Unofficial "Iraqi's tasting it..." thread, update=

[D.Ranger]

Click here to watch Iraqivstank (http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Iraqivstank)

The video was filmed by members of a JTAC (Air Force Joint Tactical Air Controllers) in Tal Afar, a town west of Mosul. The JTAC was with a Marine Advisor Support Team (which was attached to an Iraqi unit to help with training. The Marines and the JTAC were ambushed by three hostile gunmen. The Marines returned fire, while the JTAC called in some air support. One of the JTAC troops set up a video camera on the front of their armored hummer, which they were using for cover.
What you hear is shooting back and forth. The metallic ping sound is enemy rounds hitting the hummer.

When one of the JTAC guys says, "just fired rifle" he means that the aircraft overhead has launched a Maverick missile. You can hear the missile approaching, and see it hit the vehicle that the anti-government gunmen were hiding behind.


Hehehe... Iraqi's gettin some....

[Nugget]

i think this has been posted before ... my question is why would they waste a Maverick at 3 iraqis?..

how much is a maverick these days hmm?

[Warrior(Spain)]

Great video woot woot

[D.Ranger]

If its a repost, I appologise... I'm still noob ;)

But worth a watch, hell ye!

[Michael RVR]

i think this has been posted before ... my question is why would they waste a Maverick at 3 iraqis?..

how much is a maverick these days hmm?

Last i checked they were about $65 k US but that may have changed. Cheaper than a Javelin ;)

I hadn't seen the video before, nice one. :)

p-)

[MSR]

i think this has been posted before ... my question is why would they waste a Maverick at 3 iraqis?..

how much is a maverick these days hmm?
Why not? They had it available to them at the time.
I'm sure the cost of a Maverick wouldn't put a dent in the US's budget.
Good stuff

[CG51]

cool vid, thanks.

[NicNZ]

I'm sure the cost of a Maverick wouldn't put a dent in the US's budget.
Puts a $65,000 dent in the budget, actually.

[sp2c]

better waste a maverick then a soldier

[Michael RVR]

I'm sure the cost of a Maverick wouldn't put a dent in the US's budget.
Puts a $65,000 dent in the budget, actually.

It depends on how you look at it.

For sure its better to expend the mav than the soldier (which would actually be worth more than the mav in money invested), and besides, they're already bought and paid for. ;)

[Laworkerbee]

better waste a maverick then a soldier

X10000

[MSR]

I'm sure the cost of a Maverick wouldn't put a dent in the US's budget.
Puts a $65,000 dent in the budget, actually.
Are you saying that for arguments sake? How so?
My point is that $65,000 would hardly be noticed in their budget?

[zonk]

id give up 65k just to save one of my soldiers lives......you can't replace friends

[Drunkensquid]

We used to order $50k circuit cards like nothing when I was in the Navy. $65k is just a drop in the bucket and it saved some soldier's life.

[gc]

i think this has been posted before ... my question is why would they waste a Maverick at 3 iraqis?..

how much is a maverick these days hmm?

Anyway they are pahsing out the maverick and replace them with the GBU-12 500lb JDAMs and maybe JCM. Why throw them away when u can use them.

[NicNZ]

Are you saying that for arguments sake? How so?
My point is that $65,000 would hardly be noticed in their budget?
Yes, was merely for arguments sake. While I agree complete that sixty five thousand dollars would be hardly noticed in terms of the overall budget, the "its nothing" attitude to govt spending is not a very sensible one in any country. Obviously, it is sixty five thousand dollars of American taxpayers money that will not be spent elsewhere. There is never "too much" money.

[sir-chimp]

We used to order $50k circuit cards like nothing when I was in the Navy. $65k is just a drop in the bucket and it saved some soldier's life.

I was talking to some P3 pilots at an airshow one time. I asked them how much it costs for the sonar bouys they drop and use one time. The said well we have some we called cadillacs because each one cost as much as a brand new cadillac - dont know if it was true but with the way we spend money I could see it.

[Telnyashka]

Why Mavericks? They could have used cheaper weapons...

but I agree with the guy with the Black Eagle avatar (didnt get a chance to check your name, sorry). Not caring about money is what will get you into a big trillions of dollar debt....oh wait...

[MacDaddy]

i think this has been posted before ... my question is why would they waste a Maverick at 3 iraqis?..

how much is a maverick these days hmm?
Are you sh##in' me? Hell, the gee whiz fun factor alone would be worth it. And think of the impact that had for any other dumbass Iraqi who was watchin from the sidelines..
'THAT'S Bull****, not me..uh uh..

[Drunkensquid]

i think this has been posted before ... my question is why would they waste a Maverick at 3 iraqis?..

how much is a maverick these days hmm?
Are you sh##in' me? Hell, the gee whiz fun factor alone would be worth it. And think of the impact that had for any other dumbass Iraqi who was watchin from the sidelines..
'THAT'S Bull****, not me..uh uh..


In the last 20 seconds of their life those terrorists were probably wondering, how come the US Soldiers would not come near them. rofl rofl rofl

[ZeroZen]

Oh..for god sake, military bought from the 99cents store and a wholesale 24 pack in walmart.

[sir-chimp]

i think this has been posted before ... my question is why would they waste a Maverick at 3 iraqis?..

how much is a maverick these days hmm?
Are you sh##in' me? Hell, the gee whiz fun factor alone would be worth it. And think of the impact that had for any other dumbass Iraqi who was watchin from the sidelines..
'THAT'S Bull****, not me..uh uh..


In the last 20 seconds of their life those terrorists were probably wondering, how come the US Soldiers would not come near them. rofl rofl rofl

the last thing that went thru their mind was probably their assholes rofl

[Drunkensquid]

i think this has been posted before ... my question is why would they waste a Maverick at 3 iraqis?..

how much is a maverick these days hmm?
Are you sh##in' me? Hell, the gee whiz fun factor alone would be worth it. And think of the impact that had for any other dumbass Iraqi who was watchin from the sidelines..
'THAT'S Bull****, not me..uh uh..


In the last 20 seconds of their life those terrorists were probably wondering, how come the US Soldiers would not come near them. rofl rofl rofl

the last thing that went thru their mind was probably their assholes rofl

rofl

[twest79]

old but still nice post :D

[Thor]

When thinking about cost you should know how many missiles/bombs that are just dropped into the sea, for safety reasons..

[coverteye]

You argue how many weapons are fired in war, and complain of the cost, although it saves lives.

How many do you think get fired in practice? Thats what you should be counting. Have a look at your countries training budget......

[Hydro]

"Expend ammunition like a millionaire and lives like a miser" etc etc.

[Tengu]

great vid. Any way to download it?

[D.Ranger]

No idea mate.... Not sure how to get it to a source to download... have any ideas?

[Miles.]

Can anyone shed any light on something?

It looks like the bomb landed in between buildings, but from the end, you can't tell whether the buildings were hit...but looking at the end over and over, it appears that the buildings weren't leveled. At least, they weren't leveled instantly... ;)

[Johnny_H02]

Damn that is crazy, better they spend the cash on a missile then lose another guy.

You really have to be stupid to go and start shooting at coalition forces, i mean there is no "They wont waste ordinance on us" crap cause ..... they most defenitly will.

[MSR]

Why Mavericks? They could have used cheaper weapons...
I don't think they would have had time to get the catalogue out and shop around for the cheapest support.
Maybe because it was available at the time and it would do the job, which it did

[Gauntlet]

Those terrorists... owned.

[sickofpretenders]

Obviously, it is sixty five thousand dollars of American taxpayers money that will not be spent elsewhere. There is never "too much" money.

Im sure it hurts to watch and hear some US soldiers use your entire military's yearly budged on a couple of insurgents they could have charged and bayoneted, thus saving $2.50 worth of ammo. What everyone else is saying is if you consider how much money is wasted in the yearly budged from clerical errors alone, using 65K to save yourself from risking your life needlessly is a pretty good investment.

You have to ask yourself 'what did the army buy the ordinance for anyway if it wasnt to be used killing the enemy?'

Good vid by the way, and if people want I can rapidshare a copy for download.

[Lupin]

can someone upload the file on rapidshare.de,,, my lan and the firewall sucks... Thanks..


;)

[Jurpula]

Great vid woot
And in my opinion it's cheaper to spend 65000 on a single missile than to loose a group of highly trained soldiers to few insurgents who are inside a building in cover from riflefire...

[sickofpretenders]

http://rapidshare.de/files/5005349/hOPrAYmAV.wmv.html

[NicNZ]

Im sure it hurts to watch and hear some US soldiers use your entire military's yearly budged on a couple of insurgents they could have charged and bayoneted, thus saving $2.50 worth of ammo. What everyone else is saying is if you consider how much money is wasted in the yearly budged from clerical errors alone, using 65K to save yourself from risking your life needlessly is a pretty good investment.

Your lips move but you dont make a lot of sense because you have launched a tirade about something different to what I commented on. Obviously you missed the point. I wasnt opposed to the use of the Missile. Sorry to take the wind out of your sails, champ. I was opposed to the attitude that "its nothing" when its obviously not nothing; its sixty five thousand dollars. Perhaps you enjoy paying tax. Good for you. Or perhaps you arent employed and dont pay tax?

[toad]

I have to agree that using mavericks to take out a armored $$$ vehicle is probably its best use, using it to take out three guys is not the wisest use. Those who are saying that they don't care anything about cost... its good they are not running the show by themselves.

here's just one source, but whichever figure is used, its good to know there are folks in the services who DO care about cost. Hopefully they are in positions of leadership.

"Warhead: Contact fuse, 300 pounds (135 kilograms); delayed fuse penetrator, heavyweight, 300 pounds (135 kilograms).
Unit Cost: $180,000"


If you blindly use high price weapons, with flippant comments, instead of a cheaper grenade, rocket, rpg or .50 cal that would get the job done, then there could be a problem...


and thats true not just in this war, but in almost all past wars. Not just ones involving the US.

a force that practices too much overkill, might not dodge the next budget bullet... :|

[LordHalbert]

Why are you folks bickering about the price of a Maverick missile?

Perhaps that's all they had at the time.

I'm sure a laser guided bomb could have done the job as well but may be it wasn't available at the time.

[panzerjager]

better waste a maverick then a soldier

Well put. Americans generally expend munitions to save our soldiers lives. As an U.S. taxpayer, I approve.

[NicNZ]

But would you care if they openly adopted a "I dont care how much it costs, theres plenty of money in the budget for us to burn" attitude? ;)

[StukaJr]

Iraqi's tasting a Maverick

Mmmm... Yummy Maverick p-)

[panzerjager]

But would you care if they openly adopted a "I dont care how much it costs, theres plenty of money in the budget for us to burn" attitude? ;)

it is already there.

[Laworkerbee]

Perhaps the nearest US aircraft available for support was carrying Maverick amd nothing else?. Are some of you going to say you wouldn't let an airstrike go forward because it would cost too much money?.

Your mens morale would suck thats for damned sure.

[RGRBOX]

65k sniper bullet... money well spent... I found myself laughing with those guys in the video... good video..

[sickofpretenders]

But would you care if they openly adopted a "I dont care how much it costs, theres plenty of money in the budget for us to burn" attitude?

I would hardly call calling in support when you are pinned down a 'dont care' attitude.

There a 2 things you obviously dont realise:

As mentioned before the munitions are already there. The would have been braught in for the war and they dont go home. The are already a write off. Better to be used saving lives than blown when america leaves.

Second, until you have been in a firefight you should probably shut up. If i was pinned down with rounds bouncing off my vehicle wondering when the RPG was going to come I would gladly accept the support. Do you think that when calling in fire the cost of the ordinance is discussed?

More importantly who are you, as a member of a country that boycotted the coalition to bitch on an forum about US soldiers using thier own countries ordinance?

[MSR]

But would you care if they openly adopted a "I dont care how much it costs, theres plenty of money in the budget for us to burn" attitude? ;)
Oh wow, it cost every American Taxpayer .0001 of a cent.
Good use of what's available

[D.Ranger]

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[ZoneOne]

how much is a maverick these days hmm?

Enough money to save lives!