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Javehn
08-28-2005, 03:08 PM
I blame . That was the name of the article written by Emil Zola , after Dreyfus affair . Dreyfus affair was the mark of that time , a "Kein mark" for our nation , which reminded us once again . No matter where we go , no matter what we do , we always would be feared , hated , demonized . Even on our own country . Here is my version of "I blame" , showing that nothing have changed sence the last 100 years . It came from reading the same rhetoric , time after time after time by different people , most of them are as clueless about my country as I'm clueless about their countries . The difference is , I don't write about their countries half lies , half inventions , half perverted semi truth .
It is important to me to write this thing , as there is an expression on Hebrew : " The watter came up to the sowl" . I write this as tommorow I head to inforce the brutal illegal occupation of Palestinian lands - reserve duty near Jericho to be more correct . Maybe I'll kill some innocent kids along the way , just for fun . After all , that's what we do best .

1)I blame - Opinions are like assholes , everybody got one - and when it comes to my country ,we can refrase that to "every asshole have an opinion" . You may not know where the hell it is on the map , care to learn some facts beyond the 2 liners everybody likes , know the most basic history of it .
Some guy on the forum didn't knew that Hebrew is written from right to left , other guy don't understand that jew is not religion , it's belonging to Jewish race . But they knew that it's written in the bible , that those Jews consider themself as the chosen race cause it's written in the bible (which probably they only saw in the store) , and those jews bellieve that everything on the earth belongs to them .
Some guy on the forum didn't knew that Jewish community lived in city of Hebron after Jewish diaspora - sence the time his ancestors were living in the cave . He had no idea that it's the oldest jewish community in the world , jewish nation founder Abraham lived there , and was barried there along with other Jewish nation forfathers and mothers . He had no idea about the Hebron massacre of 1929 . He did knew to say however , that "those Hebron settlers are the most fanatic , and crazy zealots living on this planet" . He did knew to repeat about Baruch Goldstein time after time after time , as if he is probably the most heroic person of the Jews .
And it goes on and on and on - the rain doesn't stops .


2) I blame - because we are blamed for every misdeed in the world . I blame , because it is shic and a fasion to blame us . I blame , because everybody are Israeli experts , country which you can't find on the globus and have one of the smallest population on the world , yet it's number one in the news , number one in newspapers , number one on the forum , number one on the street talk . And my country might be small as hell , but somehow it is more evil then the devil . That's at list what you say , middle east experts .
Forum members might not know , that Shri Lanka foreign affairs minister was assasinated by Tamil Tigers this month , and sence then the country is in the emergency state . His name was Lakshan Kidirgamar , but hey , who the hell cares ? It's just some tiny ass country in the middle of god knows where . Where the hell is that at all , ha ? So , what's in the news ? Oh yea , those crazy settlers gets evicted from their houses and they are puting a fight , those mad fanatics . Illegal occupators and religios zealots . I forgot to add - Sri Lanka population is bigger 4 times then Israel . But who cares .

This month China had a taiphoon which caused for 1.2 million Chinese people evacuation from their houses . I have the feeling that the collosal part of the forum members don't know about this event . What is one million Chinese more , what is less , ha ? And yea , the news site I've read that had a pole going on bellow this news event . what about this pole ? "After Gaza strip , what would Israel give up next ? " . That's right .
Mauritania had a millitary takeover this month . The president was kicked out from his power , and probably the next president would be the chief of police . You should have heard about that , it's freeking huge country !! Their population somewhat smaller then Israel thought . So I guess that is the reason there is no mentioning about this one , not here on the forum , nor the news . Strange ...

I blame - because of the story my father told me , He is a history teacher amongst others , just ask mack_pl :) . You all heard about the place called Ruanda I presume . In 1994 , two afric tribes , Tutsi and Hutu started to kill each other . UN indeed reacted quickly - they pull out their troops . After loosing tens of them , some leaders must have thought - who the hell cares , let them kill each other and may god sort them out . Belgian which should have felt some responsibilty for their former colony , soon were enjoying the UN Ruwanda peacekeaping mission ... outside the Ruwanda . In several month , Hutu killed about half a million Tutsi . HALF MILLION !!!
In those several monthes , in the begining of the genocide , UN security council had conveined . And they even had a resolution during that time . No no , not about the genocide in Rwanda , god forbid no !! They talked about it briefly , and then , they have passed to , offcorse, Israel -madman Baruch Goldstein have shoot Palestinian worshipers . Resolution number 904 . 904 , perhaps the number of Tutsi tribesmen that were lying dead that day in Rwanda , or perhaps the number of raped Tutsi women .


3)I blame - I blame for covering the conflict with such matter , No other conflict in the world passed with such unbellivable biasness to the audience back home . I blame for bellieving Palestinians levels more then Israelies . I blame when at work I see every day , every 10 minutes what the term "western imagination" means , and yet , you bellieve it and disqualify my words . I realised that apparantly , it is some sort of honnor for some Muslims to lie to Jews and about Jews , and it got something to do with lying during war time is not only ok , but it is also encouraged . Apparantly Muhamad have done it to some Jew named Kaab Ibn Ashraf in Kuraan .

I saw a movie several days ago . It was called "Gaza strip documentary " . It was filmed by some international volunteers who worked in Gaza hospital . I admire their cause and even courage . What I don't admire is : During their movie they videotaped a helicopter flare falling down and said that it's a neuro-paralising gas . Then later , they videotaped "suffery" of Palestinian people in hospital from this neuro-paralitic gas . Specially they focused on a kid shouting "I can't see , I can't see " , moving his hands and legs all over as he is going on some paralising state . And what really heart me when a doctor , French speaking doctor - not Palestinian , French !! described the exact simptoms as if they are infact simptoms of neuro paralising gas . She bellieved them . She bite it , swallowed it , drink it with wine and asking for desert . Yet they didn't displayed our side of the story .

And what is our side of the story ? A forum member said couple of days ago : " How many children have been killed by Israeli soldiers? Is throwing stones against tanks is a crime for which penalty is death? " . It wasn't thought one forum member . It was many many forum members . Count them is tasteless just like counting a sand next to a sea beach . What we said didn't mattered much to them , why to hear a point of biased Israeli person who just live in the sea of his own hate and doesn't understand the damage he inflicts by their unlawfull ocupation .
To answer to your question , as much as it worth - you might preffer Palestinian point of view more then mine . To start with something , I am not different then you . I have the same feelings as you . I am not an animal , I wasn't raised in hate athmosfere , nor I've read in the bible that we are choosen people who can get away with anything , and strangely enough , I somehow can feel a simpathy for Palestinians no less then you , my dear reader .
And no , we don't shoot kids who throw rocks to tanks . We don't shoot kids who come closer . How do I know that ? Simply enough , I have served 3 years of my life as a tanker so probably I know somewhat better then the middle east proffesors with their viewpoints and opinions about my country , thought they might claim otherwise . I have no point in lying , I don't bellieve in lying , and I usually don't consider lying to "infidels" as a Muhamad order .
Shooting as a way to establish perimeter zones came in IDF FIBUA armored doctrine as a lessons of "Geut Veshefel" events which preceeded the second intifada . Lessons learned the hard way . Palestinian kids understood very soon that the soldiers weren't shooting at them at all . It took media some time more . Until today that is .
A story about tank commander from my batallion . I don't even remember his name , but let's call him "commander M" . Well , this Commander M was in city called Nablus . Up to thousand people marched that day to his tank . Some started to get real close . Some started to clime aboard . Usually , and even the most liberal person would agree with me what to do on that case . This commander decided to do nothing . He was awarded by Israeli TV person "Nisiim Mashal" in his program as the human person of the week . In Palestinian newspapers he was described as a coward , and that he surrendered to Palestinian kids .
AFter 6 month , he was exactly on the same spot . This time , by accident he have killed a child , by accident . This doesn't change the fact that he terminated life of living human being , made entire family misserably . He killed . But he did it not on purpose . He didn't shoot on this girl because she was throwing rocks . He didn't changed from person he was 6 month ago . He is sorry about this event up until this day . Palestinian press called him a child killer on that event . They just didn't knew it's the same person who on that same spot decided not to harm anyone . And BBC was there .

This subject is specialy touchy for me . I can't stand when someone calls IDF soldiers "baby killers " . Killer for me is very strong word . When you accuse someone for being one , you have to make shure he is really one . So , when BBC crue filmed us driving over a car because Driver radio was disconected and he couldn't see the car , they said it was a mad act of occupation . They didn't said it was an act of accident . They didn't said that minutes later came guys with red berrets to videotape the damage in order to pay back the damage . They didn't asked us why it happened . They just assumed we are animals . So , I blame .
I can't stand when someone is badmouthing IDF soldiers , because no one mentioned that we gave our "36 combat ration" (or 26 ? ) to starving Palestinians . No one mentioned the IDF medics helping Palestinian kids . No one mentioned the Battalion commander who was killed by a sniper while helping school girls . That Swedish journalist with furious face while taping us , didn't taped when Palestinian sniper started to shoot us , just as a Palestinian ambulance came close .

That BBC reporter that stood 5 metter next to in the "Beit Hamagad" in Nablus was talking about the evil Israelies and their occupation . I could see the hate , same hate as you Europeans say you don't have just glowing from his face when he spoked about the evil Israeli occupation soldiers that shoot innocent cab driver down town . Same place we were 10 minutes before . He spoked as they videotaped tank passing over the cab . What more proof they need to show the evil opressing Israelies ?
I standed 5 metters next to him with a bandage . Even closer . He saw me , and looked for a second into my eyes . I stood 5 metters next to him with a bandage on my hand . And he didn't asked me why .
He didn't asked me why . He didn't want to know that it's not the cab driver we that got shoot , but a terrorist with a Chinese AK and 2 magazines that jumped from the cab . He was on his way to commit a terror act in the place called "Har Brakha" , and he was on his way to Nablus Kasba , to take his friend over . They planned to drive back then and start a shooting spray there , killing as much jews as possible . We shoot that terrorist as soon as he jumped from the cab and strarted spraying us with his AK . The reporter didn't mention all that . Instead they show a footage of a tank driving over a taxi . The tank commander which later was punished because of that .

I understand very much Palestinian suffery . Maybe I understand it more then other Israelies , because I lived in similar situation . But I am not ready that they show their suffery , as if I caused it , an IDF soldier . They know why I'm there , they know I try to make my best not to hurt innocents , they know and yet they still lie . They lie and journalists , TV cameras , you read it , you bellieve every single word . You don't bellieve me , an IDF soldier .
In my time in the army I was amazed , time after time after time about the unbellivable - you can't call it a bias , cause it is not a bias . Those are just plain , simple , bold , unbellivable lies . Lies about me and my friends . Lies about people who making shure that Israelies would sleap quit this night , and in the smallest price possible to Palestinians . I hate how they showed single cases of mistake , or idiot people as it was an IDF policy . I blame .
Many forum members chanted over and over line that almost seems to be their password . Israeli occupation did that . Those poor kids throw rocks because of Israeli occupations . They are going to blow themself because of Israeli occupation . I must be very confused person cause when I visited church of nativity in 1997 , I didn't saw single IDF soldier inside Beitlehem . My naighbour who travelled every week to Jenin Bazar haven't noticed soldiers inside the city . People who went to correct their cars inside Palestinian carshops didn't noticed any sign of occupation . That's might be just me halusinating , but it seems not one , not single person from the Europeans in here don't understand what does "Part A , B and C" means . Ment to be correct , from 1996 to 2000 there weren't single Israeli soldier inside Palestinian authonomy A territory . Not one . Nada . Non . Zero . Null . Sifir .
What occupation ? Look at every news bulletin about Palestine . You understand what the word "incursion" means ? It means that the soldiers went to place they haven't went before . So what outgoing occupation are you talking about ? The one that existing in your newspapers ?
Look when those incursion took places . After suicide bombings . Look where ? Yea , that's right . From the city the suicide bomber went from , where they have an active terrorist cell . We didn't went to Palestinian city because of the pure fun of killing Palestinian kids . We went to Palestinian city to make shure they wouldn't kill us from there once again .
I remember seeing one thing . A group of young kids started to throw stones . They throwed until and old man came out of his house . He took his walking stick and started to beat those kids leaving **** out of them . "Why on earth you are doing this" he shouted to them . Apparantly this old Palestinian man understand more then you , my dear European reader . Well ... Probably he doesn't know what best to him . My friend , he was in border police , told me identical story - some kids throwed rocks on their geep . They took him and asked "bwen saker ente ? " - "Where are you live ? " . He showed them his house . They came to his house , and said to his father "your kid was throwing rocks on Police car . HE could have been killed by a strey bullet" . My friend told me he never saw a grown man kicking his own son the way this dad kicked him . Somehow his dod knew it was wrong , yet for an average European reader it was just a kid's way to express themself against an occupation .


I hope that peace will come one day . But it will come when you stop hating us , you , and not Palestinians . They have the reasons , not you . From Palestinians I expect to speak the truth , not lies permitable by Quraan . Until then , I blame .

I have so much more I want to say , but I just don't have the time for even the half of it . Peace out , next time with pictures from Jericho .

roland
08-28-2005, 05:02 PM
It came from reading the same rhetoric , time after time after time by different people , most of them are as clueless about my country as I'm clueless about their countries . The difference is , I don't write about their countries half lies , half inventions , half perverted semi truth .


Said one of the biggest French hater of this forum who is the first to spread half lies , half inventions , half perverted semi truth about France.
STFU moron you have no credibility.

achilles
08-28-2005, 05:04 PM
Lets all take deep breahts now...meditate...and discover that supressed love inside us p-)

Miles.
08-28-2005, 05:06 PM
Lets all take deep breahts now...meditate...and discover that supressed love inside us p-)

Did it hurt the first time? :lol:

achilles
08-28-2005, 05:09 PM
Lets all take deep breahts now...meditate...and discover that supressed love inside us p-)

Did it hurt the first time? :lol:

:lol: they say it depends on the viscocity of the lubricant

Para
08-28-2005, 05:45 PM
When some writes a thread like that I always seem to have a look to see what country they come from and just what they have to say about them self's. I find it odd that the person who can go into some thing very deeply does not want to stand up for what he has written and put a few more details about them selfs on their profile.

Javehn
09-01-2005, 01:55 PM
It came from reading the same rhetoric , time after time after time by different people , most of them are as clueless about my country as I'm clueless about their countries . The difference is , I don't write about their countries half lies , half inventions , half perverted semi truth .


Said one of the biggest French hater of this forum who is the first to spread half lies , half inventions , half perverted semi truth about France.
STFU moron you have no credibility.

:lol:

I don't have something particular against France , dude .
Just against you ;)

thibaud
09-01-2005, 04:13 PM
i m 'sorry for you and for your father,for the whole world because we need good writter but you'are not going to be the next ZOLA

Erik2a4
09-01-2005, 06:23 PM
Javehn, I rather enjoyed reading it, and as an American soldier I can sympathize with the perils of media attention.

And Atlantic, I happen to enjoy France very much as well, and have received nothing but hospitality from the French ever time I have visited...

...well, except for the Parisian waiters, of course. ;)

So perhaps there is a middle ground.

Gallewicz
09-01-2005, 06:44 PM
Very nice post!

Marmot1
09-01-2005, 11:09 PM
Very nice post!

x2

gilgoul
09-02-2005, 03:37 AM
Thank you Jahven, once again, even if somewhat ackward, you hit the point.
The reactions of denial or personal attacks by some forum members just shows where we are standing.
BTW, just came back from reserve duty south of your AOO, was hot and dry, don`t forget your "shoresh" ;)

Javehn
09-02-2005, 05:28 AM
Thank you Jahven, once again, even if somewhat ackward, you hit the point.
The reactions of denial or personal attacks by some forum members just shows where we are standing.
BTW, just came back from reserve duty south of your AOO, was hot and dry, don`t forget your "shoresh" ;)

Yes , I'm not a Zola yet . :lol:

And it may be hot outside , but I'm a geep driver this time . I sit inside with an air conditioner ;)

Mailman
09-02-2005, 05:33 AM
Can I have the condensed readers digest version please :)

Mailman

Thor
09-02-2005, 10:11 AM
This thread is a mess. I accuse you of bad writing. Bye.

roland
09-02-2005, 10:38 AM
I don't have something particular against France , dude .
Just against you ;)

hypocrit.
Your writing is a respectable effort though I admit.

Atlantic Friend
09-02-2005, 11:49 AM
And Atlantic, I happen to enjoy France very much as well, and have received nothing but hospitality from the French ever time I have visited...

...well, except for the Parisian waiters, of course. ;)

If it was up to me, these guys would be stripped of their French citizenship or sent to Gitmo as a new psychological warfare weapons : the horrible caricatural Parisian waiters who manage to be rude, stupid, arrogant, dishonest, and self-righteous at the same time.

It makes me wince every time I see one of these wise guys being aloof with tourists. I really see their behavior as a personal slight, so in my perfect police state they would be sent to special camps to be taught better manners by crabby old ladies armed with umbrellas in reeducational "Salons de Thé". p-)

stephane from Paris
09-02-2005, 12:20 PM
difficult to judge them since it's a very hard work.

Ryo Saeba
09-06-2005, 12:50 PM
Hi, I must admise many parisian waiter are asshole, more in monuments area's, but it's a very hard job in a crasy city.

Ps: Parisian Taxi drivers are not bad too ;)

for the Half invention, in France is born the Cinematographe; la Photographie, le vacin... the Soap, la carte a puce (credit card) the explosion motors, the automobile... just few litle things...
@+
Ryo

Inconnu
09-06-2005, 01:51 PM
J'acuse
Tu acuses
Il acuse
Nous acusons
Vous acusez
Ils acusent

Weasel
09-06-2005, 01:56 PM
J'acuse
Tu acuses
Il acuse
Nous acusons
Vous acusez
Ils acusent

Good one. rofl rofl rofl

Inconnu
09-06-2005, 06:15 PM
rofl

trop fatigué pour mettre le
Double "c" ^^

gaz
09-06-2005, 07:07 PM
J'acuse
Tu acuses
Il acuse
Nous acusons
Vous acusez
Ils acusent

It's been a long time since I studied French (And I wasn't very good at it to begin with)

I accuse
You accuse
He accuses
We Accuse
They accuse
They accused
?