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Schiller
01-22-2004, 10:33 AM
besides us Irish and the US?
thatguy96
01-22-2004, 10:41 AM
I think the "Ranger" term for various light infantry/elite infantry units has been adopted by many countries. Of course, what "Ranger" actually means from nation to nation differs quite a bit, but I'm pretty sure that the Filipinos and the Thai have Ranger units, and of course South Vietnam did. I'm sure there are other examples.
Dominique
01-22-2004, 12:15 PM
Well, the Irish ARW is a little closer to a LRRP or Special Forces unit than what the US calls "Rangers". If you go want to go by elite light infantry/raider/commando and LRRP type units , try this list:
ARGENTINA: Compania de Comandos 601
AUSTRIA: Jagdkommando
AUSTRALIA: 1st Commando Regiment, 4th Bn (Commando) Royal Australian Regiment
BELGUIM: Para-Commando Regiment
BRAZIL: 1º Batalhão de Forças Especiais (1st SF Bn -It has a Commando company that's similar a Ranger unit assiggned).
CHILE: 1st, 2nd,and 6th Commando Regiments (the 6th specializes in desert ops).
DENMARK: Jaegerkorpset (Raner/Hunters Corps)
EGYPT: Commando Brigade
FRANCE: 2e Regiment Etranger Parachutiste (2e REP), Groupement de Commandos Parachutistes (GCP).
GERMANY: Kommando Spezialkraefte (KSK)
GREECE: Idiko Tmima Alexiptotiston (ETA “Special Parachute Unit - Greek Army LRRP type unit)
GUATEMALA: Agrupacion Kaibil
INDIA: Para Commando Battalions (1st, 9th, 10th, 21st Special Forces Battalions)
ISRAEL: To Many to list
ITALY: Battaglione Alpini Rangers “Monte Cervino” ("Monte Cervino Alpine Ranger Battalion)
JORDAN: Royal Jordanian Special Operation Command (RJSOC) 81st Ranger Battalion
MALAYSIA: Grup Gerak Khas's (GGK - Special Service Group)21st Commando Regiment and 22nd Commando Regiment
NETHERLANDS: Korps Commando Troepen (KCT) - 104th, 105th, 108th Special Operations Companies
NORWAY: Fallskjermjegerkommandoen (Parachute Ranger Commandoes)
PERU: Batallón de Comandos “Comandante Espinar” Nº 19
PHILIPINES: Scout Ranger Regiment (SRR)
POLAND: 1 Pułk Specjalny Komandosów (1st Special Commando Regiment)
PORTUGAL: Centro de Instrução de Operações Especiais (CIOE) - the school also controls a command battalion.
RUSSIA: The military, the FSB (Federal Security Service - Former KGB), and Interior Ministry (MVD) all have a number of "Spetsnaz" units for raiding and recon missions.
SINGAPORE: 1 Commando Bn (Airborne), 10th Commando Bn (reserve)
SLOVAK REPUBLIC: 5. Pluk Specialneho Urcenia (5. PSU - 5th Special Forces Regiment)
SOUTH KOREA/ROK: Special Assault Regiments: 1 deployed by each Corp. They are basically light infantry and similar to US Army Rangers.
8th, 701st , 702nd, 703rd , 705th , 706th , 708th Special Assault Regiments and the 35th Special Assault Battalion for CDC
201st, 203rd and 205th Special Assault Brigades are special mission units that specialize in counter-infiltration warfare near the DMZ.
SPAIN: Mando de Operaciones Especiales (MOE)
-Unidad de Experiencias (Experience Unit)
-Bandera de Operaciones Especiales de la Legion (BOEL)
-Grupos de Operaciones Especiales Valencia III (GOE III)
-Tercio del Ampurdán IV
Reconocimiento/Sección de Desembarco Aéreo (RECO/SADA) Platoons (Pathfinder/recon)
*Unidad de Patrullas de Reconocimiento en Profundidad (UPRP - deep recon patrols/LRRPs) - Both are assigned to the Army's BRIPAC (Brigada de Infantería Ligera Paracaidista - Light Parachute Infantry Brigade)
SRI LANKA: Army Commando Regiment
SWEDEN:Fallskarmsjagare (Parachute Ranger Coy)
SWITZERLAND: Fallschirmaufklärerkompanie 17 (FSK 17) - beleive it or not, its an airforce unit.
THAILAND: 5th Long Range Reconnaissance Patrol Company, The Army maintains an airborne Ranger comapny. The Border Patrol Poice also have ranger units.
TURKEY: 1st Commando Brigade, 2nd Commando Brigade,
3rd Commando Brigade
UK: I'd have to say the Parachute Regiment, 16 Airmobile Bde. Pathfidner Platoon, RM commando battalions.
There are many more I'm sure.
simple jumper
01-22-2004, 12:34 PM
You cant forget us canucks!!! woot We ahve the Canadian Rangers, they defend the north, with ww2 rifles. Only because they work better in extreme cold that the C7. But they seem to be pretty hardcore they go out in -60 C to patrol. And alot of them have decorations for bravery.
Dominique
01-22-2004, 12:38 PM
Army they similar to the Alaska National Guard's "Eskimo Scout" units (actually native units of the 207th Infantry Group (Scout))?
seventy6er
01-22-2004, 12:44 PM
GERMANY: Kommando Spezialkraefte (KSK)
I wouldn't compare Rangers with KSK.
German equivalent in my eyes would be the Jäger-Btl's...
Kitsune
01-22-2004, 12:44 PM
In Germanys case the role of US Rangers is fulfilled by the new founded "Division Spezielle Operationen" (DSO) of which KSK is just a small part. The "Kommando Spezialkräfte" itself is structured, trained and equipped similar to British SAS or American Delta Force, not so much like Rangers or "Green Berets". The other DSO troopers are specially trained Paratroopers, some drawn from Recon troops, which have (among other things) the task to support KSK in a similar way US-Rangers support Delta.
OnTheRocks
01-22-2004, 01:39 PM
hmm ,we have coastal rangers and arctic rangers in Sweden aswell :)
mustamato
01-22-2004, 01:47 PM
hmm ,we have coastal rangers and arctic rangers in Sweden aswell :)
Kustjägare = Jaegers.
I´m not sure what the concept of Ranger means in USA, if is mainly a SForce or is a light and highly qualified infantry as Thatguy96 has said. In Spain, the units that fit the last concept of light and elite infantry units I´d say are two,
Tropas Regulares de Ceuta y Melilla:
http://www.regulares.com/patrona2003/07.jpg
And the Tercio de la Legión, which is formed by 3 main units: Brigada legionaria, who has full rapid reaction capability(Brileg, composed of the formers Tercio Don Juan de Austria and Tercio Alejandro Farnesio), and two other Tercios(Tercio Gran Capitan in Ceuta and Tercio Duque de Alba in Melilla):
http://www.regulares.com/patrona2003/08.jpg
Perhaps other spanish could explain better about spanish units, I hope.
Uncle Sam
01-22-2004, 05:18 PM
Ranger (n) : To roam freely
Marsuitor
01-22-2004, 07:34 PM
As far as it goes for Norway, anything with a "jeger" in it would be something more or less "special", but for the majority of our "jeger" units, it's still it's wrong to call them rangers, if you get my meaning. It's more of a word used when talking to, say, Americans to describe their work. Not regular, but not special either (in most cases)... There are quite a few units with "jeger" in it's name nowedays, i'll list them briefly;
Kystjegere, or Coastal Rangers/Marines. Battallion strength. Might be comparable to the RM Commandos in terms of roles, but the Recce Company of the mentioned unit is more like USMC Force Recon. Not fully operational yet, ready in 2005. As of now a conscript unit with one squadron going/gone pro i believe.
Fallskjermjegere, or Paras. Not paratroopers per se, as we only have one operational platoon consisting of conscripts. More like the British Pathfinders in what work they are trained to do.
Jegerbataljonen, what could be best described as the equivalent to the US Rangers. A battallion strength light infantry unit tasked in doing guerilla strikes, OP's and the such + minor other covert stuff. Also conscripts, but competition into the unit is quite hard.
Marinejegere, Norway's Naval special forces. All pro. About the same as the US Navy SEALS or SBS.
Spesialjegere/FSK, Army special forces. Again all pro. Can be compared to the SAS in terms of what they do.
Also every infantry battallion has a "Jegertropp" or a "Ranger Platoon" attached to it's support company to conduct longer distance recce. Also has sniper teams in them. Our national guard, or "Heimevernet" also has independant "Jegerlag" or Ranger Squads/Sections to do the above in a wartime situation.
Marxist203
01-22-2004, 09:48 PM
You cant forget us canucks!!! woot We ahve the Canadian Rangers, they defend the north, with ww2 rifles. Only because they work better in extreme cold that the C7. But they seem to be pretty hardcore they go out in -60 C to patrol. And alot of them have decorations for bravery.
The Canadian Rangers are an Auxillary unit. They act as scouts for the regular force in the event of Northern conflicts and do sovreignty patrols...considering the North Pole is a huge place and the Canadian Forces are so small, its quite difficult to secure it.
Jack Mehoff
01-22-2004, 10:42 PM
Power Rangers
http://www.metacritic.com/media/games/platforms/n64/powerrangerslightspeedrescue/picture.jpg
MARINO
01-23-2004, 05:54 AM
SPAIN: Mando de Operaciones Especiales (MOE)
-Unidad de Experiencias (Experience Unit)
-Bandera de Operaciones Especiales de la Legion (BOEL)
-Grupos de Operaciones Especiales Valencia III (GOE III)
-Tercio del Ampurdán IV
Reconocimiento/Sección de Desembarco Aéreo (RECO/SADA) Platoons (Pathfinder/recon)
*Unidad de Patrullas de Reconocimiento en Profundidad (UPRP - deep recon patrols/LRRPs) - Both are assigned to the Army's BRIPAC (Brigada de Infantería Ligera Paracaidista - Light Parachute Infantry Brigade
You have forget EZAPAZ, UOE, UEBC and all GOE and BOEL are under MOE command(MOE is like SOCOM)
This units are not like rangers they are like Delta Force or like SBS and SAS, in spain our "rangers" are specially Spanish Legion and for me Regulares are not like rangers they are a infantry regiment with a lot of traditions, but thy are'nt like rangers"
SO like rangers ein spain we have Mountain Rangers and Specillay Spanish Legion(whor have more capabilities than rangers)
marktigger
01-23-2004, 11:29 AM
depends on what you are using as definition of Rangers many of the Irish regiments of the British army sed the title Rangers and the current one pre dates the Irish ranger wing by many years.
http://www.army.mod.uk/ta/organise/infantry/rir/index.htm
****...i thoght about that...and in our army we have so much SP...
If you want the names just ask :D
*please ask* :D
not everything called commando equates to rangers, some are better some are worse, KSK are of course badass.
midgee
01-14-2010, 10:59 PM
Well, the Irish ARW is a little closer to a LRRP or Special Forces unit than what the US calls "Rangers". If you go want to go by elite light infantry/raider/commando and LRRP type units , try this list:
MALAYSIA: Grup Gerak Khas's (GGK - Special Service Group)21st Commando Regiment and 22nd Commando Regiment
Correction: Grup Gerak Khas is not Rangers. The Malaysian Rangers are Royal Ranger Regiment (Malay: Rejimen Renjer DiRaja; RRD).
More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Ranger_Regiment
Spliffer
01-15-2010, 12:34 AM
Jeez how's the size of this Tercio oke? He's like a good head taller than any of his mates
grendel
01-15-2010, 03:46 AM
http://www.regulares.com/patrona2003/08.jpg
It prolly sucks not to have chest hair...
Connaught Ranger
01-15-2010, 06:33 AM
And of course the word "Ranger" has to be examined in its historical significance,
the Continental U.S.A. had "Rangers" very early in it's military linage,
so too the British, with the 88th Regiment of Foot aka "Connaught Rangers" (1770 - 1920)
with the British Army, these however were trained and fought as a conventional Infantry Regiment,
whereas the "95th Rifles" for example came about from experience gained in the Americas, these were
lightly armed and trained to skirmish ahead of and on the flanks of conventional Infantry Regiments.
Connaught Ranger.
Connaught Ranger
01-15-2010, 06:36 AM
depends on what you are using as definition of Rangers many of the Irish regiments of the British army sed the title Rangers and the current one pre dates the Irish ranger wing by many years.
http://www.army.mod.uk/ta/organise/infantry/rir/index.htm
Outside of the 88th regiment of Foot aka "Connaught Rangers" in the British Army Esablishment between 1770 and 1920 what other units were known as Rangers?
Stonewall71
01-15-2010, 06:36 AM
Portugal - "Rangers de Lamego" - Special Ops Troops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfjosEXG_4w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibdgjOwwSC0
JUNKHO
01-15-2010, 06:43 AM
It prolly sucks not to have chest hair...
Just couldn't leave it alone could ya?
Spit coffee all over the keyboard. Sticky a hell tryin to type this. You'e goin to a hot place when you die don't you know!
LOL
grendel
01-15-2010, 08:20 AM
Might as well wear mirror lens sunglasses if you don't have chest hair.
But that's all I'm gonna say. These Legionnaires are obviously hard men.
Britishhawk
01-15-2010, 08:25 AM
Where 'Rogers Rangers' not the first British regiment of Rangers? They wrote the textbook for unconventional warfare & tactics, infact some US special forces units still study the 'Rogers Rangers Manual'.
Leaper
01-15-2010, 08:31 AM
Kustjägare = Jaegers.
The Finns have Coastal Jaegers, Sweden have Coastal rangers
Haell
01-15-2010, 08:38 AM
hmm ,we have coastal rangers and arctic rangers in Sweden aswell :)
and Airbase Rangers with CSAR (F17, FBJ) + Airborne (K3, LB Jägare) <- I believe I've read somewhere that the Rangers at K3 lost their status as "Jägare" and is now only LB (Luftburen = Airborne). -Is this true?
Leaper
01-15-2010, 08:42 AM
Yes it's true. They lost in 2006. The training is still the same so the soldiers usually get the "jägarbåge" (ranger patch).
junglejim
01-15-2010, 08:44 AM
Yep the Philippine Scout Ranger Regiment, the Philippine premier counter insurgency unit. The name itself strikes fear in the hearts of insurgents, fear only matched by the fear it strikes to our presidents. Since they have been part of several coup attempts.
GiladS
01-15-2010, 08:51 AM
In the IDF each infantry brigade has a reconnaissance battalion (GADSAR) which I guess are comparable to Rangers.
Connaught Ranger
01-15-2010, 04:11 PM
Where 'Rogers Rangers' not the first British regiment of Rangers? They wrote the textbook for unconventional warfare & tactics, infact some US special forces units still study the 'Rogers Rangers Manual'.
Rogers' Rangers was an independent company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_%28military_unit%29) of rangers attached to the British Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Army) during the French and Indian War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_and_Indian_War).
The unit was informally trained by Major Robert Rogers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Rogers_%28soldier%29) as a rapidly deployable light infantry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_infantry) force tasked with reconnaissance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconnaissance) and conducting special operations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_operations) against distant targets.
Their military tactics were so bold and effective that the unit became the chief scouting unit of British Crown forces in the late 1750s.
The British valued them highly for gathering intelligence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_%28information_gathering%29) about the enemy. Later, several members of Rogers' Rangers became influential leaders in the American Revolutionary War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War) and a large number of ex-rangers were present as patriot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_%28American_Revolution%29) militiamen at the Battle of Concord Bridge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Lexington_and_Concord).
Three military formations now claim descent from Rogers' Rangers:
The Queen's York Rangers (1st American Regiment) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen%27s_York_Rangers_%281st_American_Regiment%29) of the Canadian Army was formed from loyalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalist) veterans of Rogers' Rangers, including Robert Rogers himself.
The 1st Battalion 119th Field Artillery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Battalion_119th_Field_Artillery) of the Michigan National Guard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_National_Guard) is directly descended by an unbroken line to the 30-strong detachment of Rogers' Rangers stationed in Fort Detroit.
The U.S. Army Rangers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Army_Rangers) claim that they revive the traditions of Rogers' Rangers but have no direct line of descent.
MichaelF
01-16-2010, 02:09 PM
US Army Rangers were originally direct analogues of the British Commandos, from their inception in WWII on up through Vietnam. It's only after the emergence of the many-headed monster that is SOCOM that they moved away from their conventional shock-action commando function on the conventional battlefied (in support of larger units) into their current "SOF Infantry"/muscle role for SOCOM.
boone
01-16-2010, 02:20 PM
Thread is 6 years old. Happy Birfday thread!
Connaught Ranger
01-16-2010, 03:27 PM
Thread is 6 years old. Happy Birfday thread!
So does that means nothing can be added to open Threads?woot
ayanami_tard
01-22-2010, 06:52 AM
MALAYSIA: Grup Gerak Khas's (GGK - Special Service Group)21st Commando Regiment and 22nd Commando Regiment
those are sf
not sure about the real definintion of a 'ranger' but we(i mean malaysia) got royal ranger regiment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rejimen_Renjer_DiRaja
a total of 9 regiments of them rangers,with roots extends to the great days of headhuntingp-)
Irish
02-10-2010, 05:00 AM
Well, the Irish ARW is a little closer to a LRRP or Special Forces unit than what the US calls "Rangers". If you go want to go by elite light infantry/raider/commando and LRRP type units , try this list:
.
More so Special Forces..This Unit is officially designated 'Sciathán Fianóglach an Airm' , which is translated as 'The Army Ranger Wing'. There is no direct English translation of the term 'Fianóglach' so the designation Ranger is the accepted version.
The evolution of the Army Ranger Wing resulted from an increase in international terrorism in the late 1970s and 1980s. The kidnapping of politicians and businessmen as well as the hijacking of air and seagoing craft was of considerable concern to democratic governments. European and other countries realised that conventional police and military tactics were not suited to dealing with this escalating threat.
Ireland, a member of the European Community, was not immune from such incidents and recognised the need for a specialised anti terrorist organisation.
minotaur161
02-12-2010, 01:31 AM
New Zealand, Our S.A.S was named after our premier unit during the later New Zealand wars, late 1860s to but was disbanded in favour of special armed constabulary units and mixed Maori, European flying columns to take it to the Maori's who were adept at forest fighting, they were called the Forest Rangers, one of the better known unit's units was led by an ex Prussian officer with a colourful history including mercenary exploits in south America. Technically not quite a ranger squadron, I presume? as the unit that was named 1st Ranger squadron, SAS, was modelled almost identically to the British SAS, this unit served in Vietnam.
Backpacker
02-12-2010, 01:48 AM
Iranian army rangers, specifically, the 65th airborne are based on the US Army Rangers, originally receiving their training directly from them. Theres a video on youtube, which unfortunatly i can't find right now, which shows the two training with each other.
Independent of the 65th, there is a 'Ranger school', again modelled after the US ranger program, but isn't specific to any unit and is common course taught to the different "commando divisions/brigades" dispersed throughout the country, another mobile infantry group.
The first of these pictures is the general of the 65th brigade doing a base-jump off the Milad tower (it looks like the Seattle space needle) on Armed Forces Day in 2008. The second is a soldier from the 45th or 58th commando units on an exercise in June 2009, the ranger tabs visible.
AZZenny
02-12-2010, 02:11 AM
How do PALSAR differ from GADSAR, in Israel? I recall reading something about PALSAR Golani, and that it would be the equivalent of a US Ranger-level training infantry recon/scout unit in Golani Brigade.
vicka1971
03-28-2010, 05:41 AM
Hi there
I am new guy here. I now for sure Lithuanian army also have "rangers" Atskyrasis Vytauto Didziojo Jegeriu batalionas( Separate Grand Duke Vytautas Yeager battalion( LRRP) part of SOG of Lithuania)
Well, in Finland the 'Sissi' -troops are maybe a bit similar to rangers. (?)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sissi_%28Finnish_light_infantry%29
Well, the Irish ARW is a little closer to a LRRP or Special Forces unit than what the US calls "Rangers". If you go want to go by elite light infantry/raider/commando and LRRP type units , try this list:
BELGIUM: Para-Commando Regiment
There are many more I'm sure.
I would never call a Para-commando a ranger. I once made the mistake of asking one if he was the same as a Ranger. I nearly got my ass kicked :p
They do share some type of missions that they would do operationally, but they take much pride in the fact that they are Commandos and thus in their own mind a step higher on the ladder.
Breerman
04-06-2010, 05:09 PM
The Finns have Coastal Jaegers, Sweden have Coastal rangers
Swedish and Finnish use of the world "Jägare" differs. In Finland it's more in the line of regular infantry. Finnish Jägarbrigader/Jaeger Brigades corresponds to our old Norrlandsskytte i.e. light and mobile Infantry Brigades.
Swedish Jägarförband is normally translated as Ranger Units. In the original sense that might be correct whereas the modern US Army Rangers seem to be more in the line of elite infantry primarily involved in direct action in large formations. Our units in comparison operate independently and in small formations and are primarily focused on LRRP, direct action and raids deep in enemy held territory for an extended period of time.
tluassa
04-06-2010, 05:28 PM
On the history of the German "Jäger".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A4ger_%28military%29
Rangers>para commandos
Rangers aren't "commandos"
Rangers aren't "special forces"
Rangers = Rangers
Honestly rangers arent in the same league as these guys. They're in a league of their own! The modern ranger has gone through an evolution since The French and Indian War. The line between all Us sof is becoming very thin. Ex: Sf/seals/ranger/recon/usafsoc
Ranger in the eyes of many are they're own elite force! True warriors
The Ranger in WWII was a "super soldier" capable of practically anything!
The Rangers received their training at the Commando Training Depot at Achnacarry Castle in Scotland, where Commando recruits carried logs on their shoulders, learned hand-to-hand fighting, climbed cliffs, practiced amphibious assaults, had countless long-distance speed marches, and became skilled on a variety of weapons. Rangers followed a similar regimen, even using live ammunition to make the training close to real combat. One obstacle that each trainee had to overcome was the famous "death slide," for which men climbed a forty-foot tree, then slid down a single rope that was suspended over a raging river, all while under fire. They performed superhuman tasks/missions.
"Ranger" means many different things of course the creed stating
CREED
R ecognizing that I volunteered as a ranger, fully knowing the hazards of my chosen profession, I will always endeavor to uphold the prestige, honor, and high esprit de corps of my ranger regiment.
A cknowledging the fact that a ranger is a more elite soldier, who arrives at the cutting edge of battle by land, sea, or air, I accept the fact that as a ranger, my country expects me to move further, faster, and fight harder than any other soldier.
N ever shall I fail my comrades. I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong, and morally straight, and I will shoulder more than my share of the task, whatever it may be, one hundred percent and then some.
G allantly will I show the world that I am a specially selected and well trained soldier. My courtesy to superior officers, neatness of dress, and care of equipment shall set the example for others to follow.
E nergetically will I meet the enemies of my country. I shall defeat them on the field of battle for I am better trained and will fight with all my might. Surrender is not a ranger word. I will never leave a fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy and under no circumstances will I ever embarrass my country.
R eadily will I display the intestinal fortitude required to fight on to the ranger objective and complete the mission, though I be the lone survivor.
When the Chief of Staff of the Army GEN Creighton Abrams ordered the formation of the Ranger Battalions in 1974, he directed that they would be the elite, setting the standards for the Army. Maintaining a code of ethics, a Ranger philosophy to live by, the Ranger Creed written by CSM Neal R. Gentry would encompass this philosophy and would be the hallmark of the spirit, discipline, and duty of all Rangers in peace and war. CSM Gentry was handpicked to serve as the first CSM for the 1st Ranger Battalion. Still today, the Ranger Creed is a way of life; a guide for how Rangers conduct themselves. It is the source that binds through loyalty the individual to his fellow Rangers and to his unit.
they may not be the most "specialized", they may not have all the high tech gadgets, relaxed grooming standards, Doesn't matter....They are the "best"
There are many that
tote the name "Ranger" but few that hold that legacy, espirit de corps, the brotherhood that bonds these men together is legendary!
, my close family friend former 1/75th has cleared up many misconceptions and assumptions made on the 75th... One being "rangers support delta and their main role is an infantry/muscle for Us Socom." First off our family friend said he rarely came into contact with 1st-sfod-D(delta,cag,etc)guys. The myth that almost 70percent of the operators in "Delta" were former rangers is also very accurate. Also, Believe it or not there have been several instances when Seals have pulled security for Rangers. They do many different special operations thus being an Sof. Also they are not "infantry muscle" for USSOCOM thats what we have "infantry" for. Two of the many uses that the 75th is utilized for according to my friend overseas currently, is eliminating Hvts and special reconnaissance. They are the best thats why Rangers Lead The Way!
Stormz_STA
01-24-2012, 04:29 PM
Cgof, you're not a US Army Ranger, are you?
armored_diplomacy
01-24-2012, 04:34 PM
Interesting post, Cgof.
They're in a league of their own! The modern ranger has gone through an evolution since The French and Indian War. The line between all Us sof is becoming very thin. Ex: Sf/seals/ranger/recon/usafsoc
Flagg
01-24-2012, 05:37 PM
New Zealand, Our S.A.S was named after our premier unit during the later New Zealand wars, late 1860s to but was disbanded in favour of special armed constabulary units and mixed Maori, European flying columns to take it to the Maori's who were adept at forest fighting, they were called the Forest Rangers, one of the better known unit's units was led by an ex Prussian officer with a colourful history including mercenary exploits in south America. Technically not quite a ranger squadron, I presume? as the unit that was named 1st Ranger squadron, SAS, was modelled almost identically to the British SAS, this unit served in Vietnam.
The NZSAS trace their lineage back to Von Tempsky's Forest Rangers(he was originally a member of the Forest Rangers, but they were disbanded and he reformed them) that operated from 1863-68.
They also trace their lineage to more modern units such as LRDG, Attack Force Z, and NZ members of SOE like Nancy Wake.
It's my understanding that in 1963, the 100th anniversary of the Forest Rangers, the NZSAS changed their sand coloured berets to red and ADDED "Ranger" to their unit name from 1 NZSAS Squadron to 1 NZSAS Ranger Squadron.
A number of years later, the name Ranger was dropped and the beret colour changed back to sand.
As I understand it, the change back to sand coloured berets and dropping "Ranger" from their name was due to avoid inaccurate perceptions of their role compared with most foreign units with the moniker of "Ranger".
The NZ Army briefly developed and stood to a unit of Rangers called 1st Ranger Company in the very late 80's for a brief period.
I've just finished processing a bunch of old photo slides to digital and might share a few here soon on a dedicated thread.
I'm in the middle of trying to write my first article/book on 1st Ranger Company, NZ Army
So far I've managed to get my hands on:
*over 100 photos slides...most of which would be the only ones in existence
*original 1st Ranger Company NZ Army Handbook......would be quite rare and I'm not aware of any other copies
*original order for the formation of 1st Ranger Company...rare as rocking horse sh!t
*6 plank owners who served in it for interviews and working on the old Ranger Coy OC who is now rather important
California Joe
01-24-2012, 05:45 PM
Cgof, you're not a US Army Ranger, are you?
Either that or BrianT's kid brother....
ubermensche
01-24-2012, 05:49 PM
ok...this is quite some successful necrophilia.
But you're still a necrophile
Im non biased sir, I'm just stating known facts, not just some copy and paste I acquired from wiki!
RSone
01-31-2012, 11:54 AM
Regarding the list posted early in this thread: The Netherlands does not have rangers. While it is true that Dutch commandos emphasized long range recon during the cold war, their mission has since changed. NLSOF and MARSOF are obviously similar to the Rangers(and other US SOF/SF) with regards their tasks, but they aren't classified as 'rangers' in the us way, or even as light infantry, not to mention their training is much more stringent. The closest we have to rangers in the classical sense of the word(skirmishing light infantry) are Bull and Tiger companies of the Garderegiment Grenadiers en Jagers, an air assault batallion. 11 Air Assault Brigade approximates 75th Ranger in the tasks it has within the Dutch Army.
Royal
01-31-2012, 02:07 PM
UK: I'd have to say the Parachute Regiment, 16 Airmobile Bde. Pathfidner Platoon, RM commando battalions
The Royal Marines don't have batallions, they have Commandos (and a regiment - the Commando Logistics Regiment).
The Rangers received their training at the Commando Training Depot at Achnacarry Castle in Scotland, where Commando recruits carried logs on their shoulders, learned hand-to-hand fighting, climbed cliffs, practiced amphibious assaults, had countless long-distance speed marches, and became skilled on a variety of weapons. Rangers followed a similar regimen, even using live ammunition to make the training close to real combat. One obstacle that each trainee had to overcome was the famous "death slide," for which men climbed a forty-foot tree, then slid down a single rope that was suspended over a raging river, all while under fire.
There was rather more to comamndo training at Achnacarry than a few speed marches and a bit of battle innoculation.
They performed superhuman tasks/missions.
Balls - just like all the comamndo units they performed human tasks and missions with extraordinary skill and dedication.
The Royal Marines don't have batallions, they have Commandos (and a regiment - the Commando Logistics Regiment).
There was rather more to comamndo training at Achnacarry than a few speed marches and a bit of battle innoculation.
Balls - just like all the comamndo units they performed human tasks and missions with extraordinary skill and dedication.
Every military service member has skill, "balls",and dedication? Not sure what your trying to state here?
Corrupt
01-31-2012, 08:29 PM
Every military service member has skill, "balls",and dedication? Not sure what your trying to state here?
He meant balls asin bull****. They do not perform "superhuman tasks/missions"...mostly because they're human.
BrianT
01-31-2012, 09:27 PM
He meant balls asin bull****. They do not perform "superhuman tasks/missions"...mostly because they're human.
I can't stress that enough. SOF are not ninjas. It's not standard practice to slit throats and break necks. Small teams of dudes with their identities erased aren't sneaking off into the night infiltrating heavily secured facilities and taking on forces twice their size without some serious support.
He meant balls asin bull****. They do not perform "superhuman tasks/missions"...mostly because they're human.
I ment "superhuman" to be taken as a figure of speech.
Royal
02-01-2012, 03:16 AM
I ment "superhuman" to be taken as a figure of speech.
Try sticking to English - which you are clearly struggling with - and facts - which you are definitely struggling with - or better still piss off back to whichever chairsoft fanboi site from which you crawled in the first place.
Try sticking to English - which you are clearly struggling with - and facts - which you are definitely struggling with - or better still piss off back to whichever chairsoft fanboi site from which you crawled in the first place.
First off your grammar is atrocious, dont tell me what i am cabable of? Just saying dental over in the Uk is ever so nice! Also inbreeding! Second stop ranting on military photos.net. Some of you people really need to grow up. Also, shut the hell up and maybe put some boots on the line (slippers in your case)for your country. Just my .02 ;)
Mordoror
02-01-2012, 07:38 AM
^^
Uhuh
Son, you may be a suppadubbah ranger brother/son/fan/member
You have clearly a HUGE lack of situational awareness :roll:
^^
Uhuh
Son, you may be a suppadubbah ranger brother/son/fan/member
You have clearly a HUGE lack of situational awareness :roll:
You clearly have a nice firm booty;)
Royal
02-01-2012, 08:55 AM
First off your grammar is atrocious, dont tell me what i am cabable of? Just saying dental over in the Uk is ever so nice! Also inbreeding! Second stop ranting on military photos.net. Some of you people really need to grow up. Also, shut the hell up and maybe put some boots on the line (slippers in your case)for your country. Just my .02 ;)
Oh why can't we have the dumbarse of the week back?
Leaper
02-01-2012, 09:16 AM
What a ****ing douche. Glad he got smoked.
Swedish Ranger units
Kustjägarna (Coastal Rangers)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kustjägarna
Fallskärmsjägarna (Paratrooper Ranger)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallskärmsjägarna
Flygbasjägarna (Air Force/Airbase Rangers)
LuftburenJägare (Airborne Ranger)
Norrlandsjägare (Norrlands Ranger/ Army Ranger battalion)
Hmm, back in the day you said our Kustjägars have weird name.
Leaper
02-01-2012, 09:23 AM
They have. After all it's a Swedish name for a Finnish unit. Our Coastal Rangers are Rangers, your guys are like our Marine Infantry.
a Swedish name for a Finnish unit.
It is a german name for a finnish unit.
First finnish Jäger units were german trained
Connaught Ranger
02-01-2012, 09:35 AM
Connaught has Rangers
Had, short history, they started life in the 1750's were the 88th Regiment of Foot in the British Army, recruited predominantly from the Western part of Ireland, won many battle honors, during WW1 they were up to 5 Battalions, however immediate post WW1 some of the Connaught Rangers mutinied while on service in India at the perceived wrongs being inflicted on their kin folk back in Ireland by the Black & Tans, (the mutiny was mostly a sit down strike, except for a small misguided bunch who attempted to storm the Armory guarded by their officers, one shot and killed in the attempt, one an innocent bystander killed by a stray round over 30+ arrested the ringleader was Court-Martialed and sentenced to death by firing squad the others sentenced to hard Labour, in the Peace-treaty drawn up between the Irish Republicans and the British was an agreement to disband all British Regiments with Southern Irish connections, so the Connaught Rangers, The Dublin Fusileers, The Munster Fusileers, The Leinster Fusileers, The South Irish Horse laid up their colours and faded away into the annals of history.
Connaught Ranger.
SpecialElite
02-01-2012, 09:39 AM
They have. After all it's a Swedish name for a Finnish unit. Our Coastal Rangers are Rangers, your guys are like our Marine Infantry.
Finland has had jääkäris since 1917, and Sweden has had jägare since 1945.
Had, short history, they started life in the 1750's were the 88th Regiment of Foot in the British Army, recruited predominantly from the Western part of Ireland, won many battle honors, during WW1 they were up to 5 Battalions, however immediate post WW1 some of the Connaught Rangers mutinied while on service in India at the perceived wrongs being inflicted on their kin folk back in Ireland by the Black & Tans, (the mutiny was mostly a sit down strike, except for a small misguided bunch who attempted to storm the Armory guarded by their officers, one shot and killed in the attempt, one an innocent bystander killed by a stray round over 30+ arrested the ringleader was Court-Martialed and sentenced to death by firing squad the others sentenced to hard Labour, in the Peace-treaty drawn up between the Irish Republicans and the British was an agreement to disband all British Regiments with Southern Irish connections, so the Connaught Rangers, The Dublin Fusileers, The Munster Fusileers, The Leinster Fusileers, The South Irish Horse laid up their colours and faded away into the annals of history.
Connaught Ranger.
Does the Army of the Republic of Ireland carry on any traditions of the irish empire units at all?
Back in the days coastal jägers were trained in coastal jäger school similar to airborne school and were different from normal infantry and the name stuck. Name is nowdays in swedish since its swedish speaking unit.
Connaught Ranger
02-01-2012, 09:53 AM
Does the Army of the Republic of Ireland carry on any traditions of the irish empire units at all?
Sadly no, no trappings of the Empire were allowed since post War of Independence the treatment of Irish British WW1 veterans and WW2 Veterans has been disgraceful, in the last few years there has been a softening attitude with many locations in the country building memorials to the memory of those who served, but, there will always be a tiny minority of idiots who regards them as traitors to their country.:roll:
Connaught Ranger.
Leaper
02-01-2012, 10:06 AM
Finland has had jääkäris since 1917, and Sweden has had jägare since 1945.
I was speaking of the name Kustjägare but whatever bro
valtrex
02-03-2012, 09:20 AM
Well, the Irish ARW is a little closer to a LRRP or Special Forces unit than what the US calls "Rangers". If you go want to go by elite light infantry/raider/commando and LRRP type units , try this list...
GREECE: Idiko Tmima Alexiptotiston (ETA “Special Parachute Unit - Greek Army LRRP type unit)
...
Greece doesn't have Rangers, we have Commandos which are either Raiders (the Greek Καταδρομέας/Κatadroméas means Raider), Paras or Amphibious Raiders. Our first SF unit (Sacred Band) was formed in 1942 in Egypt in close cooperation with Stirling (hence the tradition). We did have Rangers in our Army (the name Ranger was coined Πρόσκοπος/Próskopos in Greek) for a short period but they were irregulars, mostly locals who knew the terrain and provided close reconnaissance, or Cretan volunteer bands who fought alongside the Army in the Balkan Wars.
ETA is simply the Greek LRRP unit.
The Royal Marines don't have batallions, they have Commandos..
Greek Commandos don't have battalions either. They form Moiras (the tradition of naming specialized battalion-sized units as Moiras (Μοῖραι) goes back to ancient Sparta, followed by the Byzantines and Modern Greeks).
BrianT
02-07-2012, 03:08 PM
Had, short history, they started life in the 1750's were the 88th Regiment of Foot in the British Army, recruited predominantly from the Western part of Ireland, won many battle honors, during WW1 they were up to 5 Battalions, however immediate post WW1 some of the Connaught Rangers mutinied while on service in India at the perceived wrongs being inflicted on their kin folk back in Ireland by the Black & Tans, (the mutiny was mostly a sit down strike, except for a small misguided bunch who attempted to storm the Armory guarded by their officers, one shot and killed in the attempt, one an innocent bystander killed by a stray round over 30+ arrested the ringleader was Court-Martialed and sentenced to death by firing squad the others sentenced to hard Labour, in the Peace-treaty drawn up between the Irish Republicans and the British was an agreement to disband all British Regiments with Southern Irish connections, so the Connaught Rangers, The Dublin Fusileers, The Munster Fusileers, The Leinster Fusileers, The South Irish Horse laid up their colours and faded away into the annals of history.
Connaught Ranger.
I have an ancestor that served in the 5th Battalion, Connaught Rangers in the late 1800s. Thanks for the bit of history.
Lurking
02-07-2012, 05:05 PM
The badasses of World War Two were the First Special Service Force made up of Americans and Canadians. Read about them and the things they accomplished. They were amazing.
Lurking
02-07-2012, 07:25 PM
I can't stress that enough. SOF are not ninjas. It's not standard practice to slit throats and break necks. Small teams of dudes with their identities erased aren't sneaking off into the night infiltrating heavily secured facilities and taking on forces twice their size without some serious support.
You shattered many dreams with this post. So heartless.
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