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Avalanche
09-04-2005, 04:21 PM
Ok, well this is kind of a weird request, but here goes: I'm looking for a good picture to put on my study binder for my History class. Just post suggestions or pics please of what you think I should use, kind of, what are your favorite history-pics. For example, last year I had a picture of Jawaharlal Nehru (first PM of India) talking with Gandhi. Right now, I am considering things such as the Declaration of Independence, as well as this picture of a statue of Caesar Augustus:
http://images.agblog.com/albums/hamptons/Caesar_Augustus.jpg

Some things to keep in mind:
-try to keep it fairly high-res so it can be printed at a decent size without looking terrible
-I don't care what time/civilization, etc it pertains to
-I don't care if its an actual photo, a drawing, a painting, a picture of a place, a statue, etc.

Also, I will be taking a semester of Civil War as well as a class pertaining to Post WWII- US foreign policy, so images around those topics would be nice, but any time and place is fair game.

Thanks a lot for your help!

Telnyashka
09-04-2005, 04:56 PM
http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/albums/Russian/russians_raising_flag_in_berlin.jpg

EvanL
09-04-2005, 04:57 PM
*****WARNING****GRAPHIC******/WARNING*******


http://www.castlebar.ie/clubs/legionofmary/crucifixion.jpg

Telnyashka
09-04-2005, 05:08 PM
bad quality...

plus it isnt history...thats religion.

Bryson C
09-04-2005, 05:10 PM
*****WARNING****GRAPHIC******/WARNING*******


http://www.castlebar.ie/clubs/legionofmary/crucifixion.jpg

???? Huh. Not graphic and not military.

Avalanche
09-04-2005, 05:43 PM
I don't mind if it is not military, or if it is religious, because whether or not you are a believer, religions have had a huge effect on the course of history. Also, if you would, please post a small caption/description to your pictures so I know what it is about and cand find more information on it, thanks!

Tengu
09-04-2005, 05:46 PM
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jcapshaw/iwo%20jima%202.jpg

Avalanche
09-04-2005, 05:53 PM
Yes, I hadn't thought of Iwo, that's a good one. The one of the Soviets after storming Berlin is also quite good.

A few more things, if it's a famous photo (such as the Iwo Jima one) then you don't need to be concerned with getting a real high-res one, I can get one on my own if its a popular picture.

zulu261
09-04-2005, 05:54 PM
You all know em'...

http://www.160th-soar.de/images/aam.sized.jpg

http://www.160th-soar.de/images/alterhase.jpg

Yosy
09-04-2005, 06:15 PM
Not really a picture, but very striking: the thousand yard stare.



http://www.milhist.net/images/2000YardStare.jpg

Noob Brit
09-04-2005, 06:38 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1b/Yalta_Conference.jpg

The Yalta Conference. Kind of shaped the world for the next 50 years.

xoNxCx
09-04-2005, 06:48 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v329/nsdq_100393/plan_accordingly_911.jpg

Conga
09-04-2005, 06:59 PM
http://web.grinnell.edu/courses/his/f04/his238-01/Images/ASPECTSOFGERMANHISTORY/images/1871a.jpg

Versailles 1871, establishment of the German Empire :lol:

Scratcher
09-04-2005, 07:15 PM
As has been previoulsy posted, not a photo, but worthy I think all the same

http://litek.ws/k0nsl/detox/graphs/Girl.jpg

Story behind this.. as if anyone is actually intrested...

A Czech soldier murdering a little German girl, after he gunned down her siblings and mother. Czech soldiers can easily be identified, for it was they, who put on their uniforms and murdered German children & women, but never fought a battle with a German soldier. Surely the Czech people are the only ones in recorded history who have distinguisuhed themselves by producing an army made up exclusively of certified cowards and murderes but never of soldiers.

according to litek.ws/k0nsl/ detox/Czech1.html

I do not like that description... for the record

goldman
09-04-2005, 07:18 PM
Tennis Court Oath

http://college.hmco.com/history/west/mosaic/chapter12/images/tennis_court_oath.jpg
David has united members of the three estates in the foreground of this painting. Light streams in from outside and the hectic gesticulations of every member of this meeting all direct the viewer's eye to the central figure who reads aloud the Oath of the Tennis Court. In this oath, sympathetic nobles and clergy, along with the Third Estate, announced their attention to form the National Assembly and not to disband until France had a new constitution.

sp2c
09-04-2005, 07:27 PM
my favourite is from ww2 as well but I forgot to scan it and I forgot what book it was in (got it from the library)

it was during the german invasion of the Netherlands on the Grebbeberg (the main defensive line) after the fighting and it had a Dutch soldier and a german soldier sitting on I think what was left of a trench and the german soldier was sharing his rations with the dutch soldier (who probably hadn't seen food in days).

very strong ... but I can't find it anymore

Macs.
09-04-2005, 07:44 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/WWII_Poland_Invasion_1939-09-01.jpg


German troops, forcing the Poland border

MARINO
09-04-2005, 07:44 PM
I have a collection of pics from Spanish Chinooks after Gulf War in kurdistan. With Spanish paratroopers.
BTW You will never find them cuz they are personal pics.

Bryson C
09-04-2005, 07:51 PM
A German Panther tank passes a machine position.

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9580/germantank7mq.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=germantank7mq.jpg)

Holstein
09-05-2005, 03:27 AM
http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0107afinlandikrig61ul.jpg

Finnish troops in a trench during the winter war[/url]

Avalanche
09-05-2005, 01:17 PM
Ah thanks guys. These are all really good so far, please, keep them coming!

Just want to remind everone that this isnt limited to relatively modern military photos, anything about history really is fine, from any time period at all.

Thanks

Luno
09-05-2005, 01:35 PM
A photo off a young Hitlerjugend soldier.
when boys this young have to fight then the war is lost
http://www.br-online.de/bildung/databrd/natio2.htm/naz2b1.jpg

KramerIDF
09-05-2005, 01:59 PM
bad quality...

plus it isnt history...thats religion.

The Romans have been crucifying people way before Jesus.

b.scheller
09-05-2005, 02:38 PM
It's my own opinion, but posting photos of German soldiers, loses the whole context of the second world war. The brutality of it, the young Hitler Youth, or the image below, capture the true brutality of the Nazi Regime.

http://www.holocaustmemorialday.gov.uk/assets/images/imagelibrary/images/WL1012.jpg
Higher Resolution (http://www.holocaustmemorialday.gov.uk/assets/images/imagelibrary/hires/WL1012.jpg)
One of the most, influential works of art, of the 20th century. Depicting the bombing of Guernica, by the Kondor Legion (http://college-de-vevey.vd.ch/auteur/Picasso/guernica-init.jpg)
http://users.belgacom.net/avphoto/avion1/77401.jpg
Germans bomb Spain, during the civil war

Now my ode, to glorious communism
http://www.planorganic.com/photos/Gulag_fence_900.jpg
A gulag
http://glen.utdallas.edu/chernobyl.jpg
Chernobyl
http://www.ukar.org/holodomor/holod-006.jpg
Ukrainian famine
http://www.tparents.org/Library/Unification/Photos/Uph-1920/Members-BerlinWall.jpg
Berlin Wall
Tiananmen square (http://www.lilithgallery.com/articles/tianan06.jpg)

child soldiers
http://www.wraytimes.com/group27/child_soldier.jpg
http://www.soschildrensvillages.org.uk/sos-children-charity/sudan_child_soldier.jpg
http://child-soldier.org/rwanda_child_soldier.jpg

Others
Tuskeege Airmen (http://www.af.mil/media/photodb/photos/020903-o-9999b-098.jpg)
Enola Gay (http://teachpol.tcnj.edu/amer_pol_hist/fi/00000193.jpg)

grabie_bis
09-05-2005, 02:49 PM
two new worlds;
1492

http://www.fuenterrebollo.com/faqs-numismatica/Reyes-Catolicos/homenaje-colon-museonaval.jpg


1969

http://www.mikeslist.com/images/moon.jpg

Weasel
09-05-2005, 02:57 PM
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cchamorand/hist/images/1961.jpg

Telnyashka
09-05-2005, 03:02 PM
some good pics.

Someone needs to post a pic of the Stalingrad (or was it leningrad?) statue with the alligator and children.

Avalanche
09-05-2005, 03:11 PM
This one?
http://www.vonerik.nl/statue.jpg

It is Stalingrad if that's the one you speak of.

Thanks for all of these, and keep them coming for sure, I'd especially like to see some of older civilizations/events (Romans, Mongols, etc.) but certainly don't refrain from posting newer photos! thanks.

Telnyashka
09-05-2005, 03:12 PM
yes thats the one...very touching picture

Luno
09-05-2005, 03:14 PM
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cchamorand/hist/images/1961.jpg

I have that picture as a poster on my wall (= a really great picture

Rammy
09-05-2005, 03:18 PM
Don't have high res but :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/middle_east/03/v3_ip_timeline/img/pic_1973.jpg

Weasel
09-05-2005, 03:23 PM
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cchamorand/hist/images/1961.jpg

I have that picture as a poster on my wall (= a really great picture

Indeed. And one of the most famous pictures in Germany.

Luno
09-05-2005, 03:29 PM
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cchamorand/hist/images/1961.jpg

I have that picture as a poster on my wall (= a really great picture

Indeed. And one of the most famous pictures in Germany.

Yes i know mate . Do you remember the name off the soldiers?

Weasel
09-05-2005, 03:31 PM
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cchamorand/hist/images/1961.jpg

I have that picture as a poster on my wall (= a really great picture

Indeed. And one of the most famous pictures in Germany.

Yes i know mate . Do you remember the name off the soldiers?

Conrad Schumann :P

Digital Marine
09-05-2005, 03:48 PM
What's he doing? going to the other side of the wall?

Piotr
09-05-2005, 03:49 PM
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5858/finns17sy.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7852/finns27ne.jpg



(Significantly, aside from Britain, Finland was the only European country involved in the war west of Russia that was never occupied by enemy troops)
Finland didn't capitulate
POLAND GREETS FINLAND!

Weasel
09-05-2005, 03:51 PM
What's he doing? going to the other side of the wall?

He took the last chance of changing from east to west Germany before the wall was ready built..

K.W.S
09-05-2005, 04:15 PM
Mine:
http://www.pbs.org/weta/reportingamericaatwar/reporters/capa/images/photo2.jpg
http://www.pwhce.org/images/loan.gif
http://ww2rustc.www5.50megs.com/forward.jpg

Digital Marine
09-05-2005, 04:17 PM
What's he doing? going to the other side of the wall?

He took the last chance of changing from east to west Germany before the wall was ready built..

Powerful pic then! :)

Telnyashka
09-05-2005, 04:34 PM
Alexander Matveyevich Matrosov

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/10/Matrosov.jpg


On 23 February 1943, in the battle for the village of Chernushki near Pskov, Matrosov threw himself onto a German pill-box, blocking the machine-gun with his own body, to allow his unit to advance. For his self-sacrifice in battle, Matrosov was posthumously awarded the distinction Hero of the Soviet Union.

Hero woot

Kieffer
09-05-2005, 05:26 PM
http://www.napoleon.org/fr/img/zooms/object/452689_1.jpg

Kieffer
09-05-2005, 05:33 PM
http://www.historiasiglo20.org/IMAG/images/1975-198516.jpg

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,453168,00.jpg

goldman
09-05-2005, 05:40 PM
http://www.napoleon.org/fr/img/zooms/object/452689_1.jpg

Ahh yes napoleon crossing the alps woot

Dima-RussianArms
09-05-2005, 05:47 PM
October Revolution 1917 in Russia

http://xs45.xs.to/pics/05361/88.jpg

EvanL
09-05-2005, 05:56 PM
October Revolution 1917 in Russia

http://xs45.xs.to/pics/05361/88.jpg
was morpheus really there though?

Dima-RussianArms
09-05-2005, 06:01 PM
It is not Morpheus, you puny **** with no imagination, it's artists impression of Lenin.
:bash:

Kieffer
09-05-2005, 06:03 PM
Warning, Graphic Content

http://www.chorale-populaire-de-paris.com/IMG/jpg/dachau.jpg

Andeh
09-05-2005, 06:12 PM
http://www.historiasiglo20.org/IMAG/images/1975-198516.jpg

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,453168,00.jpg

....Gay marriage? :|

grabie_bis
09-05-2005, 06:21 PM
Mine:
http://www.pbs.org/weta/reportingamericaatwar/reporters/capa/images/photo2.jpg
http://www.pwhce.org/images/loan.gif
http://ww2rustc.www5.50megs.com/forward.jpg

x2

MARINO
09-05-2005, 06:22 PM
The pic of the Russian Officer and the german soldier in Belgium, are the best pic.

Kieffer
09-05-2005, 06:25 PM
http://www.historiasiglo20.org/IMAG/images/1975-198516.jpg

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,453168,00.jpg

....Gay marriage? :|

It's not funny. :bash:

Ryan94
09-05-2005, 06:27 PM
http://www.historiasiglo20.org/IMAG/images/1975-198516.jpg

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,453168,00.jpg

....Gay marriage? :|

It's not funny. :bash:

Yep, that was really a idiotic comment... :bash:

PeterG
09-05-2005, 06:28 PM
[quote="CoRe"]You all know em'...

http://www.160th-soar.de/images/aam.sized.jpg

This is a really, really good pic.I often wondered if this guy survived the war. He probably didn't, i suppose.He was an SS - soldier, and they suffered extreme casualties.This is a pic from the battle of the bulge, right?

Bryson C
09-05-2005, 06:41 PM
....Gay marriage? :|

It's not funny. :bash:

Yep, that was really a idiotic comment... :bash:

yes not funny at all.

CANsoldier
09-05-2005, 06:52 PM
As has been previoulsy posted, not a photo, but worthy I think all the same

http://litek.ws/k0nsl/detox/graphs/Girl.jpg

Story behind this.. as if anyone is actually intrested...

A Czech soldier murdering a little German girl, after he gunned down her siblings and mother. Czech soldiers can easily be identified, for it was they, who put on their uniforms and murdered German children & women, but never fought a battle with a German soldier. Surely the Czech people are the only ones in recorded history who have distinguisuhed themselves by producing an army made up exclusively of certified cowards and murderes but never of soldiers.

according to litek.ws/k0nsl/ detox/Czech1.html

I do not like that description... for the record


umm should that shouldnt be good :(

Noob Brit
09-05-2005, 07:02 PM
Mine:
http://www.pbs.org/weta/reportingamericaatwar/reporters/capa/images/photo2.jpg

Fake :bash:

Luno
09-05-2005, 07:10 PM
Mine:
http://www.pbs.org/weta/reportingamericaatwar/reporters/capa/images/photo2.jpg

Fake :bash:


I also remember reading in a history magazine about that picture where fake but as far as i know they couldn’t prove it to be so

Ding Chavez
09-05-2005, 07:30 PM
http://ericbaker100.tripod.com/WTC_flag.jpg

Conga
09-05-2005, 07:34 PM
Yep, that was really a idiotic comment... :bash:

cmon, it's just Helmut with this french guy :petting:
:lol:

EvanL
09-05-2005, 07:36 PM
It is not Morpheus, you puny **** with no imagination, it's artists impression of Lenin.
:bash:
no really?
you bumbling idiot.
you think i dont know the original picture?
when i saw what you posted ij ust figuired with you being as dumb as you are that you didnt even take time to look at the pic and realize that it is morpheus and not lenin!

Dima-RussianArms
09-05-2005, 07:42 PM
you bumbling idiot.
you think i dont know the original picture?
when i saw what you posted ij ust figuired with you being as dumb as you are that you didnt even take time to look at the pic and realize that it is morpheus and not lenin!

Well, I guess your sense of humour is proportional to your height ;)

So Evan, still a virgin?
You might want give midgets a try, seriously.

bloddyaxe
09-05-2005, 07:46 PM
http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t643/T643458A.jpg
The holy king, falls before fiends.... p-)

bloddyaxe
09-05-2005, 07:47 PM
ZOOM OUT!!
http://www-theory.chem.washington.edu/~hannes/Ice2000/FlateyjarbokZoom.jpg

Avalanche
09-05-2005, 08:59 PM
Could you guys please take the arguing elsewhere? Thanks.

And thanks for all the pics so far, they're all really great, at this rate, I'll have a new, good one every week!

Kieffer, I was looking for a good Napoleon pic, but perhaps one that isn't quite as famous? I guess Im looking for good pictures that not absolutely everone has seen before.

Also, anyone have any from earlier on in history (ancient history, etc.)? Of course, more modern ones are appreciated just as much. thanks

Avalanche
09-05-2005, 10:25 PM
Does anyone have a high res image of Conrad Schumann? I couldn't find one.

Also, if anyone has any high-res images of German planes bombing spain during the spanish civil war, I would greatly appreciate them (like this one, but bigger:

http://users.belgacom.net/avphoto/avion1/77401.jpg

Thanks! and keep them coming!

Kieffer
09-06-2005, 03:40 PM
More Napoleon pics, never enough.^^

1 - Bonaparte à Arcole
http://www.napoleon.org/fr/img/zooms/object/452695_1.jpg


2 - Bonaparte visitant les pestiférés de Jaffa
http://www.napoleon.org/fr/img/zooms/object/452693_1.jpg


3 - Le coup d'Etat de brumaire
http://www.napoleon.org/fr/img/zooms/object/452691_1.jpg


5 - Le sacre
http://www.napoleon.org/fr/img/zooms/object/452687_1.jpg


6 - L'Empereur législateur
http://www.napoleon.org/fr/img/zooms/object/452685_1.jpg

7 - La bataille d'Austerlitz
http://www.napoleon.org/fr/img/zooms/object/452683_1.jpg

10 - La retraite de Russie
http://www.napoleon.org/fr/img/zooms/object/448565_1.jpg

Source : http://www.napoleon.org/fr/essentiels/tableaux/premier_empire.asp

Kieffer
09-06-2005, 03:41 PM
And a famous one :

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/art-deco.france/IMAGES/picasso_guernica_.jpg

Kieffer
09-06-2005, 06:11 PM
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cite.chamson.levigan/images/images_pedagogie/cours/cadrages/vietnam2.jpg

PIMP
09-06-2005, 06:25 PM
http://www.dhm.de/lemo/objekte/pict/BiographieBrandtWilly_photoBrandtKniefallBubi/index.jpg

Kieffer
09-06-2005, 06:50 PM
http://www.brucesilverstein.com/Doisneau/Doisneau%20lovers%20in%20park.jpg


http://www.brucesilverstein.com/Doisneau/Doisneau%20General%20De%20Gaulle.jpg

Para
09-06-2005, 07:39 PM
HMS Victory
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b351/LeEnfield/91ad6c16.jpg


Napoleons Nightmare

Para
09-06-2005, 07:46 PM
The Duke Of Wellington Who defeated Napoleon time and time again.





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http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b351/LeEnfield/DukeWellington.jpg

gaijinsamurai
09-06-2005, 07:51 PM
One of my favorite paintings is of Marshall Ney leading the rearguard during Napoleon's retreat from Moscow. Anyone have a High-Res copy of that to post?

ABiH
09-06-2005, 08:33 PM
Ataturk
http://www.tourismturkey.org/regions/central/images/ataturk.gif
http://www.nvva.nl/renekrul/catalogs/bonfils.turkish.soldier.cdv.jpg
http://www.uaf.edu/english/faculty/reilly/NCHCproject/Resources/turks.jpg

Chulo
09-06-2005, 08:53 PM
how about that 1000 yard stare of the u.s Marine in Iraq?

MARINO
09-06-2005, 08:55 PM
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/1444/bravotwozero4wt.jpg

Mr.K
09-06-2005, 09:19 PM
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cchamorand/hist/images/1961.jpg

He had a miserable life in the west, and when the wall came down the moved to the east to see how his family and relatives were doing, and they all hated him.

MARINO
09-06-2005, 09:34 PM
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cchamorand/hist/images/1961.jpg

He had a miserable life in the west, and when the wall came down the moved to the east to see how his family and relatives were doing, and they all hated him.
Where did you hear that??

Telnyashka
09-06-2005, 09:45 PM
well to leave your family and relatives just like that, abandoning them is a bit ...selfish

Cruiser Aurora

http://www.vad1.com/photo/stock/n20-34-4.jpg

Doom
09-06-2005, 10:57 PM
As has been previoulsy posted, not a photo, but worthy I think all the same

http://litek.ws/k0nsl/detox/graphs/Girl.jpg

Story behind this.. as if anyone is actually intrested...

A Czech soldier murdering a little German girl, after he gunned down her siblings and mother. Czech soldiers can easily be identified, for it was they, who put on their uniforms and murdered German children & women, but never fought a battle with a German soldier. Surely the Czech people are the only ones in recorded history who have distinguisuhed themselves by producing an army made up exclusively of certified cowards and murderes but never of soldiers.

according to litek.ws/k0nsl/ detox/Czech1.html

I do not like that description... for the record

Good thing my relatives fled to america before the war, I would not want to be branded a coward.

Fulix
09-07-2005, 12:32 AM
Mine:
http://www.pbs.org/weta/reportingamericaatwar/reporters/capa/images/photo2.jpg

Fake :bash:

Here`s a great read about "Fake or True" subject in this Capa's photo:
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/database/capa_r.html

Worth take a look.

Cheers.

Peiper_76
09-07-2005, 01:46 AM
After the battle of Alesia, when Vercingetorix surrendered to Caesar...

<img src=http://www.sfusd.k12.ca.us/schwww/sch618/RomanLinks/vercingetorix.jpg>

I always felt for the fallen Vercingetorix.


However, the battle at Teutoburger Wald, between Arminius and Publius Quinctilius Varus, takes the cake. I just cannot find the painting of it that I am thinking of.

b.scheller
09-07-2005, 01:51 AM
And a famous one :

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/art-deco.france/IMAGES/picasso_guernica_.jpg

that one, has already been suggested ;)



As has been previoulsy posted, not a photo, but worthy I think all the same

http://litek.ws/k0nsl/detox/graphs/Girl.jpg

Story behind this.. as if anyone is actually intrested...

A Czech soldier murdering a little German girl, after he gunned down her siblings and mother. Czech soldiers can easily be identified, for it was they, who put on their uniforms and murdered German children & women, but never fought a battle with a German soldier. Surely the Czech people are the only ones in recorded history who have distinguisuhed themselves by producing an army made up exclusively of certified cowards and murderes but never of soldiers.

according to litek.ws/k0nsl/ detox/Czech1.html

I do not like that description... for the record

Good thing my relatives fled to america before the war, I would not want to be branded a coward.

I can't believe anyone would believe Pro-Third Reich propaganda. This article, is as stupid, as the stories I've heard from so many older people in Poland, who actually believed in some of that disinformation the Germans spread about people during the occupation of Poland.

I think, it's safe to say, that the Czech's were hardly involved in the slaughter of German children. You can safely bet, that the Soviet's did more damage to the civilian population of Germany, than any other country. The Germans in fact, were the most brutal on the civilian population of Europe, other than the Japanese, Soviets and Fascist Ukrainians.

Amerikosskiy_xyu
09-07-2005, 02:17 AM
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/7362/ghfthg7ov.png

ZeroZen
09-07-2005, 02:21 AM
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/7362/ghfthg7ov.png

i never seen a truck full of oranges..

StuntMonkey
09-07-2005, 07:40 AM
I'm not american, although I do sympathise;

http://www.nooniefortin.com/images/fire-flag-wtc.jpg

jmatucd
09-07-2005, 07:57 AM
It is not Morpheus, you puny **** with no imagination, it's artists impression of Lenin.
:bash:

you're kidding right?

umm

Digital Marine
09-07-2005, 08:01 AM
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cchamorand/hist/images/1961.jpg

He had a miserable life in the west, and when the wall came down the moved to the east to see how his family and relatives were doing, and they all hated him.
Where did you hear that??

He's wearing a DDR uniform tho.. or did the western German army wear the same uniform?

Ryan94
09-07-2005, 08:08 AM
[quote=Weasel]http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cchamorand/hist/images/1961.jpg

He had a miserable life in the west, and when the wall came down the moved to the east to see how his family and relatives were doing, and they all hated him.
Where did you hear that??

Well, I don't know if his life was miserable, but in '98 he commited suicide (he hang himself in a shed) because of family problems...

(source in german: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_Schumann)

stateofequilibrium
09-07-2005, 08:08 AM
This man's eyes have always impressed me..

http://www.kenanderson.net/educate/assets/images/robert-e-lee.jpg

http://www.aztecclub.com/biopix/lee-pb.jpg

zulu261
09-07-2005, 08:24 AM
This is a really, really good pic.I often wondered if this guy survived the war. He probably didn't, i suppose.He was an SS - soldier, and they suffered extreme casualties.This is a pic from the battle of the bulge, right?


Yeah, Ardennes offensive...probably he's dead now...

Digital Marine
09-07-2005, 09:46 AM
[quote=Weasel]http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cchamorand/hist/images/1961.jpg

He had a miserable life in the west, and when the wall came down the moved to the east to see how his family and relatives were doing, and they all hated him.
Where did you hear that??

Well, I don't know if his life was miserable, but in '98 he commited suicide (he hang himself in a shed) because of family problems...

(source in german: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_Schumann)

Not a very happy guy then :lol:

B25Hmitchell
09-08-2005, 01:52 PM
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/thumbs/239_1126198215_as17-134-20387hr.jpg (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/picpopup.php?ImgId=24652)


http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/239_1126198215_as17-134-20387hr.jpg

Blackburn
09-08-2005, 03:08 PM
I'm not american, although I do sympathise;

http://www.nooniefortin.com/images/fire-flag-wtc.jpg

Oh yes, this is a really good picture!

Good Bless America!

MARINO
09-08-2005, 03:15 PM
i see :

Please do not inline
Project Gutenberg images.
see:www.gutenbers.org/howto-link

So... nice one rofl rofl

Inquisitor
09-08-2005, 03:17 PM
i see :

Please do not inline
Project Gutenberg images.
see:www.gutenbers.org/howto-link

So... nice one rofl rofl

:) damn Gutenbergs...just a sec

Weasel
09-08-2005, 03:33 PM
I'm not american, although I do sympathise;

http://www.nooniefortin.com/images/fire-flag-wtc.jpg

Oh yes, this is a really good picture!

Good Bless America!

No insult, but this is very american. I guess you won´t see something like this in Europe.

MARINO
09-08-2005, 03:52 PM
Yep sad but true.

Weasel
09-08-2005, 03:55 PM
I am glad about it.

[AFSOC]
09-08-2005, 03:56 PM
http://www.nooniefortin.com/images/fire-flag-wtc.jpg

one of my favs

Hero1
09-08-2005, 04:31 PM
http://tucka.t35.com/pictures/wallpapers/famosos/doraemon/doraemon048.jpg

Raistlin
09-08-2005, 04:54 PM
http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/nazis.jpg
http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/ss.jpg
http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/camp.jpg
http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/hand.jpg

grabie_bis
09-08-2005, 05:16 PM
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/1444/bravotwozero4wt.jpg

good one :(

stateofequilibrium
09-08-2005, 05:33 PM
http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/nazis.jpg
http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/ss.jpg
http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/camp.jpg
http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/hand.jpg

Those are some damn powerful pictures. Especially the kid with the eyes in that concentration camp picture. Amazingly intense, sad, horrified, and hopeless all at the same time.

On a lighter note, can you imagine being a poor soldier in the middle and having to use the bathroom?

D.Ranger
09-08-2005, 06:19 PM
http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/nazis.jpg
http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/ss.jpg
http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/camp.jpg
http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/hand.jpg

Those are some damn powerful pictures. Especially the kid with the eyes in that concentration camp picture. Amazingly intense, sad, horrified, and hopeless all at the same time.

On a lighter note, can you imagine being a poor soldier in the middle and having to use the bathroom?

Careful with a post like that mate.. Some people might not find a photo group like that amusing at all... Catch the drift?

Bryson C
09-08-2005, 06:22 PM
Those are some damn powerful pictures. Especially the kid with the eyes in that concentration camp picture. Amazingly intense, sad, horrified, and hopeless all at the same time.

On a lighter note, can you imagine being a poor soldier in the middle and having to use the bathroom?

That’s the second time there’s been jokes about photos in this topic. This is not the thread for jokes.

Nugget
09-08-2005, 06:31 PM
http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/nazis.jpg
http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/ss.jpg

i dont know you about guys but i get this tiny bit of pride when i look at these pics ... its so strange ...

Smok
09-08-2005, 06:34 PM
http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/hand.jpg

Yes. That one is terrible. Everytime I see that photo I ask myself "WHY?". And I never find good answer.

Raistlin
09-08-2005, 06:48 PM
That’s the second time there’s been jokes about photos in this topic. This is not the thread for jokes.
Let's remember the words of our common modern day prophets


Monty Python:

"Always look at the bright side of life"

:D

&#1042;&#1072;&am
09-08-2005, 06:51 PM
http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/hand.jpg

Yes. That one is terrible. Everytime I see that photo I ask myself "WHY?". And I never find good answer.

"Whyyyyy!!"

Luno
09-08-2005, 07:03 PM
Russian troops sounder their weapons to the Swedish king after the Swedish victory in the battle off Narva November 20, 1700 .Sweden did have 8,140 troops the Russian did have 30-40 000 troops. Sweden lost only 667 men and the Russian army lost about 15,000 men, many of whom fled the battlefield, only to drown in the Narva River.


http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/9223/victoryatnarva9rq.jpg

kangur
09-08-2005, 07:38 PM
History picture request:

My favorite history picture is from the cover of Die Wehrmacht - one of the "Stalingrad" editions. On the cover is a Prussian officer with an empty MP38, looking forwards as he reaches with one hand for a fresh mag - being passed on to him by other men. The whole picture (it is a painting/graphic) is set in the ruins of a factory (presumably the Tractor Factory in Stalingrad) and has a very strong "last stand" sort of feel. If ANYONE has this picture I would be grateful if you could post it up.

Regards,

Kangur

Makaveli
09-08-2005, 08:15 PM
3rd Infantry Division - OIF 2003
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4296/3rdtankers5ze.jpg

Drako
09-08-2005, 08:32 PM
http://www.poland.gov.pl/ww2/ww2/zdjecia/83.jpg

Picture taken by 2nd Polish Corp after battle of Ankore.

http://www.poland.gov.pl/ww2/ww2/zdjecia/110.jpg

Soviets entering Poland in '39

Warning! Graphic! http://www.poland.gov.pl/ww2/ww2/zdjecia/122.jpg

Katyn, 1943

Inquisitor
09-08-2005, 08:33 PM
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/3781/muhammedulaziumekku2ky.png

EsoognomEhT
09-08-2005, 08:52 PM
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0141390557.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Cant find the real picture, but it shows it well.


and
http://www.nofear.org/Archives/Images/200306/simon1.jpg

The price

kayaker
09-10-2005, 11:10 AM
(Been 2 the berg, very stricking. Grapped me by the throat those people who sacrificed their lives for Dutch soil in vain.)

Noob Brit
09-10-2005, 01:00 PM
http://www.poland.gov.pl/ww2/ww2/zdjecia/83.jpg

Picture taken by 2nd Polish Corp after battle of Ankore.


Call me dumb.....but what is it? A tank on it's side next to a Nazi flag?

Digital Marine
09-10-2005, 01:13 PM
http://www.mirrors.org/historical/2001-09-11-World-Trade_Center/wtc/wtcboom.jpg

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/1362/wtc20cross6ya.jpg



I am glad about it.


Retard :fork:

Eudes
09-10-2005, 01:41 PM
No insult, but this is very american. I guess you won´t see something like this in Europe.

Obviously someone has not been to Northern Ireland. Or is that not part of Europe? More flag wavers there than I have ever seen. With over 40 million Irish-Americans I can see the connection :lol:

The point is: Your are wrong. There are very many proud Europeans who are not ashamed to be nationalistic and would no doubt raise a flag over the bodies (2752) of ones fellow nationals. Germanic and Scandanavian countries do not = Europe ;)

Digital Marine
09-10-2005, 02:50 PM
Well said Eudes

Weasel
09-10-2005, 03:02 PM
http://www.mirrors.org/historical/2001-09-11-World-Trade_Center/wtc/wtcboom.jpg

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/1362/wtc20cross6ya.jpg



I am glad about it.


Retard :fork:

A little bit out of context, isn´t it? Try again. :petting:

Weasel
09-10-2005, 03:03 PM
No insult, but this is very american. I guess you won´t see something like this in Europe.

Obviously someone has not been to Northern Ireland. Or is that not part of Europe? More flag wavers there than I have ever seen. With over 40 million Irish-Americans I can see the connection :lol:

The point is: Your are wrong. There are very many proud Europeans who are not ashamed to be nationalistic and would no doubt raise a flag over the bodies (2752) of ones fellow nationals. Germanic and Scandanavian countries do not = Europe ;)

Maybe you are right. But I am german and "we" would do it in a different way, I guess. That´s what I am proud of. ;)

Eudes
09-10-2005, 03:21 PM
Maybe you are right. But I am german and "we" would do it in a different way, I guess. That´s what I am proud of. ;)

And why are you proud of that, I find your statement somewhat contradicting. You praise the German people for not being flagwavers yet isolate Americans for doing so (in a somewhat demeaning way.) Is that not nationalistic in itself? Why not just throw your flag in my face? At least you wouldn't be pretending. Am I the only one who can see right through this? You are proud to be German, just admit it and stop pretending. Dont worry, it's healthy to be a little nationalistic. Now I better see you out there in force in June! woot

Weasel
09-10-2005, 03:33 PM
Maybe you are right. But I am german and "we" would do it in a different way, I guess. That´s what I am proud of. ;)

And why are you proud of that, I find your statement somewhat contradicting. You praise the German people for not being flagwavers yet isolate Americans for doing so (in a somewhat demeaning way.) Is that not nationalistic in itself? Why not just throw your flag in my face? At least you wouldn't be pretending. Am I the only one who can see right through this? You are proud to be German, just admit it and stop pretending. Dont worry, it's healthy to be a little nationalistic. Now I better see you out there in force in June! woot

As I said before my comment was not meant as an insult. Americans are very special, so should they. If we handly things different in Europe (or only in Germany) it´s not right or wrong, but different. And I like the less nationalistic way.

StuntMonkey
09-10-2005, 04:49 PM
[/img]http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/hand.jpg[/img]

Yes. That one is terrible. Everytime I see that photo I ask myself "WHY?". And I never find good answer.

Lately i've been reading the bestseller "Berlin" - and from everything I have researched I just can't find that answer myself. I don't anybody ever will beable to.

War is going to be, and always has been societies way of scraping the bottom of the barrel. With some much promise in the human race, the one thing people can think of is owning the most land and all that crap.

Descanso na paz

kayaker
09-11-2005, 10:25 AM
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4296/3rdtankers5ze.jpg

What happening here? Confusing photo at first sight.

khukuri
09-11-2005, 12:36 PM
http://www.rednews.org/clipart/marx/marx.jpg

http://www.nndb.com/people/946/000026868/che-guevara-sm.jpg

khukuri
09-11-2005, 12:42 PM
dont have highres


http://www.imisite.org/images/balkans_photo05.jpg


http://www.ritilan.com/archives/images/blogimages/083104-ww2-kamikaze-photo.JPG


http://www.edwardsamuels.com/illustratedstory/chapter%208/hindenburg.jpg

http://**************/rajoutsguerre/batiments/bismarck2.jpg

http://nsonline.com/titanic/images/titanic.jpg


VERY GOOD THREAD

kayaker
09-11-2005, 12:56 PM
http://library.thinkquest.org/18666/history/images/sunday/sund.jpg

Bloody Sunday

kayaker
09-11-2005, 03:31 PM
Whats the story behind it?

http://photoarts.com/haviv/bosnia/image/dying.jpeg

b.scheller
09-11-2005, 03:38 PM
It's an image from the Bosnian-Serb war, in this picture you can see the Serb paramilitary, with dead Bosniak muslims.

Thor
09-11-2005, 03:43 PM
http://www.rednews.org/clipart/marx/marx.jpg

http://www.nndb.com/people/946/000026868/che-guevara-sm.jpg
Great guys you got there..

The first one hated black people

The second one had child soldiers in his ranks that he killed if they did not follow orders

king_nothing100
09-11-2005, 03:50 PM
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5843/f1mq.jpg

kayaker
09-11-2005, 04:19 PM
Great one. Assault on Goose Green, no?

Hotshot
09-11-2005, 05:20 PM
http://img283.imageshack.us/img283/2103/imag13251wm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Belgian soldier at WO1 helping wounded comrade

http://img283.imageshack.us/img283/8702/73uc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Belgian SAS squadron WO2

http://img283.imageshack.us/img283/3488/3f04080u1aq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Thor
09-11-2005, 06:36 PM
No insult, but this is very american. I guess you won´t see something like this in Europe.

Obviously someone has not been to Northern Ireland. Or is that not part of Europe? More flag wavers there than I have ever seen. With over 40 million Irish-Americans I can see the connection :lol:

The point is: Your are wrong. There are very many proud Europeans who are not ashamed to be nationalistic and would no doubt raise a flag over the bodies (2752) of ones fellow nationals. Germanic and Scandanavian countries do not = Europe ;)
That's somewhat true for Scandinavia, but when it comes to having private flag poles on your property it's a whole different thing here. You see them everywhere.

Hydro
09-11-2005, 06:53 PM
Great one. Assault on Goose Green, no?

San Carlos landings, I think.

TALOS
09-11-2005, 09:34 PM
I found this great historical photo
http://members.shaw.ca/toppsy/crest.htg/yalta.JPG
;)

kayaker
09-13-2005, 06:49 AM
what was that topic called that started quite a while ago, it was something to do with post your most emotional war pictures of something. cant find it. Anyone?
You mean true war photo's? Where soldiers are shown injured and that the red stuff does exist.

Mr.JeburtO
09-13-2005, 08:49 AM
Most of my pictures have been posted, but i have a couple.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Mr.JEBURTO/picnic010ab.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Mr.JEBURTO/d-day.jpg[/img]

*fixed

kayaker
09-13-2005, 08:57 AM
great photos what nationality are the trench soldiers from.

Mr.JeburtO
09-13-2005, 09:12 AM
im not sure. But from the helmet and cap they're wearing i'd have to say Austro-Hungary or possibly Germany.

found another
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v187/Mr.JEBURTO/archivepicgravegrenades2ij.jpg

Raistlin
09-13-2005, 10:23 AM
http://www.nndb.com/people/946/000026868/che-guevara-sm.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8a/Famousphotoche.jpg

;)

VISTREL
09-13-2005, 10:46 AM
I found this great historical photo
http://members.shaw.ca/toppsy/crest.htg/yalta.JPG
;)

Awesome!! :lol: :lol:

ranman1
09-13-2005, 11:09 AM
http://1stmuse.com/album/portrait/alex62.jpg
Alexander about to lay the hack down, and Bucephalas.


http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/altdorfer/battle-issus/detail1.jpg
The Battle of Alexander at Issus.

kayaker
09-13-2005, 11:58 AM
http://www.rania.co.uk/dunkirk/images/na002061-sm.jpg

Evacuation at Dunkirk

dez000
09-13-2005, 12:12 PM
http://errance.lirano.net/IMG/jpg/bruges3_30.jpg

Jan Breydel and Pieter De Coninck, 2 Flemish men who played a big part in the war against the French and the battle of the Gulden Spurs in 1302.

khukuri
09-13-2005, 12:17 PM
http://www.guerrillalaw.com/images/mandela.big.jpg

http://jimallanstudio.com/IMAGES/Mother_Theresa%20.jpg

kayaker
09-13-2005, 12:18 PM
David Stirling founder of sass

http://www.sasrogues.co.uk/Origins/WWII/DavidSterling.jpg

Paddy mayne who would later command the British sass after Stirling was captured

http://www.specialoperations.com/Foreign/United_Kingdom/SAS/paddy.jpg

Havent been able to find any photo's of Lewis...

http://bunker.altervista.org/elalamein/lrdg03.jpg
Maybe on of the most famous photo's of the sass

kayaker
09-13-2005, 12:27 PM
battle of Travalgar

http://www.fuenterrebollo.com/FernandoVII/Ilustracion/trafalgar-churruca.jpg

http://www.patrickobrienstudio.com/maritime%20art/paintings/assets/Victory%20at%20Trafalgar%202.jpg

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/upload/img/Trafalgar-Dawn.jpg

Nelson:
http://www.artunframed.com/images/nov03/nelson2.jpg

Raistlin
09-13-2005, 12:59 PM
Definately off topic :| :bash:

Raistlin
09-13-2005, 01:14 PM
http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/WW2.jpg

That?

Drako
09-13-2005, 01:38 PM
http://www.poland.gov.pl/ww2/ww2/zdjecia/83.jpg

Picture taken by 2nd Polish Corp after battle of Ankore.


Call me dumb.....but what is it? A tank on it's side next to a Nazi flag?

*g* Photographer was standing in front of the tank driving on the flag. You understand now? (I couldn't be bothered to turn the picture just posted in the way it was taken)

khukuri
09-13-2005, 02:24 PM
http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Images/da-Vinci-Mona-Lisa-1.jpg


http://www.exrx.net/Images/daVinci.jpg


Peiper_76

wtf is wrong with you, do you want to ruin the thread, we got lots off those already

khukuri
09-13-2005, 02:26 PM
http://norman.walsh.name/2000/05/images/liberty.jpg

Johnny_H02
09-13-2005, 02:28 PM
PeterG wrote:

This is a really, really good pic.I often wondered if this guy survived the war. He probably didn't, i suppose.He was an SS - soldier, and they suffered extreme casualties.This is a pic from the battle of the bulge, right?



Yeah, Ardennes offensive...probably he's dead now...

I know he was in Kamphgruppe Hansen, other then that not much info.

shadower
09-13-2005, 03:28 PM
http://www.dijaspora.nu/images/s_vojnik.jpg

shadower
09-13-2005, 03:28 PM
edited;duble post

Digital Marine
09-13-2005, 03:39 PM
http://www.ranger.org/images/photoGallery/2003/iraq-soldiersPraying.jpg

http://www.pulitzer.org/year/2005/breaking-news-photography/works/warzone%20011.jpg

http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/3584/airborne068pd.jpg

Peiper_76
09-13-2005, 03:48 PM
Peiper_76

wtf is wrong with you, do you want to ruin the thread, we got lots off those already

apologies... too much coffee this morning :oops:

dangerclose
09-13-2005, 04:12 PM
bad quality...

plus it isnt history...thats religion.


it's both. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Was that not an event in human history? Roman historians would beg to differ.

WackyWoodChuck
09-13-2005, 04:25 PM
http://www.informationwar.org/wars%20gallery/russians_berlin.jpg

WackyWoodChuck
09-13-2005, 04:28 PM
http://www.informationwar.org/wars%20gallery/Abyssinia03.JPG
A government soldier trains on a heavy machine gun in manoeuvres round Addis Ababa.

WackyWoodChuck
09-13-2005, 04:37 PM
http://www.bryanskobl.ru/~press/PHOTOS/partis1.jpg

kayaker
09-13-2005, 04:42 PM
Is that not a B26?

lunny
09-13-2005, 05:25 PM
*****WARNING****GRAPHIC******/WARNING*******


http://www.castlebar.ie/clubs/legionofmary/crucifixion.jpg

WTF. thats not funny.. :fork: :-*$ stupid ass

JoGg
09-23-2005, 11:35 AM
http://img.photospit.com/jogg/Pics/MichaBaram.JPG

FIRST SOLDIER AT THE WALL, SIX DAY WAR
1967 - Micha Bar Am

rembert
09-23-2005, 12:21 PM
Raistlin wrote:


That?

it's a b-25 mitchell

for me i think it's my favorite
http://www.specialoperations.com/michaelyon.jpg
thanks to MEGR and zonk

Conga
09-23-2005, 12:29 PM
I find this very moving. I saw it in a magazine a couple of years ago but I don't have a hi-res version.

http://home.arcor.de/zwelch0r/013.jpg

fox mulder
09-23-2005, 01:32 PM
http://www.president.bg/img/paintings/veshin_big.jpg

2RHPZ
09-24-2005, 08:59 AM
Well, it´s difficult to set just one picture ... ie., I like this serie:

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/1369/444902292wmxdomph1te.jpg

Due to a sudden swell the plane veers to starbord upon takeoff. USS Altamaha,1943.

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4875/444902461dexweaph4ru.jpg

Plane clips the twin 40mm gun and loses its wingtip.

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4929/444441888vytlinph0gd.jpg

Plane ends up in the drink and pilot exits as it sinks. The pilot was picked up by a destroyer unhurt. The flightdeck of a carrier is an unstable runway and accidents are rare but they do happen.

2RHPZ
09-24-2005, 09:05 AM
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9936/445708494pjklfwph0xt.jpg

Carrier Pilots drop Depth Bombs
One bare-legged Nazi stands frozen while the other attempts to run forward. Note the depth bomb still falling in the lower left.
Hi(gher)-res (http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/561/445708494pjklfwfs5jy.jpg)

2RHPZ
09-24-2005, 04:04 PM
As has been previoulsy posted, not a photo, but worthy I think all the same

http://litek.ws/k0nsl/detox/graphs/Girl.jpg

Story behind this.. as if anyone is actually intrested...

A Czech soldier murdering a little German girl, after he gunned down her siblings and mother. Czech soldiers can easily be identified, for it was they, who put on their uniforms and murdered German children & women, but never fought a battle with a German soldier. Surely the Czech people are the only ones in recorded history who have distinguisuhed themselves by producing an army made up exclusively of certified cowards and murderes but never of soldiers.

according to litek.ws/k0nsl/ detox/Czech1.html

I do not like that description... for the record

So why did you post this description for all that? Strange to spread such infos about Czechs and then use a patch of Czech police CT unit in avatar ...

MARINO
09-24-2005, 04:40 PM
http://www.pulitzer.org/year/2005/breaking-news-photography/works/warzone%20011.jpg
The best one. A lot of message.

el_kab0ng
09-25-2005, 01:12 AM
It's an image from the Bosnian-Serb war, in this picture you can see the Serb paramilitary, with dead Bosniak muslims.

That picture was taken from the Crimes of War project (book)

The article that was included:


Paramilitaries
By Christiane Amanpour

In April 1992, Zeljko Raznatovic (a.k.a. "Arkan") arrived with his uniformed militia in the east Bosnian town of Bijeljina to begin a campaign that came to be known as "ethnic cleansing."

The town was practically undefended, and his forces set up roadblocks, arrested civilians, and went house to house seizing others. One witness saw three people get their throats slit at a checkpoint. Another saw a woman shot as she was eating burek, a cheese pastry. When Arkan was done, twenty thousand Muslims had either fled, been transported to camps, or were slaughtered.

Arkan headed a paramilitary group called the Serbian Volunteer Guard, later known as Arkan's Tigers. A paramilitary force is a legal armed formation that is not integrated into a regular armed force. The term paramilitary, which is not a legal term, covers militias, volunteer corps, and even police units taking part in armed conflict. They are lawful combatants under international law. This means they must be under responsible command, carry distinctive signs, carry arms openly, and obey the laws and customs of war.

Like other legal combatants, paramilitaries, if fighting in an international conflict and captured, are to receive the protections of the Geneva Conventions accorded to all prisoners of war. They are to be treated decently like anyone else detained because of the conflict, that is, protected from the dangers of war, given all the food and medical care needed, and allowed outside contact through the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). Like any other force, they cannot be tried for the mere act of taking part in hostilities as combatants, but can be interned as POWs until the conflict stops. But paramilitaries, like anyone else, may be tried for war crimes they commit.

Notwithstanding their often legitimate military functions, paramilitaries are routinely deployed by governments to preserve plausible deniability and to cloud the issue of command and control. Too often, paramilitaries provide a cover for governments intent on violating international law. They also protect political leaders from direct responsibility for war crimes. But their activities are sometimes controlled under public law, and they often operate in subordination to the regular army.

In the former Yugoslavia, paramilitary forces were the primary agent of criminal violence, murdering unarmed men, women, and children, raping and pillaging, and instituting a campaign of terror with the goal of forcing all non-Serbs out of territories that historically were ethnically mixed. As officially recognized armed formations, they are indisputably subject to international law for their role in alleged war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide.

A series of decrees established the role of paramilitary troops as the former Yugoslavia began to disintegrate. In August 1991, Serbia issued a decree regulating the enlistment of volunteers in the territorial defense, a paramilitary formation, which allowed volunteers to take part in maneuvers and training, thereby acquiring arms. In December 1991, the rump Yugoslav government established "volunteer" forces as an adjunct to the Federal Army. Arkan, a soccer promoter and café owner, was a close political associate of Serbian strongman Slobodan Milosevic. Already by that autumn, Arkan, with the help of a recruitment campaign in the state-owned media, had begun rallying unemployed soccer hooligans and criminals and training them at army facilities.

Arkan thus did not operate as a free agent; on more than one occasion he even took command. UN investigators determined that Arkan's forces worked in coordination with the Federal Army in eleven municipalities in Bosnia, and in three of those municipalities, including Bijeljina, Arkan was reported to be the leader of the joint operation to seize cities and expel their native populations. In Zvornik, at the start of April 1992, Arkan issued the ultimatum to surrender and then called in the army to begin the shelling. His trained army of killers and commandos moved into town in Federal Army vehicles. In black woolen caps and black gloves cut off at the fingers, they combed the city with prepared lists and assassinated leading Muslims.

Three years later, Milosevic referred to the volunteers as "bandits and killers." He said in an interview they amounted to "only a couple thousand" troops, and "were totally marginal in that war." The UN Commission of Experts said upward of twenty thousand paramilitary troops took part in the war and played a central role in the mayhem.

Musashi
09-25-2005, 04:31 AM
http://s95018925.onlinehome.us/WW2.jpg

That?

thats the one :) thanks
Is it taken somewhere near Hong Kong? I remember similar view from one of films about James Bond, probably Dr. No.

Léon
09-25-2005, 06:03 AM
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/8910/1945berlincapturedgermansoldie.th.jpg (http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1945berlincapturedgermansoldie.jpg)

HitlerJugend at Berlin, 1945...

Léon ;)

Taekwondo
09-25-2005, 06:37 AM
http://aurinko.krap.pl/artykuly/talvisota/wintwar4.jpg
The Mannerheim-line, which the russians still like to claim was as strong as the Maginot-line (and some claim that it was too strong to be broken without modern tactical nukes)

http://aurinko.krap.pl/artykuly/talvisota/wintwar8.jpg
The Raate-road. The divisions advancing there had full brassbands with them, ready to play the International in Oulu - but the only music was the gunfire from the forest. The 44. division was completely destroyed.

http://aurinko.krap.pl/artykuly/talvisota/wintwar10.jpg

Probably the most known picture in Finland from the Kollaa-front, where soldiers in nothing but hastily dug foxholes stopped the russian advance for the whole rest of the war, finally holding against 4 divisions with great amounts of tanks and artillery.

Umm-Qasr
09-25-2005, 08:32 AM
This picture is the one that defenitely has had the biggest impact on my life:

http://www.wisconsinwx.com/Fall.jpg