We need to slow down

[Gauntlet]

High School education back in your parent's days was actually simple. Now we're forcing Calc down our kids throats! And chances are, many of those kids won't use Calc ever again (unless if they're engineers). Homework is a constant issue with kids now, and kids are dealing with way too much stress. But yet school are trying to cram more advanced topics into school and adding more and more class time.

Education is nice but childhood is disappearing quickly and earlier.

I think society is closing on a brickwall on how far you can educate people.

[MEGR]

High School education back in your parent's days was actually simple. Now we're forcing Calc down our kids throats! And chances are, many of those kids won't use Calc ever again (unless if they're engineers). Homework is a constant issue with kids now, and kids are dealing with way too much stress. But yet school are trying to cram more advanced topics into school and adding more and more class time.

Education is nice but childhood is disappearing quickly and earlier.

I think society is closing on a brickwall on how far you can educate people.

Are you serious?

[Gauntlet]

High School education back in your parent's days was actually simple. Now we're forcing Calc down our kids throats! And chances are, many of those kids won't use Calc ever again (unless if they're engineers). Homework is a constant issue with kids now, and kids are dealing with way too much stress. But yet school are trying to cram more advanced topics into school and adding more and more class time.

Education is nice but childhood is disappearing quickly and earlier.

I think society is closing on a brickwall on how far you can educate people.

Are you serious?

Education is becoming more advanced in basic education. Sooner or later, kids won't be able to take it all in. They'll be slaves to studying, and days of enjoying life will be over. They're getting close to that in Japan.

[Rictor]

High School education back in your parent's days was actually simple. Now we're forcing Calc down our kids throats! And chances are, many of those kids won't use Calc ever again (unless if they're engineers). Homework is a constant issue with kids now, and kids are dealing with way too much stress. But yet school are trying to cram more advanced topics into school and adding more and more class time.

Education is nice but childhood is disappearing quickly and earlier.

I think society is closing on a brickwall on how far you can educate people.

Well said.

[Deuterium]

:roll:

Oh man. Shut up and do your homework. Calc is good for you, especially AP Calc.

I took AP calc and AP History my senior year. I never went to college. I'm a Green Beret. I've used that stuff over the years many times, hell even Boolean algebra. Take it from me, you don't have a clue what you will or won't use in your future. Consider yourself lucky all you have to do is study for a living. Now log off and get back to the books before some Eurowussy post statistics on how America is at the bottom of the bucket for math and science.

[askDNA]

:roll:

Oh man. Shut up and do your homework. Calc is good for you, especially AP Calc.

I took AP calc and AP History my senior year. I never went to college. I'm a Green Beret. I've used that stuff over the years many times, hell even Boolean algebra. Take it from me, you don't have a clue what you will or won't use in your future. Consider yourself lucky all you have to do is study for a living. Now log off and get back to the books before some Eurowussy post statistics on how America is at the bottom of the bucket for math and science.

:D

[Flagg]

:roll:

Oh man. Shut up and do your homework. Calc is good for you, especially AP Calc.

I took AP calc and AP History my senior year. I never went to college. I'm a Green Beret. I've used that stuff over the years many times, hell even Boolean algebra. Take it from me, you don't have a clue what you will or won't use in your future. Consider yourself lucky all you have to do is study for a living. Now log off and get back to the books before some Eurowussy post statistics on how America is at the bottom of the bucket for math and science.

Well said.......

My sister is a teacher, she'd probably beat some sense into you if you told her that.

There's PLENTY of time to have fun AND learn.

In fact, you may be amazed by this, but it's possible to do both at the same time.

If there is a SINGLE subject that kids graduate with insufficient skills is math.

I use math constantly at home, fixing crap around the house, family budgets, hell, even buying bulk dipers and baby formula per size/age category for my son.

In business, I'd be bankrupt if I didn't acquire sufficient math/accounting skills for use in corporate finance, sales, inventory, and marketing analysis. By spending about 8 hours a week playing wth spreadsheets in my pajamas, I usually get the rest of the week off.......math gives me the time to spend time with my son, have fun, and take a lot of naps

As a cut lunch commando I use it in land nav, maintaining awareness of my ammunition state, and even something as simple as keeping track of my pers.

Math is a language and we live in a society where the successful are ALL fluent.

[Rifleman]

:roll:

Oh man. Shut up and do your homework. Calc is good for you, especially AP Calc.

I took AP calc and AP History my senior year. I never went to college. I'm a Green Beret. I've used that stuff over the years many times, hell even Boolean algebra. Take it from me, you don't have a clue what you will or won't use in your future. Consider yourself lucky all you have to do is study for a living. Now log off and get back to the books before some Eurowussy post statistics on how America is at the bottom of the bucket for math and science.

Well said.......

My sister is a teacher, she'd probably beat some sense into you if you told her that.

There's PLENTY of time to have fun AND learn.

In fact, you may be amazed by this, but it's possible to do both at the same time.

If there is a SINGLE subject that kids graduate with insufficient skills is math.

I use math constantly at home, fixing crap around the house, family budgets, hell, even buying bulk dipers and baby formula per size/age category for my son.

In business, I'd be bankrupt if I didn't acquire sufficient math/accounting skills for use in corporate finance, sales, inventory, and marketing analysis. By spending about 8 hours a week playing wth spreadsheets in my pajamas, I usually get the rest of the week off.......math gives me the time to spend time with my son, have fun, and take a lot of naps.

As a cut lunch commando I use it in land nav, maintaining awareness of my ammunition state, and even something as simple as keeping track of my pers.

Math is a language and we live in a society where the successful are ALL fluent.

X2,

At your age the future is wide open, dream big.


and take a lot of naps. lol, very important when you get old.

[Mark Sman]

Calc used to be standard, unless you were in a "special" program.

Less whining, more studying.

Oh, and get a job.

[Miles.]

High School education back in your parent's days was actually simple. Now we're forcing Calc down our kids throats! And chances are, many of those kids won't use Calc ever again (unless if they're engineers). Homework is a constant issue with kids now, and kids are dealing with way too much stress. But yet school are trying to cram more advanced topics into school and adding more and more class time.

Education is nice but childhood is disappearing quickly and earlier.

I think society is closing on a brickwall on how far you can educate people.

rofl rofl rofl

I graduated high school two years early. And I didn't have to do ****...

Stop whining. You live better than 95% of the world. You don't know what stress is.

Turn off "the OC" and do what is expected of you.

Sign 'er off!

[MEGR]

High School education back in your parent's days was actually simple. Now we're forcing Calc down our kids throats! And chances are, many of those kids won't use Calc ever again (unless if they're engineers). Homework is a constant issue with kids now, and kids are dealing with way too much stress. But yet school are trying to cram more advanced topics into school and adding more and more class time.

Education is nice but childhood is disappearing quickly and earlier.

I think society is closing on a brickwall on how far you can educate people.

Are you serious?

Education is becoming more advanced in basic education. Sooner or later, kids won't be able to take it all in. They'll be slaves to studying, and days of enjoying life will be over. They're getting close to that in Japan.

Look. I've taken Calculus 1,2,3, Differential Equations, Linear Algebra, and a bunch of other calc-based classes. Yes, classes such as those are hard and require alot of time; but, I've still had time for fun.

People can only be "slaves to studying" if that's what they choose. Studying is not some form of demonic possession. There's always time for fun.

What I'm learning as I progress is that working hard in school will better prepare you for the life after.

[Ва&am]

High School education back in your parent's days was actually simple. Now we're forcing Calc down our kids throats! And chances are, many of those kids won't use Calc ever again (unless if they're engineers). Homework is a constant issue with kids now, and kids are dealing with way too much stress. But yet school are trying to cram more advanced topics into school and adding more and more class time.

Education is nice but childhood is disappearing quickly and earlier.

I think society is closing on a brickwall on how far you can educate people.
I think Gauntlet is right: you guys are too hard on yourselves, take some time to relax, dont worry about anything, visit more gay-pride parades and learn from the gays. Gays are so sensitive about things, they should form their own political party in US.

[Seiyuuki]

High School education back in your parent's days was actually simple. Now we're forcing Calc down our kids throats! And chances are, many of those kids won't use Calc ever again (unless if they're engineers). Homework is a constant issue with kids now, and kids are dealing with way too much stress. But yet school are trying to cram more advanced topics into school and adding more and more class time.

Education is nice but childhood is disappearing quickly and earlier.

I think society is closing on a brickwall on how far you can educate people.

Three easy words, GOOD TIME MANAGEMENT...Think high school life is tough, wait till college. I know for sure that the intensive courses in high school sure made life a lot easier in college. It is not a big surprise that there is a good correlation of students who attended more AP or advance courses in high school more frequently attended college, do well, graduate, get good job and be a whole lot more successful in life.

[Turhapuro]

Stupid people should not even attend to high school.

[Gauntlet]

Don't make the assumpsiont that I'm a whiney student who's struggling to get A's. I'm actually a 4.0 student.

I'm just pissed over the fact that 60 years ago you didn't have to go to college and still do ok and live in a middle class neighborhood. But in this day and age, No college = flipping burgers for life and cheap apartments.

College sucks. You and I know it. They rob you of your time and money (a lot of money) just so you can take your life from poor to mediocre. My brother is telling me of college and how much it stinks.

[AlexNenadic]

College sucks. You and I know it.

Third year aerospace engineering here, and enjoying it very much. Speak for yourself.

[Roids]

I dont think that the studying and homework is a problem at all. Yes, even my teachers said that they never had as much homework as we do now. However I think its all very reasonable. Besides, if we want to remain a dominant power than we need to be smarter than kids in china ect ect(which seems even now we are not doing). Survival of the fittest applies here and if we want to be better than we must work harder(capitalism anyone?).

Although the extra activities that we do consume time...but hey, we volunteer for it.

[Para]

What strikes me being an old fart, is that people can use computers and calculators for school work. Many years ago you had to all this work in your head. The only spell checker was the teacher and ruler she carrried to belt you with if you got it wrong. I can go back to a time before ball point pens when every thing was written in long hand with a pen and ink. The ink wells were set in every desk and one of the pubishments you could get was to clean and refill the inkwells, by the time you had finished every one would know that you had done some thing wrong.

[Durandal]

Don't make the assumpsiont that I'm a whiney student who's struggling to get A's. I'm actually a 4.0 student.

I'm just pissed over the fact that 60 years ago you didn't have to go to college and still do ok and live in a middle class neighborhood. But in this day and age, No college = flipping burgers for life and cheap apartments.

College sucks. You and I know it. They rob you of your time and money (a lot of money) just so you can take your life from poor to mediocre. My brother is telling me of college and how much it stinks.

Deut and Flagg have pretty much said what I would say so let me respond to this.

You are comparing two completely different eras to come to your conclusion. In 1946, this nation STILL had massive unemployment and 25% of the nation at or under the poverty level.

The United States ALSO had a huge number of manufacturing jobs. Almost everything that was purchased here was made here, even if the raw material had to be imported from over seas. A great number of people STILL farmed as well, something like 26% of the population.

In this day and age, the government should be pushing for more science education than ever before and you complain about studying and homework!? Come off it now. Back in High School, my dad have half-assed classes (the space race had not started in ernest yet---which led to the explosion in education at the High School level) that dealt mainly with humanities and writing skills AND worked his free time, like most kids his age. The idea of "free time" is just now becoming something we want and get. Compared to 60 years ago, hell, even 40 probably, your ass DOES have free time.

The college thing you are also wrong about. I went, got a BFA. Now I am a farmer and love it. :) I have lots of buddies that NEVER went to school and are making 45 to to 90K a year. They are programmers and electricians. One is a Nurse that got certification in the late 70s after doing a stint in the Navy as a Corpsman. You can go into construction, heavy vehicle operation, the military (which has a fair number of option s associated with it), get into a union, like electrical, hauling, plumbing, HVAC, etc.

If you want to be a pilot, a lower education teacher, a professor, anything tech or computer related that gets paid well, a doctor/nurse, anything in science (mental or physical) you HAVE to get a higher education.

Part of the fun in my childhood (and that's a stretch after the age of 15 if you ask me...you should no longer be a child IMO) was the work I had. I started out at the age of 14 and had cash AND spent a lot of time studying, so I saved it. I started mowing lawns, went to taking care of properties at 16, by 17 I was doing roofing and decking work. I was also taking AP courses in one the best public schools in Ohio (and the U.S.) and busting my ass to get a 3.5. After that I went to Ohio State for a Military History/Eurpean History major, Chinese language minor, and ROTC...AND worked. Free time? I have that now AND plenty of found memories of my child hood.

Because my childhood was from 5 to 13...as it should be.

Cut the whining.

[California Joe]

I hate math was always lousy at Algebra but did great in geometry.

But then again I can draw naked women so it all evens out.

[Erik2a4]

Don't make the assumpsiont that I'm a whiney student who's struggling to get A's. I'm actually a 4.0 student.

I'm just pissed over the fact that 60 years ago you didn't have to go to college and still do ok and live in a middle class neighborhood. But in this day and age, No college = flipping burgers for life and cheap apartments.

College sucks. You and I know it. They rob you of your time and money (a lot of money) just so you can take your life from poor to mediocre. My brother is telling me of college and how much it stinks.

Here's the scary thing, bud. You may go to college and still end up flipping burgers at the golden arches. A degree guarantees nothing if you do not pick up actual knowledge to go along with it. ;)

Yes, society is competitive today, but I'm not sure it is more competitive...perhaps just in different ways. But no matter what your life goals are, or what happens to you along the way, your education is something that no one can ever take away from you. It is one of your most valuable resources because of that.

[Deuterium]

Don't make the assumpsiont that I'm a whiney student who's struggling to get A's. I'm actually a 4.0 student.

I'm just pissed over the fact that 60 years ago you didn't have to go to college and still do ok and live in a middle class neighborhood. But in this day and age, No college = flipping burgers for life and cheap apartments.

College sucks. You and I know it. They rob you of your time and money (a lot of money) just so you can take your life from poor to mediocre. My brother is telling me of college and how much it stinks.

Bill Gates (Microsoft) dropped out of Harvard, 1976
Steve Jobs (Apple, NeXT, Pixar) left Reed College in Portland, Oregon, after 1 semester
Steve Wozniak (with Jobs, founded Apple Computer)
Lawrence Ellison (Oracle Computer)
Michael Dell

All the above are college dropouts.

College is not the end all to fame and fortune. There are many jobs that DO require college. But your logic is specious on the importance of one and the inevitability of economics without one.

The truth is that it is the individual that makes or breaks their outcome in life.

[Zoomie]

College sucks. You and I know it. They rob you of your time and money (a lot of money) just so you can take your life from poor to mediocre. My brother is telling me of college and how much it stinks.
It's all what you make it to be. Sure they sap your money, but I don't really care because the military is paying me to go, so why not make it something worthwhile?
Lemme guess, your brother's a new freshman not even through his first semester, and is homesick?

[SuperShot5000]

I'm taking Trig, AP Histroy, AP Biology, and AP French while still being able to be captain of Varsity Football and Wrestling and on the Shooting team, class president, maintaining a heavy social life and having a steady girlfriend.

It's not exactly hard, you just need to have your priorities in order.

Tell these kids to stop bitching.

[California Joe]

Wow, you're dreamy.

Greg Marmalard?

Movie? Anyone....Bueller?

[Mr.K]

so bascially kids can stop education after they know how to read and write? The point of education and higher education is to make you (not you personnally) a less ingnorant person.