Digital camera

[Roger Rabbit]

What do you reckon to the digital camera i've just ordered? I know its cheap but so am i.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000C6YJO/ref=sr_aps_electronics_1_1/202-4186190-5483050

[USMarine3521]

should be okay, you dont really need 5 megapixel cameras (or more) unless you really really want super nice quality....like me :lol:

i spent over 1500 USD on mine. :D

[Roger Rabbit]

I just want to take pictures of my masculine body to put Jack to shame.

BTW where do i get photoshop? Might be needing it in the near future.

[USMarine3521]

you want to download it, photoshop costs like 400 USD or something like that.

if you have kazaa then you can easily get it from there.

[cut]

you got ripped off, mate ;)

[Upfrontreporting]

USMarineDEP:

what kind of camera do have?

I use a Nikon D100 myself.



regards

[Salty Dog]

the camera looks nice rupert.

[Roger Rabbit]

Thanks, it should be here tomorrow so i shall soon bore you all with my random photos.

[Seoulstriker]

excellent choice! it will suit you nicely.

[NcDeuce]

I got the old Olympus D-380 a couple summers ago. It was cheap and it does everything I need.

[Argyll]

Well I got a nice 4 megapixel from my wife for XMas,not a brand name,but she got it half price,it was supposed to be £230,she got it for £115!
takes pretty good pics!

[Trigger]

Don't tease us Argyll. Post some pics of Bonny Scotland :D

[Jack Mehoff]

I just want to take pictures of my masculine body to put Jack to shame.

BTW where do i get photoshop? Might be needing it in the near future.

http://64.106.169.225/Clients/kinkade/Album3/bukkake.gif

[farmgirl]

Don't tease us Argyll. Post some pics of Bonny Scotland :D


and some pics of you in your kilt..... playing the bagpipes....
You know how Joe likes a skirt.... ;)

[California Joe]

Don't tease us Argyll. Post some pics of Bonny Scotland :D

Just no more pics of the "wet kilt" contests you were in. *shudder*

[Argyll]

Well once it stops bloody raining I'll post some thing for you all!

Sorry no wet kilt contest Joe,you'll not be able to contain yourself!!!!

[California Joe]

True, the gay is strong with me. I'm an artist and all. ;)

[Argyll]

nothing wrong with being gay mate,it's them fuc*ing queers i don't like!!

http://www.oban.org.uk/images/obanbay1.jpg

My home town


http://www.oban.org.uk/images/lochetive.jpg

Where I used to stay when I was a kid!

[California Joe]

Hah. So it's OK if it's a girl sheep.

[Argyll]

"Ewe" should be so lucky!!

[California Joe]

Pretty country.

[Argyll]

Here's a wee snippet of my home town as well


http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/oban/oban/

look at the links on the right especially Loch Etive!

[California Joe]

The hills remind me of where I'm from in Vermont. Course the county I'm from is called Caledonia county. Makes sense.

[Argyll]

Yeah but I bet it don't piss with rain most days!!

[California Joe]

Not most days. But it is winter up there about 5 months of the year.

Canon and Olympus are the best brands for digital cameras. Good buy.

[Argyll]

What?Leaving already? rofl

[EvanL]

Most similar area to scotland in the world is Nova Scotia and Newfoundland. If you were blindfolded and dropped off there you wouldnt know the difference. Even the accents are similar. Except in newfoundland where they all sound like pattys.

[Argyll]

Aye but here in Scotland you can go for a dump in the woods without a Brown Bear looking up your ass!!

[Midtown]

I just want to take pictures of my masculine body to put Jack to shame.

BTW where do i get photoshop? Might be needing it in the near future.

Does anyone else find that funny? (not the comment about your masculin body) but the remark after?

[Roger Rabbit]

I dont get it? It's not a joke. Ok to clear things up what i meant is i would like to get hold of photoshop so i can play around with photos and also enhance them and what not.

[Trigger]

I thought it was funny, as in 'I'm going to need Photoshop to enhance the pics of my body' to compete with Jack :D
No need to get bent Midtown. Wait until he brings up hockey or buttsex. :D

[Roger Rabbit]

Ahhh i get it now. Ok thats fairly amusing, unintentional but amusing all the same.

[Uncle Sam]

OK, I need a new one.

There’s so many to choose from. Maybe you could give me some experiences with a certain model and whatnot.

I had a 3.2 mega pixel camera, but it kept going through batteries like after 2 pictures, so I got mad and threw it away.

Can someone recommend a good 5 mp or higher that’s:

Good on battery life

Easy to use

Small with at least a 2-2.5 screen

Good size memory

Etc..

---------------------*UPDATE*--------------------------

This was a tough decision.

There are, well it seems like there are, a million different cameras out there, and to narrow down the field I came here asking advice....And it was good, and I appreciate everyone who pitched in.

It took most of the day yesterday and the previous night on the internet reading review after review after review, but it helped. I also found the model I wanted at the local Best Buy and went and tried it out.

I wanted something small, light, easy to use, with a big screen (My eyes ain't what they used to be...Ha Ha), that took quality, all around, everyday pictures

The field narrowed down to:

1. Sony DSC W1
2. SONY DSC W5 (Thanks Jack)
3. NIKON Coolpix 5900 (Thanks James)
4. Casio Exilim EX-Z57
5. Canon powershot SD500 and the rest of elph series

The one I picked, after reading all the reviews was the....Drum roll please...


Sony DSC W5.

For it's build quality, picture quality, and it can be upgraded with different lenses, 2100 mAh AA NiMH batteries, built in 32mb memory (I will get a bigger memory card of course) ... And it has a 2.5" screen.

I based the decision off the reviews of the W1 and alot of what was wrong with the W1 got fixed with the W5.

Yippie!

[FDF_Hemppis]

Canon's A-series is pretty much the de-facto in pocketable cameras, and the IXUS/SD-series is hot stuff in the ultra-compact section.

Pentax also has some very small cameras, as does Sony. But it really comes down to personal preferences :)

You might want to check out some of the reviews at www.dpreview.com

[1Cie GevGn]

lol impulsbuy after you visit the beach??? You nasty nasty man :lol:

[Kap]

Try any Sony series. You can actually get a cheap 7.2MP camera from Sony. I think it's only 50 USD more than a sony 5.1MP

They are also fairly small and can fit in any pocket size

[Uncle Sam]

Do any of you have first hand experience with any of these cameras?

[James]

Nikon Coolpix 5.1 megs

It's the bees knees.

[Uncle Sam]

Nikon Coolpix 5.1 megs

It's the bees knees.

Ok, which one...There's like 20 different Coolpixs' on their website... :lol:

[James]

Nikon Coolpix 5.1 megs

It's the bees knees.

Ok, which one...There's like 20 different Coolpixs' on their website... :lol:

Mine is the 5200.

[mi35d]

Kodak just came out with a new series of psuedo SLR type cameras that are rather good. (I believe the series is 780?)

Very impressed with their ease of use.

[Uncle Sam]

Thanks everyone...

@mi35d...I can't find any info on that?? But I'm thinking of point and shoot over SLR.

[futurepilot2004]

Canon 300d, lovely camera.

[Uncle Sam]

OK, "easy to use"...Key feature I want. :lol:

Point and shoot...auto everything...ya' know...Easy! woot

@ James...I like that one, thanks for the info.

[Uncle Sam]

Bump.

Anyone else?

[Beinlausen]

Nikon CoolPix 8700 SLR

:D its badass

[Uncle Sam]

Thanks to everyone again

To reiterate though:


5 mp or higher

Good on battery life

Easy to use (Point and shoot...auto everything...ya' know...Easy!)

Small with at least a 2-2.5" screen

Good size memory

[Herrmannek]

megapixels are least important... go for good optics, sensor quality, output pictures, low light, speed of the camera, macro, optical zoom and manual setitings of expositon(shuterspeed, cover, focus) they are very important if you happen to make some other than standard pics and i varrant you will, like details, camp fire pics etc... Don't let megapxiels to lead you on the dark side

[Jack Mehoff]

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[Uncle Sam]

megapixels are least important... go for good optics, sensor quality, output pictures, low light, speed of the camera, macro, optical zoom and manual setitings of expositon(shuterspeed, cover, focus) they are very important if you happen to make some other than standard pics and i varrant you will, like details, camp fire pics etc... Don't let megapxiels to lead you on the dark side

OK, what would you recommend? I don't want to do a whole lot of work to take a picture.

[Beinlausen]

anything Nikon or anything with a Karl Zeiss lence

[§nake]

I'm now using a Canon Powershot S400, and loving it.

[Herrmannek]

megapixels are least important... go for good optics, sensor quality, output pictures, low light, speed of the camera, macro, optical zoom and manual setitings of expositon(shuterspeed, cover, focus) they are very important if you happen to make some other than standard pics and i varrant you will, like details, camp fire pics etc... Don't let megapxiels to lead you on the dark side

OK, what would you recommend? I don't want to do a whole lot of work to take a picture.
i don't plan buying camera now so I can't advice you any model, rule of thumb is to buy from company who oryginaly made cameras so no sony, hp or **** :) because they go for quantity not quality... you should go to some digital photo forum, I'm sure they wil advice you something suiting your needs basing on their better situation awartness

by manual i didn't meant you have to do things manualy but that you can if you need/want.. automatics are good for 80 percent of pics rest 20 are to hard for them, ie they take focus on somethng else they should etc things...

[Aerosoul]

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Is that yours Jack? I like it. I'm thinking about getting one myself. Never had one.

[DANJANOU]

Ok a couple of questions first. Well three actually.
First what do you need it for?
Second what’s your budget like?
Three how comfortable are you with cameras?

If you’re a serious professional photographer (and if so why are you asking advice here?) with unlimited mounds of cash to spend, hey look at something like a Canon Rebel digital SLR with all the bells and whistles. If you need it just for pics of family BBQs and/or you trip to Disney land and are enjoying the joys of the high paying fast food industry there are plenty of small point and shoots out there that will fit the bill and within your budget.

Plenty of fairly good advice already offered here including some good brand names. I’ll toss in another Fuji. I supplement my income working as a freelance travel photographer (I’m too lazy to take notes on trips so I shoot everything now, that old picture is worth a thousand words bit) and I went over top the dark side of digital last year.

Bought my wife a Fuji 3.2 mega pixel point and shoot and was so impressed with it, that when it was time to get me something I bought from them as well. Fairly well priced, good quality, and overall smaller and lighter than others of comparable capabilities mainly due to the tiny xD memory cards Fuji and Olympus developed.

Their S5100 is a fairly good one (I have one) small, light body, works in either “I’m stupid full auto mode” or enough settings etc to make a pro or semi pro not look at it in disgust. Several lenses, wide angle, telephoto available for it in addition to the built in 10x optical zoom.

Also as someone said don’t get wrapped up in mega pixel size as the be all, end all. 4 is good enough for most stuff, I can get good 8x10 prints from a 4. Unless you’re doing posters you don’t need a 6 or 7 (although again if you can afford it go for it).

You may want to check out a couple of online shopping comparison sites like www.epinions.com part of shopping.com. Reviews of cameras there are by people who actually bought and use it as opposes to the manufacturers.

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

Wait, you threw away your camera because your batteries ran out too quick? This will happen on every digital camera. Buy either rechargeable ones to put in or get a camera with a built in rechargeable battery. It'll save you a fortune.

If you're after a relatively cheap one, but still good quality, go for Olympus. Don't buy any Fuji cameras other than the S5500 and upwards, their cheap ones always break down.

Sony's are very good, but like everything with "Sony" on it, it will be more expensive than an equally good euivalent.

(PS. Only buy memory card that come with a lifetime guarantee.)

[DANJANOU]

Gypsum, 5500 is the European designation for the 5100 IIRC. Good point re memory cards. Also stick with the brand names, there are generic ones out there cheaper, but you get what you pay for.

[DANJANOU]

I also missed the battery bit first time. Almost all digital cameras are battery hogs. That's why every camera shop has that honking big display of rechargables and chargers by the cash.

[Uncle Sam]

@DANJANOU

First what do you need it for? Just to take general pictures, easily. Nothing fancy

Second what’s your budget like? No budget constraints

Three how comfortable are you with cameras? I'm mechanically inclined, but I don't want a camera that takes more time fiddling with than to shoot the actual picture.

I'm not a serious photographer

@&lt;Gypsum Fantastic>

I threw it away because it was a cheapie I bought just to take pictures with, and it was eating batteries like after 2 times using the flash it would just not work until I put fresh batteries in.

The reason I posted was just to get ideas from what you guys were using and to get some sort of feedback.

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

Gypsum, 5500 is the European designation for the 5100 IIRC. Good point re memory cards. Also stick with the brand names, there are generic ones out there cheaper, but you get what you pay for.

I didn't know that. 5100 then, it's damn good but not compact.

Also, as was previously stated, don't always go by mega-pixels. Fuji cameras don't regard mega-pixels to be as important as the lens and the technology inside.

I used to work in an electronics superstore so I know whats a rip off and what isn't. Don't buy anything off display!

[Stavka]

I have a Canon Ixus 4. Love it. Excellent camera.

Best I've ever played around with was some sort of Minolta Dimage. Man, that is the rolls royce.

[DANJANOU]

Uncle Sam,

In that case take a look around (try some camera/photog sites) and ask some serious questions. Just because you can afford it doesn’t mean you need to waste money. Gypsum seems to be a good source.

Gypsum, yeah not compact compared to say a 3.2 point and shoot, but I found it fun to use and easy to drag around on my last trip to Honduras especially compared to some mammoth Nikons and Canons. Besides it ain’t the size of the telephoto lens that counts, but the skill of the photog :lol:

[wormie]

Canon SD500.

[Uncle Sam]

Thanks again everyone. I'll be going tomorrow to do some "hands on" camera shopping.

[Haiw]

I'm using a Canon Powershot A95. Combined a 512 MB flashcard, 2 sets of 2300 mAh batteries and a recharger I think it's a pretty nice setup. :)

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

Uncle sam, most digital cameras will eat a couple of AA batteries in about 10-20 pics anyway but if it was a cheap one it doesn't matter. . As I said buy some high powered rechargeable ones (1800+ mah) or get one with it's own battery. It's the LCD screen that does it, alot of cameras now have settings where you can turn the LCD off and just use the viewfinder, which can save loads of power.




Gypsum, yeah not compact compared to say a 3.2 point and shoot, but I found it fun to use and easy to drag around on my last trip to Honduras especially compared to some mammoth Nikons and Canons. Besides it ain’t the size of the telephoto lens that counts, but the skill of the photog :lol:

Yeah, it's just the right size to be a proper camera with a good zoom and still be light and small enough to carry. It's a very good camera, in terms of value for money it's easily the best out there, that's why i've got one. ;)

[Uncle Sam]

Uncle sam, most digital cameras will eat a couple of AA batteries in about 10-20 pics anyway but if it was a cheap one it doesn't matter. . As I said buy some high powered rechargeable ones (1800+ mah) or get one with it's own battery. It's the LCD screen that does it, alot of cameras now have settings where you can turn the LCD off and just use the viewfinder, which can save loads of power

Thanks for the advice. I've seen some ones on here that I like, but I want to "see" them, and try them out a little before making a decision.

[DANJANOU]

Thanks for the advice. I've seen some ones on here that I like, but I want to "see" them, and try them out a little before making a decision.

Now that is the best advice you'll ever get/follow.

[disabled1]

mn my digital camera is ol as ****

[stuntman]

Sony CyberShot DSC-P8 3.2M
http://www.digitaltechnika.hu/digif/sony/images/p8.jpg
had it for about 3 years this June. It takes great pictures like this one,
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/studrican22/Oct2804041.jpgNYC USA !

[Upfrontreporting]

If it's not to late and you have already decided, then here is my take on the camera issues.

I'd say go either with any from Canon Ixus series or Sony DSC-Pxxx series, then you can't go wrong.

I'have used a Canon Ixus in various work related scenarios (picture documentation) while doing CA/CIMIC work and it didn't let me down.



regards
Upfrontreporting

[Umm-Qasr]

I have an 'older' Canon A75 and it's still amazingly a good cam. It makes great pictures with vivid colors and as big as you want them. :D

[11F5S]

This site has a lot of good info.

http://www.steves-digicams.com/

[11F5S]

Uncle sam, most digital cameras will eat a couple of AA batteries in about 10-20 pics anyway but if it was a cheap one it doesn't matter. . As I said buy some high powered rechargeable ones (1800+ mah) or get one with it's own battery. It's the LCD screen that does it, alot of cameras now have settings where you can turn the LCD off and just use the viewfinder, which can save loads of power.

I have an Olympus C-750 Ultra Zoom (4 MP) it uses 4 AA Nmh's and I get about 150-200 pics out of one charge.

Buying a camera that uses rechargeable AA's rather than a proprietary battery will save big bucks over the life of the camera.

[tenda]

Nikon Coolpix 5.1 megs

It's the bees knees.
...yess coolpix series are the best... ;)

[Javehn]

Whatever you do , don't buy Vivitar . It just sucks . Specialy Vivitar 3745 .

[disabled1]

my advice is dont buy a cheap camera

[Uncle Sam]

Bump...

Update on page one.

[1Cie GevGn]

Sounds good. Now get out there and take some pics of those girls in bikini's p-)

[Uncle Sam]

Sounds good. Now get out there and take some pics of those girls in bikini's p-)

I would, but I don't have it yet. Best Buy was out, so I had to order it. Monday I should get it, and I'll post some pics of the girls around here.

[Jack Mehoff]

Newegg sells Sony DSC-W5 for likee $303

[Uncle Sam]

Newegg sells Sony DSC-W5 for likee $303

Now ya' tell me...! :lol:

It's really not a matter of cost. I don't mind paying a little more at a brick and mortor, and to get it Monday. No biggie.

Thanks for that link btw.

[Jacko]

Good choice on the Sony, it's a fun camera. I upgraded from that to a Nikon N65, which is actually a film SLR, about a year ago. Course, I just bought a Nikon D70, so now I'm back to digital and couldn't be happier I can use the same lenses. :)

[Seraphim]

Friend wanted to sell his dsc w5 for 160 to me.

[WackyWoodChuck]

I Love my digital camera. I don't know what i would do without it. What one do you have? Post a pic of the camera!

Here's mine Finepix S5500, it's 4 Megapixels I think, it doesnt say on the camera. But it takes great quality pics at like 2024x1600...something resolution. AWESOME!!!
http://www.fujifilm.no/digimaker/documents/S5500_1_700pxl_3En4kf567xl.jpg

My friends got kodak cameras, and I dunno what models they are, but at 5 megapixels them cameras suck, or maybe they just dont know how to take pictures.

woot

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

Here's mine...





http://www.fujifilm.no/digimaker/documents/S5500_1_700pxl_3En4kf567xl.jpg

woot

[WackyWoodChuck]

One of my mentaly retarted friends got this camera. The Nikon D2X, he bought it for $3,150. I asked him why he spent soo much money on a camera when he dosnt shoot profesionally, and really only takes 5 pictures a month... he didnt have an answer, so as I said retarted.

http://akam.no/images/nikon/digitalkamera/d2x/nikon_d2x_4.jpg

[WackyWoodChuck]

BTW his Nikon camera is 12.4 megapixels

[WackyWoodChuck]

Here's mine...





http://www.fujifilm.no/digimaker/documents/S5500_1_700pxl_3En4kf567xl.jpg

woot

SAME AS MINE!! ROCK ON!!

[Howie Kaluha]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0007TJ5OG.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0007TJ5OG.01.PT01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[WackyWoodChuck]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0007TJ5OG.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0007TJ5OG.01.PT01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

How are the pictures with the canon?

[Howie Kaluha]

Absolutely beautiful :D

[Beinlausen]

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/article/20010427/a20.jpg

got that

wants this

http://www.fotovilag.hu/teszt/nikon/nik-8800/NIKON-8800_1.jpg

[Bryson C]

I have a 3.2MP HP M307. But I want to up-grade.

[Uncle Sam]

Just picked this up today. I'm still reading the manual, but I like it already...

Sony Cybershot DSC W5

http://www.jjmehta.com/images/sony_dsc_w5_01.jpg

http://www.jjmehta.com/images/sony_dsc_w5_02.jpg

[RoyalAir]

here's mine


http://www.fujifilm.no/digimaker/documents/S5500_1_700pxl_3En4kf567xl.jpg

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

here's mine


http://www.fujifilm.no/digimaker/documents/S5500_1_700pxl_3En4kf567xl.jpg

We own... woot

[Bryson C]

here's mine


http://www.fujifilm.no/digimaker/documents/S5500_1_700pxl_3En4kf567xl.jpg

We own... woot

My dream Camera.

[meph.]

http://www.digimanie.cz/digimanie/products.nsf/140DDF420B26A98BC1256C7E006C7939/$file/F100.jpg

4 mpix, 3 years old, but still nice.
eats a lot of crv3 batteries though :/

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

Minolta make damn good cameras. Extremely well built.

For batteries, all digital cameras eat them up. Get some rechargeable AA's. It'll save you a fortune.

[meph.]

Minolta make damn good cameras. Extremely well built.

For batteries, all digital cameras eat them up. Get some rechargeable AA's. It'll save you a fortune.

i have rechargable AAs too, but with them i can make 15-20 pics with 1 pair of AAs, that sucks. with crv3 batteries its possible to make 150-200, and if yo u buy them on ebay in packs of 10, they are not that expensive (2-3€ per cell, in comparison with varta batteries from our local supplier which are 15€ for 1(!) cell.

[DANJANOU]

The Fuji 5500 shown is also known as the 5100 in North America. Bought one about 5 months ago. Good piece of kit for the price, light, functional, great picture quality, and surprisingly not a real battery hog. Mind I have 3 sets (4xAA each) of rechargeables in the camera bag.

[CQB_Operator]

Here's is mine
http://www.canon.com.au/images/big_products/ixus_40_front%20small.jpg

[Turbo]

Nikon cool pics 950

[budanski]

Got mine this past Christmas...Canon EOS 20D (http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=139&modelid=10464[/img)

http://img87.exs.cx/img87/8914/canon9yx.jpg
http://consumer.usa.canon.com/app/images/d_eos/20d_586x225.jpg

[v-twin]

Good old A75. I love this camera though I still take most of my pictures on "auto"

http://www.xiangji.net/pic/canon-a75-l.jpg
http://www.inoax.com/dump/dump/A75.jpg

[D.Sigurdsson]

Sony DSP-31 and a Kodak Z740

This is the Kodak
http://files.bns-code.org/newcam.jpg

[Jack Mehoff]

Sony DSC-W1
http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/30-150-046-02.JPG

Sony Cybershot
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2002_reviews/sony_p31/p31_front_blk.jpg

[Seahawk_73]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v484/seahawk_3/untitledsadasd.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v484/seahawk_3/untitledfdgsdf.jpg

[Seahawk_73]

holy double post, sorry

[Scottie]

i would like to get one of the new Sony T1

http://www.xiangji.net/pic/sony-T1-l-n.jpg

or atleast one of the slim ones :)

Got mine this past Christmas...Canon EOS 20D (http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=139&modelid=10464[/img)

http://img87.exs.cx/img87/8914/canon9yx.jpg
http://consumer.usa.canon.com/app/images/d_eos/20d_586x225.jpg

my dad got the same camera just a couple of weeks ago, i love the noise when it takes a photo, very professional

[Mark Sman]

My EOS300D with case, 1 gig memory CF card, spare battery, charger, 75-300mm zoom lense, 420EX speedlight and cables.
Picture taken with the Canon SD500 I bought today.
Full size image http://illuminationline.com/netnut/eos300dl.jpg
http://illuminationline.com/netnut/eos300d.jpg

My Canon SD500 with 512meg SD card and all the other crap in a box in the living room.
Full size image http://illuminationline.com/netnut/sd500l.jpg
http://illuminationline.com/netnut/sd500.jpg

I bought a new camera today! I've taken 4038 pictures with my EOS300d and 34 with my new SD500. Be interesting to see where that number stands in a year.

Homer voice "20D Ooooooooooooh."

[wormie]

My EOS300D with case, 1 gig memory CF card, spare battery, charger, 75-300mm zoom lense, 420EX speedlight and cables.
Picture taken with the Canon SD500 I bought today.
Full size image http://illuminationline.com/netnut/eos300dl.jpg
http://illuminationline.com/netnut/eos300d.jpg

My Canon SD500 with 512meg SD card and all the other crap in a box in the living room.
Full size image http://illuminationline.com/netnut/sd500l.jpg
http://illuminationline.com/netnut/sd500.jpg

I bought a new camera today! I've taken 4038 pictures with my EOS300d and 34 with my new SD500. Be interesting to see where that number stands in a year.

Homer voice "20D Ooooooooooooh."

I've got an SD500 as well, mine is a little roughed up as I carry it in my pocket everywhere... :( But it is a ****ing awesome camera. :D

[robaco]

I would like to buy a new digital camera, which one should i buy? any suggestions?

[Howie Kaluha]

this baby. i have one myself.


http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/sd400.html

[disabled1]

dont buy vivitar they are cheap and lousy

[Zarathustra]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/DonSalluzt/canon.jpg

[Seahawk_73]

Mine -
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/dx7630.html

[CQB_Operator]

Here's mine
http://canon.nyherji.is/assets/images/ixus400-allround.jpg

[Malc]

http://www.metratonit.co.nz/files/t_1324.jpg

Heres mine a Ixus 30, very good quality picture for a 3.2, good rechargable battery.

[Fargin]

With a little luck I'll own either a Konica Monitla Maxxum D7 or a Dynax D7 in a weeks time and be $1.700 poorer.

[robaco]

i was thinking about buying a canon digital rebel, is it a good camera?

[Argyll]

I have the EOS 350D (8 megapixels)


It's a great camera,and simple to use........but can be complicated if you want it to be!!!

[robaco]

how much did you paid for it?

[Fargin]

B&H sells if for $7-800

[robaco]

B&H?

[Fargin]

EOS Digital Rebel (a.k.a. 300D), 6.3 Megapixel, SLR, Digital Camera (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=search&Q=&b=8&a=706_6215&shs=&ci=6222&ac=&Submit.x=16&Submit.y=12)

8 Megapixel (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=search&Q=&b=8&a=706_6374&shs=&ci=6222&ac=&Submit.x=6&Submit.y=7)

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

Depends what you want.

Compact, or bigger one with much better zoom? Price range?

If you are going for compact the Canon IXUS series are damn good. Very well built, solid feel and they come with a rechargeable battery. But only 3x optical zoom.

If you want a bigger zoom (10x) then I highly recommend the Fuji s5500 (I think it has a different model name in the US). Fantastic pictures, well built, but you will need to buy seperate rechargeable batteries and it is bigger.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms5100/images/3q-001.jpg

But whatever camera you decide upon, follow these simple rules....

1) Buy rechargeable batteries. The LCD screen eats up standard batteries alive. You will get about 6-10 pictures from two AA batteries. Buy a good pack of high powered (1800+ mah) rechargeable batteries and they will last longer and be reuseable. This will save you a **** load of money. Take this into account on the price of the camera. Some cameras come with rechargeable batteries, make sure you check.

2) Megapixels do NOT make a better camera. Companies like putting big numbers on things because it makes people buy them. Ignore the megapixels, it all depends on the camera itself. Unless you are a professional photographer anything over 4 is pretty much the same. (e.g. Canon EOS at 6 megapixels is 10x better than a Kodak 6 Mp).

Think of it like this. A car with 240 bhp is not always faster than a car with 200 bhp. There are many other factors.

3) Always buy memory cards with a lifetime warranty. Most do now. If something has a lifetime warranty it means it won't break, that is a good thing.

4) Check if it comes with a case. 99% of cameras don't, and they can be more expensive than you realise. Do you even need one? Again, add that to the price.

5) NEVER buy off display. If you are buying from an old fashioned shop type place, DO NOT buy the display model. Just don't.

I can't think of anything else right now...

[disabled1]

i feel very behind in technology

[pathfinder82]

kids :roll: I still have my manual.

[robaco]

Well, that as very enlightening, &lt;Gypsum Fantastic>, thank you

I had a pont & shoot camera for a long time, and i was thinking about buying a more profissional camera this time, something around $700.

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

Well, that as very enlightening, &lt;Gypsum Fantastic>, thank you

I had a pont & shoot camera for a long time, and i was thinking about buying a more profissional camera this time, something around $700.

$700. Nice, go for Canon EOS series, whatever the best one is for your money. Also check out the Nikon D70, supposed to be very good.

[robaco]

thank you very much for your help, Gypsum Fantastic

do rather nikon or canon?

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

thank you very much for your help, Gypsum Fantastic

do rather nikon or canon?

Haven't used the Nikon myself, so it's hard to say.

But i'd be inclined to go for the Canon. They are a consistently good brand, top quality and very reliable. If you bought the Canon you would never be disappointed.

[Fargin]

I've been checking out both the N70, EOS and D7D and every store I've been to, recommended either Nikon or Canon. But I've decided on the prizier D7D because of it's anit shake and easy access controles. Totally irrationel as always.



kids :roll: I still have my manual.
Yea and I got a record player, that doesn't make me a musical genious. ;)

[TheKiwi]

Go have a squiz at Digital Camera Review. http://www.dpreview.com/ They have lots of reviews and seem to be unbiased.

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

The stupid reasons are sometimes the best reasons to buy a camera.

[robaco]

But I've decided on the prizier D7D because of it's anit shake and easy access controles. Totally irrationel as always.

And what are your impressions about it?

[Fargin]

Every single shop recommended Nikon and Canon, but after holding each camera the KM D7D was sold. I liked the buildin Anti-Shake in the body, instead in lenses. It's sturdyness and the size appeals to me(fallos complex ;) ). Ergonomical it fits me and also the manual dials, instead of screen menues. The biggest con is the price, even more than an eight megapixel EOS 20D.

Right now I'm thinking of buying through B&H Photo, unless I can make a favourable deal in a danish store tomorrow: Camera, Grip and flash. I'd like the danish manual, but not for the prize they're offering in stores round Copenhagen.

[gaijinsamurai]

I've owned a lot of good-quality cameras: Pentax, Olympus, Canon, and Minolta. I currently use a Canon IXY (called "Ixus" in the US, I believe) 5.0 megapix digital, a Canon EOS 35mm SLR, and a Minolta 35mm auto.
I live in Japan, where people are photography fanatics, and Nikon and Canon definitely have the best reputations.
Casio makes a very reliable and simple to use digital camera, and they aren't bad.
Sony is always on the forefront of style and technology, and their digital cameras are popular.
In the end, however, I'd go with Canon. You won't be disappointed.

[scrybe]

Cannon makes very good digital cameras. I have the SD300 and love it.

[gaz]

I've got a Canon Ixus 500 (http://www.canon.co.uk/for_home/product_finder/cameras/digital/digital_ixus_500/index.asp) and a Concord 4060AF (http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/iq4060.html).

The Concord is great for taking to parties since if I get drunk and lose it it's not going to put a huge dent in my bank balance to replace it and it's also incredibly simple to use. The Canon is far better quality and is great for holidays and such but is still relatively simple.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

If you want a bigger zoom (10x) then I highly recommend the Fuji s5500 (I think it has a different model name in the US). Fantastic pictures, well built, but you will need to buy seperate rechargeable batteries and it is bigger.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms5100/images/3q-001.jpgI bought one 3 weeks ago and I have no regrets bought a Tamrac case for it which seems sturdy enough.

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

If you want a bigger zoom (10x) then I highly recommend the Fuji s5500 (I think it has a different model name in the US). Fantastic pictures, well built, but you will need to buy seperate rechargeable batteries and it is bigger.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms5100/images/3q-001.jpgI bought one 3 weeks ago and I have no regrets bought a Tamrac case for it which seems sturdy enough.

That's what i've got, and what about half the members of MP.net seem to have!

It's a perfect compromise between a simple point and click and a professional camera. It's as complicated as you want it to be.

[Nugget]

http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/images/upload/SonyDSC-W1FrontAngled.jpg
http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/images/upload/SonyDSC-W1Backt.jpg

it comes in black ... and i loooove the big screen. This is my first and best digital cam ever .. but i do want a SLR.

all these pics were taken at 1\1000 shots

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8259/dsc018898nq.jpg
http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/4438/dsc018880mt.jpg
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8916/dsc008294ax.jpg
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/9426/dsc018806xf.jpg
http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/3632/dsc018788dv.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9776/dsc018324un.jpg

[Nugget]

Depends what you want.

Compact, or bigger one with much better zoom? Price range?

If you are going for compact the Canon IXUS series are damn good. Very well built, solid feel and they come with a rechargeable battery. But only 3x optical zoom.

If you want a bigger zoom (10x) then I highly recommend the Fuji s5500 (I think it has a different model name in the US). Fantastic pictures, well built, but you will need to buy seperate rechargeable batteries and it is bigger.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms5100/images/3q-001.jpg

But whatever camera you decide upon, follow these simple rules....

1) Buy rechargeable batteries. The LCD screen eats up standard batteries alive. You will get about 6-10 pictures from two AA batteries. Buy a good pack of high powered (1800+ mah) rechargeable batteries and they will last longer and be reuseable. This will save you a **** load of money. Take this into account on the price of the camera. Some cameras come with rechargeable batteries, make sure you check.

2) Megapixels do NOT make a better camera. Companies like putting big numbers on things because it makes people buy them. Ignore the megapixels, it all depends on the camera itself. Unless you are a professional photographer anything over 4 is pretty much the same. (e.g. Canon EOS at 6 megapixels is 10x better than a Kodak 6 Mp).

Think of it like this. A car with 240 bhp is not always faster than a car with 200 bhp. There are many other factors.

3) Always buy memory cards with a lifetime warranty. Most do now. If something has a lifetime warranty it means it won't break, that is a good thing.

4) Check if it comes with a case. 99% of cameras don't, and they can be more expensive than you realise. Do you even need one? Again, add that to the price.

5) NEVER buy off display. If you are buying from an old fashioned shop type place, DO NOT buy the display model. Just don't.

I can't think of anything else right now...

and lens quality .. i heard carl ziess makes the world best

[<Gypsum Fantastic>]

Depends what you want.

Compact, or bigger one with much better zoom? Price range?

If you are going for compact the Canon IXUS series are damn good. Very well built, solid feel and they come with a rechargeable battery. But only 3x optical zoom.

If you want a bigger zoom (10x) then I highly recommend the Fuji s5500 (I think it has a different model name in the US). Fantastic pictures, well built, but you will need to buy seperate rechargeable batteries and it is bigger.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms5100/images/3q-001.jpg

But whatever camera you decide upon, follow these simple rules....

1) Buy rechargeable batteries. The LCD screen eats up standard batteries alive. You will get about 6-10 pictures from two AA batteries. Buy a good pack of high powered (1800+ mah) rechargeable batteries and they will last longer and be reuseable. This will save you a **** load of money. Take this into account on the price of the camera. Some cameras come with rechargeable batteries, make sure you check.

2) Megapixels do NOT make a better camera. Companies like putting big numbers on things because it makes people buy them. Ignore the megapixels, it all depends on the camera itself. Unless you are a professional photographer anything over 4 is pretty much the same. (e.g. Canon EOS at 6 megapixels is 10x better than a Kodak 6 Mp).

Think of it like this. A car with 240 bhp is not always faster than a car with 200 bhp. There are many other factors.

3) Always buy memory cards with a lifetime warranty. Most do now. If something has a lifetime warranty it means it won't break, that is a good thing.

4) Check if it comes with a case. 99% of cameras don't, and they can be more expensive than you realise. Do you even need one? Again, add that to the price.

5) NEVER buy off display. If you are buying from an old fashioned shop type place, DO NOT buy the display model. Just don't.

I can't think of anything else right now...

and lens quality .. i heard carl ziess makes the world best

Of course, lens quality is a contributing factor. Carl Zeiss are definately the best known and amongst the finest, but the Fuji (pic above) is equally as good as, if not better than anything you'll get out of a Sony with a Zeiss lens. Fuji lenses are very highly rated (despite their lower end cameras being piss poor for reliability).

In fact Fuji don't properly rate their cameras in megapixels. Because they say their lenses and technology make it better than the actual pixel count. They rate it in effective pixels. Which means although it is only actually 4 mp, it is the equivalent of 6 effective mp.

But i'd urge anyone buying a camera to look up some reviews on the net. And preferably some genuine customer comments, ignore what the customers say, because they don't know **** 99% of the time, but you'll learn how reliable a camera is through them alone. No reviewer can take into account the reliability of a camera.

[wulfstan]

Here's mine
http://canon.nyherji.is/assets/images/ixus400-allround.jpg

I have that one too, it rocks and is great for snapping the missus naked (which i do all the time).

[Fargin]

What kind of f***en life is this.

I decided to buy danish instead of online, even though that added an extra $300 to the price with taxes'n ****. I swear to god this country would selfdestruct with these kind of monopolized prices, if we weren't so filthy rich. I even went to the most prominent photo store in Copenhagen and they had the nerve to charge $2.300 for a max $1.000 camera(ex. lens). After saying you're out of your mind and leaving the store, I ended up buying a 7D and a cheap lens for a mere $1.600.

So yeah... I payed tax and a $3-400 overprice to take the camera home today, only to find out the thing don't accept the lens. I'm gonna get a new lens tomorrow, I've regretted almost anything I've done in my life, but I'm still happy about my purchase.

[HaRdLy]

Nikon, Nikon, Nikon.

'Nuff said?

[robaco]

I have a doubt about the Canon's 18-55mm lens, how much zoom can i get with it? and what about the macro?

[V/E]

Here's mine
http://canon.nyherji.is/assets/images/ixus400-allround.jpg

x2


http://www.riccos-camera.de/images/big/canonwpdc800_p.jpg
Get one of those, they are great....dont forget to buy the UW case while your at it....

http://www.camerasunderwater.co.uk/d_stills/canon/wpdc800.html

[SEAHAWK]

Here is mine;

http://www.obchodni-dum.cz/file.phtml/37059/velky_kodak_cx7430_zezadu.jpg

I preferred a camera which have not a large display secreen because it's not good for battery ;)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0001DA0CO.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg


And by the way, this camera can use "Ni-Mh" rechargeable batteries :)

[Wilco]

Well I'm searching around for a digital camera that can really deliver but have a reasonably low price.

So far I've been looking at Kodaks, Canons seem a bit pricey and I'm trying to find the best deal on one and some are there but I could use some help with people who have a nice digital camera and that didn't burn a hole in their pocket.

I want to try to keep the price below 230, what do you guys think?

[Mark Sman]

Use the features search here to narrow down what you want.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare.asp

[CG51]

I have a HP M305 purchased during the summer and it is fine for me. 3.2 mp and the operation and menu is simple. got is for $120.00. Unless you do alot of cropping and blowing up of photos, 3.2MP is fine.

http://www.clubic.com/photo/00112509.jpg

http://www.akam.no/images/hp/digitalkamera/photosmart_m307/hp_photosmart_m307_2.jpg

[scrybe]

You get what you pay for. Get a Canon.

Here are some good reviews:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/hardware_reviews.html

[Wilco]

I did find the Canon Powershot A520 for 165 and it looks like a real nice deal, I might go ahead and pick that up.

[Bryson C]

I have a HP M305 purchased during the summer and it is fine for me. 3.2 mp and the operation and menu is simple. got is for $120.00. Unless you do alot of cropping and blowing up of photos, 3.2MP is fine.

http://www.clubic.com/photo/00112509.jpg

http://www.akam.no/images/hp/digitalkamera/photosmart_m307/hp_photosmart_m307_2.jpg



I have an HP M307, I got it a year ago, and have been very happy with it. It works very well, I have never had a problem with it and it takes beautiful pictures.

[Digital Marine]

Olympus C-480 is a good one.

[scrybe]

Wilco, you will not be dissapointed with this camera:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7030116&type=product&id=1099394930588

I have the 4mb version. They take very good pics, are very easy to use, but have numerous features you can use if you are feeling adventerous. Pick up a 1gb SD card for it and you'll be able to hold a few hundred super hi-res pictures on it or a few minutes of pretty good video.

[DarkCypher]

I did find the Canon Powershot A520 for 165 and it looks like a real nice deal, I might go ahead and pick that up.
The A520 is the exact same one I have and it's perfect for a novice.

[Kekkonen]

I have a HP M305 purchased during the summer and it is fine for me. 3.2 mp and the operation and menu is simple. got is for $120.00. Unless you do alot of cropping and blowing up of photos, 3.2MP is fine.

http://www.clubic.com/photo/00112509.jpg

http://www.akam.no/images/hp/digitalkamera/photosmart_m307/hp_photosmart_m307_2.jpg

I have an Olympus camera myself and it should be pointed out that the picture turns out very soft compared to a lots of other (known) brands. If you sharpen your pictures with Photoshop or some other similar program you will notice that you can see more details. This is a good reason to not buy Olympus.

The best thing you can do if you want a new digital camera is to use Google and seach for the camera's name + gallery or "test images". Don't buy one before you have seen fullsized test images taken from various distances and so forth and don't get stuck on the amount of MP's either, the lense is far more important than the amount of pixels when it comes to the picture quality. No-name brands have ****ty lenses and it's visible in the photos they take.

[Mark Sman]

True, quality glass is brutal important.

[molly747]

I have a Sony Cybershot DSC-T1, and I love it. It's small and extremely easy to use.

http://www.rueducommerce.fr/numerique/images/produits/info/large/SONY-T1.jpg

[Wilco]

I've checked out some galleries on the A520 and it looks dead sexy especially for the price.

[Kekkonen]

I have a Sony Cybershot DSC-T1, and I love it. It's small and extremely easy to use.

http://www.rueducommerce.fr/numerique/images/produits/info/large/SONY-T1.jpg

And surprisingly it takes good photos as well despite the small size of the lens. I guess it doesn't have to take too long before mobile phones can get decent cameras as well.

[scrybe]

That Sony has a Zeiss(sp?) lense. When I got my camera it was between that Sony and a Canon, but I read online the Canons took slightly better pictures and the memory cards were way cheaper.

[Ledanek]

So my cousin getting married this Jan 30---2 days for now, and I just happen to borrow a co-worker's Nikon SB-800, which she also doesn't really know how to use.

So I'm looking for some crash course tips on how to use this baby with my Nikon D3000....I'm trying to keep a *KISS-attitude about this, since I'm more likely to double duty as videographer also....so barely anytime to compose shots. Thankfully they have a Pro-Photographer for that....*whew!*

So if you have any tips, please fire away.
as always: Advance thanks





*Keep it simple stupid

[commanding]

So my cousin getting married this Jan 30---2 days for now, and I just happen to borrow a co-worker's Nikon SB-800, which she also doesn't really know how to use.

So I'm looking for some crash course tips on how to use this baby with my Nikon D3000....I'm trying to keep a *KISS-attitude about this, since I'm more likely to double duty as videographer also....so barely anytime to compose shots. Thankfully they have a Pro-Photographer for that....*whew!*

So if you have any tips, please fire away.
as always: Advance thanks





*Keep it simple stupid

I have the nikon SB600 which I used on my Nikon D80 camera and screwed up every shot I took with it at a once in a lifetime event.....the shots with the built in pop up flash worked great. all the shots with the attached flash, came out horrible, blurred, as if the camera had slowed down the shutter speed.
Ruined all the shots...so my advice is to do some complete shoots before hand, and review the results. Also at the big event take two cameras if possible and shoot everything with 2 sep. cameras.
Never do an important shoot with new unproven equipment. Even a cheap point and shoot camera would have saved my butt on that one.

[Niels]

Bounce the flash off the ceiling or floor if you can, or make/get a bounce card. Direct flash is usually a bad idea.

[Shakey]

Check out youtube. They've got several tutorials on the SB800 --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0VB2z6pqqU

[PALADIN]

Make a cheap bounce card from index cards. Attach to flash with rubber bands.
Or you can be cool and buy this nifty, $50 one.

http://www.abetterbouncecard.com/

[Ledanek]

thanks everyone

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4369/432088486083e6265f98b.th.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/432088486083e6265f98b.jpg/)
0.167 sec (1/6)
Aperture: f/5.0
Focal Length: 150 mm
Focal Length: 151.0 mm
ISO Speed: 400
Exposure Bias: 0 EV
Flash: On, Return detected

slideshow (http://www.flickr.com/photos/53161868@N00/sets/72157623199368999/show/)

[DevilDocsDad]

I need to replace a compact digital camera for my son in country. Any recommendations for Afghanistan's desert conditions? Replacing a Pentax Optio T-20...

If anyone has a recommendation based on experience, I like to hear about it.

[StuRat]

I have no operational experience with this camera, but I can recommend a Panasonic DMC-FT1 (FT2 is out now I believe)

It's a waterproof, shockproof, dust/sand proof camera. 12megapixel and reasonably cheap. Takes good video too. The only problem with being in a sandy environment is the screen on the back isn't inset, so if it's sitting in his pocket or whatever, it's likely to get scratched, You can get screen protectors for it though.

[gilgoul]

Go for the panasonic FT1-TS1, really good battery endurance, film in AVCHD lite, but mainly, can keep a beating, be dropped in 10ft of water and still capture images and videos.
I bought one to my wife about 4 month ago, and I'm still surprised at the quality and fun factor of this little piece of gear.
It survived without a glitch last training (12 days of fun in the desert, including a LOT of ****e position, falls and other gear killing movements, and didn't even notice the crazy sand storm that left several other peice of gear in bad shape)

And I don't work at Panasonic :)

(but if they read that and want to send me one for free, they know how to contact me )

[BMF_EOD]

We have been using the Olympus "tough" 8000 series at our unit in operations throughout Europe, Iraq, Africa and Afghanistan. The camera takes decent photos and is nearly indestructible with excellent battery life and good low light. I do however hate that it uses proprietary Olympus storage cards and Olympus USB cords. I would rather it take standard SD cards and a standard mini USB connector. The Panasonic F1-TS1 looks equally well built but I have no experience with it.

[Nickchios]

A very nice new model from Casio is coming...

http://www.exilim.eu/euro/exilimg/exg1/

107484

[kraut783]

Whatever you pick...go with one that takes AA batteries. Easier to find batteries than it is to find a reliable power source on U.S. current.

[Waterman]

Have had good reports on the Olympus 1050SW and Canon D10 cameras. Both have held up well in the dusty conditions, but a decent protective case is needed for whatever you are going to send over.

[Number34]

Go for the panasonic FT1-TS1, really good battery endurance, film in AVCHD lite, but mainly, can keep a beating, be dropped in 10ft of water and still capture images and videos.
I bought one to my wife about 4 month ago, and I'm still surprised at the quality and fun factor of this little piece of gear.
It survived without a glitch last training (12 days of fun in the desert, including a LOT of ****e position, falls and other gear killing movements, and didn't even notice the crazy sand storm that left several other peice of gear in bad shape)

And I don't work at Panasonic :)

(but if they read that and want to send me one for free, they know how to contact me )

Don't get anything that films in AVCHD. it has compatibility issues with most programs

[StuRat]

Whatever you pick...go with one that takes AA batteries. Easier to find batteries than it is to find a reliable power source on U.S. current.

The Panasonic FT1 has a custom battery and comes with it's own charging dock thing.


Don't get anything that films in AVCHD. it has compatibility issues with most programs

The FT1 can film in AVCHD and Mpg, you just switch over in the settings.

[dave81]

Any $100 compact digital camera will do. I went to Iraq twice with the cheapest Samsung camera I could find ($89 in 2003) and the only real damage to it was that the "up" and "right" function on the cursor button gave up on me between my first and second deployments. It still took pictures, though. The most important thing to send with the camera would be a good supply of Energizer lithium batteries (in the blue package). They're pricey but worth it, because they last for months and in my experience, PXs in the war zone usually sell out of them as soon as they come in.

[DevilDocsDad]

Thanks for the input, guys! This gives me a few things to consider and research.

Talked to the Doc early this morning. He has been taking pics for the past week without the LCD, hoping that the auto-focus is functioning. I guess it does not cost anything but SD memory to try. I'm sending out a package this week with a couple 800 speed single use cameras to use until I figure out which digital to buy.

I appreciate the feedback on this subject, thought it would be a good new thread for this Militaryphotos.net equipment forum.

[Steelersfan413]

Hey guys, I'm sure there are quite a few photography enthusiasts that could help.

I'm looking for a Digital SLR, (mostly for work), but also for fun, so I'd like it to be semi-rugged. I'll be taking it camping and hiking, and then for other small things at school and whatnot.

I'm not too knowledgeable of cameras, but I've been using Nikon D80s at school and another Nikon, (unknown model, but very old), and I love the way they operate and the quality of the pictures.

If I could just get some input, suggestions, recommendations, etc., that would be awesome.

I'm really liking the Nikon D3000 so far. My budget is around $600 at the most.

Thanks in advance.

[Niels]

A (second-hand) D80 since you are already familiar and pleased with it.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

If you want rugged don't go digital. Go film.

But for 600 bucks no camera is going to be that rugged. But generally speaking alll camera's in that price range are generally of the same quality. Canon cameras have more accessories and 3rd party accessories though

[Eoin666]

I use Nikon, but you wouldn't go wrong with Canon either.

If you're using it camping etc, maybe consider a cheaper body such as a D40X or as you say the D3000 or even second hand older bodies D50, D70 or the D80 you've been using etc, a zoom and good wide angle, but as always that depends on what exactly you want to photo.

One of the best camera sites on the web
http://www.kenrockwell.com/index.htm

[Steelersfan413]

Most of these start in the upper $500s, and come with very little. I found a great deal on a D3000 with a 1 year manufacturer's warranty, two tripods, camera bag, flash, 3 lenses, 8GB memory stick, and some other little BS items.

Thoughts?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110473479025&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[alexishere2007]

wait for the sony NEX-5 lol

[HK in AK]

I still love my Nikon D60.

[kecemplunglagi]

Hi Steelerfans,

That eBay thing is - IMHO - a bit bogus. Those aren't 3 lenses, just 1 kit lens with 2 converters (of questionable quality). Tripods offered look flimsy as well. Same with the flash unit.

Since you're in the US, why don't you check reputable seller like B&H (http://www.bhphotovideo.com) or Adorama? They usually offer good quality cameras and lenses, and price is reasonable.

Nikon D-3000 is good choice for your budget, or Canon EOS Rebel XS. They're pretty much have similar price and performance.

As for semi-rugged, well I don't think USD 600 will give you semi-rugged camera. But it will make you love your camera and treat it dearly :)

PS: another option is prosumer camera, i.e. high-end point-and-shoot like Canon PowerShot G11. It can shoot RAW pictures, with IS, quite rugged, can be fitted with flash unit.

[Valkyries]

Cannon Rebels should be in that price range. the biggest thing to look at in the long term is the cost of the lenses, but a good CCD also helps.

[paulmessen]

Cannon Rebels should be in that price range. the biggest thing to look at in the long term is the cost of the lenses, but a good CCD also helps.

I've had nothing but good experiences with the Rebels, I have an XTi, and am thinking about upgrading to the T2i, with is not to far out of your price range, and has 18mp, and a full 1020p HD video camera built in.

[Valkyries]

, and has 18mp, and a full 1080p HD video camera built in.

fixed

I've only used an EOS-1DS mark 3 so I cant really comment on the rebels quality

[Steelersfan413]

I've had nothing but good experiences with the Rebels, I have an XTi, and am thinking about upgrading to the T2i, with is not to far out of your price range, and has 18mp, and a full 1020p HD video camera built in.

Wow! This is looking very appealing right now... Thank you for that. I think I am going to start considering a Canon.

What can you owners tell me about the lenses that come with the cameras of each brand, (Nikon & Canon)? Most of them are 18-55mm right? I assume quality and capabilities are all pretty equal?

[Eoin666]

The little Nikon 18-55mm is a great little lens which you wouldn't go wrong with, pin sharp.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/18-55mm-vr.htm

Canon EOS400 (rebel XTi to you in the US)
http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/rebel-xti.htm

[Murray]

My recommendation is to go with the Canon Rebel series. I personally have a XTi and love it. As for the durability issue, I have not had any problems yet with it and I am pretty rough with equipment (its kinda a common trait with firefighters). I have been to a live burn where a Canon (dunno the type) was used to actually take pictures inside the burning building and it came out fine and the pictures were fantastic. the only thing my buddy had to do was come back out every so often to let the camera cool down. But one thing you could also do is to get one with a warranty. Mine has a 4yr warranty for EVERYTHING from best buy so if anything breaks they will fix it.

[rgjbloke]

Nikon or Canon are both great camera's. I used to have a Nikon film camera kit until I got rid of it years ago when everything went digital and I just kept going using medium format. I had the opportunity last week to try out some Canon digital gear and I was impressed.

[bas]

Nikon or Canon are both great camera's.

+1 they are pretty much No 2 and No 1 in the market and for good reason. Unless you're going to try and make money from your camera you're not going to see much of a difference between the two brands. I have used a Canon 350D and currently have a 30D my next upgrade will be a 7D (no idea when). When buying DSLR cameras you also have to budget in the cost of lenses as a good lens will make a world of difference.

Personally if I was to choose between the two brands I would focus on the type of lenses they offer and what I can borrow from family / school / friends.

[Eoin666]

Personally if I was to choose between the two brands I would focus on the type of lenses they offer and what I can borrow from family / school / friends.

Personally that was my only reason for going Nikon as opposed to considering Canon, family, then inherited a lot of stuff, lenses, flash gun etc off the father in law when he wanted to sell off all his bits

[Wahnsinn]

If you want rugged don't go digital. Go film.

But for 600 bucks no camera is going to be that rugged. But generally speaking alll camera's in that price range are generally of the same quality. Canon cameras have more accessories and 3rd party accessories though

What tosh. I have a D3000 and it has survived numerous drops, -20 degrees celcius to 15 in a matter of minutes and being submerged twice with barely a scratch. Great little camera for the price. If you could stretch your budget a little further the D5000 would be a little better as you can fold the LCD away for protection and has a lot of the D90 (an excellent camera) components for a fraction of the price.

I'd personally get a Nikon as they feel better in my hands and I find them easier to operate but try numerous bodies first hand before you buy and you'll soon get a feel for the ergonomics. I really can't stress how important it is to try them in a shop to get a feel for where important controls are located and how it sits in your hands as the more comfortable you are with the camera the better your shots will be.

[iSam]

If you want rugged don't go digital. Go film.

X2 film cameras FTW

[Steelersfan413]

Thanks for all the info everyone. But how easy is it to get film on to a computer? Can someone explain the process of film development?

[Sarig]

Pretty much any camera will take good photos. For somewhat cheap rugged and weatherproofed, Pentax K7 is the best alternative. They have weather sealed kit lenses, which basically no-one else has. A bit outside your budget though, but it's the cheapest "outdoors" DSLR you can get, I think.

[Breakfast in Vegas]

Thanks for all the info everyone. But how easy is it to get film on to a computer? Can someone explain the process of film development?Forget film unless you have lots of time for processing etc.

There are undeniable artistic aspects to film that are interesting, however digital is much more practical and flexible.

Or you can do both. Film cameras are cheap, however the cost of film itself plus darkroom materials etc. add up. If you send away your film for processing, you are missing the point of film vs. digital entirely and might as well stick to digital.

[Steelersfan413]

Forget film unless you have lots of time for processing etc.

There are undeniable artistic aspects to film that are interesting, however digital is much more practical and flexible.

Or you can do both. Film cameras are cheap, however the cost of film itself plus darkroom materials etc. add up. If you send away your film for processing, you are missing the point of film vs. digital entirely and might as well stick to digital.


Okay, thanks for that. That will be very helpful in my decision making.

And do most of these digital cameras require software to transfer pictures to the computer, or is it just click and drag from the camera/memory stick to the computer?

[Supplanter]

The best piece of advise in here is to go to a store and hold the cameras you're deciding between. One of the cameras I was thinking about was the Sony A330 but after holding it for about 5 minutes in-store my hand was sore, it just didn't fit right.


And do most of these digital cameras require software to transfer pictures to the computer, or is it just click and drag from the camera/memory stick to the computer?

Depends on your settings, if you take raw pics you need software to view them or to convert them to something easily viewable like jpg, png, tiff etc. To transfer from the camera you most likely need to use the included software or with a card reader you can move all the files to your computer without software.

[Jass]

Nikon D90 with 18/200 is an awesome combination, Its not to expensive and makes great photos.
This what I bought to start my photograph course. Later I'm going to go bigger/better off course.
Before that one I had an EOS 450D witch ain't a bad camera. good for starters.

It depends on your budget and expectations.

[Breakfast in Vegas]

Nikon D90 with 18/200 is an awesome combination, Its not to expensive and makes great photos.
This what I bought to start my photograph course. Later I'm going to go bigger/better off course.
Before that one I had an EOS 450D witch ain't a bad camera. good for starters.

It depends on your budget and expectations.I have the 450D and it works well. I can emphasize the importance of lenses however.

The best cheap lens I've ever run into is the 50mm 1.8 for Canon. Costs $100 and is great, especially for profiles as it is a relatively narrow image field prime (no zoom).

Most of my friends have gone Nikon however. Apparently Nikon is the Apple of DSLRs in terms of coolness factor.

[Karaahmetoglu]

This will be my first DSLR.

I am really stuck I have narrowed it down to these 2 and I cannot choose one between the two.

The Canon's Video capabilities are tempting, but apparently the Sensor is bigger (for less megapixels on the D90). I am also going to buy new lenses for more zoom, so that would be a factor in purchasing a camera, the D90 comes with a 18-105mm lens while the T2i comes with a 18-55mm lense however the 55-250mm lense (I do not know how well this lense is) is relatively cheap.


D90 18-105mm VR| lense
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/nikon-d90-12-3mp-digital-slr-camera-with-18-105mm-vr-lens-kit/10110993.aspx?path=d15f61f52c856fec2754e7d91f20d17cen02

D90 with 18-55mm VR + 55-200mm VR Lense
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/-/b9000028.aspx?path=16510ce3a8d7d0648e19799abfc33902en02

Canon T2i (550D) with 18-55mm IS lens kit
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-eos-rebel-t2i-18-0mp-dslr-camera-with-18-55mm-is-lens-kit-t2i/10139993.aspx?path=9ad4f2837bda7e46de2868c84f59541ben02

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Canon EF-S 55-250mm Lens
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/canon-ef-s-55-250mm-f-4-5-6-is-lens/10093802.aspx?path=fb2288771000e5a5974c88a65c37bcf5en02

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

It's a still camera so why get something with video?

Get a 450D. You are not going to take better photos with a 550D then what you will with a 450D. So get a 450D which are pretty cheap now. And use the money saved to by decent glass. don't buy EF-S mount lenses. They are ****. If you end up upgrading to a full frame camera they will not work on a full frame camera. Hence waste of money.

Pixel count generally means **** on a 35mm DSLR. Generally speaking from 8mp up you will not notice the difference.

As for zooms. Unless you get L series glass. Zooms are ****. You get lens distortion. There is moving parts which can break. Go for primes. Prime lenses offer the best image quality and are generally cheaper. Of course you need a decent zoom. But to get a good one. You will be spending about 4 grand on one.

[wildcat]

It's a still camera so why get something with video?

Get a 450D. You are not going to take better photos with a 550D then what you will with a 450D. So get a 450D which are pretty cheap now. And use the money saved to by decent glass. don't buy EF-S mount lenses. They are ****. If you end up upgrading to a full frame camera they will not work on a full frame camera. Hence waste of money.

Pixel count generally means **** on a 35mm DSLR. Generally speaking from 8mp up you will not notice the difference.

As for zooms. Unless you get L series glass. Zooms are ****. You get lens distortion. There is moving parts which can break. Go for primes. Prime lenses offer the best image quality and are generally cheaper. Of course you need a decent zoom. But to get a good one. You will be spending about 4 grand on one.

X2 on what min says, a good camera with awesome lens is better than an amazing camera with a ****ty lens. Always get EF for canons, don't bother with the EF-S.

[Ghostwolf]

As for zooms. Unless you get L series glass. Zooms are ****. You get lens distortion. There is moving parts which can break. Go for primes. Prime lenses offer the best image quality and are generally cheaper. Of course you need a decent zoom. But to get a good one. You will be spending about 4 grand on one.

Exactly what I was thinking when I purchase my 50D. I was saving my money for the 24-70mm F2.8L lens as standard, but it was out of stock so I purchased the 17-40mm F4L, and then I bought the 70-200mm F4L as telephoto lens. I want the best class of lenses so when I switch the camera body I don't have to worry about buying a whole new set of lenses.

[Waterman]

I have had the T1i (500d) for a while now, and have been very happy with it. The video on the T2i is even better, as is the sensor (supposedly the same one as on the 7d). I haven't used the 18-55mm that came with it, instead using the Canon 10-22mm & Canon 75-300mm lenses. I agree with the idea that a good lens on a mid range body is better than and crappy lens on a great body. My vote would be for the Canon.....just skip the kit, and get a better lens.

[EMC Andy]

don't buy EF-S mount lenses. They are ****.


Not all EF-S lenses are bad. I love my 10-22. the colors are fantastic and the distortion is minimal.
I'm not planning to upgrade to full frame and if I ever will I would keep my 50D as a second body.

I agree with the zooms. The 70-200L's are hard to beat.
i got a 2.8L and it's great!

[Hennie the Great]

If you want a cheap plastic camera, go for Canon. If you want quality, go for Nikon!

[ando]

Basically get an L series or if you go for sigma Hsm (dg) (so compat with full frame should you upgrade),

70-200 2.8's in either are smashing lenses as others have said.

[AgentX]

Do you even need a DSLR? Panasonic and Olympus have good micro-four-thirds and now Sony has released NEX, an awesome compact camera that is on par with most DSLR systems in quality.

[danielc]

Get the Nikon D90 with the 18-55 and 55-200 VR lenses. It gives you all the range you need, and more. The more megapixels on the Canon means nothing, its just a marketing ploy to fool the general public. Also, Nikon makes the best lenses in the business, and shooting video on these cameras is not really a practical thing to do.

[Ledanek]

if you want to take pictures....Nikon
if you want videos.....Canon.....Canon had a very long head start in the video department.

I'm not a professional photographer. Let's get that out of the way. Hence I only settled with a Nikon D3000.
It doesn't even have a LCD Live Viewfinder...the D3000, you'll have to go old school and look thru the viewfinder....makes you concentrate on your framing shot. The "HUD" inside in there is straight to the point.

Now, it's really annoying to see another D90 owner and only use 15% on what it can truly do. I know about 6 at work who have it, for yrs now, and still show kid birthday pictures and still have the kit lens on it.
It's a D90.... put some freaking glass lens on it already.

Canon bothered me, in the D3000 price range when it came to the body...very plastic, like my D3000 and the lens availability was smaller to my D3000.

If you're getting a camera w/ video bcoz you want to chase your baby run around, get a point and shoot. Your baby bag will appreciate the little space it will take.

If you're getting a camera w/ video bcoz your chasing a surfer, a football player, a sexy beach volleyball player, get a Canon T2i or a D90 w/ a proper GLASS lens...

to sum, lens makes a great shot, available.

[Vince S]

I bought a D90 and I've used the video mode quite alot lately. Image are super sharp with my 50mm and since I'm filming sports with it I like that I can blur-in and blur-out of the rider more easily that with a video camera. Also quality video cams like an HVX or DVX cost wayyyyyyyyyy more than an Nikon or Canon

[Niels]

Also, Nikon makes the best lenses in the business, and shooting video on these cameras is not really a practical thing to do.
http://www.petapixel.com/2010/04/09/house-season-finale-filmed-entirely-with-canon-5d-mark-ii/

If you want a cheap plastic camera, go for Canon. If you want quality, go for Nikon!
They have steel skeletons, just like Nikon.
http://gizmodo.com/5427517/canon-dslr-suffers-3000+foot-fall-camera-and-lens-still-work


Canon bothered me, in the D3000 price range when it came to the body...very plastic, like my D3000 and the lens availability was smaller to my D3000.
This sentence makes no sense.

GLASS lens....
As opposed to lenses made of wood.

[Wahnsinn]

http://www.petapixel.com/2010/04/09/house-season-finale-filmed-entirely-with-canon-5d-mark-ii/

They have steel skeletons, just like Nikon.
http://gizmodo.com/5427517/canon-dslr-suffers-3000+foot-fall-camera-and-lens-still-work

This sentence makes no sense.

As opposed to lenses made of wood.

To be honest, you cannot say Canon is better than Nikon or vice versa. They both produce great gear. I went down the Nikon line as they feel best in my hands but some people will suit a Canon more.

@the OP, try both bodies in a shop before you buy. The specs may look good but if it is uncomfortable in your hands then it isn't worth it. I would go with the D90 as it is a great camera but I'm sure the Canon would serve you just as well.

@Min, you do not need to spend four grand to get a decent zoom. Unless you are a professional the distortion on most Nikon or Canon lens will be barely noticeable in the mid ranges and even at the extremes it won't be ruining any of your shots. I can barely notice anything wrong with with my 18-200mm and your average layman on the street who knows nothing about DSLR's wouldn't either.

[PaulClift]

My mother has the 18-105vr on a D80. I don't know much about Canon lenses but I can tell you that the 18-105 is pretty decent. That and a 70-300 would pretty much cover your needs I reckon.

[PaulClift]

Basically get an L series or if you go for sigma Hsm (dg) (so compat with full frame should you upgrade),

70-200 2.8's in either are smashing lenses as others have said.

A 2.8 70-200 Nikon is damn expensive for a 1st DSLR purchase though. Sigma do their version which is a lot cheaper but you need to make sure you've got a decent copy.

[Dispatcher]

I like vs. threads. M16 > AK47, by the way.

Get whichever camera and lens combo suits you best/feels the best in your hands. Have fun with it. Then, if you decide that photograpy is your gift to mankind, you can upgrade to proffesional lenses and such. Dont forget to watermark your pix. Seriously; get some feeling for it, before selling a kidney to get a lens/body..;)

[Niels]

To be honest, you cannot say Canon is better than Nikon or vice versa.
Which I didn't.

Also:
http://i50.tinypic.com/675u9k.jpg

[Breakfast in Vegas]

A Canon vs. Nikon comparison will end inconclusively, although Nikon users tend to be more aggressive on this issue. Nikon is the Mac of cameras.

I've got a Canon 450D and am totally satisfied, even if I want to upgrade to full format sometime fairly soon.

I tend to agree with Min on lenses.

Having experimented with many low- to mid-range lenses in terms of cost, I ended up using only primes, particularly the 50mm which is the best bang for your buck in terms of image quality. It does limit the range of pictures you can take, but I'm a stickler from sharpness and most zooms.. aside from the hyper-expensive ones... do make sacrifices in terms of sharpness.

Go with your gut feeling.

[SpartanML]

Whatever camera you wind up getting I recommend looking in to getting some camera armor for it. I purchased armor for my XTi in 2008 before I went to Europe again and it was definitely a great investment. Here is the link. (http://www.cameraarmor.com/) It can take a little getting used to but it is much more comfy for me in the long run and it fits the cameras perfectly.

[Death.]

T2i, hands down. I love mine.

If you actually plan on using the video mode, the D90 can't really compare: the t2i can do 30FPS 1080P videos, and 60FPS 720p videos and has a microphone jack for stereo audio recording. Same sensor as the 7D, too. It's a great camera for the price.

[Ledanek]

http://www.petapixel.com/2010/04/09/house-season-finale-filmed-entirely-with-canon-5d-mark-ii/

They have steel skeletons, just like Nikon.
http://gizmodo.com/5427517/canon-dslr-suffers-3000+foot-fall-camera-and-lens-still-work

This sentence makes no sense.

As opposed to lenses made of wood.


sorry, to clear, my budget was under $500...Canon didn't have one that "felt" good in my hands, in that price range, so it's very subjective. Hence, go to the stores and try it out.
As far as the wood lens, a friend w/ D7 picked up a Tamron lens that had non-glass lens...he goes online, and find other complaints about it.
It turns out to be some poly-something. Friend eBayed it and now just use NIKKOR lenses.
Hope that clears everything

[Karaahmetoglu]

I have settled on the D90.

Now I do not know which lens to buy for it though?

I will be mostly taking photos of Planes taking off from the runway, and of landscapes, and plants up close. Which lenses under $400 dollars will suit me the best (I do know I have to buy more then one for all of these tasks)

My complete budget (sans tax) I want to stay under $1300 CAD

[daily666]

WTF? Is this some Ak-47 vs M-16 thread?

Take the cheapest DSLR money can buy and get the best lenses. Camera body doesn't mean ****. Don't care about pixel count, don't care about other gizmos.

One thing that's better with Canon is that all the EOS lenses fit while you have to learn a bit about the compatibility of Nikon lenses. I'm myself a Canon shooter but most of my friends use Nikon cameras and are quite happy with them.

You want a good start, try an EOS 1000D and head for some cheap prime lenses like 50mm f/1.8, 35mm f/2.0. The results will be far better than a much more expensive 50D with a crappy kit zoom.

[danielc]

I have settled on the D90.

Now I do not know which lens to buy for it though?

I will be mostly taking photos of Planes taking off from the runway, and of landscapes, and plants up close. Which lenses under $400 dollars will suit me the best (I do know I have to buy more then one for all of these tasks)

My complete budget (sans tax) I want to stay under $1300 CAD

Good choice. The 55-200 lenses is the one you want for those type of shots, while staying within your budget.

[PaulClift]

Kit 18-55 will do for landscapes. Not amazing, but not crap either.

Either 55-200 or maybe something upto 300 for your aircraft shots.

Get a f1.8 50mm prime if you fancy some portraits. Best value lens ever. On my S5 is just outstanding.

[Vince S]

55-200 sucks. I had one and sold it when I had a D60. I got my D90 with a 18-105 and it's good lens for the money

Couldn't agree more on the 50, one of my favorite lens only second to my 24mm f2.8

[Ledanek]

This is what I got: Nikon 55-200mm f/4-5.6G ED IF AF-S DX VR (http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-55-200mm-VR-Vibration-Reduction/dp/B000O161X0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1274923432&sr=1-1)
for my Picture Taken Thread (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?93412-Post-a-photo-you-have-taken&p=4961463&viewfull=1#post4961463)

there's a $199 version....a lot of ppl said not to get it...that's available at BB and it doesn't come with VR.
hope that helps

[Supplanter]

If you are buying from BestBuy here's the link to their price guarantee. I saved $135 off their price when I bought my camera :)
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/help/what-is-your-lowest-price-guarantee/hc1001.aspx?path=27eeec1b59d42df5dfc298ab6993d9dfen06&HelpTitleId=HC1001

[Wahnsinn]

I've got a Canon 450D and am totally satisfied, even if I want to upgrade to full format sometime fairly soon.

I tend to agree with Min on lenses.

Having experimented with many low- to mid-range lenses in terms of cost, I ended up using only primes, particularly the 50mm which is the best bang for your buck in terms of image quality. It does limit the range of pictures you can take, but I'm a stickler from sharpness and most zooms.. aside from the hyper-expensive ones... do make sacrifices in terms of sharpness.

Go with your gut feeling.

Have to agree about the 50mm prime. Awesome lens, bit of a bargain too. Don't really agree with the hyper-expensive lens argument. If you buy third party lens, they can be dire but a genuine Nikon or Canon zoom lens (even in the £200 range) won't sacrafice quality so much that the image isn't sharp enough for most uses. The sharpness is reduced but I wouldn't say it is so noticeable that it detracts from a good image. On a slight tangent, I find my 85mm Macro lens too sharp for portraiture even though many people swear it can be used effectively for it.

[Karaahmetoglu]

So I was thinking about either getting a Canon 7D or Nikon D7000. However going through my house during construction I found my Father's old '85 Minolta Maxxum 7000, he has the 28-85mm kit lens, and the beercan 70-200mm f/4 the first lens is nothing special but the latter is not a bad lens.

Among the photographs I would like to take the most demanding would be the night time city scape shots of Turkish cities . Now I would like to have a full frame (5D MII, or D700) however these are unfortunately currently out of my budget, now they have been on the market for some time and may be due for revised models. Since this is my first DSLR, luckily I found these awesome lenses in my house not being used, and since I do not know if photography is my cup of tea yet, I do not want to spend big money on it to only not like it later. So what I was thinking about doing is getting a Sony Alpha 390 now, use it for a while see if I am good at photography, DO NOT BUY ANY LENSES for the Sony use the Kit lens, and the two old Minolta lenses, and buy the other things that are needed for photography such as a memory card tripod etc which can be used for the other camera as well, and then when my finances, and skill allow it get a full frame camera. What do you guys think?

[Niels]

1. Buy film
2. Insert in Minolta
3. ???
4. FF and better long exposures

[Karaahmetoglu]

I like the longer exposure too, but the minolta's shutter button broke, still works but it is very annoying. Plus I want the advantages of digital, I want to be able to view them immediately, for a first timer film is difficult because you do not know how the picture turned out till you have it developed, whereas on digital I can look at the screen, check if exposure white balance are correct etc, and keep it, or delete it and adjust and shot, this I cannot do with the Minolta film camera.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

If you already have a good Minolta lens that is compatible then buy a Sony. If it's not then go for a Nikon or Canon.

BUT

If you do find that you like photography and want to invest in more **** your options will become limited compared to the offerings for Canon and Nikon. If you can afford a 7D you should be able to afford a 5D. A new 5D version will be released next year so they will becoming down in price especially after christmas.

Pm me questions if you like. Photography is what I do

http://www.allan-duncan-photography.com/

[IraGlacialis]

If you do find that you like photography and want to invest in more **** your options will become limited compared to the offerings for Canon and Nikon. If you can afford a 7D you should be able to afford a 5D. A new 5D version will be released next year so they will becoming down in price especially after christmas.
It would depend. If you are going to be shooting a lot of shots dealing with action (wildlife and sports namely) I'd go with a 7D. But if you are going to do nothing but landscape, the full-frame nature of the 5DmkII would do you well.
In any case, a whole world of lenses will be open to you with either Canon or Nikon.

[Karaahmetoglu]

Thanks for your help. I mostly want to take pictures of, wide angle pictures of landscape and cities.

So are you guys suggesting I skip the Sony, and go for the D700, or 5D Mark ii right away?

If I went with the D700 which wide angle lens would you guys suggest for it?

With the 1.5X crop factor bodies I knew exactly which lens to get, but with the full frame I do not know.

[Karaahmetoglu]

If possible f/2.8 and under $700.