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D.Ranger
09-05-2005, 08:43 AM
Here is an article I came across. I was wondering if other people feel the samy way as Lekota...

'SA is safe'
http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_1765268,00.html



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Pretoria - South Africa's military was ready and able to protect the country against any conceivable threat, Defence Minister Mosiuoa Lekota said on Monday.

"South Africa is safe," he told reporters in Pretoria.

"There is no possible threat to this country that we can't respond to. There is absolutely nothing we cannot deal with."

Rejecting media reports of problems in the military, Lekota said the SA National Defence Force was capable of executing its core function - protecting South Africa from attacks.

Its support for law enforcement agencies and peace missions abroad were secondary roles, and not what its state of readiness should be judged on.

He questioned the patriotism of journalists reporting on supposed threats to South Africa due to military incompetence. Such reporting created unnecessary fear among citizens and could harm investor confidence and tourism.

The minister said a past decline in readiness due to ageing equipment has since been "stabilised'' through acquisitions.

The SANDF has for the past five years been building and equipping the air force and navy, and was now focusing on boosting its land-based defences.

He stressed the difference between the needs of the current defence force and those of its apartheid-era predecessor - which required a capability to attack its neighbours, then considered enemies.

"Today we are only getting ourselves ready for the unlikely event anybody attacks us. We have moved from being an outcast to being a trusted member of the (southern African) region."

By cultivating security in the region and on the African continent through its involvement in peacekeeping initiatives, South Africa was creating for itself an "armour of defence", Lekota said.

"Peace is a more important weapon of security than any number of guns you can have, just ask the Americans," he added.

The minister rejected any notion conflict-ridden Zimbabwe posed a military threat to South Africa.

"Militarily, Zimbabwe is not a threat to South Africa. It has no intention as far as we are aware and we are quite satisfied about that."

Issues such as illegal migration arising from Zimbabwe's troubled state was not for the military to handle but the responsibility of police and immigration authorities.

"We (the defence force) are there to kill the enemies of South Africa," the minister said.

Asked about the SANDF's state of readiness concerning natural disasters, he underscored the unlikeliness of a typhoon or hurricane hitting South Africa. "We mustn't overstretch our imaginations."

It was government policy not to budget for unforeseen problems but to focus on immediate concerns such as housing and education.

But there were sufficient resources to handle most eventualities, and a special budget for disaster management in the department of provincial and local government.

"Surely it cannot be expected of South Africa to put aside billions (of rands) on expectations of a hurricane or a tsunami. These things are not regular here."

The defence force of every country had to built on the basis of whatever threats it was likely to face, he stressed.

It would be a waste of money to have to maintain unnecessarily large numbers of equipment.

"South Africa must adjust her defences in keeping with the times in which she lives and in keeping with conceivable threats."


Personally, I sense that there are postive changes going, as we have been weaker... but I am still not satisfied... And did he forget about the Tornado in Mannenberg (98/99), or our ability to cop serious floods and mud-slides? (Lainesberg being the biggest)...

Can't wait for the Griffons to arrive woot[quote]

Echo7
09-05-2005, 11:29 AM
When I read that article in the paper this afternoon, I laughed so hard the coffe came out my nose!!
You must understand however, that the honorable defence minister resides on another planet!

D.Ranger
09-05-2005, 01:48 PM
Ja boet.... "Dis lekka in die Suid Afrika"...

Lets hope things get a bit better... Burundi boys might be coming home as well...

And I heard the Task Force boys were gonna get serious with that Adderley Street Bank heist a few days ago...

What do you guys think?

(wonder how many non-SA guys are gonna write in this post...)

Hellfish6
09-05-2005, 02:04 PM
How is it not true? I know the SANDF is a shell of it's former self, but I can't imagine your neighbors are much better off.

Echo7
09-05-2005, 02:43 PM
Yes well the STF negotiator sorted that one out nicely!! I have to say though, to watch the STF work is pure poetry in motion.

Hellfish, what I meant was that the MOD is out of touch with reality. The SANDF is not " a shell of it's former self ". It's a disaster. Period.
The Master at Arms of the S.A Navy is a close friend of mine and you won't believe the nightmares he has to deal with daily.
Hope that sheds some light, for more on the current defence situation google Helmoed Romer Heitmann.....

D.Ranger
09-05-2005, 04:44 PM
I hear many stories of the STF... My dad was intimately involved, so I hear about the good old days...

And a strong military is not based on who is stronger than who, but rather being able to cope with situations that concern the defense and well-being of its citizens. Although countries like Zim are not powerful, they are capable of causing problems... Whould YOU trust Mugabe?????

And how about assisting the police and emergency services in case of an "event"... ie natural disaster...

And I remember when the military rolled into Sea Point to clean up "West Africa" as it were... hehehehe..

Hellfish6
09-05-2005, 06:47 PM
Interesting news. Thanks!

colonel
09-07-2005, 05:08 AM
The biggest issue here is that the SANDF is gearing itself up for conventional warfare at a great cost but the real threat against our country is from within.

All the $$$$$ should be on gearing up our police force to fight crime and not submarines to fight..........err..........um..............ja well no fine!

baboon6
09-07-2005, 06:46 AM
The biggest issue here is that the SANDF is gearing itself up for conventional warfare at a great cost but the real threat against our country is from within.

All the $$$$$ should be on gearing up our police force to fight crime and not submarines to fight..........err..........um..............ja well no fine!

Exactly!

D.Ranger
09-07-2005, 09:49 AM
It is still important to protect our borders though. Priority number 1 that is...

If we cannot control who comes in and out the country, there is no way we can control what goes on within, as the bad element will always be trying to get in and out... Just think illegal immigrants, hijackers etc...

But I will never underestimate the need to get the cops up to scratch!

A prime example would be that of Central Africa, where rogue factions run free crossing borders raping and pillaging as they please... And how many coupe's have come from over the border...

And whom do you think is mining those diamonds in the DRC? def not the DRC themselves, thats for sure...

A strong military usually leads to economic stability... So we have a long way to go!