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Jack Mehoff
01-19-2004, 11:01 PM
Anybody here take any martial arts? If so, what's your style?

I've been taking Tae Kwon Do for the last 3 years and i'm going to test for my high brown belt this Friday. :D

ogukuo72
01-19-2004, 11:03 PM
I have a 2nd Kyu Black Belt in Aikido.

EvanL
01-19-2004, 11:11 PM
I did tae kwan do when i was younger. Got to red belt in three years then dropped out. Now i do grappling, boxing, kick boxing, and to some extent jiu-jitsu.

Apogee
01-19-2004, 11:23 PM
Been through the Army Combatives program (which is mostly Jui juitsu)

[AFSOC]
01-19-2004, 11:24 PM
Is there Judo in the army too?

EvanL
01-19-2004, 11:26 PM
]Is there Judo in the army too?Judo wouldnt make too much sense for the army. The basics of judo is push when pulled and pull when pushed. Stuff like jiu jitsu are better cus its more combative.

ibstolidude
01-19-2004, 11:27 PM
Archery.

:lol:

Skaman
01-19-2004, 11:34 PM
1 year of Hapkido trained by local ERT members at our unit every odd thursday night. Military submissions within combat scenarios as well.

koster
01-19-2004, 11:34 PM
LOL, Tae Kwon Do ? isn't that the one in which a 12 year old kids have like 4th degree black belts ? :lol:
I friend of mine got to a black belt in Tae Kwon Do in 3 months.

Truthsayer
01-19-2004, 11:40 PM
3 months? "Right"


Military version of Krav-Maga is the way to go.

Jack Mehoff
01-19-2004, 11:40 PM
LOL, Tae Kwon Do ? isn't that the one in which a 12 year old kids have like 4th degree black belts ? :lol:
I friend of mine got to a black belt in Tae Kwon Do in 3 months.

3 months? rofl

My sensei is a 55 year old Korean immigrant dude. Made it Korea

Skaman
01-19-2004, 11:41 PM
Anybody here take any martial arts? If so, what's your style?

I've been taking Tae Kwon Do for the last 3 years and i'm going to test for my high brown belt this Friday. :D

Good luck.

Jack Mehoff
01-19-2004, 11:42 PM
duci, are you being sarcastic?

Skaman
01-19-2004, 11:43 PM
duci, are you being sarcastic?


Nope, good luck.

koster
01-19-2004, 11:44 PM
yeah, in 3 months :lol:

NcDeuce
01-19-2004, 11:50 PM
Tae Kwon Do

I took it when I was younger as well. I got to gold or something and had to quit to make time for other sports.

I occasionally grapple with my dad just goofing around and he uses some of his Tae Kwon Do stuff on me. :(

[AFSOC]
01-20-2004, 12:36 AM
If you dont know what Tae Kwan Do is...your pretty ignorant. Thats for sure...

Tae Kwan Do is tough, the **** they do is insane....

My friend's parents that were in the Korean Army are all experienced Tae Kwan Do artists.

Beowulf
01-20-2004, 12:36 AM
]Is there Judo in the army too?
Did you get my PM? Or were you just too busy to respond?

StarvingStudent47
01-20-2004, 12:39 AM
I did Taekwondo through college, but I never really had the hip flexibility for the style. I'm now doing JKA Shotokan Karate, and it suits me beautifully. My first Shotokan rank test is later this month.

Good luck, Jack. I'm sure you'll do awesome.

koster
01-20-2004, 12:59 AM
]If you dont know what Tae Kwan Do is...your pretty ignorant. Thats for sure...

Tae Kwan Do is tough, the **** they do is insane....

My friend's parents that were in the Korean Army are all experienced Tae Kwan Do artists.
If you are talking to me, then, well, I happen to know what it is. I took it about 10 years ago, and quit it after 2 weeks, because I thought that kickboxing is a better choice for me.

BTW, good luck on the test Jack Mehoff.

Durandal
01-20-2004, 01:22 AM
Fear My Gun Foo

http://images.countingdown.com/images/countdowns/movies/548502/1011/2630806_main.jpg

ogukuo72
01-20-2004, 02:00 AM
I agree with some of the comments on TKD above.

I had to learn it during in my cadet days, and it was tough. I just don't have the kind of physical flexibility to do the kinds of gravity defying kicks the instructors expect me to do. I'm not sure how useful they are, in any case, for TKD sparring sessions almost always end up as grappling matches.

I also really hated all the set patterns that you have to learn. Till now, I can't understand the logic of learning all the patterns.

I hated it so much that I never kept up practice after I got my blue belt.

Flagg
01-20-2004, 03:16 AM
2 Years TKD, Instructor was a completely humourless South Korean Army vet.

1 Year periodic CQB training. Our current instructor is full-time NZ Police AOS, and like me, part-time NZDF. He's big into Aikido...so we learn mostly Aikido.

.....which in my opinion is much more efficient and useful in the real world than TKD for those of less than superhuman ability and lots of proficiency practice.....in a nushell I think in Aikido you can pick up more useful self-defense skills in a short period of time than anything else I've learned.

I've run into two Ex-USMC guys down here who mentioned something called "Semper Fu"...I guess it's a nickname for the USMC unarmed combat training?

Can any Marines elaborate?

ogukuo72
01-20-2004, 04:27 AM
1 Year periodic CQB training. Our current instructor is full-time NZ Police AOS, and like me, part-time NZDF. He's big into Aikido...so we learn mostly Aikido.

.....which in my opinion is much more efficient and useful in the real world than TKD for those of less than superhuman ability and lots of proficiency practice.....in a nushell I think in Aikido you can pick up more useful self-defense skills in a short period of time than anything else I've learned.


I agree. As a testament to its effectiveness, one of my Aikido instructors is a 45 year old woman half my size. I could never successfully take her down, even when employing non-Aikido methods like kicking. In terms of sheer efficiency in the amount of effort expended in taking down an opponent, I believe that Aikido or Jujitsu are amongst the best.

martinexsquaddie
01-20-2004, 05:02 AM
I wonder how effective martial arts would be against a soldier on the battlefield I used to trog around with so much stuff in my smock or a chest rig and belt order now you got body armour as well and a helmet.
Once dealt with some toe rag with a nunchukka by giving him a head butt
with a kevlar helmet on put him down quite effectivly :lol:

Argyll
01-20-2004, 05:24 AM
I once drew a picture of Sherriff Woody,does that count as a" Marshall" Art?

Seiyuuki
01-20-2004, 06:35 AM
I am fortunate that my Sensei still maintain some of the old traditions. He began teaching me and his grandson, also my best friend, when we were young in Bujutsu, which can broken down into many different areas:

Kyujutsu (Archery)
Yarijutsu (Spearmanship)
Jojutsu (Bo/Staff)
Kenjutsu & Iaijutsu (Swordsmanship)
Jobajutsu (Horsemanship)
Suieijutsu (Swimming)
Tessenjutsu (War Fan)
Aikijutsu (Unarmed)
Jujutsu (Wrestling)

Ballistic
01-20-2004, 07:15 AM
Fear My Gun Foo

http://images.countingdown.com/images/countdowns/movies/548502/1011/2630806_main.jpg

Ah yes, the Grammaton Cleric. :D Very hardcore.

I practiced Shorin Ru (Shorin Ryu) for about 2 years and Muay Thai kickboxing for about 6 months. I really should start up again.

Javehn
01-20-2004, 07:22 AM
Nice martial art is JKD , but there are almost non real scools of this art .Jetkundo was formed by Bruce Lee himself , but unfortunatly few of his students have became teachers of it themselfes , most famous of them is Den Inosanto .

Good practical martial arts are Sambo , russian Martial art that means defence without weapon . It is very practical , unlike different martial arts (including even the most famous Karate , Jiujitsu , Teikvando , VyetVodao, Kapuera and so on ) that are just living in past , and very "narrow" in they fighting way (every martial art was planned in beginning against different types of threats , and have different approaches to the same problem) . I practised it for couple of years in Russia , and it was very practical and effective . Maybe the "Krav Maga" can also fit to this , but i don't think there are many schools of this martial art in the world.

Saint
01-20-2004, 07:30 AM
I received my blue sash in Wushen Kung-Fu when I was like 14, then did the typical switch to Kyokushin Karate and Thai Kickboxing (at the same school) and have been training their for 3 and a half years. Unfortunately, this whole university thing is a kick in the f****** nuts and kills your time.

Tengu
01-20-2004, 07:35 AM
I did 5 years of ninjutsu

Seiyuuki
01-20-2004, 07:37 AM
Tao of Jeet Kune Do by Bruce Lee is a good start.

Javehn
01-20-2004, 07:46 AM
Yes , nice book actually . BL has too much filosofical thoughts there .

UkrainianAmerican
01-20-2004, 07:59 AM
I am not an expert, but some of the oriental marshall arts require too much streching, which makes them sorta impractical in real world applications, unless your enemy is willl to wait for you. Modern marshall arts are more effective, and include disarming your opponent.

Argo AdAm
01-20-2004, 12:14 PM
1 kyu Karate-do Gosoku-ryu,
Warsaw Karate Centre http://www.karate.com.pl/en01.html
http://www.karate.com.pl/godlo1.gif

USAF G
01-20-2004, 12:31 PM
Western boxing, JKD, Kali (Philipino arts), and some Muey Thai. Besides my local training, I had the opportunity to take a seminar from Guru Dan Insosanto, and he is really awesome. He has an amazing array of skills, and he's a great teacher. I study those because that's what I have access to, and they integrate really well with my gun training. :)

G

Mr Gently Benevolent
01-20-2004, 12:47 PM
A year of kick boxing when I was about 16-17 and then a few more years of practical application of kick boxing skills every weekend, sometimes getting beaten into jam and other times getting pinched, spending the weekend in the cells and paying a fine. I mostly gouge and bite these days. ;)

Arnisador
01-20-2004, 12:59 PM
Have my ratings in arnis, sikaran, shotokan and kenpo. Mid-level training in hapkido and aikido. A smattering of tai chi (the original formula, not the slo-mo version ;) )

Unfortunately TKD has a bad rep here...in the early 90's we had 3 different clubs show up over a two year period. Forced people to pre-pay for uniforms, fees. and a few months of classes, and then skipped off with the funds. Different name, different instructors, same scam.

Magua
01-20-2004, 12:59 PM
Semper Fu is the nickname some Marines have given the new Marine Corps Martial Arts Program or MCMAP. Its a combatives course which has different belt levels symbolized by a colored riggers belt. All Marines graduating from MCRDs and TBS are required to earn the tan belt.
The levels are Tan, Grey, Green, Brown, Black, Advanced Black.

rom2
01-20-2004, 01:01 PM
someone talked about Aikido ?

Nondescript
01-20-2004, 01:02 PM
3 years of jiu justsu when I was around 10, so don't mess with me i'm dangerous. rofl

Does fighting in kindergarden count, if it does I have two years of that too.

stephane from Paris
01-20-2004, 01:46 PM
Younger I practised french boxe (savate) a close to Kick boxing sport!

Javehn
01-20-2004, 01:49 PM
Haha , Savate is probably one of the most funny martial arts in the world ever . It has couple of good kicks thow , and several combining martial arts used it .

Whisper
01-20-2004, 02:02 PM
I have been studying the martial arts since i was 5 years old. So thats 19 years now. I orginially studied under my grandfather who served as a ranger in WWII and Korea, he picked up Jujitsu over seas. Then moved onto boxing, and TKD. After I turned 14 in Alaska I got the snot nearly kicked out of me trying to use my TKD moves on a Thai kid...OUCH. Only thing that saved my butt was the joint manipulation my grand dad had taught me. A nice wrist lock and arm bar did the trick....but man was i UNNNNNNNNNNNNpretty for the next week lol. So then I felt it was a good idea to learn Muay Thai. So after that I studied Ko Nan Ryu Karate (now Ko Bu Ryu after the new kaicho) under Shihan Tim Snyder, and also recieved my shodan in Iaido under him as well.

stephane from Paris
01-20-2004, 02:06 PM
what do you feels so funny?
Notice that several time some former savate boxer's were also world champion in Thaï boxe and kick boxing!
But maybe you thinks that Thaï boxe is funny too!
Btw a friend was 2 times France's champion and 1 time Europe Boxe Thaï vice champion, and he respects Savate more than Krav maga that he also tried!

Scrim
01-20-2004, 02:09 PM
I got out before the new Marine Corps martial arts program was implemented. But here is a FAQ link. Its not really a style of one particular kind, but practical for actual combat situations.


16. What makes this new martial art more applicable to the battlefield than other, older martial arts?

Unlike other, more traditional martial arts, this program begins with the Marine’s basic weapon, the rifle and bayonet, transitioning from assault fire and flowing through the integrated continuum of the rifle/bayonet, edged weapons, weapons of opportunity, and ending potentially in unarmed combat. It is battlefield oriented, combat equipment based and develops in the Marine the ability to overcome physical hardship and physical obstacles (water survival, assault climber, cold weather training) under any climatic condition. It will develop a physical toughness in every Marine that will translate into mental toughness. It will produce a Marine who possesses combat fitness and the ability to handle any situation.

Fromhttp://www.mcu.usmc.mil/TbsNew/Pages/Martial_Arts/FAQs/faqs.htm

hood
01-20-2004, 02:55 PM
3 months? "Right"

Whenever I see tae kwon do I just have to sit there and laugh. The American version of it is just so goofy. I don't know what the hardcore Korean version is like, but what's generally taught over here is a joke. I've done quite a few martial arts and got to black level in one that took me more than 6 years of hard work to attain. I've heard of and personally known so many people that got black belts in tae kwon do in around 1.5 years even though they didn't have any previous experience. I'm sorry, but you're not an effective fighter in that short a period of time unless you're taking private lessons with Mr. Miyagi.

koster
01-20-2004, 05:58 PM
Well, that guy is also a black belt in kickboxing, 4th defree in Kenpo, he also tough E&E in the US Military.
But yeah, tae kwon do is a jock (no offence meant), atleast the one I was tought in Russia.

Jack Mehoff
01-20-2004, 06:19 PM
3 months? "Right"

Whenever I see tae kwon do I just have to sit there and laugh. The American version of it is just so goofy. I don't know what the hardcore Korean version is like, but what's generally taught over here is a joke. I've done quite a few martial arts and got to black level in one that took me more than 6 years of hard work to attain. I've heard of and personally known so many people that got black belts in tae kwon do in around 1.5 years even though they didn't have any previous experience. I'm sorry, but you're not an effective fighter in that short a period of time unless you're taking private lessons with Mr. Miyagi.

Mr. Miyagi is Japanese :D

Ratamacue
01-20-2004, 06:20 PM
Yeah, pretty sure that Miyagi taught Okinawan Martial Arts.

hood
01-20-2004, 06:35 PM
... joke ... har har...

koster
01-20-2004, 06:48 PM
Yeah, that's what I meant, joke :D

He219
01-20-2004, 06:50 PM
Anybody here take any martial arts? If so, what's your style?


My style, you can call the art of fighting without fighting.
;)

TriggerPuller
01-20-2004, 06:57 PM
Western boxing, JKD, Kali (Philipino arts), and some Muey Thai. Besides my local training, I had the opportunity to take a seminar from Guru Dan Insosanto, and he is really awesome. He has an amazing array of skills, and he's a great teacher. I study those because that's what I have access to, and they integrate really well with my gun training. :)

GI have been into the FMA,Muy Thai and JKD for 15 or so years now. I have trained with Dan and Richard Bustillo at IMB and trained extensively in the Phillipines under different Arnisador's and Escrimador's. Gross motor skills are what will get you through a fight not the fancy high kicks and spin moves. Train hard and train realistic and no matter what base you have learned from Surprise,Speed and Violence of Action will get it done!

TP

Jack Mehoff
01-20-2004, 07:04 PM
Anybody here take any martial arts? If so, what's your style?


My style, you can call the art of fighting without fighting.
;)

I surrender and pls don't hurt me style?

Ian H
01-20-2004, 07:26 PM
Fear My Gun Foo

http://images.countingdown.com/images/countdowns/movies/548502/1011/2630806_main.jpg




Its called 'gunkata' mate, but yeah, its pretty cool.

Uncle Sam
01-20-2004, 07:27 PM
I have been practicing Arnis De Mano and Kenpo for the last 6 years. Arnis a Fillipino style that I love to do.

Arnis de Mano cannot be verbally described to get a true sense of it's dynamics. It must be experienced. Like a song, it requires a sense of rhythm and flow. If you can't communicate the rhythm and melody, one cannot relate to the music.

Arnis de Mano (harness or armor of the hand) movements are angular and circular. Motion is continuous, that is those who have acquired or mastered the flow.

Don't look for crashing boisterous movement or sound. Arnis de Mano is more surgically applied thus the old Filipino adage "de-fanging the snake".

Although noted for its weaponry, Arnis de Mano is more. If you can understand the concepts of the use of a weapon, then you can relate the same principles to empty hand or "kun tao" (way of the hand). In its full curriculum of training it has footwork, weaponry, empty hands, power, flow, rhythm, and dance.

Uncle Sam
01-20-2004, 07:30 PM
Now, everyone in here should be a Kung-Fu master !

TriggerPuller
01-20-2004, 07:37 PM
I have been practicing Arnis De Mano and Kenpo for the last 6 years. Arnis a Fillipino style that I love to do.

Arnis de Mano cannot be verbally described to get a true sense of it's dynamics. It must be experienced. Like a song, it requires a sense of rhythm and flow. If you can't communicate the rhythm and melody, one cannot relate to the music.

Arnis de Mano (harness or armor of the hand) movements are angular and circular. Motion is continuous, that is those who have acquired or mastered the flow.

Don't look for crashing boisterous movement or sound. Arnis de Mano is more surgically applied thus the old Filipino adage "de-fanging the snake".

Although noted for its weaponry, Arnis de Mano is more. If you can understand the concepts of the use of a weapon, then you can relate the same principles to empty hand or "kun tao" (way of the hand). In its full curriculum of training it has footwork, weaponry, empty hands, power, flow, rhythm, and dance.While the principle of de-fanging the snake is usually referred to in the FMA's it has been around since at least the Roman Legions. In the FMA's it is a term used to describe you cutting the weapon wielding arm or hand of your opponent before he can lunge and stick you in the body. You want to diminish the fighters capabilities to want to continue. If you are in close range it is too easy for you to be gutted or stabbed but at medium or long ranges you can use this principle to your advantage.As you mentioned in FMA the empty hands,knife and stick hands are all the same movements so there is no remebering of different moves according to what your opponent is doing. Lots of good drills for coordination and muscle memory also exist Hubod and Siniwali to name a few. Take care

TP

ibstolidude
01-20-2004, 07:38 PM
Train hard and train realistic and no matter what base you have learned from Surprise,Speed and Violence of Action will get it done!
TP

A lesson, although in the military often taught, unfortunately not always easily learned or applied...

I got in a fight with a dude I knew I could beat in a fair fight, apparrently he knew it to...so he hit me in the face with a pole stick first; to be promptly followed by what my blurring eyes believed to be a rock...how the **** he got a rock inside I have no idea. Could have been an ash tray, could have been a Buick. Either way I went down like a soft sack **** spitting teeth.

I have never fought even remotely fair since... I'll hit a fuucker at the urinal when he isn't looking, with his hands on his tackle and his pants unzipped. I'll act like I'm not interested and scared then crack a dude as he is looking back at his buddys showing them how tough he is. Toss my hat in a guys face to be followed with a flurry of elbows and knees, assuming my hands are empty.

It's not that I have no shame but I have eaten with a straw one time and that is one too many. I won't really fight over pride, but if starts you have to teach people to back up off you ****. I'm too light weight to playing games.

But hey I am an asshole!

Uncle Sam
01-20-2004, 07:42 PM
I have been practicing Arnis De Mano and Kenpo for the last 6 years. Arnis a Fillipino style that I love to do.

Arnis de Mano cannot be verbally described to get a true sense of it's dynamics. It must be experienced. Like a song, it requires a sense of rhythm and flow. If you can't communicate the rhythm and melody, one cannot relate to the music.

Arnis de Mano (harness or armor of the hand) movements are angular and circular. Motion is continuous, that is those who have acquired or mastered the flow.

Don't look for crashing boisterous movement or sound. Arnis de Mano is more surgically applied thus the old Filipino adage "de-fanging the snake".

Although noted for its weaponry, Arnis de Mano is more. If you can understand the concepts of the use of a weapon, then you can relate the same principles to empty hand or "kun tao" (way of the hand). In its full curriculum of training it has footwork, weaponry, empty hands, power, flow, rhythm, and dance.While the principle of de-fanging the snake is usually referred to in the FMA's it has been around since at least the Roman Legions. In the FMA's it is a term used to describe you cutting the weapon wielding arm or hand of your opponent before he can lunge and stick you in the body. You want to diminish the fighters capabilities to want to continue. If you are in close range it is too easy for you to be gutted or stabbed but at medium or long ranges you can use this principle to your advantage.As you mentioned in FMA the empty hands,knife and stick hands are all the same movements so there is no remebering of different moves according to what your opponent is doing. Lots of good drills for coordination and muscle memory also exist Hubod and Siniwali to name a few. Take care

TP

uhhh, thanks...

TriggerPuller
01-20-2004, 07:44 PM
Train hard and train realistic and no matter what base you have learned from Surprise,Speed and Violence of Action will get it done!
TP

A lesson, although in the military often taught, unfortunately not always easily learned or applied...

I got in a fight with a dude I knew I could beat in a fair fight, apparrently he knew it to...so he hit me in the face with a pole stick first; to be promptly followed by what my blurring eyes believed to be a rock...how the f*** he got a rock inside I have no idea. Could have been an ash tray, could have been a Buick. Either way I went down like a soft sack **** spitting teeth.

I have never fought even remotely fair since... I'll hit a fuucker at the urinal when he isn't looking, with his hands on his tackle and his pants unzipped. I'll act like I'm not interested and scared then crack a dude as he is looking back at his buddys showing them how tough he is. Toss my hat in a guys face to be followed with a flurry of elbows and knees, assuming my hands are empty.

It's not that I have no shame but I have eaten with a straw one time and that is one too many. I won't really fight over pride, but if starts you have to teach people to back up off you ****. I'm too light weight to playing games.

But hey I am an asshole! hence this is why the first strike principle needs to be implemented in your arsenal. No hesitation or you will get beat down. And remember if you are in a fair fight your tactics suck.--CMC Hershel Davis. take care

TP

Uncle Sam
01-20-2004, 07:46 PM
edit**

ibstolidude
01-20-2004, 07:46 PM
:roll:
That was my poor attempt at tough boy street speak..

:lol:
:cantbeli:



speaking of humorous....
Beowulf - do you recall a certain mutual acquaintance and SCARS taining?

TriggerPuller
01-20-2004, 07:51 PM
I have been practicing Arnis De Mano and Kenpo for the last 6 years. Arnis a Fillipino style that I love to do.

Arnis de Mano cannot be verbally described to get a true sense of it's dynamics. It must be experienced. Like a song, it requires a sense of rhythm and flow. If you can't communicate the rhythm and melody, one cannot relate to the music.

Arnis de Mano (harness or armor of the hand) movements are angular and circular. Motion is continuous, that is those who have acquired or mastered the flow.

Don't look for crashing boisterous movement or sound. Arnis de Mano is more surgically applied thus the old Filipino adage "de-fanging the snake".

Although noted for its weaponry, Arnis de Mano is more. If you can understand the concepts of the use of a weapon, then you can relate the same principles to empty hand or "kun tao" (way of the hand). In its full curriculum of training it has footwork, weaponry, empty hands, power, flow, rhythm, and dance.While the principle of de-fanging the snake is usually referred to in the FMA's it has been around since at least the Roman Legions. In the FMA's it is a term used to describe you cutting the weapon wielding arm or hand of your opponent before he can lunge and stick you in the body. You want to diminish the fighters capabilities to want to continue. If you are in close range it is too easy for you to be gutted or stabbed but at medium or long ranges you can use this principle to your advantage.As you mentioned in FMA the empty hands,knife and stick hands are all the same movements so there is no remebering of different moves according to what your opponent is doing. Lots of good drills for coordination and muscle memory also exist Hubod and Siniwali to name a few. Take care

TP

uhhh, thanks...Didnt mean to re-iterate what you already knew it was more for the individuals here that didnt understand when you mentioned de-fanging the snake. thats all not a flame especially to one who like's the FMA's. FYI when I ws teaching Filipino Knife combatives i was the only caucasian allowed to do this I was known in the Filipino circles as Datu Puti(****ounced poo-tee) it means White Chief and I was very proud of this.

TP

TriggerPuller
01-20-2004, 07:54 PM
:roll:
That was my poor attempt at tough boy street speak..

:lol:
:cantbeli:



speaking of humorous....
Beowulf - do you recall a certain mutual acquaintance and SCARS taining?Dont even get me started on SCARS and Jerry Peterson.

RIPCORD, why all the edits in that one reply? :D

TP

HooyahCQB
01-20-2004, 08:12 PM
I spent years in Tai Kwon Do to earn my black belt. I wasn't satisfied. I wanted to kick some butt not do forms. Anyway its an honorable art but it wasn't for me. Very physically unchallenging too. I got talked into the wrestling team so I did that this year. But now I have mono and I can't do that :( I'd like to really really learn JKD and Tai Chi Chuan but its so rare.

TriggerPuller
01-20-2004, 08:17 PM
I spent years in Tai Kwon Do to earn my black belt. I wasn't satisfied. I wanted to kick some butt not do forms. Anyway its an honorable art but it wasn't for me. Very physically unchallenging too. I got talked into the wrestling team so I did that this year. But now I have mono and I can't do that :( I'd like to really really learn JKD and Tai Chi Chuan but its so rare.JKD is not rare but I guess it depends on where you live.

TP

California Joe
01-20-2004, 08:19 PM
My real last name is Gracie. I'm a bad man.

He219
01-20-2004, 08:20 PM
Anybody here take any martial arts? If so, what's your style?


My style, you can call the art of fighting without fighting.
;)

I surrender and pls don't hurt me style?

I'm familiarizing myself with Okinawan Shorin-ryu, through my buddy Sensei George Baker.

:D

HooyahCQB
01-20-2004, 08:23 PM
Guess I'll have to look harder Trigger. :)

California Joe
01-20-2004, 08:30 PM
Where's Budanski? I bet he's good at martial arts and all. Because, you know.... ;)

duck
01-20-2004, 08:30 PM
The rhythm and flow, some would say motorics, interests me. I've got some experience in japanese styles and after a few years you start realizing how important rhythm and continuous balanced movement is. Also breathing and using your voice. One style I would really like to get to know is Hontai Yoshin-Ryu Jujutsu based in Kobe, Japan. Very versatile, includes traditional chinese/japanese healing practises, a scientific approach to the human body and mind and all that Samurai romantic stuff...

TriggerPuller
01-20-2004, 08:39 PM
Guess I'll have to look harder Trigger. :)Iam triggerpuller. Trigger makes up logos and ****! :D

TP

TriggerPuller
01-20-2004, 08:41 PM
The rhythm and flow, some would say motorics, interests me. I've got some experience in japanese styles and after a few years you start realizing how important rhythm and continuous balanced movement is. Also breathing and using your voice. One style I would really like to get to know is Hontai Yoshin-Ryu Jujutsu based in Kobe, Japan. Very versatile, includes traditional chinese/japanese healing practises, a scientific approach to the human body and mind and all that Samurai romantic stuff........if you want to learn this dont forget to DUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Saint
01-20-2004, 08:55 PM
Not to disrespect any Mairnes, but I remember watching a tape of one of our fighters from our dojo (kyokushin karate/kickboxing) who fought in the Shidokan in the US (not sure when or where in the US but Im sure I could find out). Anyway, he fought this Marine and busted up his ribs really bad. It was a good fight still.

Merik
01-20-2004, 09:09 PM
I haven't had anything to do with martial arts since I was a little kid, with only about 2 months in Tae Kwon Do, but I am really wanting to get back into some form of the martial arts. So what I want to know is, for a 6'4", kinda skinny guy what should I go with?
Whats Aikido?
I know of Ju-Jitsu but what is it? Stuff like that is what I want to know.

I want to work with both my hands and feet but also my whole body but not in a set patterned kinda way like in TKD. Any suggestions?

TriggerPuller
01-20-2004, 09:17 PM
Not to disrespect any Mairnes, but I remember watching a tape of one of our fighters from our dojo (kyokushin karate/kickboxing) who fought in the Shidokan in the US (not sure when or where in the US but Im sure I could find out). Anyway, he fought this Marine and busted up his ribs really bad. It was a good fight still.Just because someone was in the service or the SEALs or Marines or SF doesnt necessarily correlate into being a good fighter. Conversly sport fighting in the ring doesnt necessarily correlate into being a good street fighter either.

TP

California Joe
01-20-2004, 09:21 PM
Apples and Oranges. Maybe that same Marine could have waxed him at 1000 yards with a rifle.

TriggerPuller
01-20-2004, 09:31 PM
Apples and Oranges. Maybe that same Marine could have waxed him at 1000 yards with a rifle.Exactly!!

TP

Uncle Sam
01-20-2004, 09:57 PM
I have been practicing Arnis De Mano and Kenpo for the last 6 years. Arnis a Fillipino style that I love to do.

Arnis de Mano cannot be verbally described to get a true sense of it's dynamics. It must be experienced. Like a song, it requires a sense of rhythm and flow. If you can't communicate the rhythm and melody, one cannot relate to the music.

Arnis de Mano (harness or armor of the hand) movements are angular and circular. Motion is continuous, that is those who have acquired or mastered the flow.

Don't look for crashing boisterous movement or sound. Arnis de Mano is more surgically applied thus the old Filipino adage "de-fanging the snake".

Although noted for its weaponry, Arnis de Mano is more. If you can understand the concepts of the use of a weapon, then you can relate the same principles to empty hand or "kun tao" (way of the hand). In its full curriculum of training it has footwork, weaponry, empty hands, power, flow, rhythm, and dance.While the principle of de-fanging the snake is usually referred to in the FMA's it has been around since at least the Roman Legions. In the FMA's it is a term used to describe you cutting the weapon wielding arm or hand of your opponent before he can lunge and stick you in the body. You want to diminish the fighters capabilities to want to continue. If you are in close range it is too easy for you to be gutted or stabbed but at medium or long ranges you can use this principle to your advantage.As you mentioned in FMA the empty hands,knife and stick hands are all the same movements so there is no remebering of different moves according to what your opponent is doing. Lots of good drills for coordination and muscle memory also exist Hubod and Siniwali to name a few. Take care

TP

uhhh, thanks...Didnt mean to re-iterate what you already knew it was more for the individuals here that didnt understand when you mentioned de-fanging the snake. thats all not a flame especially to one who like's the FMA's. FYI when I ws teaching Filipino Knife combatives i was the only caucasian allowed to do this I was known in the Filipino circles as Datu Puti(****ounced poo-tee) it means White Chief and I was very proud of this.

TP

Cuz I replied to the wrong one...But I fixed it...

Salty Dog
01-20-2004, 10:00 PM
I have a 2nd Kyu Black Belt in Aikido.

that's pretty crazy.

Jack Mehoff
01-20-2004, 10:00 PM
Where's Budanski? I bet he's good at martial arts and all. Because, you know.... ;)

Rice eater?

ogukuo72
01-20-2004, 10:41 PM
I have a 2nd Kyu Black Belt in Aikido.

that's pretty crazy.
2nd Kyu is only what one might call a "junior" black belt. I'm going for my 1st Kyu test in a month's time. After 1st Kyu will be 1st Dan, 2nd Dan and so forth. So, I've a long way to go.

Durandal
01-21-2004, 12:58 AM
Apples and Oranges. Maybe that same Marine could have waxed him at 1000 yards with a rifle.

Good point Joe!

Martial Arts cover any form of fighting style, not just all those homoerotic asian ones where you touch each other.

;)

Saint
01-21-2004, 01:52 AM
But I thought if you were in Karate you could dodge bullets? :(

Durandal
01-21-2004, 02:06 AM
But I thought if you were in Karate you could dodge bullets? :(

No, that was Remo Williams. He had his own special Kung Fu...

Sleeping Sun
02-16-2004, 07:55 AM
Started german Ju-Jutsu a little over a month ago. I find it very interesting and realistic. It contains all areas of hand-to-hand combat. From kicking and punching to throwing and grappling. The punching and kicking techniques are mostly taken from Thaiboxing and a few from tae kwon do.

Sleeping Sun
02-16-2004, 08:03 AM
I found this on the net the other day...
...wouldn't **** with anyone who's gone through this course since they have become aware of the destructive powers they posses! rofl

http://koti.mbnet.fi/keeper/funneys/KarateAd.jpg

memphiz
02-16-2004, 03:50 PM
im a Ninja ;) ,am so.

im also drunken monkey qualified






serious stuff now: i did tae-kwan-do for a few months but i stopped because the instructor kept getting mad at me for "accidently" kicking my friend in the groin wi'll sparing. he said i had to do like 30 push ups after every class till i got my yellow belt.
and he also left teaching for a bit because his wife had a babie so he made some of the older kids instruct us and they were assholes so i left. my freind stayed in and he's now a blackbelt.

MxxxFxxxx
02-16-2004, 06:31 PM
A neighbor told me about something called (I'm not sure of the spelling) Ma Ge Fourse........I said BS there's no such thing. He said it means something like "heavy but invisible force" and was an offshoot of Krav Maga, and he was a 10th degree something (don't remember). Normally he is pretty harmlesss, just one of those "knows just enough to be dangerous" types but in this instance it could actually get him in trouble.

By someone backing me up and calling BS, it would go a long way in shutting him up. For some reason if he sees it on the internet he believes it....you know the type. :roll:

Thanks!

Cael
02-16-2004, 06:56 PM
I never really liked Martial Arts much. For me it didn't serve much of a purpose. The only things that I did do was freestyle/colleagiant wrestling(most of my life) and a bit of kick boxing.

Trigger
02-16-2004, 06:58 PM
I'm pretty good at thumb wrestling. :D

Cael
02-16-2004, 06:59 PM
It requires a lot of skill to master thumb wrestling.

California Joe
02-16-2004, 08:08 PM
Wow, who woulda thought everyone on the internet was a master of a martial art or 6.

TriggerPuller
02-16-2004, 10:13 PM
Surprise,speed,violence of action but only if you are not a chicken **** little puussy in the first place!! If you can control your adrenaline flow then this will always work if you use it as a first strike principal!!

TP

Saint
02-16-2004, 10:17 PM
Wow, who woulda thought everyone on the internet was a master of a martial art or 6.


Hahahaha, yah no **** eh. Hey, why dosen't everyone on this forum start a Merc group?

Cael
02-16-2004, 10:37 PM
You guys are just mad you can't thumb wrestle.

Trigger
02-16-2004, 11:48 PM
Surprise,speed,violence of action but only if you are not a chicken **** little puussy in the first place!! If you can control your adrenaline flow then this will always work if you use it as a first strike principal!!

TP
Yeah baby!
Right before any big thumb wrestling match I do a little self face slapping to get the adrenalin flowing and then I make these crazy Eddie Murphy eyes at my opponent...works every time.

Other times I'll just grab a complete strangers hand and pin his thumb before he's even prepared...suckers. :D

spyguy
02-17-2004, 12:04 AM
has anyone spent any time learning Gracie JiuJitsu i heard CAJoe drop a plug. i did a little research on what was available around here and had some seemingly practical application, Gracie Brazilian JiuJitsu was my first choice i plan to start this summer and i'd like to know if anyone could tell me anything concrete about it.


not to say anything about Tae Kwon Do but i took it for four years when i was ending elementary and through middle school been almost eight years and even tho i got my "black belt" i dont feel like an expert but then again i dont feel like i learned nothing. i guess it's just been a long time.

Jack Mehoff
02-17-2004, 12:07 AM
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Cael
02-17-2004, 01:01 AM
I was talking to some of the guys from the 7th SFG and they were saying how we're actually able to take BJJ(or a mix of it along side other JJ styles) for free. I don't have much info on it, but from what they said anyone could just walk in from the ODA and take roll around with the class.

SABER 2-3
02-17-2004, 02:35 AM
Surprise,speed,violence of action but only if you are not a chicken **** little puussy in the first place!! If you can control your adrenaline flow then this will always work if you use it as a first strike principal!!

TP
"SPEED, SURPRISE AND VIOLENCE OF ACTION" are not the defining characteristics found in most chicken **** little pussies anyway. I am not sure what you mean when you say control your adrenaline flow; I have laid my hands on quite a few subjects and kicked a few to sleep...I don't always get a adrenaline dump, when I do it is sudden and w/o warning.

ogukuo72
02-17-2004, 03:00 AM
I like to think that martial arts offer a bit more than self defence systems. There's a lot of self defence systems out there that can teach someone to effectively neutralise an opponent.

But martial arts should also be about the cultivation of self-awareness, discipline, and self actualisation. These are qualities that soldiers and law enforcement officers should have too.

SABER 2-3
02-17-2004, 03:50 AM
Thats part of the reason we still encourage younger troops to indoctrinate themselves into various martial art forms. The real value of most martial art forms is the mental focus and awareness that is gained by its students. The reality is that most martial arts are designed as a competitive event or were designed to combat a specific threat. The study of human un-armed combatives is just that a study and to some extent is a constant on the physical side. The mental side or state of those engaged in combatives is quite often the most important.

snapper2k6
09-25-2006, 07:35 PM
Anybody here take any martial arts? If so, what's your style?

I've been taking Tae Kwon Do for the last 3 years and i'm going to test for my high brown belt this Friday. :D


Hey i have been doing taekwondo for 12 years and there is no brown belt in the dicipline what so ever i am a 3rd dan black belt looking to take my 4th in april i am also the former british sports taekwondo champion as well...p-)

snapper2k6
09-25-2006, 07:47 PM
Whenever I see tae kwon do I just have to sit there and laugh. The American version of it is just so goofy. I don't know what the hardcore Korean version is like, but what's generally taught over here is a joke. I've done quite a few martial arts and got to black level in one that took me more than 6 years of hard work to attain. I've heard of and personally known so many people that got black belts in tae kwon do in around 1.5 years even though they didn't have any previous experience. I'm sorry, but you're not an effective fighter in that short a period of time unless you're taking private lessons with Mr. Miyagi.

Sorry i have to laugh at the 3 month thing it a farce it is when an instructor decides to grade his student on his own and not the backing of the tkd headquaters (kukkiwon) so effectivly they are not a black belt and if decided to train at another club would have to show a kukkiwon certificate to continue at there grade.

My instructors certificate can be viewed on: www.northerntaekwondo.co.uk (http://www.northerntaekwondo.co.uk) rofl