are preparing to fight,if need be)
]Icarus is right, the equipment of infatry soldiers (boots,camos,webbing) is of extremely poor quality and so is infantry training , that is a sign some blokes up high in the hierarchy have yet to grasp the meaning of the words basic soldiering.They too can not have an opinion in military matters ,since they behave and think like public servants (and potential MPs) and not soldiers


my friend they don't think they are going to fight a modern war...or even a war as I said.
Politicians and ass kissers are armys worst enemy.


Thank god the new A/GES is moving rapidly towards the exactly opposite direction.A new infantry training center is due in the near future

The training got so pumped-up from the previous A/GES that our troops became Rambos... come on Chris... do you think anything will change???
only if we LOOSE a war...

the new infantry centre will be needed when the 12 infantry regiments/battalions will have less than 100 people each to train (with 9 months duty).



That is wonderfull! Lets ***** them of their G-3s and give them flowers instead!

Do you know personally anyone who has fired his weapon in UN/NATO missions?
Why behave like an @@@ when you have orders to help???


Forgive me for the tone iloxos,but "valuing life" and "not wanting war" is the driving force for building up proper deterence.Exactly because you want to avoid war .Si vis pacem para bellum as they used to say
and btw if someone "values life" the first thing he does is to provide some basic means of protection to the troops,make them feel the brass is not treating them like cannon fodder .

We value life by not attacking anyone. We value deterrence by having military similar to a large rich west european state. We just dont value aggression. Some dont understand that and they stay outside EU starving.



I am sad to see the irrational leftist rhetoric find its way into a military forum.When you send troops,you send troops.When you dont want to send troops but "peace loving men in uniform" ,people die. Pure and simple,this way of thinking gets you killed in a warzone
I dont know if you have seen this ,if dont do check it out (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62123)

Come on chris... leftist??? Please don't insult me. I am not a person to speak against the army but I am realistic with the governments and the funding we get. I didnt became an officer in f@@ infantry for hating our army.

I am telling you again: where did people fired at us??

My cousin was in Afghanistan at that time. If we are speaking for the same incident he told me that the bombers thought they were not Greek but German. No Greek fired a weapon back. The next day the engineering company continued its work as usual.

PS I believe that we ever send 33rd Mech-Brigade in Afghanistan as a strike force it will be extremely underequipped. But 33rd expects orders since 2002 ;) Is Giorgos going to send army in A-stan??? Dora???


Btw the Greek Army is urgently looking for a number of MRAP vehicles ,so that scenes like the one above wont lead to casualties among our troops

Hope so. Our vehicles are not made to carry medicines in mined roads.


@iloxos
Just curious about this term used by you ie 3rd world "opium" troops
Can you explain this term to me?You can PM me if you want.Thanks

A third world country had attacked us once using opium drugged troops in close distance due their inability to fight a modern war.
PS we had not artillery or airforce.


If this is their reasoning they should seriously consider dusting off the Warsaw Pact invasion plans and contingencies.
Why is it every modern military has concluded the exact opposite? Have we figured it out and they are idiots?
I've seen pages after pages, and aside from the special forces, the regular forces look under equipped to say the least. Let's no beat around the bush when it comes to the Army. I mean, THANK GOD for the Navy and Air Force if you get my drift.
And while they're looking at proper armour and personal kit, how about evaluating some modern camo? The Lizard pattern is how old now, 30 years?

Greek military command equips troops after its needs. They dont expect a war and if war happens it will be against a similar enemyIf in our borders were hostile-Germans we would train-equip differently. ;)
Modern military are trained based on professionals and not a large reserve conscript army. We dont even have an enemy

Camo is good for the ground we have. We need of course a different uniform like the modern US marine. And a new rifle (FN made), boots etc. Body armor can be optional for the ASDEN coastal defence battalions.

iloxos
09-14-2009, 07:55 AM
Slim? Says who? I see completely the opposite.

Who is going to attack??? ;)

Femto
09-14-2009, 09:41 AM
Iloxos lets drop the subject completely its after all a photos-video thread .

iloxos
09-14-2009, 10:09 AM
sorry...

if anyone wants the discussion to go on we can contact the mods in another thread

chris450
09-14-2009, 10:14 AM
my friend with our foreign department ("zeibekiko + komparoi" school) do you really believe we are going for a war?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vyacheslav_Molotov

the answer to your question is ,yes most definately .Especially with that school of thought in the Foreign department.
in our case the equation is the following: "apeacement"=war.
I wont enter the other subjects because we disagree 150% and indeed as Femto says it would ruin the thread

TheEvian100
09-14-2009, 12:30 PM
Lets go back to the pics...
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7548/115wn.jpg

dsamba
09-14-2009, 03:10 PM
From our channel : http://www.youtube.com/jhon11jhon

The channel of Hellenic Army Aviation (http://armyaviation.wordpress.com)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqc8G-UHjos&feature=channel_page

iloxos
09-14-2009, 03:17 PM
Aegean... simply Hellas.

GREEK71AIRBORNE
09-16-2009, 05:00 AM
Credit: http://www.ellinikos-stratos.com
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2730/ed31mee20080119120351so.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9402/edamfivioi2008101211521.jpg
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http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/353/edamfivioi2008121419070.jpg
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http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3461/eddyk.jpg
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http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1121/edgreekantiterroro111zp.jpg
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http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8323/edzmak007.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9316/edzmak20080119115353bmk.jpg

Pezy
09-16-2009, 12:49 PM
Damage repairs on a CL-415 after a heavy sea landing during fires in NE Attica.

Rafina, August 26, 2009


Photos: Luft+Stahl - Photographer: Hristos Katsaounis

http://www.luft-stahl.com/#/portfolio/?language=en&category=air&gallery_id=11&fid=4&image=25

http://www.luft-stahl.com/#/portfolio/?language=en&category=air&gallery_id=11&fid=4&image=26

GREEK71AIRBORNE
09-17-2009, 09:34 AM
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/4920/aegeanhawkpic17hires.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/138/pn20081117072356ddd.jpg
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9314/pn20081118084316a374s11.jpg
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7682/pn20081118085017aug07.jpg
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8710/pn20081118085054april07.jpg

GREEK71AIRBORNE
09-17-2009, 04:57 PM
From Enkripto
http://www.enkripto.com/2009/09/blog-post_1933.html

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/8812/enkriptovrahonisida.jpg

GREEK71AIRBORNE
09-21-2009, 05:45 AM
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7337/eddykf50.jpg
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2835/eddykf55.jpg
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7451/edeta20081215070748para.jpg
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4465/edetaeleyueras.jpg
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5443/edparas20081214160320ds.jpg
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/9374/edpyrgosf310.jpg
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6749/edlok20080821105928alpi.jpg
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1963/edlok20090210021256p101.jpg

Nutuk
09-21-2009, 07:21 AM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=81289&d=1252955925

You have these oldies on the islands?

kinmid
09-21-2009, 07:28 AM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=81289&d=1252955925

You have these oldies on the islands?

Have been replaced by VBL in all units for some years now.
I served in one as an APAO (crew leader) a decade+ ago, but nowadays I am serving in reserves on a VBL.

iloxos
09-21-2009, 07:38 AM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=81289&d=1252955925

You have these oldies on the islands?

in the reserves long time now.

its a good target for a maverick like M48A5T1 ;)


PS Hi Nutuk!!!

Nickchios
09-21-2009, 08:04 AM
Some more photos from old vehicles....

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5849/p5280011a.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/45/p5280012.jpg

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5696/p5280013.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1724/p5280017.jpg

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/9895/p5280010.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4580/p5280014.jpg

tornadoss
09-21-2009, 08:10 AM
Some more photos from old vehicles....

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5849/p5280011a.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/45/p5280012.jpg

Graveyard of m-8????

iloxos
09-21-2009, 08:11 AM
marmon harigton + M8s ????

Nickchios
09-21-2009, 08:33 AM
Graveyard of m-8????

It is not a graveyard exactly.

We are transporting them one by one any time we need a target.

iloxos
09-21-2009, 08:50 AM
i hope you left some behind for museums...
my dad was one of the first people in M24s and i can't find a speciment anywhere... do you know of any one left intact????

tornadoss
09-21-2009, 10:03 AM
It is not a graveyard exactly.

We are transporting them one by one any time we need a target.

Ohh i see, thanks...

Nickchios
09-21-2009, 11:24 AM
i hope you left some behind for museums...
my dad was one of the first people in M24s and i can't find a speciment anywhere... do you know of any one left intact????

We have some in our military camps as static model. :)

What do you mean with "speciment"?



Ohh i see, thanks...

You are welcome.

chris450
09-21-2009, 02:44 PM
i hope we see some of them restored properly in a museum

Great pics!

@iloxos

you'll find M-24 in museums both in Athens and Avlona

iloxos
09-21-2009, 03:30 PM
thanks guys!!! i know about the tank park in Katehaki but there are only M47s i think... i ll pass over to check!!!

as for the M24s. My father went there when they arrived in ASDEN. They were leftovers from WW2 italian army. The cavalry command found them proper for coastal defense so all the "good" guys from Evros units went there- my dads M48 had crashed a house (the driver fell asleep) almost killing the poor family inside and got 6 months "prison" penalty and a nice set of golden teeth!!!!
My dad told me two things from that time: there was not one f*** tree anywhere in the island and inside one tank they found bones from some poor soldier killed 30 years before!!! I think he stayed there for almost 6 months before returning to Litohoro.

D-Mitch
09-21-2009, 04:35 PM
Some pics of the british helicopter..
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp98/D-Mitch_photos/Image042.jpghttp://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp98/D-Mitch_photos/Image043.jpghttp://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp98/D-Mitch_photos/Image044.jpgFor more info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AugustaWestland_EH101

GREEK71AIRBORNE
09-22-2009, 08:13 AM
Credit: @Crossbow
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7817/hjb01.jpg
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1993/hjb02.jpg
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http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9447/hjb10.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4473/hjb11.jpg

iloxos
09-22-2009, 09:08 AM
Many people claim that they are macedonians.

Some from folklor tradition and some from Titos high schools.




People without future or present always grub another nations past.

Montechristo
09-22-2009, 05:45 PM
Hellenic Afganistan
There is much support from Greece to the Kalash people as well as to Afganistan.A question to you Scythian, weren't the Afgans forced by the Brits to give some land to Pakistan once?

GREEK71AIRBORNE
09-25-2009, 05:04 AM
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9223/sclp1002066.jpg
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5499/sclpmircascalp1408928.jpg
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2732/sclppicture349.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2886/sclptanagra200803.jpg
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http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8803/sclp12qev3.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9899/sclpimg4688.jpg

Amateur
09-25-2009, 05:26 AM
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9899/sclpimg4688.jpg
Now that's a real beauty... I wonder about the targets p-)

iloxos
09-25-2009, 05:33 AM
targets???

Galatasaray soccer field when at the night they ll play with Panathinaikos.

One misille and both countries will earn a better future!!!!

hahahahahahahahaha :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Dark Avenger
09-25-2009, 06:12 AM
Iloxos, are you a "gavros"???? rofl

iloxos
09-25-2009, 07:31 AM
Yes but most of all i am a humanitarian ;)

JimHPTN
09-25-2009, 08:49 AM
Just judging by the photos, am I correct in assuming that most Hellenic rapid reaction forces/elite troops use the M16/M4 rifles, while the G3 is the main infantry weapon, with the old M1 as a ceremonial weapon? BTW thanks to all for such an informative thread, especially the armor pictures.

iloxos
09-25-2009, 08:52 AM
Yep. In case you see FN FAL they re from late 90s

Amateur
09-26-2009, 03:03 AM
Just judging by the photos, am I correct in assuming that most Hellenic rapid reaction forces/elite troops use the M16/M4 rifles, while the G3 is the main infantry weapon, with the old M1 as a ceremonial weapon? BTW thanks to all for such an informative thread, especially the armor pictures.
Yes, just one more clarification: the M1 is used as a ceremonial weapon, only by the Presidential Guard (evzones). All other units use their regular rifles (M16 or G3) when performing ceremonial duties.

GREEK71AIRBORNE
09-28-2009, 04:41 PM
Hellenic Navy remembering the sinking of Destroyer "Queen Olga" and Submarine "Katsonis"
during WWII


http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5805/katswneia200914.jpg
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4163/vasilissaolga13.jpg

GREEK71AIRBORNE
09-29-2009, 04:28 PM
Credit: Alepou340MB
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3057/nf161586056.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/6232/nf161586011.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1194/nf161586055.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4396/nf161586057.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6070/nf161586063.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5103/nmirage20001585404.jpg
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2604/nmirage2000234601253346.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6334/nmirage200051586027.jpg

Savio
09-30-2009, 07:14 AM
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3443/2009boldavenger02.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/469/2009boldavenger01.jpg


http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4537/2009boldavenger03.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4739/2009boldavenger04.jpg

TheEvian100
09-30-2009, 12:32 PM
A nice update on HAF and HAA :)


http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6329/32677560.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1543/47120743.jpg

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5662/80525126.jpg

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/971/88816928.jpg

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1961/69602003.jpg

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7514/49678902.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8240/18046245.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/149/80793249.jpg

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/6660/40026551.jpg

Nickchios
10-02-2009, 03:32 PM
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2280/dscf1011r.jpg

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5139/dscf1010e.jpg

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7408/dscf1008o.jpg

TheEvian100
10-03-2009, 07:38 AM
Hellenic Army... Half Life :)

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5904/gasmaskgreek.jpg

flanker7
10-03-2009, 07:42 AM
This must be either SMY or SSE

Boina verde
10-03-2009, 07:49 AM
A nice update on HAF and HAA :)


http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7514/49678902.jpg



The old SLUF...miss him.

Nickchios
10-03-2009, 08:33 AM
A HAF Super Puma for a real SAR mission in Aegean sea.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9361/dscf1081.jpg

GREEK71AIRBORNE
10-03-2009, 01:55 PM
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8629/hafoctwp0910anormal.jpg
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7411/hafoctwp0910bnormal.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6108/hafoctwp0910cnormal.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9761/hafoctwp0910dnormal.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7130/hafoctwp0910enormal.jpg

Karaahmetoglu
10-03-2009, 02:06 PM
Which one does the Greek Air force prefer more the F-16 or the Mirage 2000?

Pezy
10-03-2009, 06:03 PM
The American F-16 reappears in HAF calendar...

Savio
10-04-2009, 03:55 AM
4 brand new F-16 Block 52+ Adv at Lajes Field, Azores, Portugal on their way to 116CW. The new aircraft will be operated by 335 Squadron.
photos by Paulo - enkripto
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2170/f16s.jpg

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1891/033oh.jpg

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2813/vapor.jpg

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7137/034oep.jpg



(http://www.enkripto.com)

Diogenis
10-04-2009, 01:39 PM
Afaik 22-24 now.
Rest six should arrive before this year ends.

iloxos
10-05-2009, 04:27 PM
just beautiful....

iloxos
10-06-2009, 12:11 PM
none knows yet. HAF believes more in the total modernization of F-16s and M2000s

Dark Avenger
10-06-2009, 02:25 PM
i read that maybe f-16 bl60 come to greece, a batch of 40-60?
you know something about that? is it ONLY in connection with a potential f-35 deal?
Hopefully not. We need an air superiority optimized fighter, like the Rafale or the Typhoon. We have plenty of F-16s to undertake a fair share of all other missions.

m.i.t
10-06-2009, 02:35 PM
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8803/sclp12qev3.jpg[/IMG]
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9899/sclpimg4688.jpg

How many Scalp EG misilles delivered to HAF ?

Diogenis
10-06-2009, 02:55 PM
How many Scalp EG misilles delivered to HAF ?

90 delivered.

Nickchios
10-06-2009, 03:06 PM
90 delivered.

To be more precise 90+ p-)

Diogenis
10-06-2009, 03:32 PM
Let us just stay on official numbers.
p-)

iloxos
10-06-2009, 04:01 PM
that means that HAF would be the one the strongest AF in this region.....:)


i read that maybe f-16 bl60 come to greece, a batch of 40-60?
you know something about that? is it ONLY in connection with a potential f-35 deal?

HAF is the strongest at the region until 2014. turkey then will accept the first F35.

F16B60 is a 1978 designed plane... We prefer the Typhoon. F35s will arrive after 2020 replacing F15B50s and M2000s


How many Scalp EG misilles delivered to HAF ?


how many C4I in minor asia? hahahahahahaha :p

Diogenis
10-06-2009, 04:08 PM
There is no point to discuss things like "strongest airforce" after 2014 since neither turkish airforce nor HAF made orders for next generation fighters yet.
So..yes.
Right now and untill new orders will be on the agenda HAF is by far the "strongest airforce" in the region.
As well in numbers of modern aircraft and support assets(like AEW+C,High-SAM systems,Integrated Air Defence organization) and more so in pure quality.
woot

iloxos
10-06-2009, 04:25 PM
you forgot the ammo. amraam c5, mica, iris-t etc ;)

TheEvian100
10-07-2009, 08:16 AM
@ Gents, this is a picture thread not a pissing contest thread. Create or find other threads for such discussions.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4876/87228006.jpg

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5227/39743418.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7651/66438458.jpg

Awesome image of a HAF Viper. p-)

GREEK71AIRBORNE
10-07-2009, 06:12 PM
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6200/eldaf0001.jpg
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7770/eldaf0002.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9494/eldaf0003.jpg
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5787/eldaf0004.jpg
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7/eldaf0005.jpg

TheEvian100
10-07-2009, 09:45 PM
sorry i dont want to piss somebody off.:-( im only very interrested for the hellenic army.....

KAI TORA POU HMASTE STO THEMA... TO KALITERO NISH THS ELLADAS EINAI H EVVAI!!!

ENALLOS, MA PISTEWIS ALLITHEIA OTI IME @GENT TOTES GAMISOU MALAKA!
EGO POTE DEN THA MARTIROUSA THN PATRIDA MOU!!!

If for whatever reason somebody posts something you do not understand, you can ask first and then shoot, swear, etc. You need to realise that by typing @ Gents, I meant: "at all gentlemen" or κύριοι in greek.

It's the english forum-language. Also, what does Evboia have to do with anything?

PS. I'll be waiting for an apology.

Savio
10-08-2009, 11:31 AM
The 4 F-16 Block 52+ Adv arrived at 116CW

Photos Giannis Rigopoulos

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/129/f16dgr3ll.jpg

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/5282/f16dgr2l.jpg

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/6167/f16dgr4l.jpg

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1164/f16dgrl.jpg

GREEK71AIRBORNE
10-09-2009, 06:05 AM
"Pirates Patrol" From http://www.enkripto.com
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7513/piratesa5.jpg
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2879/piratesa4.jpg
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/3613/piratesa1.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7986/piratesa3.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3885/piratesa7.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5492/piratesa2.jpg


Full aricle (in Greek) here
http://www.enkripto.com/2009/10/blog-post_1352.html

Ozymandias
10-09-2009, 11:54 AM
Hehehehe

Old school greek SF....great pics, man, thanks.....

Savio
10-09-2009, 12:24 PM
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/8159/44467918.jpg

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/7651/naamloosgescand01111.jpg

TheEvian100
10-11-2009, 10:33 AM
A HAF photo update for today :)

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6915/118481.jpg

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1241/119298.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7994/122604.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3388/147636.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1876/147673.jpg

Savio
10-11-2009, 11:09 AM
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/411/penguin1w.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7166/penguin2q.jpg

TheEvian100
10-11-2009, 09:19 PM
Sexy HAF Mirage 2000-5Mk2 on the taxiway p-)
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5163/387481252238770.jpg

Nickchios
10-12-2009, 03:34 PM
Shooting day for a company from a National Guard Battalion.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5258/pa110036.jpg

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3144/pa110038.jpg

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3738/pa110039.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2996/dscf1092x.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9417/dscf1084i.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7627/dscf1094c.jpg

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5851/cimg0176.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9751/cimg0177qz.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4294/cimg0165.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/794/cimg0171.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3306/cimg0170x.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7213/dscf1103v.jpg

Nickchios
10-12-2009, 04:44 PM
Videos from shooting day.
First in normal speed recording at 30 frames per second.
Second and third are in slow motion.
We used a camera recording at 600 frames per second. No sound at such speed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ze8fRUSjn8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XLoh2h2Kco

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-eEcthFPZw

SpecFor21_GR
10-13-2009, 05:04 PM
Great posts Nickchios.
I specially liked the vids in slow motion. they look great

iloxos
10-13-2009, 05:18 PM
had anybody something heard if greece wants to upgrade the leopard 1 armada???
maybe with the new GIAT t-21 turret?
the turret is similar to LECLERC-turret, but in a lighter version.
t-21 is produced by GIAT and KONSTRUKTA <-- same company producing RM-70....p-)

no changes. germany is offering 140-160 leo2s. leo1s are getting to old.

Nickchios
10-13-2009, 07:01 PM
Great posts Nickchios.
I specially liked the vids in slow motion. they look great

thank you :):)

It was our first video in slow motion and the result for newbies is good.

Marb
10-14-2009, 06:50 AM
no changes. germany is offering 140-160 leo2s. leo1s are getting to old.

See here: http://hellenicdefencenews.blogspot.com/2009/10/germany-offers-surplus-tanks-to-greece.html

GREEK71AIRBORNE
10-15-2009, 03:28 AM
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/8995/pbdsc0030.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/601/pbdsc0061.jpg
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6355/pbdsc0065.jpg

flanker7
10-15-2009, 08:41 AM
Ha- ha! Cyprus NG 2nd Lt in the last pic :-)

iloxos
10-15-2009, 01:41 PM
probably an YEA ;)

TheEvian100
10-15-2009, 08:47 PM
HAF Ground Crew
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/7239/63839850.jpg

GREEK71AIRBORNE
10-16-2009, 04:09 AM
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5048/squalo0901.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7558/squalo0902.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/8356/squalo0903.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1619/squalo0904.jpg

Diogenes
10-16-2009, 08:28 AM
Videos from shooting day.



great videos. Does the shooter wear ordinary earmuffs or electronic?

Nickchios
10-16-2009, 09:20 AM
great videos. Does the shooter wear ordinary earmuffs or electronic?

Thanks....:):)

They are ordinary Peltor earmuffs....

Marb
10-17-2009, 05:49 AM
http://hellenicdefencenews.blogspot.com/2009/10/above-picture-is-from-new-edition-of.html

M.Anthopoulos
10-17-2009, 07:43 PM
Hello everyone!

I have (a) question(s) for you, who have served in last decade army in Greece or just know the current situation of conscription in Greece.

My father is Greek (from Kos) and my mother is from Findland (where I just now live). Ive lived in Greece for six years, when I was child, but our family moved to Finland, because those times (1996/1997) my parents decided that its the best solution to start school in Finland, which my parents found the best solution. Oh, forgot to say, I born in year 1991 (now 18 years old).

I assume that most of you dont know how conscription works in Finland, so Ill explain it to you, so it would be easier to answer my question, what Im asking soon.

So, Finland has universal conscription, which means that every man, who is 18 years is liable to military service. Conscription starts from that year, when man has his 18th birthday and conscription ends when man has his 60th birthday.

So, we had our citys call-up (every city, town, etc have its own call-ups allways in autumn) in september and in Finnish call-ups the conscript has the possibility to influence his brigade, regiment, etc, where he wants to make his military service. I was ordered to serve in Kainuus Brigade (eastern Finland, Kajaani City), where I possibly serve as a Jaeger (normal soldier), because I said to the draft board (three officers from Navy) that I want to serve as jaeger, not as artilleryman or service corps. Still, my aim is to apply to Special Forces (to Finnish Rapid Deployment Force, FRDF).

The minimum service time in Finland is 6 months for those, who just want to be rifleman, grenadier, etc (normal soldier without other special training). 9 months service is for all, who will become drivers and militarypolice. 12months is for all those who want to become Reserve officers (NCOs and normal Reserve officers). Finland takes two times in a year boys to the service (January and july). In my papers, which I gained from call-up) I have to go to the service in year 2010 july the 11th. I can change the time to do the service by showing a medical record, if Im not able to make my service.

So now I come to my real question:

I have been thinking 1-2 years that I would like to serve in Hellenic armed forces, IF I have time to make 2nd military service after I have ended my military service in Finland.

Ive been talking with my parents about the possibility to make my military service in both countries, and my father has said that if you live outside Greece (have lived more than ten years(?)), you dont have to go to Greece for military service. We got in february 2009 papers from Greece, which proove that Ive lived in Finland over 10 years, which means that I dont have serve in Greece.

But could it be possible to go to Greece to make my conscription, even if I have now papers which exempt me from military service in Greece?

And probably the third question:

Ive also heard that the system has changed in Greece in these few years, so the ONLY place to serve the conscription would be Ground forces (not Navy or Air Force). Is this true? So does this mean that Navy sailors officers, etc and Airforce soldier and etc would be ONLY for those, who have considered it as a future proffesional? (I mean that Navy and AF would be just professional army).

The place that Ive intrested to serve would be the Hellenic Marines (πεζοναύτης, 32nd Marines Brigade "Moravas" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenic_Army_32nd_Marines_Brigade) (32η ΤΑΞΠΝ Mοράβας), because my father has served in the Navy, so it would be nice choise to serve in Finland in the ground forces and in Greece as part of the Navy. Ive also intrested about 71st Airmobile Infantry Brigade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenic_Army_71st_Airborne_Brigade) (71η Α/M ΤΑΞ), If its possible to serve there.

In Finland, IF you decide to apply for a special brigade, regiment, etc (Special Forces, like FRDF), you have to make official application and pass through entrance (which includes fysical and psychological parts). Then, if you pass, you start your service in that Specified Special Force group.

I heard that Greece the system is different. IF you want to apply for example, OYK, other Special Forces, you need just to go to the city, town, where the brigade is and just tell there that you want to serve there. Is this true? If it is, does this mean that I could just go to OYK school and when I arrive there, I just tell them that I want to serve my conscription there? Because I understood that you just need to go to the place and no need to make any fysical or psychological test. Just your own will is enough and that you can quit in ANY part of the training your conscription.

IF this works like I assume, does this mean that if I want to serve in Marines, I just get me a ticket to Volos? And how many months would my service be? They say 3months, but Ive heard from many sourcers that the service lenght is "different", even if the law says only 3month for those outside from Greece?

Hopefully, you could answer to all my questions. Its very important to know what to do IF I have a chance to do my service and where.

Greetings from Finland!

Manolis Anthopoulos 18-year old boy. :)

Diogenes
10-18-2009, 09:41 AM
The place that Ive intrested to serve would be the Hellenic Marines (πεζοναύτης, 32nd Marines Brigade "Moravas" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenic_Army_32nd_Marines_Brigade) (32η ΤΑΞΠΝ Mοράβας), because my father has served in the Navy, so it would be nice choise to serve in Finland in the ground forces and in Greece as part of the Navy. Ive also intrested about 71st Airmobile Infantry Brigade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenic_Army_71st_Airborne_Brigade) (71η Α/M ΤΑΞ), If its possible to serve there.

In Finland, IF you decide to apply for a special brigade, regiment, etc (Special Forces, like FRDF), you have to make official application and pass through entrance (which includes fysical and psychological parts). Then, if you pass, you start your service in that Specified Special Force group.

I heard that Greece the system is different. IF you want to apply for example, OYK, other Special Forces, you need just to go to the city, town, where the brigade is and just tell there that you want to serve there. Is this true? If it is, does this mean that I could just go to OYK school and when I arrive there, I just tell them that I want to serve my conscription there? Because I understood that you just need to go to the place and no need to make any fysical or psychological test. Just your own will is enough and that you can quit in ANY part of the training your conscription.

IF this works like I assume, does this mean that if I want to serve in Marines, I just get me a ticket to Volos? And how many months would my service be? They say 3months, but Ive heard from many sourcers that the service lenght is "different", even if the law says only 3month for those outside from Greece?

Hopefully, you could answer to all my questions. Its very important to know what to do IF I have a chance to do my service and where.

Greetings from Finland!

Manolis Anthopoulos 18-year old boy. :)


hello patriotaki and congratulations about your wish to come here to serve.


others will answer more precise than me( i served til 2001) but i am sure you absolutely can serve in the Hellenic armed forced despite your service in Finland. I had a friend who was a Greek from Australia and he came and served although he could avoid it.

I think you will serve three months but you can apply to join the Special forces to serve 9 months there as is mandatory.

OYK does not take conscripts anymore sorry. Maby in the future they will return to the old system.

Stay patient and the other members will answer all your questions. I just wanted to greet you and say a few things as a start.

GREEK71AIRBORNE
10-18-2009, 10:59 AM
So now I come to my real question:



Ive been talking with my parents about the possibility to make my military service in both countries, and my father has said that if you live outside Greece (have lived more than ten years(?)), you dont have to go to Greece for military service. We got in february 2009 papers from Greece, which proove that Ive lived in Finland over 10 years, which means that I dont have serve in Greece.

But could it be possible to go to Greece to make my conscription, even if I have now papers which exempt me from military service in Greece?

Your father is right. You don't have to serve in Hellenic Armed Forces, but you can serve if you want. In any case you have nothing to lose by asking those questions in Hellenic Army General Staff
http://www.army.gr/en/contact.php




And probably the third question:

Ive also heard that the system has changed in Greece in these few years, so the ONLY place to serve the conscription would be Ground forces (not Navy or Air Force). Is this true? So does this mean that Navy sailors officers, etc and Airforce soldier and etc would be ONLY for those, who have considered it as a future proffesional? (I mean that Navy and AF would be just professional army).

The place that Ive intrested to serve would be the Hellenic Marines (πεζοναύτης, 32nd Marines Brigade "Moravas" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenic_Army_32nd_Marines_Brigade) (32η ΤΑΞΠΝ Mοράβας), because my father has served in the Navy, so it would be nice choise to serve in Finland in the ground forces and in Greece as part of the Navy. Ive also intrested about 71st Airmobile Infantry Brigade (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenic_Army_71st_Airborne_Brigade) (71η Α/M ΤΑΞ), If its possible to serve there.


Yes Only Army takes conscripts. Navy and Airforce has only proffesional soldiers.
The Hellenic Marines are part of Hellenic Army and they don't belong to the Navy. Ofcourse they use Hellenic Navy ships and Zubr's but they belong to the Army.



In Finland, IF you decide to apply for a special brigade, regiment, etc (Special Forces, like FRDF), you have to make official application and pass through entrance (which includes fysical and psychological parts). Then, if you pass, you start your service in that Specified Special Force group.

I heard that Greece the system is different. IF you want to apply for example, OYK, other Special Forces, you need just to go to the city, town, where the brigade is and just tell there that you want to serve there. Is this true? If it is, does this mean that I could just go to OYK school and when I arrive there, I just tell them that I want to serve my conscription there? Because I understood that you just need to go to the place and no need to make any fysical or psychological test. Just your own will is enough and that you can quit in ANY part of the training your conscription.

IF this works like I assume, does this mean that if I want to serve in Marines, I just get me a ticket to Volos?




No that is not correct. If someone wants to serve in the Special Forces he must apply for it and then he must pass the fysical and the psychological exams just like in Finland



And how many months would my service be? They say 3months, but Ive heard from many sourcers that the service lenght is "different", even if the law says only 3month for those outside from Greece?

Hopefully, you could answer to all my questions. Its very important to know what to do IF I have a chance to do my service and where.

Greetings from Finland!

Manolis Anthopoulos 18-year old boy. :)

Its very nice that you want to come here and serve your duty as a soldier even if its for 3 months or more. I am sure you will find out all your asnwers if you contact the Hellenic Army General Staff
http://www.army.gr/en/contact.php

BlackhawkCY
10-18-2009, 11:06 AM
In both the marines and the SF you will need to pass a physical test and be of category I1 (giota 1) which means clear eyesight no scholiosis etc ie be of full health.

If you pass the physical and are awarded I1 you may apply for Marines or SF.
They will hold their own assesment and selection course through a series of athletic tests ie push ups, have you run a mile.....
If accepted you will be called upon to accept their offer or decline. (note if you are of less service time you will have to decline that priviledge and serve the full 9 months).

Once you are done with basic training you will then be moved to the SF camp where they will teach you tactics etc and then further training.

You may quit at any time during the SF training and shall be relocated to an infantry unit. (Peziko)

M.Anthopoulos
10-18-2009, 01:40 PM
Hello again!

Thanks to everyone for quick answers :)

BlackhawkCY mentioned something about the physical category in Greece? Which are the categories and how are they called? In Finland we have these kind of classes:

A - Perfect for doing military service, no exeptions in service
B - Able to do military service with few exeptions
C - Exempt from militaryservice (no need to do any service in peace time)
E - Military service delayed to other time (for example, you have a broken leg and need to heal it, so you wait 6 months and then go to army)

I was in a medical research before call-ups and the doctor wrote to my medical certificate (for army) that I belong to class A, so Im able to serve in FDF :)



No that is not correct. If someone wants to serve in the Special Forces he must apply for it and then he must pass the fysical and the psychological exams just like in FinlandOk, nice to know this. I just thought maybe the system has been same at this part as my father told me (well, he served in the Navy three year, when the Junta existed) he had just went to OYK training and stayed there one month when he made his decision that he wants to serve as normal navyman. So he explained that in those times people who wanted to join SF, needed just to go to the training place and do the service, IF they were able to do it (I mean that your physics and mental health were ok, and you didnt get any problems to serve till the end, so there were no tests before service).


If you pass the physical and are awarded I1 you may apply for Marines or SF.
They will hold their own assesment and selection course through a series of athletic tests ie push ups, have you run a mile.....
If accepted you will be called upon to accept their offer or decline. (note if you are of less service time you will have to decline that priviledge and serve the full 9 months).Well, nice to hear that I have the possibility to do my service in Marines :D Because Ive always liked everything which has something to do with Hellenic Marines. If any Finn would ask me something what I would miss from Greece, it would be the sea and thats why Marines would be very good choice from me.

About those test if you want to apply for Marines, how are they? I mean is there some kind of scoring, how much you can do push-ups, run a mile etc? In Finland the scoring is madelike 3 points is the max. and minimun 1 point. (For example if you do up to 35 push-ups, you get the max points from that part of the test.)

I dont want to overestimate my condition but nowadays I can run in the Coopers test (you know, where you run as much you can for 12 minutes)2800 meters, which rated as good in FDF, I have gone to the gym for three years (but in this year I have gone almost every week two times) and I have received very much power to my muscles to make things hard and I can swim very well (in Finland 200 meters is sign for a good swiming skills if youre applying for any SF group). So would my condition be enough to pass the tests? Oh, and do I have to make any mental test, when Im applying for any SF in Greece?

And about the service lenght:

Well 9 months in the Marine Corps wouldnt not be so much for me, because Ive always been very patriotic of my two countries. In Finland most of the people think that undertake the military service is the way to show own patriotism and will to defend the native homeland.

Ive always been proud of my Greek roots and my life is mostly influenced from the Greek culture (my ways to be nice to other people and Im very extrovert). In my Call-ups I made it very clear to the Navy officers that in my military service I would like become a Reserve Officer or atleast NCO in reserve. So like I explained, If you pass and be succesful in your service and you become chosen to do your service as NCO or Reserve officer, your service lenght is 12 months.

Those (possible) 9 months (or even the 3 months) in Greece would be very nice time for my life, to live with other Greeks and same time to learn my Greek better. :)

Also my second reason, why I would like to serve in Hellenic Armed Forces:

Ive been thinking my future job (Im now in High Scool, last year) and Ive decided to become a FDF officer. And it would be very positive for my career to have experience in other army too. Because Ive been thinking that If I succeed to pass the Finnish Military Academy and start to study as an Officer in the army, I would apply for abroad job (like in Afganistan, Chad, I mean Peacekeeping and other operations), where I could be very good officer, because my knowledge of many languages (Finnish, Greek, Swedish, English, German and French) and I would be maybe a good contact between Finnish and Greek army forces working together in international missions. :)

Thanks to everyone for answers!

Manolis Anthopoulos - Finnish 18 years old boy

Σ 'αγαπώ Ελλάδα! Αγαπώ την πατρίδα μου!

P.S. I wrote in English because I dont know very well (yet) to write in Greek, but I can read Greek and speak it.

D-Mitch
10-18-2009, 01:57 PM
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp98/D-Mitch_photos/1486676.jpg

Does anyone know if all navy helicopters have these colours or not?

Also which are the external deferences between the upgraded C-130 and these who doesn't upgraded yet?The upgrades are only in cockpit?
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp98/D-Mitch_photos/1404538.jpg

D-Mitch
10-18-2009, 02:20 PM
When I said above for navy helicopters I mean our navy helicopters.

Also another question: if the colour that our figters F-16 have,the 'top gun' as it said,is succesful why our F-16 seems always too dirty and like they have painted many years ago?The colour is fading. For example look this new bk52 advanced and see the older(for few years) F-16 bk52..I know that we are not like Netherlands and other countries in Europe who doesn't have problems with their neigbours but at least we should have our figters in better condition and with their property camouflage.
F16 block52+advanced
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp98/D-Mitch_photos/1592641.jpgF16 block 30
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp98/D-Mitch_photos/DSC00820.jpgF16 block 52
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp98/D-Mitch_photos/DSC01818.jpg

Marb
10-20-2009, 12:17 PM
http://hellenicdefencenews.blogspot.com/2009/10/mutually-acceptable-solution-on.html

Sorry for the OT but why did the sub threads get locked?

GREEK71AIRBORNE
10-20-2009, 05:28 PM
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7346/edsniper116.jpg
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4283/edsniper216.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8182/edsniper20081128045243s.jpg
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7641/edsniper20081214162315a.jpg
and a hellenic sniper rifle "Kefefs" 7,62mm
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/351/edsniperkefefsm76247.jpg

Credit: @Kornet-E

Ozymandias
10-21-2009, 12:29 PM
Has the "Kefefs" been fielded in the Hellenic Armed Forces?

Would you consider it equal to, say, M24 or M40?

flanker7
10-21-2009, 12:30 PM
No and.... no :-)

Ozymandias
10-21-2009, 12:48 PM
So, what will it be its use if/when its fielded?

I see that the Hellenic Armed Forces already use quality rifles from abroad. If it can'tcompete with them, is it supposed to be more of a marksman weapon rather than a long range sniper rifle?

BlackhawkCY
10-21-2009, 06:34 PM
BlackhawkCY mentioned something about the physical category in Greece? Which are the categories and how are they called? In Finland we have these kind of classes:

A - Perfect for doing military service, no exeptions in service
B - Able to do military service with few exeptions
C - Exempt from militaryservice (no need to do any service in peace time)
E - Military service delayed to other time (for example, you have a broken leg and need to heal it, so you wait 6 months and then go to army)

I was in a medical research before call-ups and the doctor wrote to my medical certificate (for army) that I belong to class A, so Im able to serve in FDF :-)Categories are of giota (greek letter I) 1 up to 5
I1 = Completely fit both psychologically and physically
I2 = Minor health problems such as eyesight or inability to distinguish certain colours
I3 = Greater health problems asthma etc... (might be issued a riffle)
I4 = Health problems (are not issued a rifle)
I5 = Unable / Unfit to serve


About those test if you want to apply for Marines, how are they? I mean is there some kind of scoring, how much you can do push-ups, run a mile etc? In Finland the scoring is madelike 3 points is the max. and minimun 1 point. (For example if you do up to 35 push-ups, you get the max points from that part of the test.)For the physical test you should wait for someone else to answer your question since i only know how the test works for the cyprus SF units.

BlackhawkCY
10-21-2009, 06:40 PM
The KEFEFS is a rugged, heavy-barrelled, highly accurate and exceptionally reliable boltaction sniping rifle firing the 7.62 mm X 51 NATO ammunition.
It is available in two versions which differ in the length, weight and external shape of the barrel only. The KEFEFS-M version coated with highstrength, heat-resistant camouflage paints (forest and desert) is intented for use by military snipers while the KEFEFS-P version with a slightly longer, heavier, externally fluted barrel and an oil-polished stock is designed to meet the need for a police sniper weapon.
Either version has a cold-hammered, highprecision, free-floating, exposed barrel made of special high-grade steel.
The receiver, bolt and all metal components are also made of special steel.
The ergonomically and elegantly designed stock, which is made of high-quality walnut with cross-knurling, is of the Monte Carlo model.
The simple and robust bolt-action mechanism with a 50 opening angle enables the bolt to be flexible and easy to open.
The third lug of the three locking lugs located at the front of the bolt acts as a rail which gives the bolt a friction-free and smooth movement. The firing mechanism incorporates an extremely quiet, thumb-operated safety the stiffness of which is adjustable.
Trigger pull and travel can also be adjusted. A wide range of telescopic sights and sight mounts is available to suit the user's requirements, since it is the sighting system which plays an important role in sniping.
Scopes are adjustable for windage and elevation. Night vision devices are also available.
The weapon is supplied with a bipod (having a quick release mechanism), a carrying sling and a complete field-service kit.

TECHNICAL DATA

Method of operation.................Manual (50ο bolt-opening angle)
Method of 10cking....................Forward-locking, three-lug bolt
Type of fire.............................Single shot
Feed.......................................5-round, staggered-row, integral box magazine
Barrel............Calibre...............7.62 mm (7.62 mm X 51 NATO ammunition)
.....................Rifling.................4 grooves RH
Sight.......................................Wide range of telescopic sights
..............................................(for 100 to 600 or 800 m)
..............................................Adjustable for windage and elevation
Muzzle velocity.........................840 m/s
Muzzle energy..........................3300 J
Effective rage...........................800 m

Weights
...........Weapon, M/P without scope & bipod........3.95/4.4 kg
...........Bipod, M/P............................................0.29/0.32 kg

Lengths
...........Weapon, M/P........................................1135/1200 mm
...........Barrel, M/P...........................................610/675 mm

It is designed by EBO (Elliniki Biomixania Oplwn - Hellenic Weapon Industries)

I am not completely sure but the reason it is not used might be because foreign made weaponry seems to be much more accurate.

TheEvian100
10-21-2009, 09:00 PM
A nice image of an "Alepou" viper p-)

http://i33.*******.com/qq3i4k.jpg

TheEvian100
10-22-2009, 10:16 AM
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6641/213001255464680.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/737/792241255464839.jpg

credit: Alepou 340MB

TheEvian100
10-22-2009, 11:07 AM
Degree award ceremony for the 170th UDT School:

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7264/65282416.jpg

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TheEvian100
10-22-2009, 11:40 AM
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4957/95062135.jpg

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http://favicon.daylife.com/imageserve/0a9L9fsaU55wK/favicon.png ***** Images (http://*****images.com/) 1 week ago Greece's presidental 'Evzoni'guards stand by the Parthenon temple on October 12, 2009, during the ceremony at the Acropolis hill in Athens marking the anniversary of the liberation of Athens from the Nazi occupation in 1944.

GREEK71AIRBORNE
10-22-2009, 01:34 PM
This is not actually the Rehearsal parade, but the vechicles moving to get positions...
Enjoy the photos
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Manos29
10-22-2009, 08:18 PM
It is designed by EBO (Elliniki Biomixania Oplwn - Hellenic Weapon Industries)

I am not completely sure but the reason it is not used might be because foreign made weaponry seems to be much more accurate.

I think it had to do with how much commissions certain "people" were receiving

GREEK71AIRBORNE
10-23-2009, 06:59 AM
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AK-Lover
10-23-2009, 04:20 PM
Speaking of sniper rifles, does the Greek Army field any standard issue .50 rifles currently? Is their any domestically produced .50 rifle?

1911-a1
10-23-2009, 04:25 PM
Awesome pics. I love the camo:D

Leonidas43
10-23-2009, 05:31 PM
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/images/stories/REF7L.JPG (http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/images/stories/REF4L.JPG)http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/images/stories/REF1L.JPGhttp://www.defencenet.gr/defence/images/stories/REF2L.JPG

Marb
10-24-2009, 06:25 AM
A few more pics here:

http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9344&Itemid=139


Short translation here:
http://hellenicdefencenews.blogspot.com/2009/10/greek-vipers-in-air-to-air-refuelling.html

entergeozax
10-24-2009, 12:23 PM
nice pictures!!!

iloxos
10-25-2009, 03:32 PM
if any body knows if greece wants to replace the non-tracked artillery?
the m114 a1/a2 and m101 a1
maybe a idea were to buy used fh-77 from germanys-stock and put it on hellenic build elbo (steyr) trucks.... for example like the NORA B-52.

M114 and M101 are for museums only after 40 years of service. some are kept in stock for replacements for the northern front.

the non-tracked artillery will be replaced by tracked or wheeled for the heavy brigades sometime in the future like Caesar or used M109GEA3s.

the only SP artillery will be the 2-3 squadrons in the 71st, 1st and 32nd brigades. the Pack56 and the M114 used there will be replaced in the next years with a light 155mm howitzer like ULH.

at this point the lack of money has stopped all buys.

CRTS27
10-25-2009, 05:25 PM
Speaking of sniper rifles, does the Greek Army field any standard issue .50 rifles currently? Is their any domestically produced .50 rifle?

Some Barrett M-82 in use, nothing domestic.:-(

iloxos
10-25-2009, 05:46 PM
@iloxos

dont you think we could do this job on our own?
like i said... i heard that germany got some fh-70 or fh-155-1 in storage...
maybe we could buy them for cheap money and built our own wheeled artillery
with elbo trucks.
the question is...
would this be a cheaper alternative, iloxos? what do you think?

stukas i don't know why it would be cheap... putting a 20 years old cannon in a top of a truck it just makes it faster to move around. slower by much of course to reload and much worst in shooting straigh...
maybe that would be a good solution 20 or 10 years ago but now not only we can find cheap used M109s everywhere but chinese produce a tracked 155mm howitzer for 300,000E...
its just a waste of time and money. money that could turn the force of 400 M109s we have/will have into a modernized artillery force.
the first thing of course is to start accepting the m109s from germany

in my opinion after finishing with that we need extra 48 PzH2000s, 36 or 48 light sp 155mm and a new light MLR system to replace RM-70s.

have you ever considered that the new greek army 2010 has only 60,000 people? who will really use all this artillery???? we are turning into west europeans...

Nickchios
10-26-2009, 10:37 AM
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7388/1148w.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2792/1158w.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7435/1155wp.jpg

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6496/1153w.jpg

flanker7
10-26-2009, 10:43 AM
Are those some of the M-48A2 MOLF, with 90mm cannon for training?

Dark Avenger
10-26-2009, 11:19 AM
Nope, these are old photos, I think. The M48A3 is a plain one, note IR/white light searchlight and lack of thermal sight housing and met data sensor. The other is a M60A1 RISE/Passive.

Nickchios
10-26-2009, 11:49 AM
Sorry guys, i can not help you, as i have not any caption of the photos. I only found them in the web......

But you are the experts....about materials, types, versions......p-)p-)

TheEvian100
10-26-2009, 12:59 PM
F-4E/AUP Phantom II (PI 2000)
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/571/83702280.jpg

F-16D Advanced Block 52+
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2087/81450173.jpg

iloxos
10-26-2009, 01:09 PM
@iloxos

thats very interresting...
did germany start to deliver the m109? i heard that the bundeswehr try to put a half-automatic-loading-system in the a3 gea2.
but they had a lot of problems in field with it. is this true? (im not sure)

germany wants to deliver, but we "don't" at this time...

don't know for the german modernization program. the korean one i know is excellent.

TheEvian100
10-26-2009, 01:55 PM
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/4580/25276224.jpg

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/5741/21557127.jpg

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/1808/56635669.jpg

(26/10/2009) Images from the 182nd anniversary of the Battle of Navarinon.

iloxos
10-26-2009, 04:36 PM
yep. i think also its called K55. you could ask in the ROK section for more

TheEvian100
10-26-2009, 08:23 PM
The day is approaching.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9194/teliko.gif

Nickchios
10-26-2009, 08:46 PM
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iloxos
10-27-2009, 03:22 AM
@enallos excellent gif

Nickchios
10-27-2009, 07:49 AM
Artillery exercise.

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1862/1005d.jpg

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GREEK71AIRBORNE
10-27-2009, 08:57 AM
Great photos @NickChios !
Some Apaches pictures...
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/898/ap01.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1972/ap02p.jpg
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2650/ap03n.jpg
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TheEvian100
10-27-2009, 09:16 AM
From the Combat Aircraft magazine: "Last of the Corsairs" :)
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credit: Alepou 340MB

Nickchios
10-27-2009, 09:43 AM
Great photos @NickChios !
Some Apaches pictures...


thank you G.A.:) :)

Let me continue your great Apache pictures.

What happen today ? Apache everywhere ? p-)p-)

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TheEvian100
10-27-2009, 12:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOvYIPMAk-0

A video about the Hellenic Army Aviation School, incl. some female graduates.

BlackhawkCY
10-28-2009, 06:28 AM
Happy 28th of October to all Greeks

2 Backgrounds sent to me by friends:http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=83707&stc=1&d=1256725623


http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=83708&stc=1&d=1256725623

TheEvian100
10-28-2009, 11:47 AM
Happy 28th of October to all Greeks

2 Backgrounds sent to me by friends

Awesome work there! thx :)

Hellenic Navy UDT training: Final Stage of "Devil's Week"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHGPUlZWcaI






Αnd today is a very special Day for all Greeks, it's the Ochi Day! Zήτω το ΟΧΙ!
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5320/alexandrakisaera.jpg

D-Mitch
10-28-2009, 01:05 PM
Xρόνια πολλά Έλληνες!

TheEvian100
10-28-2009, 03:40 PM
A female student of the Army's Officers School (ΣΣΑΣ):
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3461/27049normal.jpg

Some images from today's military parade in Thessaloniki:
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GREEK71AIRBORNE
10-28-2009, 05:31 PM
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http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7922/23m901.jpg
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9317/24leo2.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/205/25leo2.jpg
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7018/26leo2.jpg
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7642/27leo2.jpg
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3874/28leo2.jpg
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8850/29leo2.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1331/30leo1.jpg
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/5466/31leo1.jpg

to be continued...

GREEK71AIRBORNE
10-28-2009, 05:36 PM
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9461/32bergerpanzer.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1996/33m109.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/576/34m109.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9691/35pzh.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7554/36pzh.jpg
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3125/37pzh.jpg
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9277/38mlrs.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2279/39mlrsammo.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9453/40pack.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7870/41tor.jpg
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4261/42tor.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5650/43tor.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5650/43tor.jpg
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/5376/44f16.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5803/45m2000.jpg
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2379/46f4e.jpg
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8020/47a7e.jpg
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7749/48ah64a.jpg
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4913/49ah64a.jpg
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8568/50ah64a.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1517/51ah64a.jpg
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/204/52ah64a.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7483/53ah64a.jpg
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5938/54ch47.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/678/55ch47.jpg
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8467/56ab212.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9025/57eppn.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5818/58s70.jpg

TheEvian100
10-28-2009, 06:24 PM
to be continued...

Nice images indeed! Here's some I found today online:

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6079/parelasi09a.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2976/parelashpapoylias.jpg

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/175/parelashpapoulias.jpg

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/615/pa280002.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8394/pa280033.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8139/pa280037.jpg

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9665/pa280038.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5269/pa280040.jpg

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1246/pa280041.jpg

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9029/pa280043.jpg

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4200/pa280047.jpg

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1268/pa280053.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5366/pa280057.jpg

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9678/pa280070.jpg

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5595/pa280077.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2721/pa280078.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9656/pa280085.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8932/pa280086.jpg

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6457/pa280093.jpg

TheEvian100
10-28-2009, 08:15 PM
Hellenic Army - Ultimate Armor Fest!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2O_J7IZUWc

credit: bizo249

TheEvian100
10-28-2009, 09:55 PM
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3514/c27jspartan01of17.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5065/c27jspartan14of17.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4800/c27jspartan15of17.jpg

TheEvian100
10-29-2009, 03:22 PM
Young students visiting army and navy camps, from ΓΕΕΘΑ webpage:
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6831/71490000.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1103/99836048.jpg

chris450
10-30-2009, 02:48 PM
stukas,this is a photo thread mate..maybe we should open a new thread to discuss these issues

some photos from the 28th October celebrations in Thessaloniki


http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4741/copy20of20wfr6450.jpg http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5238/wfr1035a.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5255/wfr9704.jpg

dragon2w
10-30-2009, 02:49 PM
hey dudes

hellenicdefencenews write that some experts travel to the usa to inspect some M2/M3 BRADLEYS for a potential order....
is it possible to put a EAS 30mm gun on the BRADLEYS?
i think the BUSHMASTER 25mm cannon is not enough armament for an aifv...

BAe already installed the MK44 30/40 in the M2A2 Bradley. If the Greek Army believes that the M242 is ineffective, they can install the MK44 30/40 without risk and with minimum cost. There is no need to install anything else.

entergeozax
10-31-2009, 06:20 AM
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/images/stories/F164L.JPG
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/images/stories/F165L.JPG
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/images/stories/F166L.JPG
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/images/stories/F167L.JPG
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/images/stories/EMB145L.JPG
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/images/stories/F168L.JPG

Boina verde
10-31-2009, 08:25 AM
stukas,this is a photo thread mate..maybe we should open a new thread to discuss these issues

some photos from the 28th October celebrations in Thessaloniki


http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5238/wfr1035a.jpg



Thats amazing, can someone explain to me the meaning of the painting?

chris450
10-31-2009, 10:42 AM
its a painting of Saint Dimitrios ,patron saint of Thessaloniki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Demetrius_of_Thessaloniki

Nickchios
10-31-2009, 11:06 AM
Hellenic Army National Guard guns...

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4586/dscf1281o.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4839/dscf1283b.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1012/dscf1289t.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3632/dscf1299y.jpg

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4637/dscf1300.jpg

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/329/dscf1302.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5054/dscf1285v.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9726/dscf1288yl.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9623/dscf1280ec.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9486/dscf1270w.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/986/dscf1269p.jpg

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9018/dscf1268p.jpg

Greek soldier
10-31-2009, 12:18 PM
nice pics BROTHERS:)
have the HK11 and G3 the possibility to put a telescoping sight on it?
i see some pictures with the rail on the rifle...

Yes, G3 comes with a STANAG claw mount for the Steiner scope

But there's always the intraweb to purchase a real Picatinny/Weaver mount (MFI low mount, or Leapers see-through,) to put an Eotech or an Aimpoint p-)

Nickchios
10-31-2009, 12:28 PM
Yes, G3 comes with a STANAG claw mount for the Steiner scope

But there's always the intraweb to purchase a real Picatinny/Weaver mount (MFI low mount, or Leapers see-through,) to put an Eotech or an Aimpoint p-)

Something like that....? p-)

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1387/dscf1275v.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6196/dscf1272.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5519/dscf1276n.jpg

Greek soldier
10-31-2009, 12:33 PM
Oh yes. :D

Larue Tactical? Where the hell did you find it??

Nickchios
10-31-2009, 12:39 PM
Oh yes. :D

Larue Tactical? Where the hell did you find it??

National Guard.......:)

michailk
10-31-2009, 07:53 PM
ok, i think we should open a "bradley for the hellenic army" thread.
anyone else?
I agree go ahead.:)

entergeozax
11-01-2009, 08:31 AM
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/images/stories/F163L.JPG
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/images/stories/F161L.JPG
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/images/stories/F162L.JPG

flanker7
11-01-2009, 10:37 AM
JDAM! Where did you get them?

EDIT: Defencenet......

Ronguild
11-01-2009, 12:27 PM
Wrong post, sorry.

GREEK71AIRBORNE
11-03-2009, 05:59 AM
Credit:@Rawshooter Modelclub.gr
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/7918/img1955r.jpg
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4760/img1962fq.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/7769/img1980i.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9379/img1990e.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3444/img2001.jpg
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9292/img2011h.jpg

Nickchios
11-03-2009, 08:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTsFCVSYNwc

Douros81
11-04-2009, 03:03 AM
Oh yes. :D

Larue Tactical? Where the hell did you find it??

Any gun shop worth a damn will have one.

I have a Larue Tactical baseball hat:)

chris450
11-04-2009, 05:39 AM
Any gun shop worth a damn will have one.

I have a Larue Tactical baseball hat:)

gun shops (in the strict sense of the term) and related accesories are hard to find in Greece,hence the reaction to the mount..especially Larue products

anyway hats off Nick,great pics and video

"re thirio kai gonipetws!" lol

GREEK71AIRBORNE
11-04-2009, 06:37 AM
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4641/mplesasmikoniosanakoino.jpg
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/4641/mplesasmikoniosanakoino.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4641/mplesasmikoniosanakoino.jpg

Nickchios
11-04-2009, 08:21 AM
gun shops (in the strict sense of the term) and related accesories are hard to find in Greece,hence the reaction to the mount..especially Larue products

anyway hats off Nick,great pics and video

"re thirio kai gonipetws!" lol

Thanks Chris :)

Itan i foni tou Dika....p-)p-)

michailk
11-04-2009, 02:11 PM
I remember two things while shooting with G3.Its distinctive noise and the kicking.I think kicks a lot.

Nickchios
11-04-2009, 04:35 PM
Some pictures from target range...

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6226/cimg0208j.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3668/cimg0200.jpg

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7830/cimg0205.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/6277/cimg0222f.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4779/cimg0217w.jpg

Douros81
11-05-2009, 12:06 AM
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3668/cimg0200.jpg

When I mount an optic on any rifle, I always try to keep the optic as close to the barrel as I can for better accuracy. What type of groups do you get with that?

GREEK71AIRBORNE
11-05-2009, 07:33 AM
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2640/noe0901.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/3915/neo0902.jpg
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/5121/noe0903.jpg
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3021/noe0904.jpg
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9787/noe0905.jpg

Nickchios
11-05-2009, 11:54 PM
When I mount an optic on any rifle, I always try to keep the optic as close to the barrel as I can for better accuracy. What type of groups do you get with that?

I believe it is not obligingly to do that as you have to zeroing anyway in certain distance.

The Larue QD mount i have on G3 is ideal for M4 family guns because of the metal sights height of M4 etc. It works fine in G3 too....

The grouping was fine for the distance i was shooting.

entergeozax
11-06-2009, 06:37 PM
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/images/stories/HAFdisplayL4.jpg
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/images/stories/HAFdisplayL3.jpg

Douros81
11-07-2009, 12:43 AM
I believe it is not obligingly to do that as you have to zeroing anyway in certain distance.

The Larue QD mount i have on G3 is ideal for M4 family guns because of the metal sights height of M4 etc. It works fine in G3 too....

The grouping was fine for the distance i was shooting.


My one buddy has a M1A and he had a hell of time mounting a scope on it. He couldnt get it to group right at all so he just took it off and now uses the iron sites. I'm still having problems getting my FAL to group right at 100 yards. p-)

I'm thinking about putting my Eotech on my M4, keep the carry handle on it and useing a rail like this. Have you shot one like this?
thanks http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31zXo5R2aKL._SS500_.jpg

Nickchios
11-07-2009, 12:57 AM
This rail is for M4 if they have a non detachable carry handle and puts the red dot far away.
If the carry handle is detachable, take it off and put Eotech on the guns rail, add a BUIS and you have a perfect combination....:):)

Douros81
11-07-2009, 01:12 AM
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v347/235/46/71904546/n71904546_31273978_8806.jpg


http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v347/235/46/71904546/n71904546_31273979_9367.jpg



Its a CMMG 14.7 in upper on a DSA Z4M Spartan lower, with an IDF sling.

Thanks for the info

Bill p-)

Dalamar
11-07-2009, 04:04 AM
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=1420&pictureid=17889

A preserved Noratlas transport in front of the aircraft maintenance hangar of the HAF museum. Dekelia Air Base, November 6, 2009.

SOTIRIS
11-07-2009, 03:51 PM
Greek army M-24 Chaffee
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4162/800pxgreekm241956.jpg

Arnie100
11-07-2009, 03:53 PM
SOTIRIS, what year is that photo? Early '50s, somewheres?

SOTIRIS
11-07-2009, 07:27 PM
I think is early 50s because ,the soldiers carry American weapons
Look here
http://images.google.com/hosted/life/l?q=greek+army+tanks&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgreek%2Barmy%2Btanks%26start%3D36%26ndsp%3D18%26um%3D1%26hl%3Del%26sa%3DN&imgurl=a574f78a8b14447b

Karaahmetoglu
11-07-2009, 07:29 PM
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v347/235/46/71904546/n71904546_31273978_8806.jpg


http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v347/235/46/71904546/n71904546_31273979_9367.jpg



Its a CMMG 14.7 in upper on a DSA Z4M Spartan lower, with an IDF sling.

Thanks for the info

Bill p-)

You do know that you can just take of the carrying handle and there is picatinny underneath it?

GREEK71AIRBORNE
11-08-2009, 02:20 PM
Archangels Day today, our Air Force Celebrates!

Photos: @Kinmid
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1555/1108synaxismihailgabrii.jpg
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6259/as332gr4.jpg
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7233/c27jgr1.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4310/c130hgr6.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9692/crotalenggr2.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4629/p3bc27jgr1.jpg

GREEK71AIRBORNE
11-09-2009, 05:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/XG2RkDFy5ss

entergeozax
11-09-2009, 04:22 PM
http://www.haf.gr/media/c130-riat.jpg
http://www.haf.gr/media/TA7_tanker.jpg
http://www.haf.gr/media/A7_refuelling.jpg
http://www.haf.gr/media/TA7.jpg
http://www.haf.gr/media/M2000_04.jpg
http://www.haf.gr/media/patriot_02.jpg
http://www.haf.gr/media/crotale_01.jpg
http://www.haf.gr/media/ARTEMIS-2.jpg
http://www.haf.gr/media/EMB145_06.JPG
http://www.haf.gr/media/EMB145_05.JPG
http://www.haf.gr/media/a-109hirundo.jpg
http://www.haf.gr/media/tanagra2008/var_13.jpg
http://www.haf.gr/media/tanagra2008/var_02.jpg
http://www.haf.gr/media/tanagra2008/tanagra2008_st_13.jpg
http://www.haf.gr/media/tanagra2008/tanagra2008_st_14.jpg
http://www.haf.gr/media/tanagra2008/tanagra2008_st_15.jpg
http://www.haf.gr/media/tanagra2008/tanagra2008_05.jpg
http://www.haf.gr/media/F-4_07.jpg

AK-Lover
11-09-2009, 09:35 PM
Excellent, thanks for the pics brother!

GREEK71AIRBORNE
11-11-2009, 06:43 PM
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3720/a0buffel.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7946/a0kornet.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/958/a0leo1a52.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4117/a0leo1a5.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/219/a0leo22.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6320/a0leo23.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4718/a0leo24.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9545/a0leo25.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5372/a0leo2.jpg
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/317/a0m109.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1948/a0pzh20002.jpg
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3545/aomlrs.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/681/aopzh2000.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7010/aotorm1.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8311/aovbl.jpg

planeman
11-11-2009, 09:35 PM
http://www.haf.gr/media/tanagra2008/var_13.jpg
http://www.haf.gr/media/tanagra2008/var_02.jpg


awesome pics especially the air defences, great thread.

re the above two pics, what's the context? Looks like Eurofighter and Tornado?

BlackhawkCY
11-12-2009, 06:27 AM
could someone explain to me what the white cross does? Under the number plates of the PzH 2000?

Dark Avenger
11-12-2009, 06:39 AM
It's a standard night driving aid (for distance keeping) on German made vehicles.

GREEK71AIRBORNE
11-12-2009, 09:46 AM
Credit: @Manotaurus, @Kornet-E
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9485/kentavros0011.jpg

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3410/kentavros0021.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2347/kentavros0051.jpg

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8893/kentavroskentavrosifv26.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2163/kentavrosnaamloosgescan.jpg

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2163/kentavrosnaamloosgescan.jpg

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4296/kentavroskentaurus2.jpg


http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2163/kentavrosnaamloosgescan.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2163/kentavrosnaamloosgescan.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/560/kentavrosnaamloosgescanf.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2163/kentavrosnaamloosgescan.jpg

Dolph BG
11-12-2009, 12:17 PM
Awesome pictures!

SOTIRIS
11-12-2009, 12:38 PM
I think the foto of Kentayros is ,property-copyright of ELBO

Dalamar
11-13-2009, 03:41 AM
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1161/dsc28459642955.jpg

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5679/dsc28469599158.jpg

(by Nikos Papaletsos)

BlackhawkCY
11-13-2009, 04:33 AM
It's a standard night driving aid (for distance keeping) on German made vehicles.

infrared,strobe or more like normal white light?

Dark Avenger
11-13-2009, 05:55 AM
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5679/dsc28469599158.jpg

(by Nikos Papaletsos)
M48A3 MOLF gunnery training tank! Nice photo! :D


infrared,strobe or more like normal white light?
Plain white light to illuminate the white cross and warn drivers of following vehicles when they get too close.

TheEvian100
11-13-2009, 06:54 AM
A photo update from airliners.net on HAF:

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8949/1605260.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3791/1608139.jpg

TheEvian100
11-13-2009, 11:53 AM
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7654/82294033.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3271/68927579.jpg

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1006/57679891.jpg

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5365/24728137.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1417/49389356.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8366/49083125.jpg

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5929/44406800.jpg

BlackhawkCY
11-13-2009, 04:16 PM
Thanks 12345

chris450
11-13-2009, 06:51 PM
some great RM-70 pics here
http://www.enkripto.com/2009/11/2009-rm-70.html

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/7159/28190933.jpg


http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9423/74792387.jpg

GREEK71AIRBORNE
11-14-2009, 08:10 AM
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9683/pb130058.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8035/pb130059w.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/131/pb130060w.jpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4091/pb130061w.jpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9886/pb130062w.jpg
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1486/pb130063w.jpg

Luke D
11-14-2009, 08:33 AM
http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/52069770yCRGTl_ph.jpg

Made in Brazil ! =D

PontianDesert
11-14-2009, 03:59 PM
Could someone update me with the Type 214 submarines that we are suppost to have, I heard their not operational and we won't be using them...is this true, and what's going to happen now?

Nickchios
11-14-2009, 04:38 PM
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9391/pb130074.jpg

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8443/pb130075.jpg

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9303/pb130076.jpg

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/508/pb130078.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/508/pb130077.jpg

GREEK71AIRBORNE
11-14-2009, 04:54 PM
We will get the 3 Submarines that was made in Greece,(S-121 "Matrozos" S-122 "Pipinos" and S-123 "Katsonis" but we will not get "Papanikolis"

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/876/pipinoskatsonis.jpg
Pipinos & Katsonis

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3116/s121matrozos.jpg
Matrozos

Nickchios
11-14-2009, 05:59 PM
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9576/pb130066.jpg

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9376/cimg0371i.jpg

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/571/cimg0372w.jpg

Stavroforos
11-14-2009, 10:02 PM
We will get the 3 Submarines that was made in Greece,(S-121 "Matrozos" S-122 "Pipinos" and S-123 "Katsonis" but we will not get "Papanikolis"


Pipinos & Katsonis


Matrozos
Why is that?

PontianDesert
11-15-2009, 04:46 AM
Interesting....can you please explain to me why papanikolis was a failure? I thought the other 3 submarines should of been built by now??

PontianDesert
11-15-2009, 04:48 AM
We will get the 3 Submarines that was made in Greece,(S-121 "Matrozos" S-122 "Pipinos" and S-123 "Katsonis" but we will not get "Papanikolis"

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/876/pipinoskatsonis.jpg
Pipinos & Katsonis

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3116/s121matrozos.jpg
Matrozos


Interesting....can you please explain to me why papanikolis was a failure? I thought the other 3 submarines should of been built by now??

PontianDesert
11-15-2009, 04:54 AM
Well I just hope the 3 other submarines work well....the motherland really needs these

Manos29
11-15-2009, 08:25 AM
As far as I heard the other 3 submarines are built already and had the green light for operational tests.
As for Papanikolis, there are 2 versions of the story, 1) we need to save some money so not taking delivery of Papanikolis will save 350million Euros,
2) There are so many faults it can't be corrected (who is going to buy that though)

I think the truth is a bit of both,

Diogenis
11-15-2009, 10:35 AM
The problem with the first submarine(which is the prototype of the U214 class) is that it was used for heavy sea trials and testing since 2005.
It is already 5 years old which represents 15-20% of its service time.
This is the reason hellenic navy does not want to recieve it.
The new contract will include an option for one more U214 to be build in greece.

Nickchios
11-15-2009, 05:03 PM
Guys these is a photo thread.....we use to keep the discussion in minimum possible.
So, please open a new thread about anything you are interesting...:)

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1373/pb130067.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8846/pb130068.jpg

Icarus_222
11-15-2009, 05:41 PM
http://www.enkripto.com/2009/11/3.html

More on the Kentauros.

GREEK71AIRBORNE
11-16-2009, 04:29 AM
Credit:@Alepou340MB
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5141/16081395ecde5.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7449/1609957611c69.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4735/1609956624b25.jpg
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/7633/1609955.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6615/160995464af54.jpg

stelios1984
11-16-2009, 04:48 AM
More on ARIS IV anti tank weapon system

http://www.enkripto.com/2009/11/m-1.html

Nickchios
11-16-2009, 05:31 AM
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/726/pb130069.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7653/pb130070.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4296/pb130071.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3043/pb130072.jpg

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/2193/dscf2241f.jpg

Nickchios
11-16-2009, 06:07 PM
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9612/pb130079.jpg

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4773/dscf2275ne.jpg

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/939/dscf2417.jpg

Manos29
11-17-2009, 08:07 AM
is the last pic, blanks?

Nickchios
11-17-2009, 09:02 AM
is the last pic, blanks?

Yes....:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUn5ky8SOWM

chris450
11-17-2009, 06:49 PM
Aegean Ghosts : Amphibious Raiders somewhere in the archipelago
http://www.enkripto.com/2009/11/blog-post_18.html

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7662/43011223.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IHr-jLQd3rI/SwMLAtg-SEI/AAAAAAAACoo/FZX9u9hpGNM/s1600/4.jpg

Savio
11-18-2009, 04:13 AM
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2199/23043961.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2733/22766312.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5480/32015430.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6160/51775677.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/338/82834691.jpg

Nickchios
11-18-2009, 04:48 AM
Savio.., sorry my friend they are repost..:)

Look at 311 page.

Savio
11-18-2009, 05:12 AM
Savio.., sorry my friend they are repost..:)

Look at 311 page.

You are right my mistake!

Although the UNDERWATER DEMOLITION COMMAND deserves the "publicity" :-)

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8521/dsc8009k.jpg

stelios1984
11-18-2009, 08:51 AM
did ARIS IV got in production?
Not to my knowledge, most likely only a few units were produced and production ended long ago..

TheEvian100
11-18-2009, 09:17 AM
An update on HAF from airliners.net:
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2835/1609956.jpg

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/1402/1610330.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5530/1610876.jpg

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/580/1610877.jpg

Homer
11-18-2009, 09:22 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IHr-jLQd3rI/SwMTeuTO8mI/AAAAAAAACow/s4R4ubZsk-0/s1600/22.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5Y4nWDsZYro/SwLhax3IM1I/AAAAAAAAGyc/N-HNbNql_cc/s1600/9726_1162368063934_1369809824_30566527_5202707_n.jpg

Apologies if these are reposts.

TheEvian100
11-18-2009, 10:58 AM
From the visit of the USN Admiral Gary Roughhead:
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5933/dsc5781.jpg

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/433/dsc5869o.jpg

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8692/dsc5880.jpg

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http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6676/dsc8326.jpg

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9366/dsc8377.jpg

TheEvian100
11-18-2009, 11:01 AM
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9748/76955207.jpg

***** Images 2 months ago Greek navy soldiers march during a military parade in Tripoli on September 1, 2009 to mark the 40th anniversary since Kadhafi seized power in the north African desert state. The multi-million-euro anniversary celebrations of the bloodless coup that brought Kadhafi to power on September 1, 1969, are attended by African, Arab and Latin American leaders but largely ignored by the West.

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2476/89278138.jpg

******* Pictures 4 weeks ago Kenyans watch as the Greek navy frigate FFG Adrias prepares to sail out of Mombasa October 20, 2009. The ship is one of the military vessels under the European Union keeping watch on pirates. Somali pirate gangs have caused havoc in the waterways linking Europe with Asia this year and have made millions of dollars in ransom payments.http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7753/63164586.jpg

******* Pictures 4 weeks ago The Greek navy frigate FFG Adrias leaves the port of Mombasa October 20, 2009. The ship is one of the military vessels from the European Union patrolling against pirate activity. Somali pirate gangs have caused havoc in the waterways linking Europe with Asia this year and have made millions of dollars in ransom payments.http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/295/55895165.jpg

******* Pictures 4 weeks ago A tug boat moves next to the Greek navy frigate FFG Adrias in the Indian Ocean after leaving Mombasa October 20, 2009. The ship is one of the military vessels from the European Union patrolling against pirate activity. Somali pirate gangs have caused havoc in the waterways linking Europe with Asia this year and have made millions of dollars in ransom payments.

entergeozax
11-18-2009, 02:19 PM
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/images/stories/MM40L1.jpg
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/images/stories/MM40L2.jpg
http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/images/stories/MM40L3.jpg

D-Mitch
11-18-2009, 04:57 PM
The launchers looks like these of combattante's class fast attack crafts..I wonder if the launchers of combattante II class ,who have been retired years ago, can used like this..

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp98/D-Mitch_photos/20080702-Faliron-P73-Pezopoulos.jpg

GREEK71AIRBORNE
11-18-2009, 05:09 PM
Its from live fire exercise in Crete. The Exocet missile hit the target (Minesweeper "Aigli") 31 klm away!

Hellenic Navy Underwater Demolition Command, members, from Frigate "Adrias" participating in opperation "Atalanta" arrests pirates

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8551/adrias01.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2586/adrias02.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6401/adrias03.jpg

Nickchios
11-18-2009, 07:27 PM
Armored Corps

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4140/pb130082.jpg

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/1631/pb130081.jpg

Nickchios
11-19-2009, 03:26 PM
great pics! nice camoflage of the m-48!!! if you had some more post them please!!!!
Thanks...:)
For now i found another video from another angle, of Hellenic SF firing blank.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bk8oqzBSp0

kinmid
11-19-2009, 03:42 PM
@entergeozax

this mm-40 exocet looks different to them from cyprus....
are this in greece mainland based?

Those are MM38 missiles, probably from S148 class missile boats.
The HN also operates the MM40 missiles land-launched version.
Can't really say if the specific vehicle is a new acquisition for the purpose of carrying the MM38 canisters, or one of those used with MM40 modified to carry both.

Nickchios
11-19-2009, 06:05 PM
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4959/cimg0271.jpg

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3438/cimg0353.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8104/cimg0354g.jpg

GREEK71AIRBORNE
11-20-2009, 05:06 AM
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7313/ionas20090002.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6595/ionas20090004.jpg

Nickchios
11-20-2009, 06:46 PM
Special Forces FN MAG

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/7802/cimg0358.jpg

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/4774/cimg0359.jpg

Dalamar
11-21-2009, 03:48 AM
Granatiere, F-585 (Italy)
Duero, M-35 (Spain)
Kallisto, M-63 (Greece)

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=1441&pictureid=18170

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=1441&pictureid=18171

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=1441&pictureid=18173

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=1441&pictureid=18172