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Adno_sk
08-25-2005, 06:03 PM
Avon's spray finds calling as midge repellent for Royal Marines

ARTHUR MACMILLAN

THEY are famed for their ability to operate at sea, in the jungle or in the Arctic wastes and freezing cold of Norway. Battles throughout the centuries have won the Royal Marine Commandos a reputation as one of the world's elite fighting forces.

And as the last line of security in guarding Britain's nuclear weapons, they are pivotal to the Defence of the Realm.

But it appears that on the home front our toughest soldiers are prepared to pander to their softer side to combat Scotland's most persistent foe: the midge.

For years the Marines at Faslane who guard nuclear missiles and the submarines capable of firing them have looked for an answer. They've finally found it in a brand of women's skin cream.

Instead of using mosquito repellent issued by their unit, soldiers and workers at the base are buying Avon body lotion to repel midges on the West Coast. The company traditionally associated with images of well-dressed women selling cosmetics door-to-door is experiencing an unexpected boom thanks to the pesky insect. Neil Smith, a Royal Navy spokesman at HMS Clyde, near Helensburgh, said: "It's not official kit but nothing works better and the Marines are buying it themselves because the midges are so bad up there."

The wonder cure is a £5 bottle of dry oil body spray from Avon's Skin So Soft range. The midge problem at the base where Trident missiles and Vanguard submarines are stationed is so bad it recently installed a MidgeEater machine at the front gate. Workers at the camp can often be seen wearing midge nets on their heads.

Royal Marines are also taking the skin cream on field training exercises outside the base. But although it is the answer to their prayers, they have not been able to buy it at the local chemist.

Smith said: "There has been a lot of group buying because you can only get the stuff from Avon. Some buy it online and others are ordering it through local Avon ladies."

A stores sergeant at 45 Commando, based at Arbroath, said: "There is nothing effeminate about it. The reason the Nods [Marines] are using it is because it is good kit. It works. It's as simple as that."

It is thought that the oily base of the body spray is the ingredient that repels midges. Made with shea butter and vitamins, Avon's packaging boasts that it will "ensure your skin feels velvety soft, hour after hour".

Sales of the spray have gone through the roof this summer with several Avon ladies selling hundreds of bottles.

Anna Brown, Avon's area manager for the West Coast of Scotland, where the company has 353 sales representatives, said word of the body spray's ability to repel midges has spread since the wives of servicemen discovered its hidden qualities.

She said: "We sell it as a body moisturiser but many people tell us they are only buying it to get rid of midges. We don't market it as an insect repellent because its primary use is to soften your skin. But it is undoubtedly one of our best sellers, with our best agents having to order up to 200 bottles every three weeks."

But like the best boots, clothing and equipment which soldiers buy out of their own pocket, there are no plans to make Avon's cream standard issue to troops.

And it is not only the military who are taking advantage of Avon's beauty products. Word of the spray's ability to fight midges has spread throughout the entire West Coast, with sales being picked up in Dumbarton, Campbeltown, Oban and Dunoon. It has also been claimed that both the US army and the SAS use it as mosquito repellent in the jungle.

Brown said: "We don't ask people why they are buying it but some people tell us it is because they have heard it is good at combating midges."

Scottish Water engineers in the Highlands and forestry workers are also placing orders. In recent years a more terminal approach to tackling midges has been the MidgeEater range of traps, which generate carbon dioxide to mimic the exhaled breath of humans which are the midge's favoured haunt. Once fooled into coming within range, the hapless insects are then sucked into the trap at high speed.

But despite its dry oil body spray's midge-fighting ability, Avon seems reluctant to sell the lotion to the British public as an insect repellent.

A company spokeswoman said: "We cannot do that because UK pharmaceutical laws ban us from doing so, although there has been talk of it being marketed as an mosquito repellent in America where the rules are different."

There are more than 30 species of midge in Scotland but it is the female Culicoides impunctatus variety that causes torment. It is the only type of midge that bites. The crew responsible for the final episodes of Monarch of the Glen set at Ardverikie estate, near Loch Laggan, wore anti-midge body suits and veiled headgear while filming.

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1819182005

joshfox0
08-25-2005, 06:36 PM
:lol: godbless the avon ladys

PrincessRAR
08-25-2005, 06:57 PM
my god who would ever have though, i use make up creame as cam creame ;)

Flagg
08-25-2005, 08:22 PM
I thought Skin So Soft as isect repellent was well known?

It kept off the skeeters and gnats at the Jersey Shore :P

but didn't even slow down the greenheads :(

vampireuk
08-25-2005, 08:25 PM
After getting mauled by midges far too many times I can safely say anything that keeps the buggers away is worth wearing.

Nikitaras
08-25-2005, 09:43 PM
Skin-so-soft was a Godsend to us in the Marines. I've used it in over 20 different countries including some with thick a$$ jungles and not a single bite.

oldsoak
08-26-2005, 09:01 AM
I thought Skin So Soft as isect repellent was well known?

It kept off the skeeters and gnats at the Jersey Shore :P

but didn't even slow down the greenheads :(

does it work on your sandflies ( The All Blacks of the midge world ) ?
I've been using Bushman and some strange organic stuff I bought up in Queensland. Bush,an works a treet but I cant use it with SA80 in case it melts it. The organic stuff works but needs frequent re-application.

Argyll
08-26-2005, 09:20 AM
Been using the stuff for the past two years!! ;)
IIRC they stopped making it,or it's no longer on their catalogue,my wifes best mate used to be an Avon rep

Beer Monster
08-26-2005, 09:56 AM
Been using the stuff for the past two years!! ;)
IIRC they stopped making it,or it's no longer on their catalogue,my wifes best mate used to be an Avon rep

Not sure if you can get in the catalogue but you can still get it off the website (http://avonshop.co.uk/product.asp?prod=16906&returnto=catalog.asp?id=40).

The stuff is an absolute God send. My family live on the west coast of Scotland and they can't go outside after about 5pm in the summer without slapping this stuff on. Having said that my father having been born and brought up there seems to be immune to midges.

I still remember many moons ago my first exercise at Garelochhead and forgetting my midge net/cream. The 60 minutes stag I pulled was the worst 60mins of my life ........ clouds of midges. They now both permanently live in my smock pocket!

California Joe
08-26-2005, 10:23 AM
The beginning of summer up here in Northern Vermont is killer black fly season. We've always used that stuff. Now I believe they even make it with sunscreen too.

molly747
08-26-2005, 04:51 PM
That's been common knowledge for about 15 years now. I remember using that at summer camp in 4th grade.

Para
08-26-2005, 04:55 PM
All this stuff comes in a little handbag, with a mirror and matching lipstick.

California Joe
08-26-2005, 05:13 PM
:lol:

Hellfish
08-26-2005, 05:19 PM
We used to wear short pantyhose under our socks in the Army to prevent blisters. :roll:

wamp
08-26-2005, 05:19 PM
I think I read the title to fast because I thought it was saying that the Royal Marines have a new midget repellent :cantbeli:

sir-chimp
08-26-2005, 05:35 PM
I think I read the title to fast because I thought it was saying that the Royal Marines have a new midget repellent :cantbeli:


x2 lol

turan8
08-26-2005, 06:03 PM
I've seen several consumer reports that say avon's skin so soft cream are NOT as effective as Deet. Deet is all that you need.

Erik2a4
08-26-2005, 07:30 PM
I thought Skin So Soft as isect repellent was well known?

It kept off the skeeters and gnats at the Jersey Shore :P

but didn't even slow down the greenheads :(

does it work on your sandflies ( The All Blacks of the midge world ) ?
I've been using Bushman and some strange organic stuff I bought up in Queensland. Bush,an works a treet but I cant use it with SA80 in case it melts it. The organic stuff works but needs frequent re-application.

Yes, it works on Sandflies...although after growing up in the Carolina's I may be immune to them.

Oh, and pantyhose also works to keep off leechs, and Pond's make-up remover is excellent for removing days of built-up camo paint. :lol:

PrincessRAR
08-26-2005, 09:16 PM
I've seen several consumer reports that say avon's skin so soft cream are NOT as effective as Deet. Deet is all that you need.

except deet is harmful..you cna only put it on clothes not the skin or not alot of it and reapply.

Flagg
08-29-2005, 01:40 AM
I thought Skin So Soft as isect repellent was well known?

It kept off the skeeters and gnats at the Jersey Shore :P

but didn't even slow down the greenheads :(

does it work on your sandflies ( The All Blacks of the midge world ) ?
I've been using Bushman and some strange organic stuff I bought up in Queensland. Bush,an works a treet but I cant use it with SA80 in case it melts it. The organic stuff works but needs frequent re-application.

I haven't used Skin SoSoft as of late(the beach behind my house is THANKFULLY free of any biting critters).

The NZ Army issue insect repellent I've used is bloody good, we've got three types:

1.) small squirty bottle(I think it's DEET)
2.) small roll on deoderant type container(also think it's DEET)
3.) repellant embeded in cam paint

But come summer time on the West Coast, sandflies are horrible.

On the 2004 AFE we were set on ambush for what felt like yonks, I was using all three repellants regularly applied and I got chewed.

My hands appeared as if I had small pox for almost two weeks after...not fun
:lol:

pathfinder82
08-29-2005, 02:10 AM
Been using the stuff for the past two years!! ;)
IIRC they stopped making it,or it's no longer on their catalogue,my wifes best mate used to be an Avon rep


My mum wan an avon lady for a couple years. She turned us on to the spray in the early 90's. Its still doesnt beat jungle juice though.