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ramy
08-31-2005, 04:45 AM
By SAMEER N. YACOUB, Associated Press Writer
32 minutes ago



BAGHDAD, Iraq - Insurgents attacked an annual pilgrimage by Shiite Muslims in northern Baghdad on Wednesday, killing three people and wounding dozens in a mortar attack. The town of Qaim near the Syrian border was reported to be deserted and quiet after a day of clashes between rival tribes and air strikes by U.S. jets.

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The rocket and mortar attack in Baghdad occurred as hundreds of thousands of people gathered at the Imam Mousa al-Kadim shrine in the capital's Kazimiyah district for the annual commemoration the death of the Shiite saint.

Four mortar rounds slammed into the crowd, killing three and wounding at least 35, police Maj. Falah Al-Mohammdawi said. A military statement said U.S. Apache helicopters fired on the attackers after observing the rocket launches.

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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050831/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
seruriermarshal
08-31-2005, 04:47 AM
5 killed .
BarkingSquirrel
08-31-2005, 04:49 AM
Ah, rebels. So that's what we're calling murderous terrorists this week.
Turhapuro
08-31-2005, 05:05 AM
Ah, rebels. So that's what we're calling murderous terrorists this week.

Real world rebels are not Star Wars-rebels (those gently and noble people using Force in good cause).

Main Entry: 1reb·el
****unciation: 're-b&l
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Old French rebelle, from Latin rebellis, from re- + bellum war, from Old Latin duellum
1 a : opposing or taking arms against a government or ruler b : of or relating to rebels <the rebel camp>

Main Entry: re·bel·lion
****unciation: ri-'bel-y&n
Function: noun
1 : opposition to one in authority or dominance
2 a : open, armed, and usually unsuccessful defiance of or resistance to an established government b : an instance of such defiance or resistance

Yes, it still looks like they are rebels.
ogukuo72
08-31-2005, 05:18 AM
"Insurgent" is another popular term with the media.
BarkingSquirrel
08-31-2005, 05:18 AM
Since when is launching mortars at CIVILIANS at a religous setting "fighting against the government"?
BadKarma26
08-31-2005, 05:28 AM
Since when is launching mortars at CIVILIANS at a religous setting "fighting against the government"?

fvckin a
BadKarma26
08-31-2005, 05:29 AM
those assholes are terrorists. plain and simple
duck
08-31-2005, 05:47 AM
From the "insurgent" standpoint the attack is logical as they view Shiite Muslims as a kind of subhumans, I believe.
Argyll
08-31-2005, 05:58 AM
Same way it was in Sarejevo back in the 90's........ :roll:

Sniper attacks on civilians,mortar attacks on civilians,it's ethnic fighting just so happens the Coalition are in the way with this one!
Inquisitor
08-31-2005, 06:25 AM
Same way it was in Sarejevo back in the 90's........ :roll:

Sniper attacks on civilians,mortar attacks on civilians,it's ethnic fighting just so happens the Coalition are in the way with this one!

why wasn't there Coalition in 90's :( ?

well I guess I'd have to open a new topic for this...
Holycrusader
08-31-2005, 07:03 AM
Terrorist in this situation is right term. I found word "terrorist" overused in present time, but in this situation (terrorist act) it will be OK.

But I still say BIG NO to call attack on armed occupation forces a terrorist act.

RIP to victims.
Turhapuro
08-31-2005, 09:42 AM
Rebels can be terrorists and terrorist can be rebel. WTF is so hard in this? Just like gunmen can be terrorists, rebels, criminals or all three at once.
BarkingSquirrel
08-31-2005, 05:04 PM
Rebels are only rebels until they purposely target civilians. They ceased to be rebels the second they dropped the first mortar in the tube. Here it is black and white. Here is no kinda-sorta-well maybe if. Murderous ****ing terrorists. Simple as that.
Laworkerbee
08-31-2005, 05:15 PM
Rebels are only rebels until they purposely target civilians. They ceased to be rebels the second they dropped the first mortar in the tube. Here it is black and white. Here is no kinda-sorta-well maybe if. Murderous ****ing terrorists. Simple as that.

X2

They knew damned well women and children would be hurt and killed, if that isn't a terrorist I don't know what is what anymore.
Turhapuro
09-01-2005, 04:40 AM
Rebels are only rebels until they purposely target civilians. They ceased to be rebels the second they dropped the first mortar in the tube.
WTF? Does bus driver stop being bus driver after he decides drive to crowd? What he drives if not bus? Terror-mobile? :cantbeli:

Stop that BS War-On-Terror-PC-talk.
BarkingSquirrel
09-01-2005, 05:28 AM
If he drives into them on purpose, yeah. Why are you trying so hard to defend those whose actions have no defence? The only reason these scum continue to exist is because even dumber scum like you keep excusing them.
CG51
09-01-2005, 05:58 AM
Go squirrel, its ya birthday! :D
Bulabash
09-01-2005, 08:16 AM
my take on the situation is terrorism is the attacking of non combattants to achieve a political goal, usually trying to make a population put pressure on its government to subjugate them to the terror group's goals.
Any organisation can make terrorist attacks one larger than the other whether it be legit governments (against other governments ) or partizan, freedomfighters rebels whatever the denomination of the group is.

As such the sniping of and mortaring of civilians on purpose is terrorism, bombing civilian population on purpose eg London blitz, dresden etc and using atomic weapons on nagasaki and Hiroshima (that one is going to be unpopular) would be termed terrorism in the current world.