Russian SPETSNAZ training

[UraBudanov]

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[Zeke]

Great pics man.

[He219]

Nice pix, UraBudanov!
:D

[kayaker]

Nice helmets! :p

[Nrom]

Awesome pics Budanov!

[Name Taken]

the "For Chechnya" tatto is badass!

[Chatnick]

the "For Chechnya" tatto is badass!
I think it says:FOR SPETSNAZ

[goldman]

WOW! woot

[FDF_Hemppis]

Oh boy, looks at all the different camos p-)

j/k great pics :D

[Enduring Freedom]

the "For Chechnya" tatto is badass!
I think it says:FOR SPETSNAZ

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@ Chatnick, I seriously doubt that!

[Bluezoo]

Excellent pictures! woot

[intelligenzija]

the "For Chechnya" tatto is badass!
I think it says:FOR SPETSNAZ

@ Chatnick, I seriously doubt that!


What are you talking about??!

[Nrom]

Russian are making best equipment in the world! woot

[Freedom isnt Free]

it says "for spetsnaz" not "for chechnya". but anyway, cool pics!

[Catch22]

@ Nrom: Why do you want to turn everything into pissing contest eh? Its childish game, ill understood patriotism probably in your case. After some time you learn to choose the best options disregarding less important factors. Russians make some good gear - and noone is questioning that, but "best" its just overstatement. Their webbing isn't too good however its quite durable. And yes, I used/know it. For example - "Partizan" and winter "Blot" camo suits are very good items, but I prefer western webbing.

It seems Russia got new digitalized camo oversuits, I've never seen it before (it seems to be modernized version of KLMK classics). Nice pattern for spring - any more details, photos of it Budanov? :)
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Oh, and tatoo says: "For Spetznaz" indeed.

[Miles.]

I would never want to mix it up with those snake-eaters. They look tough, pissed off, and ready to blow sides of off buildings. DAYUM!

[VISTREL]

Thanks for pics!

btw, that's a very cute dog there...hopefully I'll own one in a couple of years! :D

[Sidka]

Probably a stupid question but SPETSNAZ mean what in english?

[VISTREL]

Probably a stupid question but SPETSNAZ mean what in english?

spets - "specialnoe" = special
naz = "naznachenie" = designation, purpose

[mack pl]

Probably a stupid question but SPETSNAZ mean what in english?

spets - "specialnoe" = special
naz = "naznachenie" = designation, purpose


literally "special purpose units" or just a Special Forces

[Ding Chavez]

those are some badass photos thx 4 posting them

i theres a few i really like like this one for instance. that looks fun as hell. what a way to earn a paycheck!

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[Sidka]

Oh i see thx mate :)

[Nrom]

@ Nrom: Why do you want to turn everything into pissing contest eh? Its childish game, ill understood patriotism probably in your case. After some time you learn to choose the best options disregarding less important factors. Russians make some good gear - and noone is questioning that, but "best" its just overstatement. Their webbing isn't too good however its quite durable. And yes, I used/know it. For example - "Partizan" and winter "Blot" camo suits are very good items, but I prefer western webbing.

It seems Russia got new digitalized camo oversuits, I've never seen it before (it seems to be modernized version of KLMK classics). Nice pattern for spring - any more details, photos of it Budanov? :)


Oh, and tatoo says: "For Spetznaz" indeed.

Iam not russian. I just sayed my opinion i have Partizan suit, Sumrak, M22 "Tarzan" and they are hight quality even better that our M/91 or US woodland/Marpat/Cadpat thats why i sayes so.

[Bushman]

Damn they are bad at facepainting :| :P

[Nrom]

Damn they are bad at facepaintin' :| :P

facepaint wont save your ass ;)

[Catch22]

Well, your new Finnish camouflage (Hellepuku 2004 and new 05 series)are very nice - desert, woodland and winter ones. From what it looks its better than most russian stuff hand down.

[Nrom]

Well, your new Finnish camouflage (Hellepuku 2004 and new 05 series)are very nice - desert, woodland and winter ones. From what it looks its better than most russian stuff hand down.

I like our new winter camo but that summer digitalcamouflage is ugly... :|

[Valdas]

Great pics!
We have a great chance to compare military SF and SWAT units.
What is a chopper with “Miliciya” inscription?

[deptacon]

that is probably the worst attempt at face camo, i have ever seen, but yeah nice pics

[Kingtabed3]

Thugs. Trust me.



Tab out :lol:

[miguelencanarias]

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Is it me, or the Partizan pattern is heavily influenced by some WWII SS camo patterns, more specifically Oak Leaf B?

Also, is that at the front an obvious copy of the British DPM pattern?

[Catch22]

In both cases answer is "yes". It is Current variant of SS pattern, and it is a russian DPM variant, resembling early 65 pattern..

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

In both cases answer is "yes". It is Current variant of SS pattern, and it is a russian DPM variant, resembling early 65 pattern..

The partisan suit is also reverisible, one side "summer pattern" the other "fall" (wasnt the german version reversible?). I really should've bought one when I had the chance :(

The dpm version is a "copy", but used in a much different cut then your standard uniform (russian splav bekas cut).

[AlisterMcRae]

The helmets they wear look very similiar to the ones worn by the space troopers in space balls... :lol:

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[seventy6er]

When I first read the title of the thread, I expected to see some Russian dudes doing flic-flacs, saltos with daggers and axes, jumping over fire and crushing bricks woth their hands and head rofl

Good pics! woot

[miguelencanarias]

The helmets they wear look very similiar to the ones worn by the space troopers in space balls... :lol:

I believe Russia is using titanium helmets, am I right?

If so, how did you solve the problems inherent with titanium? the Suiss Army tried titanium for their helmets in the 60s, but they found it to be weak against direct hits, dangerous because of the inner splinters and very costly.

[vi]

Great pics!
We have a great chance to compare military SF and SWAT units.
What is a chopper with “Miliciya” inscription?
its a police chopper, in russia police is called "miliciya"

[Valdas]

in russia police is called "miliciya"
Thx, I know that.
I mean, what is a type? It's Russian model?

[DE_Six]

in russia police is called "miliciya"
Thx, I know that.
I mean, what is a type? It's Russian model?

Unless it's a russian knock-off, it looks like an Aerospatiale AS350 Ecureuil (http://www.combataircraft.com/aircraft/has350.aspx)(France, military variant called the Fennec), commonly used by LE in the US and Canada too.

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[Valdas]

Unless it's a russian knock-off, it looks like an Aerospatiale AS350 Ecureuil
:hug:

[bigjeff]

Bravo! woot

[km5]

i dont know the quality of those helmets, but DAMN that looks goofy. I was thinking of Space Balls too lol. and you hardly see personal body armor on these guys, maybe because its just training.

[combat jack]

Good stuff. Threads like this is why I visit this site!

[Telnyashka]

Probably a stupid question but SPETSNAZ mean what in english?

spets - "specialnoe" = special
naz = "naznachenie" = designation, purpose


isnt is Voiska Spetsalnogo (g ****ounced as v ofcourse) Naznacheniya?

[Vintendo]

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Same helmets, but the helmet cover they use makes them look like the rediculous space balls helmets. Why can't they have fitted helmet covers?

[DE_Six]

Bravo! woot

Same thing as a Squirrel?

http://www.scramble.nl/mil/1/raf/gfx/photos/gov-main-squirrel.jpg

Ecureuil means squirrel in french. ;)

[bloddyaxe]

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Same helmets, but the helmet cover they use makes them look like the rediculous space balls helmets. Why can't they have fitted helmet covers?

Actually they are different...
The spaceballs are called STSh-81..
while the not spacebally is probably called Maska 1Sh

[Stormy]

Great set of pics, thanks dude.

[Vintendo]

oops my bad, I was under the impression that they are the same helmets. In pictures of the Chinese-Russian war game I saw Russian troops wearing a totally different helmet. Anyone have more info?

[Nrom]

oops my bad, I was under the impression that they are the same helmets. In pictures of the Chinese-Russian war game I saw Russian troops wearing a totally different helmet. Anyone have more info?

yep

[Igor01]

oops my bad, I was under the impression that they are the same helmets. In pictures of the Chinese-Russian war game I saw Russian troops wearing a totally different helmet. Anyone have more info?

The helmets worn by the Russian Airborne troops during the wargames in China are 6B7, most likely manufactured by Armocom (http://www.armocom.ru/6B7-1e.htm)
These are beginning to be issued en mass, many VDV, Naval Infantry and active duty troops in Chechnya already have them.

http://www.armocom.ru/image/6B7-1L.jpg

COMBAT BALLISTIC HELMET
Designed to meet the specific needs of ground and airborne troops

Performance Data
Performance characteristics Value
Weight, kg <1.3
Protection area, sq.dm >11.4
Antibullet resistance, 9mm Makarov Pistol bullet, shot distance 5m, at velocity, m/s 315
Antifragmentation resistance, fragment simulators by diam. 6.3mm and by weight of 1.0g at V50, m/s >580
Antifragmentation resistance, arrow-shaped striking elements by weight of 0.87g at V50, m/s >215

[miguelencanarias]

The Ssh 68 (Ssh 74) helmet allowed the use of the oushanka in winter. What do they do in the Russian Army nowadays to fight extreme cold, with those new, closer fit helmets?

[Igor01]

The Ssh 68 (Ssh 74) helmet allowed the use of the oushanka in winter. What do they do in the Russian Army nowadays to fight extreme cold, with those new, closer fit helmets?

They wear close-fitting woolen caps.

[NicNZ]

Very nice pics, thank you

[Holmer]

Nice pics, but the most ridiculous looking helmets I have ever seen.

[km5]

the tattoo says 'For Spetznaz'. I'm russian, trust me thats what it says. Another stupid case is closed.

[UraBudanov]

ZA SPETSNAZ

for spetsnaz

[Philbert]

Your a f**knut tab...
if you really are in the military, you would have an appreciation for what people are trying to do on this site, share a common interest in the military. you are destroying this by being a complete bonehead and disrespecting little f**k. I would have thought that with the supposed military backround that you have, you would have some respect and also share the interest in all military articles ect that are posted on this site. why dont you do everyone a favour, and dissapear! your pointless bullsh..it is not wanted here! GET F**KED

[miguelencanarias]

Your a f**knut tab...
if you really are in the military, you would have an appreciation for what people are trying to do on this site, share a common interest in the military. you are destroying this by being a complete bonehead and disrespecting little f**k. I would have thought that with the supposed military backround that you have, you would have some respect and also share the interest in all military articles ect that are posted on this site. why dont you do everyone a favour, and dissapear! your pointless bullsh..it is not wanted here! GET F**KED
Exactly my point. I said something of the sort in other thread, but he keeps doing his thing. Has anyone notice how this idiot doesn't make any significant contribution in any of his posts? nothing. Just one nonsense after another. I strongly believe he is a bored teenager without a life.

[UraBudanov]

Guys just hang on, mods are doing their best now to clean the forum. I wish I could help.

[Duvdevan]

Russian spetsnaz are Badass p-)

[Angrykirill]

The helo is either Mil or Kamov, cant remember name...

[UraBudanov]

MODS?
ban hammer?

[Lokos]

there is nobody named hammer had been posting on this thread

Oh, ****, good one, you really got him there...

:roll:

Lokos

[Drunkensquid]

there is nobody named hammer had been posting on this thread

Oh, ****, good one, you really got him there...

:roll:

Lokos

I know, I was just trying to help him out.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/ripinby/Smileys%20and%20stuff/emthup.gif

[mack pl]

These are the worst trained special forces in the world!

nope, Egyptian SF are worse



and now group hug :hug:

[sir-chimp]

These are the worst trained special forces in the world!

nope, Egyptian SF are worse



and now group hug :hug:

infidel

[mack pl]

oki, lets stop the bull****, and enjoy the pics

[Telnyashka]

Oh, yeah, they are great... at killing children. These are the worst trained special forces in the world! Why are you so enthusiastic?!

You Levan's brother? :roll:

[CG51]

Nice pics thanks. I thought Spetsnaz was converting over to the AN-94?

[Telnyashka]

Nice pics thanks. I thought Spetsnaz was converting over to the AN-94?

There is no uniform assault rifle for Spetsnaz. They use what they want.

AN-94 will not be used for general army use because it has too many small parts and it takes too long to get used to taking it apart. Some Spetsnaz use it ofcourse, others use AK-74M and some even used AKM because of its firepower...thats why the AK-101 is also used as its a 7.62mm modernized AKM for urban warfare.

[3rdMillhouse]

MODS?
ban hammer?

God.......I had nightmares with that avatar of yours, is it you?

[Lokos]

I've noticed that the **** stirrers on MP.net are now almost exclusively those who've joined post-Shrek Debacle. Mods, lay down the law, please.

Lokos

[UraBudanov]

Nice pics thanks. I thought Spetsnaz was converting over to the AN-94?

There is no uniform assault rifle for Spetsnaz. They use what they want.

AN-94 will not be used for general army use because it has too many small parts and it takes too long to get used to taking it apart. Some Spetsnaz use it ofcourse, others use AK-74M and some even used AKM because of its firepower...thats why the AK-101 is also used as its a 7.62mm modernized AKM for urban warfare.
AK-101 is 5.56 dude

[wittmann]

Oh, yeah, they are great... at killing children. These are the worst trained special forces in the world! Why are you so enthusiastic?!

You Levan's brother? :roll:

Who's that?

[Luno]

Nice pics thanks. I thought Spetsnaz was converting over to the AN-94?

There is no uniform assault rifle for Spetsnaz. They use what they want.

AN-94 will not be used for general army use because it has too many small parts and it takes too long to get used to taking it apart. Some Spetsnaz use it ofcourse, others use AK-74M and some even used AKM because of its firepower...thats why the AK-101 is also used as its a 7.62mm modernized AKM for urban warfare.
AK-101 is 5.56 dude

he did probably mean the AK-103 (7.62x39) :D

[Telnyashka]

Yes my apologies, I meant the AK-103.

[GREEK71AIRBORNE]

Nice pics thanks. I thought Spetsnaz was converting over to the AN-94?

There is no uniform assault rifle for Spetsnaz. They use what they want.

AN-94 will not be used for general army use because it has too many small parts and it takes too long to get used to taking it apart. Some Spetsnaz use it ofcourse, others use AK-74M and some even used AKM because of its firepower...thats why the AK-101 is also used as its a 7.62mm modernized AKM for urban warfare.

Thanks for the info pal!! i was just going to ask some questions but you answered it already!!
Nice pictures!
Spetznatz are definately well trained!

[spoiledEgg]

please post more pics

[Serg]

facepaint wont save your ass ;)

Well, that not true. I like russian forces and i thing that they are pretty good, but I can´t understand the absence of real face camuflage.
More than hundred times, on trainings, i was able to spot "enemy" (especcially ones who don´t move) just because of their unpainted white faces - its like searchlight.

[Serg]

URABUDANOV: Nice pics, thanks for them.
can i ask what sort of specnaz are they. Its looks to me like MVD specnaz, but I am not sure.¨
And, if i am right, what unit they belongs to? vitiaz or other one?


BTW, Its just me, or is true that plenty of MVD pics is availble, but almost none photos of VDV, especcialy 45.VDV ORPSN, and almost none photos of members of GRU brigades can by found?

[arctrooper]

Does anyone know if russian spetsnaz or russian military have or is using digital camouflage.

[desantnik85]

If you mean "digital" as in like marpat or canpat, then no, I've never seen that sort of cammo either manufactured or worn in Russia.

Some people refer to the 1960's onwards KLMK/sun ray/sun bunny variants as "digita pixel" but they arent as such, just looks a bit pixel like. Some Russian units use this pattern on their new made BDU's.

[bigjeff]

Awesome pics.thx

[UFo]

Something from history....specnaz combat training. Sorry if it was posted before.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1505869179648427725&q=special+forces

[CHERK]

Something from history....specnaz combat training. Sorry if it was posted before.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1505869179648427725&q=special+forces

Nice video.