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LibertyUnites
08-21-2005, 08:08 PM
Does anyone have a downloadable/printable copy of the 25 Meter paper qualification targets the Army uses to qualify soldiers on the M16? I'm not talking about the 25m zeroing target btw.

LibertyUnites
08-21-2005, 09:15 PM
i definitely meant to post this in the equipment forum, please move it

American Patriot
08-21-2005, 09:20 PM
oops :oops:

molsen
08-21-2005, 09:39 PM
the Army doesn't qualify at 25 mtrs, so why would they have 25 mtr "Qualification" targets? The only targets I've seen ARE the 25 mtr BZO targets.

Chuck6d
08-21-2005, 10:11 PM
Actually there is....It's called the Alternate C qualification. The shooter engages 2 target papers. The target paper have 10 targets on each with the targets printed at various ranges. The shooter must put 2 rounds in each printed target on the paper. 20 rounds on the one target paper supported (sandbags). 20 rounds unsupported ****e on the other target paper. If you google Aternate C rifle qualification you should be able to find info and pics of it.

digrar
08-21-2005, 10:29 PM
moved

molsen
08-21-2005, 11:13 PM
Actually there is....It's called the Alternate C qualification. The shooter engages 2 target papers. The target paper have 10 targets on each with the targets printed at various ranges. The shooter must put 2 rounds in each printed target on the paper. 20 rounds on the one target paper supported (sandbags). 20 rounds unsupported ****e on the other target paper. If you google Aternate C rifle qualification you should be able to find info and pics of it.
I stand corrected. That is something I did not know. Thanks for the info.

scrybe
08-22-2005, 12:59 AM
I have pics I took while doing BRM but not the actual target:

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/1286/downrange3ud.jpg

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/5876/targetzoom0ju.jpg

LibertyUnites
08-22-2005, 01:45 PM
thats exactly it, thanks for the info, i didnt know they were called alternate C

TacoDelRio
08-22-2005, 07:40 PM
I've got some for the M16A1, might be able to scan them for you.

The army doesn't qual at 25m, however, they have zero targets that are set at 25m, but since the sillhouette is so small on the paper, it makes it appear to be at 300m. Basically, it looks further away than it is.

You need them for A1's or A2's?

Chuck6d
08-22-2005, 07:55 PM
I've got some for the M16A1, might be able to scan them for you.

The army doesn't qual at 25m, however, they have zero targets that are set at 25m, but since the sillhouette is so small on the paper, it makes it appear to be at 300m. Basically, it looks further away than it is.

You need them for A1's or A2's?

read post above

LibertyUnites
08-22-2005, 08:02 PM
what exactly do you have for the A1s? The 25meter zeroing target? thats not that I need, the Army DOES qualify at 25m as Chuck6d mentioned and thats what I'm looking for. I need exactly what appears in Scrybe's pictures. I did a search for it using Google and have so far turned up only one site, which wants me to buy them. I will if I have to, but if someone has it already for free then i'd obviously prefer to go that route. :P

TacoDelRio
08-22-2005, 08:06 PM
what exactly do you have for the A1s? The 25meter zeroing target? thats not that I need, the Army DOES qualify at 25m as Chuck6d mentioned and thats what I'm looking for. I need exactly what appears in Scrybe's pictures. I did a search for it using Google and have so far turned up only one site, which wants me to buy them. I will if I have to, but if someone has it already for free then i'd obviously prefer to go that route. :P

My "bad".

Yep, they're zero targets. And despite reading Chuck's post, I still wrote the Army doesn't qual at 25m. Guess I never did that close.

All else I can think of are CD's with targets on em'.

Durandal
08-22-2005, 10:46 PM
I know this is not what you are looking for...here is the A2:
http://www.armystudyguide.com/m16/zero/images/25_meter_zero_target.GIF

Edit: I am looking for it, I thought I had one in the basement, but no joy. Trying to remember the last time I saw them. It was recent.

LibertyUnites
08-23-2005, 01:55 PM
well, actually.... that zeroing target is a 300m silohuette right? i guess I can just use that... might as well practice with the hardest distance right?

LibertyUnites
08-23-2005, 02:22 PM
so i guess, that being said, does anyone have this target in a full-scale printable version?

Jedburgh
08-23-2005, 02:34 PM
25 meter Scaled Silhouette Target (http://www.army.mil/usapa/eforms/pdf/A5790_RB.PDF)

wildbill542
08-23-2005, 06:35 PM
How much different is the 16A2 target from the M4 target?

LibertyUnites
08-23-2005, 11:00 PM
thanks jedburgh, you happen to know how I can print that out to full size? when i clicked print it printed the whole thing on one piece of paper and frankly, at 25m im not sure i could hit the 300m silohuette

Jedburgh
08-23-2005, 11:23 PM
You can't print that out at full size on a normal printer at home - full size is 17 1/4" x 23".

You can order'em here: Law Enforcement Targets (http://www.letargets.com/html/military.html). Look for NSN 6920-01-167-1398.

digrar
08-23-2005, 11:32 PM
Or cut and blow it up in a image editing program and print it out bit by bit.

BiZ
08-24-2005, 02:20 AM
In use...

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4170/1012ga.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

D.Sigurdsson
08-25-2005, 07:16 PM
http://files.bns-code.org/25m_target.jpg
http://files.bns-code.org/25m_target.mdi
This is in Microsoft Image something format crap
Just print it out on 4 pages and use some clear scotch tape :)