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Can somebody please post pics of the Air Force Para-Rescue as well as provide me with a little known information about them, I am interested in joining.
http://www.af.mil/media/photodb/photos/030701-F-5586B-008.jpg
googled it and this was the only good one i could get.
Thanks, but my requests never get responded to (maybe somone could tell me why? :|
EvanL
08-27-2005, 03:43 AM
Can somebody please post pics of the Air Force Para-Rescue as well as provide me with a little known information about them, I am interested in joining.
http://www.af.mil/media/photodb/photos/030701-F-5586B-008.jpg
googled it and this was the only good one i could get.
Thanks, but my requests never get responded to (maybe somone could tell me why? :|
those are action figuires
p-)
Search the USAF site champ.
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/6950/usafpararescue8ep.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/2707/untitled10vk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
never bothered with searching any direct branch website, i was trying to avoid the "propaganda" of the recruitment stuff...didnt know what else to call it.
From what I hear they are looking for people to do this kind of stuff.
provide me with a little known information about them
Nobody in the US armed forces spends more time practicing getting out of, and back into helicopters. :P
Gauntlet
08-27-2005, 09:38 AM
http://www.state.sd.us/dol/pararescue.jpg
http://specialtactics.us/albums/pjops/hoist.jpg
http://specialtactics.us/albums/pjops/rappel.jpg
http://specialtactics.us/albums/pjops/ii073103l.jpg
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http://specialtactics.us/albums/pjops/onload.jpg
http://specialtactics.us/albums/pjops/pi031803a1.jpg
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http://specialtactics.us/albums/piwatertng/1Mvc_012s.jpg
CQB_Operator
08-27-2005, 09:51 AM
Really nice pics woot woot , KEEP ON Posting Gauntlet. :hug:
kayaker
08-27-2005, 10:02 AM
My 2Euro cent
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/JCDenton/pj_litterkit.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/JCDenton/mh60g_pj_ladder.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/JCDenton/PJ_water_pickup.jpg
MARINO
08-27-2005, 10:18 AM
Nice pics, but already posted ;)
Still the best info::
http://www.military.com/MilitaryCareers/Content/0,14556,MPDC_Options_ParaRescue_AirForce,00.html
Here's another:
http://members.tripod.com/~thede/history.html
kayaker
08-27-2005, 11:45 AM
I have done before yeah. Not everyone has seen them though ;)
kayaker
08-27-2005, 11:54 AM
Not exactly the most stringent basic physical requirments are they:
* One 25 meter underwater swim. The 25 meter underwater swim should be demonstrated first either through actual demonstration or by use of the training video that has already been supplied to recruiting squadrons. If members surface or break the water surface during any portion of the swim, the test will be stopped and considered a failure for the entire PAST. Swim suits and swim goggles are the only equipment items allowed. Do allow a 5-10 minute rest before the next event. Members should carefully stretch for the swim during this break time.
* One 1000 meter surface swim.
* One 1.5 mile run.
* Calisthenics:
o Chin-ups: Complete a minimum of 8 chin-ups within a 1 minute time period.
o Push-ups: Complete a minimum of 50 push-ups within a 2 minute time period.
o Sit-ups: Complete a minimum of 50 sit-ups within a 2 minute time period.
o Flutter-Kicks: Complete a minimum of 50 Flutter-Kicks within a 2 minute time period.
Could I complete all of these tests within the limits? Yes. But then most people of my age can. I also bear in mind these are the basic requirments. Physical demands will incline steeply as training continues I suspect (as well as mentally).
vote for Pedro
08-27-2005, 12:28 PM
http://www.af.mil/news/airman/0603/coversbb.jpg
Pararescuemen with the 301st Rescue Squadron return to a forward deployed location with an A-10 Thunderbolt II pilot who went down near Baghdad International Airport on April 8. The A-10 is designed to fly low and slow to provide close air support to troops on the ground, making it susceptible to enemy fire.
Awesome, I want to get a general idea of what I might look like if I end up doing this.
from what I hear the Airforce has
-best pay
-best housing
-best education
however if I ever joined any branch of the service I would want to basically carry a rifle.
I have looked at SEALS and army special forces school.
oh and do these guys get to grow their hair out?
SuperShot5000
08-27-2005, 12:53 PM
Not the best read, but some info on the job
http://www.nytimes.com/books/01/02/18/reviews/010218.18jarvist.html
Check out the Air Force's website, they're bound to have some stuff.
If you go for it, Doom, I wish you the best of luck!
woot woot woot
FallenAngel
08-27-2005, 01:14 PM
Not exactly the most stringent basic physical requirments are they:
* One 25 meter underwater swim. The 25 meter underwater swim should be demonstrated first either through actual demonstration or by use of the training video that has already been supplied to recruiting squadrons. If members surface or break the water surface during any portion of the swim, the test will be stopped and considered a failure for the entire PAST. Swim suits and swim goggles are the only equipment items allowed. Do allow a 5-10 minute rest before the next event. Members should carefully stretch for the swim during this break time.
* One 1000 meter surface swim.
* One 1.5 mile run.
* Calisthenics:
o Chin-ups: Complete a minimum of 8 chin-ups within a 1 minute time period.
o Push-ups: Complete a minimum of 50 push-ups within a 2 minute time period.
o Sit-ups: Complete a minimum of 50 sit-ups within a 2 minute time period.
o Flutter-Kicks: Complete a minimum of 50 Flutter-Kicks within a 2 minute time period.
Could I complete all of these tests within the limits? Yes. But then most people of my age can. I also bear in mind these are the basic requirments. Physical demands will incline steeply as training continues I suspect (as well as mentally).
IIRC the vast majority of the people who fail out of the ParaRescue program do so in the medical phase.
abncougar
08-27-2005, 01:53 PM
Awesome, I want to get a general idea of what I might look like if I end up doing this.
from what I hear the Airforce has
-best pay
-best housing
-best education
however if I ever joined any branch of the service I would want to basically carry a rifle.
I have looked at SEALS and army special forces school.
oh and do these guys get to grow their hair out?
first off, you didn't google well enough if that is the only pic you found.
second, you didn't search this sight, because we have several PJ threads (very nice, i must say)
third, if you lack the ability to search out and find info before asking, you probly don't have what it takes.
look at specialtactics.com, it is run by a current PJ. it has more info than you will get on here.
also, see socnet.com, in the pararescue thread forum.
lastly, why the **** does it matter if they can grow their hair out??
if you want to carry a rifle, then don't go pararescue, read some books about them. they carry a rifle and know how to use it, however, they specialize in trauma rescue. they do a lot of "cool guy" highspeed stuff. they like to call themselves "jacks of all trade".
i know all of this because i did the research, i called the recruiters, i read the books, i talked to the right people. ultimatley, i decided to remain on my ROTC contract and commission rather than enlist in the USAF on a GTEP for pararescue. do the research, and KNOW what you want to do.
and from what shrek told me, if you get into AFSOC, it is harder to get promoted, however, a smaller organization.
abncougar
08-27-2005, 01:54 PM
Not exactly the most stringent basic physical requirments are they:
* One 25 meter underwater swim. The 25 meter underwater swim should be demonstrated first either through actual demonstration or by use of the training video that has already been supplied to recruiting squadrons. If members surface or break the water surface during any portion of the swim, the test will be stopped and considered a failure for the entire PAST. Swim suits and swim goggles are the only equipment items allowed. Do allow a 5-10 minute rest before the next event. Members should carefully stretch for the swim during this break time.
* One 1000 meter surface swim.
* One 1.5 mile run.
* Calisthenics:
o Chin-ups: Complete a minimum of 8 chin-ups within a 1 minute time period.
o Push-ups: Complete a minimum of 50 push-ups within a 2 minute time period.
o Sit-ups: Complete a minimum of 50 sit-ups within a 2 minute time period.
o Flutter-Kicks: Complete a minimum of 50 Flutter-Kicks within a 2 minute time period.
Could I complete all of these tests within the limits? Yes. But then most people of my age can. I also bear in mind these are the basic requirments. Physical demands will incline steeply as training continues I suspect (as well as mentally).
IIRC the vast majority of the people who fail out of the ParaRescue program do so in the medical phase.
ive also read in Airman magazine (they did an article on INDOC), that most people fail/quit indoctrination becausee of the water, they can't pass the water test.
Gauntlet
08-27-2005, 01:56 PM
http://specialtactics.us/albums/AST/02_dit_rng7.jpg
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abncougar
08-27-2005, 02:07 PM
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abncougar
08-27-2005, 02:09 PM
http://images.google.com/images?q=pararescuemen&hl=en
:cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli:
abncougar
08-27-2005, 02:23 PM
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9554/fastrope3tf.th.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fastrope3tf.jpg)
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http://tinypic.com/b85ws7.jpg
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abncougar
08-27-2005, 02:25 PM
suggested reading:
None Braver.............Micheal Hirsh
That Others May Live......Jack Brehm
amazon.com
search---pararescue, pararescuemen, specail tactics, afsoc
abncougar
08-27-2005, 02:32 PM
Not exactly the most stringent basic physical requirments are they:
* One 25 meter underwater swim. The 25 meter underwater swim should be demonstrated first either through actual demonstration or by use of the training video that has already been supplied to recruiting squadrons. If members surface or break the water surface during any portion of the swim, the test will be stopped and considered a failure for the entire PAST. Swim suits and swim goggles are the only equipment items allowed. Do allow a 5-10 minute rest before the next event. Members should carefully stretch for the swim during this break time.
* One 1000 meter surface swim.
* One 1.5 mile run.
* Calisthenics:
o Chin-ups: Complete a minimum of 8 chin-ups within a 1 minute time period.
o Push-ups: Complete a minimum of 50 push-ups within a 2 minute time period.
o Sit-ups: Complete a minimum of 50 sit-ups within a 2 minute time period.
o Flutter-Kicks: Complete a minimum of 50 Flutter-Kicks within a 2 minute time period.
Could I complete all of these tests within the limits? Yes. But then most people of my age can. I also bear in mind these are the basic requirments. Physical demands will incline steeply as training continues I suspect (as well as mentally).
IIRC the vast majority of the people who fail out of the ParaRescue program do so in the medical phase.
INDOC has something like 90% attrition rate. whatever it is, it is supposedly higher than other specops units. there is a reason there is only something like 300 active duty PJs.
first off, you didn't google well enough if that is the only pic you found.
I did google in fact, however the pictures found here are BETTER than the ones I found on google. I mostly found pics of GI Joes and other stuff. I did look at most of the websites for info...I am just browsing.
second, you didn't search this sight, because we have several PJ threads (very nice, i must say)
Fine, you got me there. I figured it might catch the attention of someone who was actually a PJ (it seems like it did). I will do the search next time.
third, if you lack the ability to search out and find info before asking, you probly don't have what it takes.
I did search out, posting this thread was a part of my "searching out", you dont know a thing about who I am so F*** your judgement, just post me some pictures (which i see you did, thanks for that :) ) There is a difference between working hard and working smart.
lastly, why the f*** does it matter if they can grow their hair out??
Why the F*** is it so hard to answer? Just answer the question.
if you want to carry a rifle, then don't go pararescue, read some books about them. they carry a rifle and know how to use it, however, they specialize in trauma rescue. they do a lot of "cool guy" highspeed stuff. they like to call themselves "jacks of all trade".
I like the fact that they cross-train you in every feild, however when I say I would want to "carry a rife" means that if I joined up in the airforce I dont want to fly anything. Im not that narrow minded, you got the wrong impression of me.
I have talked to the army recruiter the most out of everyone, the friggin air force recruiter is never in his office (no call #s either)...that doesnt tell me much.[/quote]
I was under the impression (from what I heard from someone in the air force) is that they are ALWAYS looking for PJs because there is never enough.
Oh and I used the search engine, found the stuff I was looking for.
abncougar
08-27-2005, 02:52 PM
first off, you didn't google well enough if that is the only pic you found.
I did google in fact, however the pictures found here are BETTER than the ones I found on google. I mostly found pics of GI Joes and other stuff. I did look at most of the websites for info...I am just browsing.
http://images.google.com/images?q=pararescuemen&hl=en
second, you didn't search this sight, because we have several PJ threads (very nice, i must say)
Fine, you got me there. I figured it might catch the attention of someone who was actually a PJ (it seems like it did). I will do the search next time.
third, if you lack the ability to search out and find info before asking, you probly don't have what it takes.
I did search out, posting this thread was a part of my "searching out", you dont know a thing about who I am so F*** your judgement, just post me some pictures (which i see you did, thanks for that :) ) There is a difference between working hard and working smart.
lastly, why the f*** does it matter if they can grow their hair out??
Why the F*** is it so hard to answer? Just answer the question.
because if that is part of your reasoning for going pararescue, then you need to reconsider.
if you want to carry a rifle, then don't go pararescue, read some books about them. they carry a rifle and know how to use it, however, they specialize in trauma rescue. they do a lot of "cool guy" highspeed stuff. they like to call themselves "jacks of all trade".
I like the fact that they cross-train you in every feild, however when I say I would want to "carry a rife" means that if I joined up in the airforce I dont want to fly anything. Im not that narrow minded, you got the wrong impression of me.
If you want to be a shooter, go army sf, 18x, in 2.5- 3yrs. you can be SF, and you can always be 18D, SF medic. not so much trauma rescue, but they do a lot of Trauma treatment.
I have talked to the army recruiter the most out of everyone, the friggin air force recruiter is never in his office (no call #s either)...that doesnt tell me much.[/quote]
Thanks for answering most of my questions.
but the one question that for some reason is so hard to answer is probably the simplest out of all of them and its funny to see that it is taken so seriously.
I dont want to be with a group of people that take everything serious (work is the only exception), I want to be with people who can lighten up and take a F*** joke.
kayaker
08-27-2005, 03:13 PM
INDOC has something like 90% attrition rate. whatever it is, it is supposedly higher than other specops units. there is a reason there is only something like 300 active duty PJs.
Abncougar,
illuminating and educative information presented. Thank you. Thus far two reasons have been identified explaining the substantial attrition during selection. Can you elaborate?
Firstly medical training, is it the high intensity of "information flow", graphic nature of practical training or something or the complex aspect of the subject?
Secondly the water test. What does it involve that makes it challenging for aplicants to pass this stage?
Regards Ryan
abncougar
08-27-2005, 03:14 PM
Thanks for answering most of my questions.
but the one question that for some reason is so hard to answer is probably the simplest out of all of them and its funny to see that it is taken so seriously.
I dont want to be with a group of people that take everything serious (work is the only exception), I want to be with people who can lighten up and take a F*** joke.
ok, listen. I am a ROTC cadet, and i spent 2.5 weeks this summer at Robin Sage (google) working with SF students. you want to talk about chill?? these guys are it. AR 670-1, out the window. no uniform regs, the officers were treated just like one of the "guys" and they all just bull****ted with us for 16 days. when mission time came, it was serious, even our recons were chill.
I don't know if the PJs can lighten up and take a joke. i've never fratenized with them before. but, check out socnet, and you can actually talk to realy PJs. I don't think there are any on here, becase ive asked and know has ever responded.
5kMan
08-27-2005, 03:19 PM
Take a look at this, http://www.nationalgeographic.org/channel/rescuewarriors/. Every SOF is hurting for men right now.
kayaker
08-27-2005, 03:20 PM
http://specialtactics.us/albums/AST/02ftx20.jpg
Anyone identify what is on his LEFT shoulder?
abncougar
08-27-2005, 03:21 PM
INDOC has something like 90% attrition rate. whatever it is, it is supposedly higher than other specops units. there is a reason there is only something like 300 active duty PJs.
Abncougar,
illuminating and educative information presented. Thank you. Thus far two reasons have been identified explaining the substantial attrition during selection. Can you elaborate?
Firstly medical training, is it the high intensity of "information flow", graphic nature of practical training or something or the complex aspect of the subject?
Secondly the water test. What does it involve that makes it challenging for aplicants to pass this stage?
Regards Ryan
http://www.af.mil/news/airman/0200/pj.htm
I cannot speak about the medical training. i assume because it is the hardest type of training. Im currently reading a book about army SF, and one medic talks about how 15 guys started in his class and only 3 passed. I've also heard that army SF medical training is more thourough and the AF. (different subject)
The water test. What I KNOW. The majority of the human population does not like the water. we are bi-pedal. most people are OK swimmers, but at INDOC you go through several tests. the problem is being "comfortable in the water", this goes for all branches (err, except the navy, i guess). My mom had to teach my dad's colleague how to swim so that he could get through Ranger School.
Drown Proofing. they actually drown you. read the article above about seeing "the wizard"
Water harassment while practicing buddy breathing and other surface water training.
Under water knot tying. i dont know the details, only what i've read, but you have to tie several series of knots underwater before surfacing.
and the underwater swim.
basically, if you want to train for pararescue....run, run, run, do your calisthenics, but don't forget to get into the water and get comfortable.
its amazing how many cadets i have that aren't comfortable in the water.
abncougar
08-27-2005, 03:22 PM
http://specialtactics.us/albums/AST/02ftx20.jpg
Anyone identify what is on his LEFT shoulder?
stethoscope
kayaker
08-27-2005, 03:23 PM
Stop. Got it. re studied the pic its a stethoscope.'
EDIT: damn Abncougar feared you would beat me to it!
abncougar
08-27-2005, 03:26 PM
Stop. Got it. re studied the pic its a stethoscope.'
EDIT: damn Abncougar feared you would beat me to it!
haha, yeah.
well, if my army career goes to ****, i wanna try for pararescue. thats why i want to learn/know as much as possible. that and emergency medicine fascinates me.
kayaker
08-27-2005, 03:38 PM
Emergency medicine caught my eye too. Thats why this Thursday I will be starting a four year, full time course, finishing with Bachelors in Nursing. Throughout my final year I hope to specialise in emergency nursing. Coming November I will be visiting an information night of the Teritorial Army and very much looking forward to joining up full time in four years time.
Please tell more about yourself.
D.Sigurdsson
08-27-2005, 03:47 PM
http://files.bns-code.org/pj/1.jpg
http://files.bns-code.org/pj/2.jpg
http://files.bns-code.org/pj/3.jpg
Stop. Got it. re studied the pic its a stethoscope.'
EDIT: damn Abncougar feared you would beat me to it!
haha, yeah.
well, if my army career goes to ****, i wanna try for pararescue. thats why i want to learn/know as much as possible. that and emergency medicine fascinates me.
I believe we both have the same reasons for considering pararescue.
I was talking to an army recruiter and he told me about the delayed enrollment for SF. he told me i had a greater chance of getting into the SF community if i enlisted in high school because there are only like 180 SF postitions to fill for training or something like that.
I am considering the airforce because of other things it offers
as i said before
best pay
best education
best housing
I hear that the airforce takes best care of its people compared to other branches with benifits and stuff. I want to have maximum opportunity if and when i would leave the military and pararescue seems to be the best.
D.Sigurdsson
08-27-2005, 03:53 PM
not 100% sure about these two
http://files.bns-code.org/pj/4.jpg
http://files.bns-code.org/pj/5.jpg
kayaker
08-27-2005, 04:03 PM
I device that all doctors use: a stethoscope
Read above.
The only thing I know about the stethoscope is that it's an instrument used to detect and study sounds produced in the body that are conveyed to the ears of the listener through rubber tubing connected with a usually cup-shaped piece placed upon the area to be examined. Common areas include all four chambers of the heart: left/right ventricle left/right atria. More importantly listens to the constant closing noise produced by the valves i.e. bicuspid, tricuspid and semilunar. Also utilesed for the inspection of the airway i.e. aveoli, bronchiolus, bronchi. Dont know about the middle and upper airway i.e. tharyx, laryx, oral and nasal canal. Please advice.
Dominique
08-27-2005, 04:04 PM
The best info you cna find on USAF ground combat SOF units is at www.specialtactics.com It's run by an active duty AF PJ. if you are interested in info on TACPs then swing by www.romad.com it's run by an active duty af ETAC he also spent time assinged to a SOF TACP.
abncougar
08-27-2005, 04:32 PM
The best info you cna find on USAF ground combat SOF units is at www.specialtactics.com It's run by an active duty AF PJ. if you are interested in info on TACPs then swing by www.romad.com it's run by an active duty af ETAC he also spent time assinged to a SOF TACP.
been said before.
abncougar
08-27-2005, 04:35 PM
Emergency medicine caught my eye too. Thats why this Thursday I will be starting a four year, full time course, finishing with Bachelors in Nursing. Throughout my final year I hope to specialise in emergency nursing. Coming November I will be visiting an information night of the Teritorial Army and very much looking forward to joining up full time in four years time.
Please tell more about yourself.
I'm currently a kinesiology major and a ROTC cadet. I will (planning) be commissioning in May '07 into the Army (hopefully Active Duty). i have a 4 year mandatory service, if it falls through, i would like to pursue pararescue.
abncougar
08-27-2005, 04:37 PM
Stop. Got it. re studied the pic its a stethoscope.'
EDIT: damn Abncougar feared you would beat me to it!
haha, yeah.
well, if my army career goes to ****, i wanna try for pararescue. thats why i want to learn/know as much as possible. that and emergency medicine fascinates me.
I believe we both have the same reasons for considering pararescue.
I was talking to an army recruiter and he told me about the delayed enrollment for SF. he told me i had a greater chance of getting into the SF community if i enlisted in high school because there are only like 180 SF postitions to fill for training or something like that.
I am considering the airforce because of other things it offers
as i said before
best pay
best education
best housing
I hear that the airforce takes best care of its people compared to other branches with benifits and stuff. I want to have maximum opportunity if and when i would leave the military and pararescue seems to be the best.
i cant comment on this. I am an army brat, and i know that the army has taken care of my family. also, the AF special operations community is a small one, so it may take care of its people better.
Creeper
08-28-2005, 02:53 AM
Doom: regarding to the personel issues you listed :
Pay> an E-5 is a E-5- but a PJ is Halo/Scuba/Flt Crw qual'd, so there some extra $$, there mite be so "other" additional additionals ! no big deal.
Schools> PJs go to 18D @ Bragg (that mite have changed, b-c alot of PJ students were DQ'd in academics. The follow on schools are noteable !
Housing> off base apartment off Uncle Sams BAS/BAQ rates are the same DOD wide, but there are individual cases that may prove me wrong!
Yeah - you are right in general- life is good in the A.F.
PJ career field is a awesome game to play.
(remember- chk out the website- do ALOT of homework b-4 committing !!) Good Luck
Creeper
08-28-2005, 03:02 AM
just a cpl more notes:
the instructors DO NOT drown the trainee. IT DOES HAPPEN. It is not intionial. Hence- drown PROOFING. hell, guys pass out just doing underwaters ;)
Medical training- 18D course, unless modified by big blue.
Everybody interested needs to read specialtactics.com.
TY.
twest79
09-06-2005, 08:10 AM
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