Commemorating 66th Anniversary of Invasion on Poland (W 56K)

[b.scheller]

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These ceremonies, took place on Thursday of the first of September. They took place at the Saxony Gardens (Park Saski), the place of the former Saxony Palace, which was destroyed during the war. The only remaining part of the palace, is the tomb of the Unknown soldier.

In case anyone wonders why, the Poles have always saluted with two fingers, is due to a tradition, which stems from the November Uprising of 1831. During the Uprising (when Poland, was under the partition of the three empires, the Prussian, Austro-Hungarian and Russian) a young officer, came to a senior officer, his hand had been mulled, leaving only the first three fingers, the salute to his general, had become a tradition, since then followed by the Polish Armed Forces. For a brief time, during the Second World War, when unfortunetly the West Allied Polish armed forces, were under the command of the British, the soldiers saluted the same way as the Brits do.

Quickly after the war, the tradition came back to be used. The tradition, is not alone to the armed forces themselves, as Polish boy scouts have long saluted in the same manner, although Boy Scouts of America do the same, the Polish boy scouts, have been heavily defined by their long para-military tradition. Thus, the way the Scouts salute in Poland, is not the same way, they salute in Canada or in America, although it may seem similar.

[mr nuff nuff man]

Is this is commemoration to German invasion or the Soviet invasion? Nazis officers saluted with 2 fingers.

[b.scheller]

Is this is commemoration to German invasion or the Soviet invasion? Nazis officers saluted with 2 fingers.


In the German army, both officers and Unteroffizier mit Portepee (Feldwebel and above) were saluted. The German hand salute is best described as a "loose" version of the British hand salute, the right hand is brought up closely to the outside, then raised, palm-forward to the visor or cap edge. The outside (heel) of the hand at a very slight angle away from the vertical with the hand loosly together and the arm horizontal to the elbow and angled to the visor. NEVER give the "Hitler Gruß" (Nazi salute).

I don't know, what you mean by Nazi officers. If you meant, agents of the SS or the Waffen SS, they gave the Hitler Salute. While the Wehrmacht, Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe, kept the traditional salute, which is listed above. Up until the assasination attempt on Hitler's life in June of 1944, where they were all ordered by new regulations to give Hitler Salutes to each other.

By the way, this is not a commemoration, in the sense of a happy one. It's a commemoration of the German invasion, how it brutalized the Poles, and how it threw the world into the second world war. Perhaps, if you don't know, the Soviet's invaded Poland from the east on September 17th.

[Xtoisè]

Is this is commemoration to German invasion or the Soviet invasion? Nazis officers saluted with 2 fingers.


In the German army, both officers and Unteroffizier mit Portepee (Feldwebel and above) were saluted. The German hand salute is best described as a "loose" version of the British hand salute, the right hand is brought up closely to the outside, then raised, palm-forward to the visor or cap edge. The outside (heel) of the hand at a very slight angle away from the vertical with the hand loosly together and the arm horizontal to the elbow and angled to the visor. NEVER give the "Hitler Gruß" (Nazi salute).

I don't know, what you mean by Nazi officers. If you meant, agents of the SS or the Waffen SS, they gave the Hitler Salute. While the Wehrmacht, Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe, kept the traditional salute, which is listed above. Up until the assasination attempt on Hitler's life in June of 1944, where they were all ordered by new regulations to give Hitler Salutes to each other.

By the way, this is not a commemoration, in the sense of a happy one. It's a commemoration of the German invasion, how it brutalized the Poles, and how it threw the world into the second world war. Perhaps, if you don't know, the Soviet's invaded Poland from the east on September 17th.

So Germans followed the tradition of the 2 fingered soldier too? Russians invaded Pooland in sep of 39? Hmm interesting. Can you tell me more about this?

[b.scheller]

Ask Polska Wrzod, he seems to be the one, who puts out absurd claims without any proof to back them up. As far as I'm concerned, the Germans did not give the two finger salute, they were full handed, loosely based on the British one. Hence this picture:

http://www.thatfortiesguy.com/6-10.jpg
German P.O.W's...
Or
http://www.joelsolomon.com/images/Anniversary/images/grandpa_1_jpg.jpg
or
http://home.online.no/~vestil/crete/invasjon/bruno%20og%20alexander.jpg
or
http://www.axishistory.com/fileadmin/user_upload/g/german-italian-in-athens.jpg

Mind you, he did say Nazi officers. Which, I have not recognized, the branch or unit, the nazi officers were in? Did he mean the SA? SD? SS? WAFFEN SS? NSDAP? Hitler Jugend? Or is he stereotyping, that all German officers, were members of the Nazi Party, or the NSDAP?

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

Is this is commemoration to German invasion or the Soviet invasion? Nazis officers saluted with 2 fingers.

WHAT???!!!

Do you hold a history degree, sir? rofl rofl rofl










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[Conga]

As far as I'm concerned, the Germans did not give the two finger salute

Thats right.

But the salute in the Bundeswehr is not the one you see on the WWII pictures.

[b.scheller]

As far as I'm concerned, the Germans did not give the two finger salute

Thats right.

But the salute in the Bundeswehr is not the one you see on the WWII pictures.

How much has it changed since the creation of the Bundeswehr?

[ulfgar]

So Germans followed the tradition of the 2 fingered soldier too? Russians invaded Pooland in sep of 39? Hmm interesting. Can you tell me more about this?
Hi.

Try this link to a very good article in wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_September_Campaign



Ulfgar

[b.scheller]

Hej Ulfgar!
Polska Wrzod i Xtoise, to byl ten jeden i sam debil.

[ulfgar]

Aha :)
No ,ale moze kogos innego to zaintersuje.

Pozdr.