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askDNA
08-19-2005, 07:42 PM
Ariz. Ranch Turned Over to Border Crossers

By BETH DeFALCO, Associated Press Writer 22 minutes ago

PHOENIX - An Arizona ranch once owned by a member of an armed group accused of terrorizing illegal immigrants has been turned over to two of the very people the owner had tried keep out of the country.

The land transfer is being done to satisfy a judgment against Casey Nethercott, a member of a self-styled border-watch group who is serving a five-year prison term for firearms possession.

Morris Dees Jr., chief trial counsel of the Southern Poverty Law Center, which represented the immigrants, said he hoped the ruling would be a cautionary tale to anyone considering hostile measures against border crossers.

"When we got into this case, ranchers all along the border were allowing these types to come on their property," said Dees. "Now, they're very leery of it, especially when they see someone loosing their ranch because of it."

The ruling comes as the governors of Arizona and New Mexico declare states of emergency in their border counties, moves designed to free up money for enforcement while drawing more national attention to the problems of illegal immigration.

Nethercott was a member of the group Ranch Rescue, which works to protect private property along the southern U.S. border. In March 2003 he was accused of pistol-whipping Edwin Alfredo Mancia Gonzales, 26, at a Hebbronville, Texas, ranch near the Mexico border.

A jury deadlocked on the assault charge but convicted him of being a felon in possession of a firearm.

Mancia and another immigrant traveling with him from
El Salvador, Fatima del Socorro Leiva Medina, filed a civil lawsuit last year saying they were harmed while being held by Ranch Rescue members.

Named in the suit were Nethercott; Jack Foote, the founder of Ranch Rescue; and the owners of the Hebbronville ranch, Joe and Betty Sutton. The Suttons settled for $100,000. Nethercott and Foote did not defend themselves, and a Texas judge issued default judgments in April of $850,000 against Nethercott and $500,000 against Foote.

Nethercott transferred ownership of his 70-acre Douglas ranch to his sister. But the sister gave up ownership to settle the judgment when challenged by the immigrants' lawyers.

The transfer of the ranch outraged border-watch groups.

"If the federal government was doing its job, ranchers would not be living in fear," said Chris Simcox, President of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corp., a group that watches for illegal immigrant crossings and reports them to the U.S. Border Patrol.

Simcox noted that the Minutemen have a policy against touching the migrants and use video to document their patrols.

A message left for Nethercott's family and his attorney were not returned Friday.

Dees said his clients plan to eventually sell the property, which Nethercott bought for $120,000, but may allow humanitarian border groups offering aid to immigrants to use it for now.

Mancia and Leiva declined through Dees to speak to the media\\ :cantbeli:

BarkingSquirrel
08-19-2005, 07:50 PM
If that doesn't demonstrate just how deep in the ****ter our country is, then I don't know what does. Though the article does get one very important thing wrong, he was accused of threatening to pistol whip them. Do you often serve milk and cookies to people you've just pistol whipped?

Trouble
08-20-2005, 12:22 AM
Ariz. Ranch Turned Over to Border Crossers

By BETH DeFALCO, Associated Press Writer 22 minutes ago

PHOENIX - An Arizona ranch once owned by a member of an armed group accused of terrorizing illegal immigrants has been turned over to two of the very people the owner had tried keep out of the country.

The land transfer is being done to satisfy a judgment against Casey Nethercott, a member of a self-styled border-watch group who is serving a five-year prison term for firearms possession.

Morris Dees Jr., chief trial counsel of the Southern Poverty Law Center, which represented the immigrants, said he hoped the ruling would be a cautionary tale to anyone considering hostile measures against border crossers.

"When we got into this case, ranchers all along the border were allowing these types to come on their property," said Dees. "Now, they're very leery of it, especially when they see someone loosing their ranch because of it."

The ruling comes as the governors of Arizona and New Mexico declare states of emergency in their border counties, moves designed to free up money for enforcement while drawing more national attention to the problems of illegal immigration.

Nethercott was a member of the group Ranch Rescue, which works to protect private property along the southern U.S. border. In March 2003 he was accused of pistol-whipping Edwin Alfredo Mancia Gonzales, 26, at a Hebbronville, Texas, ranch near the Mexico border.

A jury deadlocked on the assault charge but convicted him of being a felon in possession of a firearm.

Mancia and another immigrant traveling with him from
El Salvador, Fatima del Socorro Leiva Medina, filed a civil lawsuit last year saying they were harmed while being held by Ranch Rescue members.

Named in the suit were Nethercott; Jack Foote, the founder of Ranch Rescue; and the owners of the Hebbronville ranch, Joe and Betty Sutton. The Suttons settled for $100,000. Nethercott and Foote did not defend themselves, and a Texas judge issued default judgments in April of $850,000 against Nethercott and $500,000 against Foote.

Nethercott transferred ownership of his 70-acre Douglas ranch to his sister. But the sister gave up ownership to settle the judgment when challenged by the immigrants' lawyers.

The transfer of the ranch outraged border-watch groups.

"If the federal government was doing its job, ranchers would not be living in fear," said Chris Simcox, President of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corp., a group that watches for illegal immigrant crossings and reports them to the U.S. Border Patrol.

Simcox noted that the Minutemen have a policy against touching the migrants and use video to document their patrols.

A message left for Nethercott's family and his attorney were not returned Friday.

Dees said his clients plan to eventually sell the property, which Nethercott bought for $120,000, but may allow humanitarian border groups offering aid to immigrants to use it for now.

Mancia and Leiva declined through Dees to speak to the media\\ :cantbeli:

Let me see if I understand this, these two "immigrants" (read illegal aliens) plan to let groups helping border crossing immigrants (illegal aliens) use this farm to provide aid to these immigrants (illegal Aliens). Is that right?

So they plan to break the law by allowing others to break the law by helping illegal aliens break the law.

So it figures they will probably sell the farm only once they have been shut down and stopped from breaking the law.

Does this mean the Border Patrol and INS will stake out that ranch to catch these "immigrants" as they receive aid while breaking the law?

And of course none of those immigrants will be bringing drugs, crime, or guns with them, and there is no possibility anyone crossing there might be a terrorist or an entire terrorist cell for that matter, and they will all be Mexican, its not like Iraqis, Chinese, and other persons from unfriendly countries have ever tried to cross in to the US from Mexico with in the past 5 years.

So does any one have the address of the first Mexican/ foreign outpost with in the territory of the USA?

Laworkerbee
08-21-2005, 02:36 PM
:cantbeli:

BarkingSquirrel
08-21-2005, 02:37 PM
Your avatar sums it up better than the smiley :|

Wodan
08-22-2005, 05:39 AM
If this did happen here Id go amok and shoot each illegal I see...

Durandal
08-23-2005, 09:05 AM
If that doesn't demonstrate just how deep in the ****ter our country is, then I don't know what does. Though the article does get one very important thing wrong, he was accused of threatening to pistol whip them. Do you often serve milk and cookies to people you've just pistol whipped?

X2

And what astounds me is that some judged takes the property and gives it to foreign national who was ALSO breaking the law.

This $hit drives me nuts.

talib_killa34
08-24-2005, 09:37 PM
I read this and I am absolutely speechless.. :(




:cantbeli:

Teufel_
08-24-2005, 10:18 PM
:roll: what a judiciary

cchccrowder
08-24-2005, 10:47 PM
whatever happened to trespassing? :| ur allowed to do taht if they TRESPASS!! :fork:

SavikLion
08-25-2005, 03:25 AM
Total bull poop, I hope this is fake, but I know it isn't. At least we got Cafta and Nafta now, that will be what saves this nation. Oh yeah and the unprecidented outsourcing of labor and manufacturing. Cause you know it all comes around in the end. :cantbeli:

BarkingSquirrel
08-26-2005, 03:36 AM
Unfortunetly it's not fake. Glenn Beck had the guy on air last week that manages the ranch being stolen by the government.