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Ian H
01-24-2004, 11:20 PM
I've read rumours in variuos threads that the French military is replacing the FAMAS rifle with what I believe to be called the POPOV.
Does anyone have any info about and/or pics of this weapon please because I've had no luck on Google.
Thanks in advance

mustamato
01-24-2004, 11:31 PM
I've read rumours in variuos threads that the French military is replacing the FAMAS rifle with what I believe to be called the POPOV.
Does anyone have any info about and/or pics of this weapon please because I've had no luck on Google.
Thanks in advance

"At the present time the slightly upgraded FAMAS G2 rifle is used as a platform for the future FELIN system (a French counterpart to the US "Land Warrior" programme), which incorporates a various electronic sights and sensors, connected to the soldier carried equipment, like the helmet mounted displays, ballistic and tactical computers etc."

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as21-e.htm

ivandebono
01-24-2004, 11:41 PM
It's actually called PAPOP, which stands for PolyArme-POlyProjectiles (Multiweapon-Multiprojectile).

See http://www.armees.com/article.php3?id_article=48

Cheers

UkrainianAmerican
01-24-2004, 11:43 PM
I've read rumours in variuos threads that the French military is replacing the FAMAS rifle with what I believe to be called the POPOV.
Does anyone have any info about and/or pics of this weapon please because I've had no luck on Google.
Thanks in advance

"At the present time the slightly upgraded FAMAS G2 rifle is used as a platform for the future FELIN system (a French counterpart to the US "Land Warrior" programme), which incorporates a various electronic sights and sensors, connected to the soldier carried equipment, like the helmet mounted displays, ballistic and tactical computers etc."

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as21-e.htm
Methinks Mustas getting a hardon.

Jack Mehoff
01-25-2004, 12:23 AM
It looks...um..big

http://www.armees.com/IMG/jpg/papop.jpg

Ratamacue
01-25-2004, 12:24 AM
So is that an over/under design like the XM29? Looks like it anyway.

cut
01-25-2004, 12:26 AM
it has a good 8 years to shrink

usa320
01-25-2004, 12:33 AM
Damn and we ditched the OICW in favor of the XM-8 because it was too heavy.

soma
01-25-2004, 02:10 AM
I'm sure they'll drop it too, remember, they are the 'weak' french rofl

venture160
01-25-2004, 02:48 AM
wow thats a gun for arnold, or someone else of his stature

crazystriker
01-25-2004, 04:17 AM
it seems more useful for batting someone to death.

Macs.
01-25-2004, 04:50 AM
It looks...um..big

http://www.armees.com/IMG/jpg/papop.jpg

Looks like a OICW for poor people. p-)

Wacko
01-25-2004, 05:27 AM
It looks...um..big

http://www.armees.com/IMG/jpg/papop.jpg
Looks like the weapon you got in HALO the game:)

REMOV
01-25-2004, 07:27 AM
I've read rumours in variuos threads that the French military is replacing the FAMAS rifle with what I believe to be called the POPOV.It is called PAPOP (Polyarme Polyprojectiles), not POPOV ;)

Does anyone have any info about and/or pics of this weapon please because I've had no luck on Google.Try PAPOP ;)

http://www.sistemasdearmas.hpg.ig.com.br/sof/sofpapop10.jpg
http://www.sistemasdearmas.hpg.ig.com.br/sof/sofpapop1.jpg
http://www.sistemasdearmas.hpg.ig.com.br/sof/sofpapop11.jpg
http://le.cos.free.fr/photo/felin/soffelinbateria.jpg
Battery change
http://www.sistemasdearmas.hpg.ig.com.br/sof/sofpapop3.jpg
http://www.sistemasdearmas.hpg.ig.com.br/sof/sofpapop12.jpg
http://le.cos.free.fr/photo/felin/soffelinaif1.jpg
35mm/5,56mm PAPOP I (mock-up)

http://www.sistemasdearmas.hpg.ig.com.br/sof/sofpapop2.jpg
http://www.sistemasdearmas.hpg.ig.com.br/sof/sofpapop4.jpg
http://www.sistemasdearmas.hpg.ig.com.br/sof/sofpapop5.jpg
http://www.sistemasdearmas.hpg.ig.com.br/sof/sofpapop8.jpg
http://www.sistemasdearmas.hpg.ig.com.br/sof/sofpapop9.jpg
35mm/5,56mm PAPOP II (mock-up)

MARINO
01-25-2004, 07:30 AM
Looks like gun in Starshiptroopes, it don't like very usefull.

REMOV
01-25-2004, 07:31 AM
It looks...um..bigIt was the very first model, and it is just a mock-up. Don't judge weapon program when you saw the first prototype ;)

Operation Ivy
01-25-2004, 08:07 AM
And you guys are always making fun of our XM29 saying its to big :roll: :D

Jooglae
01-25-2004, 09:40 AM
The rifle seems even bigger than the prototype XM29s. Do they use airburst HE rounds that are bigger than the 20mm ones?

Micke
01-25-2004, 09:43 AM
AHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thats a gun??? I thought it was a field portable toaster or some****.

REMOV
01-25-2004, 10:54 AM
Do they use airburst HE rounds that are bigger than the 20mm ones?Mhm... 35mm grenades.

http://www.sistemasdearmas.hpg.ig.com.br/sof/sofpapop6.jpg

non-zero possibility
01-25-2004, 11:53 AM
We did not ditch the oicw for the xm8... The xm8 is the rifle on the oicw.

fantassin
01-25-2004, 12:37 PM
The French army was never really interested in it; it was the industrials that made a lot of noise about it trying to force it down the army's throat.

Every soldier who held it said it was madness trying to operate with such a lump.

wholagun
01-25-2004, 12:40 PM
how is this thing good for close combat in built up areas? This thing is way too big and clumsy. How will this thing even fit into an apc they must take up alot of room. The G36 is long but at least its got a folding stock.

But like Remov said, don't bash it tillya try it.

Ian H
01-25-2004, 02:26 PM
Thanks all. That PAPOP ( :oops: ) looks pretty hefty, so maybe it won't be a universal replacement for the FAMAS, if its adopted at all.

Miles Teg
01-25-2004, 04:47 PM
I remark also this gun was really huge.

Too big, definetely.

I prefer the last felin version (mod of the Famas)

RomanS
01-25-2004, 05:12 PM
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Sorry

but...... no ..... oh

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

sorry

Miles Teg
01-25-2004, 05:19 PM
I agree with you permskii. :lol:

Hopefully we will no more insist on this design.

RomanS
01-25-2004, 05:28 PM
Don't fix what is not broken!

hint FAMAS hint

AFG
01-25-2004, 06:02 PM
...

wow that is a big weapon.

elguapo
01-25-2004, 09:21 PM
I knew I'd seen it before....



with four of those a squad can assemble a giant robot

http://www.rovang.org/sentai/mmpr-powercannon.jpg

http://www.rovang.org/sentai/mmpr-thundermz.jpg

LordHalbert
01-26-2004, 12:19 AM
I've seen that gun before:

http://www.deviarts.com/mib.jpg

Yes, now I remember rofl

stateofequilibrium
01-26-2004, 12:26 AM
With all the modern militaries now designing rifles to shoot around corners. Do you guys think we're all going to have to switch so that grenade rounds are standard, and that the machine gun rounds are big enough to tear large chunks of the wall off to get the guy standing behind the corner?

Probably with the new Future Warrior and it's increased synthetic muscle, people might be able to carry larger calibered weapons more comfortably?

Wacko
01-26-2004, 04:32 AM
And you guys are always making fun of our XM29 saying its to big :roll: :DYou mean the German XM29?

Lone Wolf
01-26-2004, 10:10 AM
http://www.sistemasdearmas.hpg.ig.com.br/sof/sofpapop10.jpg
http://le.cos.free.fr/photo/felin/soffelinaif1.jpg

looks like the shotgun from Unreal 2: The Awakening... :cantbeli: rofl

http://www.actiontrip.com/reviews/pics/unreal2theawakening5.jpg

cut
01-26-2004, 10:21 AM
It's a gun, but also a house! and a car!

MaxPayne
01-26-2004, 11:32 AM
thats really an ugly weapon

army cadet_ngcsu
01-26-2004, 06:19 PM
That is by far the ugliest weapon ever divised by man in the past 100 years! It looks like a cheap plastic "alien blaster" that I would buy my 4 year old nephew

Operation Ivy
01-26-2004, 07:01 PM
And you guys are always making fun of our XM29 saying its to big :roll: :DYou mean the German XM29?

??? the XM29 is gonna be an american rifle aka OICW

Ratamacue
01-26-2004, 07:03 PM
Well, it's American but made by HK, so I suppose it's German.

stuntman
01-27-2004, 12:19 AM
Well, it's American but made by HK, so I suppose it's German.
Only the xm8 is German. The xm29 is made by alliant technology which I think is a New Jersey based missle and fire control designer. Remember the so called "plastic" is a developement of dupont and the oicw, xm8 and xm29 are all licensed to use the carbon fiber and other materials.

Seiyuuki
01-27-2004, 12:36 AM
http://www.armees.com/IMG/jpg/papop.jpg

Do you think the gun is that big to compensate for something?

Miles Teg
01-27-2004, 05:27 AM
Do you think the gun is that big to compensate for something?

Rooooohhhhh :lol:

BT_Recon
01-27-2004, 05:45 AM
its also a toboggan :lol:

Parzival
01-27-2004, 09:55 AM
Damn science fiction weapon! :)