WW II poland's brief history....

[Marmot1]

http://www.polandsholocaust.org/1939.html

Very interesting link even for me Pole...


part of it...


1940

May 29 Allied expeditionary force recaptures Narvik from the Germans.

June Within ten months of the German invasion of Poland, a Polish army of 85,000 men who escaped, is established in France under General Wladyslaw Sikorski, and will fight German invaders once more.

June 8 The Orzel is lost in Norwegian waters with six officers and forty-nine seamen.

June 14 First 728 Polish prisoners are brought to Auschwitz.
For the next 21 months the camp is used to imprison mostly Poles.

June 17 USSR invades Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania with half a million troops. Hundreds of thousands are deported to Siberia.

June 18 The First Polish Grenadier Division defends its sector in a two-day battle against the Germans at Lagarde, France.

June 19 As France pepares to surrender, General Sikorski
announces that Poland will continue to fight. Polish forces escape
to England, Switzerland and Africa.

June 20 Most of the Polish 2nd Division, 14,000 soldiers,
cross the Franco-Swiss border after the fall of France.

June 20-21 378 Polish prisoners from Pawiak Prison are executed by the Nazis near Palmiry.

June 22 France capitulates to Hitler.

June 23 Third of four mass deportations of Poles to Siberia. Taken are 240,000 of those who fled the Nazis, small merchants, doctors, teachers and journalists.

July 1-12 Gestapo deports to Auschwitz 80 Polish lawyers of the Polish Bar Association for refusing to disbar Jewish lawyers.

[StarvingStudent47]

In the words of Churchill's parrot...

F*CK HITLER!!! F*CK THE NAZIS!!!

[Kitsune]

@Marmot1:
Sorry to play the beancounter here. But those side remarks, titled "Blitzkrieg" exaggerate the German losses somewhat...and falsely state that German losses in the French campaign would have been lower. Well, at least in nearly all non-polish historybooks/websites the opposite is true.

You find a brief yet detailed reperesentation of the Polish campaign here:
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/polcamp.htm
Despite of the name it is an American site. There is also an extensive coverage of polish armoured vehicles on "achtungpanzer.com".
If you are interested in just about anything concerning Germanys Armed Forces of the WWII era there is of course this excellent site:
http://www.feldgrau.com
(also American).

Again I apologize marmot1...but you understand that I cannot accept the death of about 40.000 additional German soldiers ...not if I can prevent it. ;)

[Marmot1]

@Marmot1:
Sorry to play the beancounter here. But those side remarks, titled "Blitzkrieg" exaggerate the German losses somewhat...and falsely state that German losses in the French campaign would have been lower. Well, at least in nearly all non-polish historybooks/websites the opposite is true.

You find a brief yet detailed reperesentation of the Polish campaign here:
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/polcamp.htm
Despite of the name it is an American site. There is also an extensive coverage of polish armoured vehicles on "achtungpanzer.com".
If you are interested in just about anything concerning Germanys Armed Forces of the WWII era there is of course this excellent site:
http://www.feldgrau.com
(also American).

Again I apologize marmot1...but you understand that I cannot accept the death of about 40.000 additional German soldiers ...not if I can prevent it. ;)

Lost don't mean dead... :lol: remember that on every dead soldier during ww2 there were no less than 3 severly wounded that survived but were out of combat for months or years or even for the whole war
this source says that casaulties were 50000 and your souce says that


KIA/MIA, by Month
KIA | MIA

September 1939 16,436 | 375

October 1939 1,834 | 8

so ca 18500 KIA 400 MIA during campain
and
German WIA, Polish Campaign: 27,280

that is ca. 50000 so everything is OK



same with Luftwaffe airplanes, around 450 were clasified as damaged beyond repair after campaign altrough they returned to beses (this is from English source). sorry i'm lacking of time now but when I will have couple spare minutes i can post it.

and http://www.achtungpanzer.com/polcamp.htm

is not very reliable source, example: there is info that soviets lost only 42 tanks in polish campaign inn combat but only in atack on Vilno they lost 48 in one day (commander of unit which stoped them received Virtuti Militari (something like M of H) and citations to thoose medals were strictly checked before award was issued...

Also polish civilian casaulties are downgraded.... and military are upgraded... on your sites... p-)

[Kitsune]

Well, normally you should not put WIA's into the "Soldiers lost" category. Many wounded can and do fight again, so are not "lost".
The (usual Polish) claim that German losses during the Polish campiagn were higher than during the French campaign is not supported by any non Polish source I could find.

German KIA, Polish Campaign: 16,343
German MIA, Polish Campaign: 320
German WIA, Polish Campaign: 27,280

German KIA, French Campaign: 46,000+
German MIA, French Campaign: 1,000+
German WIA, French Campaign: 111,640

These numbers from http://www.feldgrau.com are consistent with other sources as far as I can tell.