Knives, bayonets, multi tools, daggers and other pointy implements.

[Blarney]

nope...its simple though...take a chamber and cut the webbing, thus making 2 chambers one. Then slide the sheath in on the belt attachment. Take some 550 and loop it around another chamber and the kydex hole. Burn the cord to ensure the rope stays tight and doesnt come undone.

[imadazhell]

nope...its simple though...take a chamber and cut the webbing, thus making 2 chambers one. Then slide the sheath in on the belt attachment. Take some 550 and loop it around another chamber and the kydex hole. Burn the cord to ensure the rope stays tight and doesnt come undone.

I guess that makes perfect sense. I never considered pulling out the threads from between two cells before, and that would end up working. Thanks Blarney!

[Laconian]

550 cord, 100mph tape and zip ties, either individually or used in combination, can solve almost any fastening problem in the world

[imadazhell]

550 cord, 100mph tape and zip ties, either individually or used in combination, can solve almost any fastening problem in the world

I also have two different length sizes of MALICE clips in use. These are those black plastic reusable straps designed for MOLLE gear.

[quarter-recon]

Does bayonet have any impact on accuracy of M16/M4?

When you zero the rifle, you wouldn't zero it with the bayonet on. So yes if you had it on it would put the aim out if only slightly. The main aim of a bayonet is not to use it if your packing alot of rounds though.

That is why any attachments you will use should be on the rifle when you zero it however. Ie, NAD's, optics, GLA's, and so on.

[Hollis]

When you zero the rifle, you wouldn't zero it with the bayonet on. So yes if you had it on it would put the aim out if only slightly. The main aim of a bayonet is not to use it if your packing alot of rounds though.

That is why any attachments you will use should be on the rifle when you zero it however. Ie, NAD's, optics, GLA's, and so on.

PRACTICAL ACCURACY.......... ever notice Sniper rifles do not have bayonets... OK some ruskie variant do..

Under CQC.. you not looking for 1/4 of a MOA.. 6 MOA is OKie. even 8...... heck there is even spray and pray.

[crazyman]

hey a bayonet sure as hell dont run outa ammo, and the batteries dont go dead often

[bluffcove]

THe FN Fal is a differnt rifle.

Fire and manouvre had nothing to do with the british Victory, The argentinians were fighting a defensive not an offensive battle.
Transport in the falklands meant they HAD to sit and wait as they physically couldnt move out of their secure areas to oppose teh beachheads. The only time they did move out to meet the britsh was a t Darwin when they found the Minefields they had laid to defend themselve were then to their rear cutting their retreat!

Using a bayonet in defense is very different to using it in the assault. If I was attacking and told to fix bayonets Id be fired up, If I was sat in a trench and told to fix bayonets Id be sh!tting myself about the world of pain that was about to over run my position.

[bluffcove]

THe FN Fal is a differnt rifle.

Fire and manouvre had nothing to do with the british Victory, The argentinians were fighting a defensive not an offensive battle.
Transport in the falklands meant they HAD to sit and wait as they physically couldnt move out of their secure areas to oppose teh beachheads. The only time they did move out to meet the britsh was a t Darwin when they found the Minefields they had laid to defend themselve were then to their rear cutting their retreat!

Using a bayonet in defense is very different to using it in the assault. If I was attacking and told to fix bayonets Id be fired up, If I was sat in a trench and told to fix bayonets Id be sh!tting myself about the world of pain that was about to over run my position.

[Hollis]

I think this all goes back to a early post of mine, A bayonet is mostly a psychological weapon.. for both user and usee. A fighting knife, IMHO, is a very important tool to a Soldiers kit. a BAYONET that is not attached to the rifle is a Knife.

[Magicmarker]

hey a bayonet sure as hell dont run outa ammo, and the batteries dont go dead often
And bayonets don't jam either :)

[Hyllus]

Personally I would rather a knife if he and I both were out of ammunition.
Yah sure. What if he had a bayonet? You would get p0wN3d.

[Hollis]

Yah sure. What if he had a bayonet? You would get p0wN3d.

Not what I have seen, in bayonet/knife training, the guy with the knife generally won. W/bayonet, once your adversary steps into your zone, you are had.

bayonets are a hold over from the days of a Pike. They do have a purpose as mentioned before.

[Hyllus]

Dude ... what you saw it was in TRAINING ... off course the knife guy is gonna win.. in training however is decided to win, wins ... it's not actual ... so what you're saying is that they were fighting with real knives and bayonets ... lol plz

[quarter-recon]

Yah sure. What if he had a bayonet? You would get p0wN3d.

Hollis, your post after mine I could not make sense of. I think I get the guist though, which doesn't reflect my post.

To hyllus, you obviously lack simple military knowledge. If a "bayonet" has blood grooves or a serrated edge it cannot be a bayonet, so they are called "combat knives".

Therein lies the secret as to why I said knife...

[Hollis]

Dude ... what you saw it was in TRAINING ... off course the knife guy is gonna win.. in training however is decided to win, wins ... it's not actual ... so what you're saying is that they were fighting with real knives and bayonets ... lol plz

Google Mutter's Ridge, 1969............. that was not a training exercise.

[Hollis]

Quarter-Recon, I am not sure what post you are talking about. I agree with you on taking a knife over a bayonet.

Hyllus
Yeah sure the other dude runs out of ammo same time you do.... So you fix bayonet, he picks up his dead buddies rifle and zips ya. BTW your profile says nothing about you, What AO where you in?

If you have been in CQC, people don't dance with each other, regardless if they have knived/bayonet, real CQC is not Hollyweird garbage....... While your playing with Charlie, his bro Twi blows you away.

[ShakesFIST]

Hollis, your post after mine I could not make sense of. I think I get the guist though, which doesn't reflect my post.

To hyllus, you obviously lack simple military knowledge. If a "bayonet" has blood grooves or a serrated edge it cannot be a bayonet, so they are called "combat knives".

Therein lies the secret as to why I said knife...

So if blood grooves and serrated edges make it a knife and not a bayonet, why does the US Army issue us the M9 as a bayonet and not a combat knife?

http://www.m9bayonet.com/images/phrobis-m9/m9_phrobis_crazy9-03c.jpg

[quarter-recon]

I don't follow what you guys do, I'm not in your army.

[Durandal]

Mutter's Ridge, 1969............. that was not a training exercise.

Noooo $hit....

Man...

Damn Hollis. Been talking to you all this time and never knew...

[Hollis]

Noooo $hit....

Man...

Damn Hollis. Been talking to you all this time and never knew...

Not much to say, I do chat with the re-enactors, they are a great group of guys.. I hope history is preserved.

[Limeyfellow]

It still surprise me they manage to get around the Hague convention of 1899 with the use of serrated bayonets. After all it bans the use of bullets that flatten and thats considered active but you can use bayonets with serations and saw blades and so on in a military conflict. In WW1 it would have you shot by your own side, nowadays it seems normal.

[marktigger]

And bayonets don't jam either :)

Oh yes they do usually in between ribs and if you get suction. Tip given to us by a scots guard from tumbledown . Make sure you have ammo in you mag as you may need to blast the bayonet free.

If you've done Bayonet assualt course then you should realise that the bayonet isn't an anacrnism and as Bluff cove says the order to fix bayonets is a way to get you fired up for the final assualt. Just like they did on the bayonet assualt course that Psych up process is still there in your mind so if you are ever unlucky enough to be in a situation where you have to fix bayonets in the assualt it will switch back on.

The overiding difference between the Argies and the British was standards of command and leadership. There were some very professional argentine units like the 5th Marines who the Jocks ran into on Tumbledown. But they were let down by poor morale and leadership at Junior NCO level.

[bluffcove]

Bayonet versus Knife in a fight.

The "fight" is called an assault as Bayonets are only used is attack and not defence. by the time you have jumped into the trench and started giving out the good news, the enemy trench will have been stoked with LSW or 51 or UGL. the bloke sitting their will be keeping his chiun as close to his knees as possible and praying that today is not his day to die. Whilst he is thinking that, some cheerful ba5tard will post a grenade into the end of his firepit. shortly after the joys of explosive and fragmentation two cheerful blokes will arrive to give them sheffields finest.

Bayonets are not the be all and end all (well... excusing the pun) They are a stage in the process of the fight through. If you arrive in the enemy trench and the Dago is still prepared to knife fight you, then the SF boys and grenadiers really havent been doing there job.

The British army "BAYONET" has a drop point, blood groves and rib dividers it is definatly not a "knife" I would be interested to see where you serations definition came from as I know that the saw of the SA80 Bayonet is included on the scabbard not the blade.

[Hydro]

Yup, just another tool in the fight through, they don't like it up 'em Mr. Mainwaring...You need speed and unhinged aggression for the assault and there's no better way of getting unhinged than sticking 8 inches of sharp pig sticker on your gat before following that grenade in...

[bluffcove]

only done it on exercise naturally, but there is something about hearing SF ripping over the top of a trench and your oppo shouting, "bayonets-fix" jsut before the switch fire that makes your ringe piece pucker!

[marktigger]

wouldn't like to have to use the SA80 Bayonet. The nice thing with the SLR and bayonet was it gave you a bit of reach. And with its robustness you knew you had a fairly good club if all else failed. The one thing of couse Bluff cove you missed is the covering White Phospherous smoke posted into the trench to cover your advance

[bluffcove]

"Instantaneous smoke screen." Not an AP weapon I hasten to add.

[Hydro]

"Instantaneous smoke screen." Not an AP weapon I hasten to add.



Of course not. It's just that the bunker required covering smoke inside it. Can't be too careful.

[kamarian]

I personally think bayonets are a useless anachronism. only around half, probably less, of a modern western infantry section/squad even have bayonets, so it would be a pretty pityfull "charge".

How many men in a Brit section? is it 8? if so, then let's see:

2 guys have L86LSW, no bayonet lugs.
2 guys have Minimis, no bayonet lugs
2 guys have AG36, == no bayonet.

That leaves how many guys with bayonets? And you need someone to drive the truck and operate the GPMG on to too.

The FN SCAR has no bayonet lug. That should tell you something.

How many have bayonets? All should have. I know a few mates who are all issued bayonets regardless of weapon issued. Just because you don't have a weapon that cant use a bayonet, doesnt mean you don't carry one. Also a sharpened entrenching tool or machette is just as good.

[I love Rachael Leigh Cook]

Sure, it's the same here, and I'll be buggered if I know why. Guess for the same reason they made me carry a BFA on ops, once.

You take the bayonet, I'll take an extra mag for my rifle that weighs about the same, and we'll see who comes out on top, eh?

[Hydro]

You take the bayonet, I'll take an extra mag for my rifle that weighs about the same, and we'll see who comes out on top, eh?



And I shall take both.

[welshmann]

think i rember a story of the pwrr reg doing a bayonet assault on enemy in iraq.

[bluffcove]

And I shall take both.

Whilst you change mags or get a stoppage, during your final assault, Ill run them through in time for tea and cakes.

[I love Rachael Leigh Cook]

*shrug* My preperations for battle do not hinge on the enemy having a stoppage or changing mags at the wrong moment. If he does I will put a bullet in his chest and no number of bayonets or machetes or fighting tomahawks in his possesion will do him a lick of good. That way I can quickly move my PO aim to his buddy who DOES still have a functioning weapon, who hasn't yet located me like he would have if I had stood up and ran screaming with my pointy rifle. I sort of like to assume that my enemy was at least as competent and clever as I am. Yeah, I'm just crazy that way.

Man, this kind of reminds me of the movie We were Soldiers. All through the movie I swear the Americans won because it never dawned on the NVA that they had, like GUNS, that shoot, like bullets. Sure you CAN run someone through or club him to death with it but that's not really the point.

[bluffcove]

You plan on your enemy taking certain actions. Well thats convenient, meanwhile a bayonet takes care of those emergencies that we cant plan for.

Until you start writing SOPs for the British Military I think we can agree that your experience and opinion count for sh!t. Toodlepip!

[Hollis]

Until you start writing SOPs for the British Military I think we can agree that your experience and opinion count for sh!t. Toodlepip!

Humm, Ahem, Yo dude, While not wanting to say anything that would seem like a "put down" to the British SOP's writers,,,,,,,,,,,, But they are not the only players in the game.

WHilst I would like to see you "COMBAT resume" to know if you are vetted, or wetted, or just a kid who like video games, No reason to slam someone.

There is a Colonalist web site set up and run by Members of the US Special Forces (Green Berets) They have a good read on bayonets. Many who posted are Combat Veterans, Life long members of that noble service,,,,,,,,, So I would think their opinion would amount to something.

Whilst not wanting to let the "cat out of the bag" you can read that thread, apply it to your experience.. and we can go from there.

For those WHO walk for a Living, carring another item means carring less of something esle, Ammo is still the Number 1 perfered choice to carry something of. Now if you ride, heck...another story.

[Ratamacue]

think i rember a story of the pwrr reg doing a bayonet assault on enemy in iraq.If I remember correctly, it was the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders.

[Hollis]

If I remember correctly, it was the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders.

That may demonstrate a difference in the UK military thinking, and US........ or... there was some other reason. Machine guns sort of took the fun out of the Bayonet charge.

[I love Rachael Leigh Cook]

Yeah, I can't say I've ever bayonetted anyone, so you may have the advantage of me in that respect. How many people have you bayonetted? How many of them were carrying guns? :roll: Apparently the Somme and Marne are already ancient history.

As much fun as this is, I suppose I can counsel myself with the fact that the Brits hardy have a monopoly on silly outdated SOPs. Besides the aforementioned BFA laugh, Have you seen the new bayonet we have? There's a wirecutter on the scabbard, which is nice, except to remove the scabbard from the frog, you have to remove it from the vest, so you need to take the vest off to. The whole process takes about 15 minutes, so I'm sure it will come in mighty handy for wirecutting. I honestly don't think anyone who was responsible for procurring this crap had ever worn or used it, ever, let alone on operations.

[bluffcove]

The British Military deem it a valuable piece of kit and an efficent means of winning the fight through. Presuambly this means they prefer carrying it to not carrying it.

I dont want to get personal but i have friends - all of whom are capable of extracting my bayonet scabbard for me should i need it!

The Infantry carry enough ****e already, the Bayonet is not another piece of equipment, its a knife with another use. I wouldnt carry a Kbar / Fairburne sykes / fighting knife - AND a bayonet Id carry a bayonet. (and a leatherman) Its not extra kit its necesary kit.

[Hydro]

If I remember correctly, it was the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders.


I'm pretty sure it was both, the Tigers were attached to the Argylls BG.



I think some folks are getting confused, or at least some wires are getting crossed. The bayonet does not replace the rifle in the fight through, it supplements it. If you're clearing a trench system and you run into a stoppage you can still remove any immediate threats before remedial action. Bayonets WERE used in Iraq as part of British assaults on enemy positions, and there are no complaints from the guys involved in those actions. This at least shows the bayonet still has a place in modern warfare.

[Hollis]

I did a search, "wounds by type" + "Combat"

http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/korea/reister/ch3.htm

I think what would be interesting, if Poster would let the reader know what Military Unit they were in or in.

Sounds like in the UK there is more of a passion for Bayonets.

By Bias comes from, I am A U.S. Marine, My tour of duty was in Viet-Nam in 1969, on the DMZ, I was with three units, IIIMAF, Lema 3/3 and India 3/3.

TAR Mutter's ridge, Cam Lo, LZ Stud (Vandergift) payable, rockpile, razor back, C2, Leatherneck Square, Dong Ha, Quang Tri, Con Thien. ( you can google what happened there)

as I mention earlier, I doubt if 50% of my company had bayonets, K bars were No 1 choice for knives(few around), I carried a Hunting knife.

[Hydro]

Vietnam 1969, Quang Tri and Con Thien and then some, I don't think I need to Google that stuff, honoured to have your experience and opinion here :)


There's certainly a passion in the Infantry for the bayonet, it's the undisputed symbol of the Infantry and fits perfectly with the mission of close in and destroy the enemy. Bayonet training is still taught and taken seriously, and we are trained in it's use in close quarters. There's no "bayonet charge" as such, but its more a case of "If you've posted the grenade and given your automatic burst into the bunker and there's a need for it, don't hesitate to use that bayonet". I stress I have not yet seen any action, let alone any that would necessitate running someone through.

[LaoSexMachine]

Everyone I knew put their bayonets in their packs. K-bar was what everyone carried.

[Hollis]

Vietnam 1969, Quang Tri and Con Thien and then some, I don't think I need to Google that stuff, honoured to have your experience and opinion here :)


There's certainly a passion in the Infantry for the bayonet, it's the undisputed symbol of the Infantry and fits perfectly with the mission of close in and destroy the enemy. Bayonet training is still taught and taken seriously, and we are trained in it's use in close quarters. There's no "bayonet charge" as such, but its more a case of "If you've posted the grenade and given your automatic burst into the bunker and there's a need for it, don't hesitate to use that bayonet". I stress I have not yet seen any action, let alone any that would necessitate running someone through.

Thank you, I don't think the bayonet is going to be buried somewhere, Heck the Marines still have the NCO sword, Officers have swords. There will always be ceremonies/parades.

I think in the US military, it more a fighting knife than afixing it on a rifle. Many of the Knives, like the famous Yarbough Knife given at graduation of SF selection and completion of Q, is not made to be afixed to a rifle. The Marine K bar is another example.

[East Scout]

When i was a kid i had a OD green M16...I found a steakknife in the yard burried in the dirt...I took some masking tape and taped it to the end of the barrel and had at it on a sack of pototes in the kitchen..I was winning until I heard the door open and close behind me and there was my dad who had just go off duty in his cammies and baret....He started to smile and say something until Mom walked in the room then he had no choice but to put on the dad face.......I got in big troubles but i knew dad thought that was pretty cool by that look.....

Fond memory..Just thought ide share it..

[Hollis]

When i was a kid i had a OD green M16...I found a steakknife in the yard burried in the dirt...I took some masking tape and taped it to the end of the barrel and had at it on a sack of pototes in the kitchen..I was winning until I heard the door open and close behind me and there was my dad who had just go off duty in his cammies and baret....He started to smile and say something until Mom walked in the room then he had no choice but to put on the dad face.......I got in big troubles but i knew dad thought that was pretty cool by that look.....

Fond memory..Just thought ide share it..


Thank you very much for the chuckle............. Great story.

[Adam Wilhelm]

I must say that the scene in "*****sburg" were the 20th Maine fix their bayonets give me the chill.

[akmarksman]

Bayonet charge in RVN, which movie was that in, I never had a bayonet in RVN, I doubt if 50 % of my company did either............ as for as action, Google, Mutter's Ridge,

do you have the incident they were used......... I was on the D in '69. outside of crowd control, I don't see it really being used.

"We Were Soldiers" Mel Gibson.

[Durandal]

"We Were Soldiers" Mel Gibson.

Actually, it was la Drang

Funny you brought it up though...found this little gem...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Ia_Drang_Col._Moore_and_north_vietnamese_casualties.jpg

That's Moore btw...with a bayonet on the end of his rifle...

[Royal]

There is a Colonalist web site set up and run by Members of the US Special Forces (Green Berets) They have a good read on bayonets. Many who posted are Combat Veterans, Life long members of that noble service,,,,,,,,, So I would think their opinion would amount to something.

Whilst not wanting to let the "cat out of the bag" you can read that thread, apply it to your experience.. and we can go from there.

For those WHO walk for a Living, carring another item means carring less of something esle, Ammo is still the Number 1 perfered choice to carry something of. Now if you ride, heck...another story.

There is a vast difference between the role of SF and that of infantry (of whatever kind). SF generally don't carry bayonets - because they don't plan on taking and holding ground - indeed except for DA operations (a small minority of their taskings) any kind of engagement means that the op was a failure.

The bayonet provide the infantryman with an additional method of attaining moral superiority over the enemy. The L85 bayonet is by no means perfect and the scabard even less so. But it does the job - in training and in war.

[Hollis]

"We Were Soldiers" Mel Gibson.

Hollyweird? They are not noted for accuracy, they are know for effects.

[Hollis]

There is a vast difference between the role of SF and that of infantry (of whatever kind). SF generally don't carry bayonets - because they don't plan on taking and holding ground - indeed except for DA operations (a small minority of their taskings) any kind of engagement means that the op was a failure.

The bayonet provide the infantryman with an additional method of attaining moral superiority over the enemy. The L85 bayonet is by no means perfect and the scabard even less so. But it does the job - in training and in war.

Correct, but there are RA (regular Army) people who are on that site too.

Again, what I notice is that UK military attitude is different from the states on bayonets. It also seems that Non-military people have a similar attitude about bayonets.

[bluffcove]

Simply put, the training in the Uk, whilst it does not make you reliant on the bayonet for assaulting positions, makes you wonder how you would assault without one.

It is part of the training part of the routine and it is accepted practice that bayonets will be fixed prior to the fight through, It can be done without, it is dont without and it isnt necesarily always used, but not to carry one would be alien and strange.

[welshmann]

Simply put, the training in the Uk, whilst it does not make you reliant on the bayonet for assaulting positions, makes you wonder how you would assault without one.

It is part of the training part of the routine and it is accepted practice that bayonets will be fixed prior to the fight through, It can be done without, it is dont without and it isnt necesarily always used, but not to carry one would be alien and strange.

that is the best answer in this thread.

[LaoSexMachine]

The only time I remeber using my bayonet was in the bayonet assault course. I was stabbing and slashing those Ivans.

[Adam Wilhelm]

Here in sweden we just have bayonets to the Ak4 (HK G3) wich don´t fit the Ak5 (FN FNC).
And to top it all the army doesn´t issue a decent knife to the troops.

I think it would be nice to have a bayonet wich also is a decent knife.
Better to have and don´t need then to not have and need.

[bluffcove]

that is the best answer in this thread.

Why thankyou kind sir.

[Durandal]

The bayonet, at its development, several hundred years ago, was a massive advancement in armament for soldiers at the time, especially in a battlefield where the cavalry, at its twilight, still held sway and the gun while slowly replacing other infantry weapons was still in its infancy.

The bayonet to this day has been used in every conflict on or off the end of the rifle either as a tool or a weapon since its creation. Most soldiers are still taught in its use.

It is still a useful, even in the age of tanks, JADMs, and machineguns.

Those who think in a situation where two equally trained come to conflict, one armed with a knife and the other a bayonet on the end of a empty rifle, a knife has the advantage is quite mistaken.

I think that about covers it.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Much ado about two tenths of **** all as usual.

It's clear that a number of people on this thread don't understand the doctrine/concept for the use of the bayonet in Commonwealth army's. Even though it has been layed out a number of times in a number of ways.

The main role of the bayonet is in the assault. It is generally fixed to the rifle in the FUP and then used as a backup by the assaulting riflemen. As they clear a pit/position/whatever, if a stoppage occurs with their weapon system rather than hesitate at literally arms length trying to conduct an weapon IA they simply drive the bayonet through the most easily accessable piece of flesh on offer.

It doesn't matter that the bayonet affects the zero of the weapon because the ranges are short.

It doesn't matter that the opponent may be wearing BA because there are plenty of other soft squishy bits to insert said utensil.


It cracks me up that certain people sneer at the doctrine of others, considering no matter how experienced they may or may not be, they certainly haven't experienced every possible situation known to man on the field of battle.



And as stated so many times before the incident in Iraq in 2004 WASN'T a 'bayonet charge'.

[Masai]

The SANDF used to use the FN FAL rifle in the bush war with Angola, and i have heard several stories of guys using a FN FAL like a baseball bat when the need arises..

[singlesprocket]

http://com2.runboard.com/bmbc401.f2.t18

[GhOsT_TaLoN]

its ok but the handle doesnt look comfortable

[akmarksman]

eh looks ok..but I'd rather buy the Surefire Delta model.(or Alpha for that matter)

[DeltaWhisky58]

http://com2.runboard.com/bmbc401.f2.t18

That is a truly awesome forum you've posted from - one member/20 posts!

[Buckeye67]

That is a truly awesome forum you've posted from - one member/20 posts!

I like how he replies to his own threads.

[taekwonno]

If you ask me, the Surefire knives are a lot of flash and not much bang.

Give me Spyderco or Ranger any day.

www.spyderco.com
www.rangerknives.com

[East Scout]

I have a full auto switchblade made by Benchmade...SOB is the most handy peice of gear in my lot...........

[singlesprocket]

That is a truly awesome forum you've posted from - one member/20 posts!

hey thanks, keeps out the hooligans and makes posting easier lol

[DeltaWhisky58]

hey thanks, keeps out the hooligans and makes posting easier lol

Sorry, didn't you detect the hint of sarcasm in my post?

[singlesprocket]

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i46/sidvid/129-2998_IMG.jpg
out by the humber river near bolton...

[TacoDelRio]

....the heck does this have to do with small pocket knives?

AKmarksman: I tried out a Surefire knife the other day. Nice. $300 something? Ouch, not too small and handy.

Spyderco is cheaper, yet extremely high quality. It's the cheapest I would go for a knife while still having bulletproof quality. I'd stay away from FRN handles, as they fail at times.

Goodnight.

[Hollis]

sence a number on this section was interested, this was posted in the Military history section of MP.COM nout sure how many of y'all go there, Iam posting it here. It is a good read.

STEEL AGAINST FIRE: THE BAYONET IN THE FIRST WORLD WAR PDF 68KB (http://www.jmss.org/2006/2006spring/articles/engen.pdf)

[martinexsquaddie]

brother knows the cpl who was invovled in the bayonet use defintly PWrr
"entered the the trench and it was limbs and blood everywhere."
alledegedly how most nights on the lash ended with him.
apprantly when word reached his old TA unit that he'd led an assualt with bayonets used the response was a shrug and figures really.

[Turhapuro]

Isn't bayonet good if you are occupating some city and need to keep crowd under control? You don't have to shoot, you can swing it on the air and people will not get closer. If they come too close, just poke someone with it :)

(and if they come even closer, start shooting)

[jetsetter]

Post the name and photos of the knives you carry everyday.

Here is mine.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4491/kershaw4ck.jpg

[Mountain Man]

Gerber EZ Out (cheapo but has always taken a beating) on the street
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/9255/ez0eg.png

and a SOG Seal Pup on call outs with my gear.
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/6383/sog6zt.png

[ArmedPacifist]

http://www.beautytech.com/arius-eickert/images/2817L.jpg

[Blarney]

benchmade 940 SBK designed by Warren Osborne. Got it as a gift from him when I was talking with him about tactical knives. I told him his stuff was better than Emerson in which he laughed and got me the knife.
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4445/airsoft0152sp.jpg

I also use these on various kits and such:
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2599/airsoft0294hb.jpg

[Ratamacue]

SOG Flash II

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4982/fsa78openlg6ia.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Blarney]

This isnt a carry knife, but true blade lovers will apprechiate this little puppy.
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/3662/tridentshs010014oq.jpg

[TacoDelRio]

Soon to be this extreme ultra tacti-cool megaforce cutting instrument:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/Makiri.jpg
Kanetsune Little Makiri. Just gotta make a new, not wooden sheath for it.

[Zorro C9]

Just the blade on my Leatherman right now. Needs sharpening though.

[Trouble]

Gerber Paraframe 1

There isn't a day I don't use it. And it is real comfortable to carry especially in a suit, thin profile, light weight, easy to open. and real safe.

[Scaar.at]

Böker Leo Damast II. The blade is made from the steel of the main cannon from a Leopard 1 tank.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/scaarat/boeker1.jpg

http://www.boker.de/images/gross/111054dam.jpg

[Grimm]

SOG pentagon II

[scrybe]

Gerber Mini Applegate folder. Nothing special, but it's a souvenir from Fort Knox:

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6941/irawoodinc1901497727504xk.jpg

[Sabre]

Don't carry a knife everyday, but if I did it would be this:

http://www.aceros-de-hispania.com/image/victorinox-pocketknife-recruit/recruit-penknife.jpg

Mine doesn't have the tweezers/toothpick as it is quite old. Given to me by my dad when I was a kid, after I had lost a little pocketknife of my late grandfather's. I was distraught because I carried my grandad's little knife everywhere, and in the end lost it because I wouldn't leave it at home.

There's a little personal story for you all.

[Sir Zach of R.]

Gerber Paraframe 1

There isn't a day I don't use it. And it is real comfortable to carry especially in a suit, thin profile, light weight, easy to open. and real safe.

Same here. I've caught myself falling asleep with it still in my pocket.

[DeltaWhisky58]

Leatherman Micra - had it for ages, and it's always on my belt unless I have to fly somewhere, which is only about six times per year.Fantastic steel, holds an edge brilliantly.

Carying a knife is a bit difficult here in the UK - you have to be able to justify the need otherwise you can be in deep sh!t.

I have other knives I'd rather be carying, but can only justify those legally if I'm actually going hunting.

[praetorian6]

Putting this knife in my pocket is part of getting dressed in the morning. I've had this for about two years and use it every day. Nothing fancy or expensive, but works. It does have "assisted opening" which is kinda cool. When I was a kid it was a Swiss Army Knife (Thanks MacGyver!) and after that the Applegate folder, but a size up from Scrybe's, until I lost it somewhere in Fort Polk.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9455/img28719xg.jpg

[wiking]

SOG Flash II

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4982/fsa78openlg6ia.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Me to. Also have a Benchmade Snody Neck\Boot knife that i wear on and off.

[Thunder]

Spyderco Endura. You can literally shave with it.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1871/c10pbk1is.jpg

[buckeyedoc]

My everyday carry.

http://www.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/smithwes/images/SW117.jpg

[jetsetter]

It does have "assisted opening" which is kinda cool.

My knife also has "assisted opening". Basically a finger powered switch blade. In California switch blades are illegal.

[praetorian6]

My knife also has "assisted opening". Basically a finger powered switch blade. In California switch blades are illegal.

Switchblades are illegal here too, unless you are military or a LEO. However, these skirt the issue rather nicely and are alot cheaper. p-) There's no way I'm dropping $300 for a half-way decent switchblade.

[wiking]

Switchblades are illegal here too, unless you are military or a LEO. However, these skirt the issue rather nicely and are alot cheaper. p-) There's no way I'm dropping $300 for a half-way decent switchblade.


Assisted opening is bloody usefull too if you only have one hand available when you need the knife.

[Steve Andrews]

I have "****-loads" of knives - and I favour Benchmade. This M2 Mini RSK (at the bottom) is getting carried a lot at the moment:
http://img276.imageshack.us/img276/1936/00108va.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[dave81]

Aside from high-speed ninja types and woodsmen, exactly what "everyday" reason is there to carry a knife? Daily throat slittings and 550 paracord ****ytrap making? Don't get me wrong, I love knives and edged weapons as much as the next guy, but aside from the occasional package and bit of string, how much "everyday" use are these $75 knives seeing? Would a $2 knife from the local gas station not suffice? The knife I would really love to own is the Kershaw Rainbow Leek, but I can't justify spending $60 for something I'll barely use.
As is the case with Wheke C9, the only blade I carry with me is on my multi-tool, and that's only at work.

[American Patriot]

I like to carry sharp and pointy things in my pants and cheap grocery store knives don't stay sharp very long and wear out quicker.

[Steve Andrews]

Would a $2 knife from the local gas station not suffice?

Yes, probably. A Honda Civic would suffice for most people, but some of them drive Aston Martins...

[American Patriot]

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/5959/phot0022large3cv.jpg

[TacoDelRio]

Aside from high-speed ninja types and woodsmen, exactly what "everyday" reason is there to carry a knife? Daily throat slittings and 550 paracord ****ytrap making? Don't get me wrong, I love knives and edged weapons as much as the next guy, but aside from the occasional package and bit of string, how much "everyday" use are these $75 knives seeing? Would a $2 knife from the local gas station not suffice? The knife I would really love to own is the Kershaw Rainbow Leek, but I can't justify spending $60 for something I'll barely use.
As is the case with Wheke C9, the only blade I carry with me is on my multi-tool, and that's only at work.

I agree.

However $2 at a gas station is a piece of sh*t. Pay $75 now for a good solid knife from a good brand (Spyderco or whoever) and it will last you for a long time.

A super cheapo knife is money wasted. Money I could spend on tacos instead.

[Buckeye67]

I'm happy with my CQC-7A:

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6127/cqc7a9dg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[onefast93z28]

No pics, but I carry a $15 Gerber I bought at walmart all day, everyday.

[dave81]

Nice Emerson. At $200 plus it's a little pricey for my own "everyday" needs, but if I were to go all out this is the version that I want:

http://hersir.homestead.com/files/EmersonCustoms/EmersonErnest_CQC6_2000.jpg

The handmade (not factory-made) CQC custom built by Ernie Emerson himself, pricetag $4000.

[praetorian6]

Aside from high-speed ninja types and woodsmen, exactly what "everyday" reason is there to carry a knife? Daily throat slittings and 550 paracord ****ytrap making? Don't get me wrong, I love knives and edged weapons as much as the next guy, but aside from the occasional package and bit of string, how much "everyday" use are these $75 knives seeing? Would a $2 knife from the local gas station not suffice? The knife I would really love to own is the Kershaw Rainbow Leek, but I can't justify spending $60 for something I'll barely use.
As is the case with Wheke C9, the only blade I carry with me is on my multi-tool, and that's only at work.

The reason I carry a knife everyday is because I like to stab people, everyday. The cheap $2 knives at the local gas station have blades that just break off. :|

Seriously, it's a tool that I use all the time. I can't even begin to account for all the things I use it for besides just cutting stuff. To top it off I also carry a Gerber MultiTool most of the time as well.


Assisted opening is bloody usefull too if you only have one hand available when you need the knife.

Yep, which is about 80% of the time.

[AFJROTC55]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/EMANAFPJ/col-crm16-13z.jpg

my CRKT M16, old style, i carry it everywhere, i wanna get a Merlin for it so i can load it right onto my PFD out on the water. when i get up in the morning, three things go in my pocket, my phone, my wallet and my knife, i sharpen it every other day, the thing never leaves my sight, not a day goes by when i dont use it for something, since im only 17, i always get people who ask me "why do you carry a knife, there's no point" and i swear, ninety percent of the time, not 5 minutes later they need it for something

1*

[Kersh]

No pics, but I always have a Smith & Wesson Special Ops that I found in the dirt at Robin Sage about 3 years ago. I also have my Leatherman Wave on my belt at all times. I like to have a heavy duty, defensive weapon and a practical all-purpose tool at the same time.

[akmarksman]

I carry a $5 special from the hardware store..use it almost daily..I don't sharpen it much either..

[quarter-recon]

Spyderco Endura, holds its edge - is cheap - and does everything I need a knife to do.

[Henry's Fork]

Soon to be this extreme ultra tacti-cool megaforce cutting instrument:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/Makiri.jpg
Kanetsune Little Makiri. Just gotta make a new, not wooden sheath for it.

Very nice. The wooden sheaths look great, though not something i would want to carry while backpacking or fishing. Good idea of yours to make a more rugged sheath.

Been thinking of one of these guys for a while.
http://www.kt-cutler.com/eng/e_cw5.html

My everyday carry is a CS Gunsite2.

[TacoDelRio]

Very nice. The wooden sheaths look great, though not something i would want to carry while backpacking or fishing. Good idea of yours to make a more rugged sheath.

Been thinking of one of these guys for a while.
http://www.kt-cutler.com/eng/e_cw5.html

My everyday carry is a CS Gunsite2.

The sheath is alright. It clacks around a little bit, and will probably swell up in wet weather, and start to flake in dry weather. I'm going to try and make my own sheath, as small as possible.

[Death.]

The sheath is alright. It clacks around a little bit, and will probably swell up in wet weather, and start to flake in dry weather. I'm going to try and make my own sheath, as small as possible.

What about the handle on the 'butter' knife ? :D

[TacoDelRio]

What about the handle on the 'butter' knife ? :D

It's oak or maple or something. I'm too lazy to look it up. It's a high quality wood (heh, you said wood). It looks and feels great, plus I don't look like too much of a ninja wannabe carrying it. More like a rennaisance faire faggot, but who's counting? p-)

[Trouble]

Same here. I've caught myself falling asleep with it still in my pocket.


lol... yea me too. I kinda like that too, I can sleep with it and be confortable but still have it if needed......

[SGMGSG9]

http://www.advanced-design-service.com/9100.jpg

This Benchmade Auto Stryker is my every day carry. Funny part is I have to leave it in the car when I go in to the plant. The same plant where I test fire weapons of all types all day long, with access to ammo & crew served machine guns.....Wouldn't want me flipping out & cutting anything now would we? LOL This has always puzzled me. B)

[TacoDelRio]

http://www.advanced-design-service.com/9100.jpg

This Benchmade Auto Stryker is my every day carry. Funny part is I have to leave it in the car when I go in to the plant. The same plant where I test fire weapons of all types all day long, with access to ammo & crew served machine guns.....Wouldn't want me flipping out & cutting anything now would we? LOL This has always puzzled me. B)

Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

Good stuff!

[Hollis]

Just remember dudes, never smile with a knife in your hand, you wouldn't want to be known as a "gay blade".:hug:

[GhOsT_TaLoN]

http://www.dantesknife.com/08445.jpg
it was pretty cheap but its all i need

[AFJROTC55]

my last knife was a paraframe, absolutely awesome knife, light, easy, effective, sharp, cool color, funny story, i was going to a concert. Metallica i think, yeah, and i had it in my boot, and i forgot i had it ( a tribute to it's low profile and weight), and they had metal detectors, so i had to trash the thing, bastar*s wouldnt hold it for me,

1*

[dangerdan87]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/hands.jpg

[TacoDelRio]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/hands.jpg

Pfff what's that, AUS-6? Not even worth carrying. p-)

[punchinout]

http://www.dantesknife.com/08445.jpg
it was pretty cheap but its all i need


thats what i carry every day too, i have all 3 of the para frames, the mini one...the medium sized one?? and the larger one.

[Deftoner]

Don't carry a knife everyday, but if I did it would be this:

http://www.aceros-de-hispania.com/image/victorinox-pocketknife-recruit/recruit-penknife.jpg

Mine doesn't have the tweezers/toothpick as it is quite old. Given to me by my dad when I was a kid, after I had lost a little pocketknife of my late grandfather's. I was distraught because I carried my grandad's little knife everywhere, and in the end lost it because I wouldn't leave it at home.

There's a little personal story for you all.

I carry the same Swiss (until recently, lost it sumwheres...:-() Im really into my blades, but can't justify carrying a super delta ninja blade. I've used the bottle opener and screwdriver on my swiss knife more than the blade.

My Dad gave me mine to.....

[Asheren]

http://www.militaria.pl/cocoon/gfx/produkty/6/joker_ll62_w.jpg

I plan to buy myself two of those next month and propably a new bayonet/combat knife for my summer trips. Can't carry a knife in normal day unfortunatly.

[tango44]

Spyderco Bob Lum Tanto Folder. My Daily Carry!!

[Christophe]

Eickhorn Solingen PRT V

I carry it on me while on patrol every day, as well as a Leatherman.Both are handy tools.

[TacoDelRio]

Spyderco Bob Lum Tanto Folder. My Daily Carry!!

I had no idea Bob Lum made a folder, and Spyderco produced it as a production knife. I've only seen his fixed blade produced by Spyderco.

[tango44]

I had no idea Bob Lum made a folder, and Spyderco produced it as a production knife. I've only seen his fixed blade produced by Spyderco.
It was a Production Item until 2002 after that they didn't make it any More wait for me for tomorrow I will bring my camera and I will post some pics.

[TacoDelRio]

It was a Production Item until 2002 after that they didn't make it any More wait for me for tomorrow I will bring my camera and I will post some pics.

I haven't been up-to-date on their product lineup for long, maybe 2 years. Come to think of it, you don't see many Spyderco tantos at all.

Cool beans, thank you sir.

[Caveman]

I carry A silver trident but back home its a CRKT m16

[TacoDelRio]

Silver Trident, heard it's a great knife with a super comfy handle.

Stay safe.

[Grimm]

I carry A silver trident but back home its a CRKT m16


What kinda west is that?

[Zentrum Jagdkampf]

http://www.crkt.com/images/M16MIL06.jpg

I use The CRKT M-16-14M.(the middle one)

[Yeoman]

I had a m16-a4 till cutting a thousand sand bags dulled the hell out of it, and then I lost it (dammit it was a good knife too)
I got it for free from the kit shop.
but the knife I carry around now is my jump knife (I forget it's actual name from the company though).
Greg

[Randomrokottaja]

What is the point in carrying a knife every day?

[TacoDelRio]

What is the point in carrying a knife every day?

For cutting stuff.

That was a real hard answer.

[American Patriot]

why the hell not, i drive everyday what if I have to cut a seatbelt for example

[Deftoner]

CAROLINA KNIFE Torsion Liner Lock Blade
http://i15.ebayimg.com/03/i/06/0f/3a/71_1.JPGhttp://www.amback.com/images/greensupply/carolinapic6808.jpg

Im currently carrying this, its actually a really nice knife with a pretty unusual (to me anyways) lock liner system and rubber coated grip, despite the cheap price. Just wish I could find my swiss army knife... :(

[Randomrokottaja]

For cutting stuff.

That was a real hard answer.

For cutting what stuff? I don't usually need to cut any stuff and if i need, i'm usually in the kitchen with various knives or outside the urban environment where man also certainly needs a knife.

But when i'm going to the supermarket i have nothing to cut, and no need to carry anything to cut with.

[Sabre]

Oh, I forgot! I do actually carry a knife with me every day.

I keep one of these in my wallet:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004YVAK.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Scissors are always more useful than a knife usually. Means I can tidy up my nails before an important meeting....

[gtronin]

For cutting what stuff? I don't usually need to cut any stuff and if i need, i'm usually in the kitchen with various knives or outside the urban environment where man also certainly needs a knife.

But when i'm going to the supermarket i have nothing to cut, and no need to carry anything to cut with.

for day to day stuff a swiss army knife is the most handy, for example somtimes I use it to discard the unnecesary packaging in the supermarket before taking it home, let them take care of the garbage...

I usually carry a folder that I have had for years and at least one swiss army knife in my backpack. I once bought a box of swiss army knives and just keep them around, they also make good gifts.

[Sabre]

I carry the same Swiss (until recently, lost it sumwheres...:-() Im really into my blades, but can't justify carrying a super delta ninja blade. I've used the bottle opener and screwdriver on my swiss knife more than the blade.

My Dad gave me mine to.....

Yeah, it's a proper dad thing to do! I've had a few more swiss army knives from my dad:

Hunstman:
http://www.thebladeshop.com/ProductImages/victorinox/53261.jpg

Outrider:
http://www.grovelands.com/acatalog/outrider-swiss-army-knife.jpg

The lockable blade series are really good. They solve the only major drawback of the traditional swiss. I'm a fan of these knives, if you don't need a pair of pliers, then they are much better value than gerbers or leathermans.

I still mainly just use the scissors though!

[Deftoner]

Yeah, it's a proper dad thing to do! I've had a few more swiss army knives from my dad:

The lockable blade series are really good. They solve the only major drawback of the traditional swiss. I'm a fan of these knives, if you don't need a pair of pliers, then they are much better value than gerbers or leathermans.

I still mainly just use the scissors though!

Yeah, I agree.... I have never liked the "Leatherman" type tool (its not really a knife is it...) I'd take a Swiss army anyday. Gonna look for a new one this weekend. :)

[Sabre]

@Deftoner: I own a leatherman for military work because pliers are fairly useful when working with machinery/weapons, but I wouldn't take one away hiking with me. I use my swiss army knives for that, and maybe take a fixed blade if I fancy messing around in the woods somewhere.

Here's the other knives in my 'collection'

Gerber Gator, partially serrated folding lock-blade:

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/eccStoreFront/stp/product_images/73472/F_73472_1.jpg

Great knife. Mine is a later version without the stud/lug on the blade.

Mora/Frost Army knife:

http://www.ragweedforge.com/760mg.jpg

Carbon steel blade. Made in Sweden. Very nice knife for outdoor work. Absolute bargain at £7.

Mora 2000:

http://www.recon.se/images/Mora%202000%20(kniv%20och%20slida)%20sm.jpg

Another great swedish knife. More sturdy than the frost knife.

[Caveman]

What kinda west is that?
I Don't understand the question. sorry

[Sabre]

Your vest mate.

[jerka71_1]

why the hell not, i drive everyday what if I have to cut a seatbelt for example

http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/6729/hookknife6xx.jpg


If that is the reason you should get one of these.p-)

[Caveman]

The Vest
Its just the standard issue IBA with a spec ops chest harness that I modified so I Can snap it on and off with ease also I have a pouch to the left side to hold my tac light. the spec ops chest harness sucks I know but Its just temperary until I go home.

[Randomrokottaja]

http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/6729/hookknife6xx.jpg


If that is the reason you should get one of these.p-)

That can be too difficult to use in a real emergency situation if man hasn't used to use it before. A normal knife is much simplier solution but that can be kept in the car without carrying it all the time.

Somehow attached to the car preventin it from flying away while the car is flying or turning around.;)

I don't still have no idea why i would need to carry a knife daily in normal life in urban environment. While "in the park" it is then different story and i never go there without a knife.

[Sabre]

The Vest
Its just the standard issue IBA with a spec ops chest harness that I modified so I Can snap it on and off with ease also I have a pouch to the left side to hold my tac light. the spec ops chest harness sucks I know but Its just temperary until I go home.

They do suck, badly. Bought one in ACU off ebay, apart from having to paint it green to avoid having the p!ss ripped out of me by the lads, the straps are clumsy and the rig isn't supported well. It droops in the middle. I could probably knock up a better rig myself.

[Smok]

http://www.scentsandscentsibility.co.uk/stock/image/victorinox/mountaineer-1374300.jpg

Victorinox Mountaineer.

[jerka71_1]

That can be too difficult to use in a real emergency situation if man hasn't used to use it before. A normal knife is much simplier solution but that can be kept in the car without carrying it all the time.

Somehow attached to the car preventin it from flying away while the car is flying or turning around.;)

I don't still have no idea why i would need to carry a knife daily in normal life in urban environment. While "in the park" it is then different story and i never go there without a knife.

Keep it taped on the back of the "sun screen". This type of knifes are made for emergencies. The last thing you want after rolling in your car is punctuate yourself aswell.

But hey that´s just my opinion!

[Randomrokottaja]

Keep it taped on the back of the "sun screen". This type of knifes are made for emergencies. The last thing you want after rolling in your car is punctuate yourself aswell.

But hey that´s just my opinion!

Thats why taped to somewhere, where it can't get ripped off in a crash and possible injure the driver or other people in the car, but could still be reachable by hands.

[REMOV]

I use The CRKT M-16-14M.(the middle one)Quite a nice knife, but a little bit too long for everyday use.

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/6813/nife21iv.jpg
That's mine ;)

[California Joe]

Leatherman Micro.

http://www.completeoutdoors.co.uk/catalog/images/tools/micro.jpg

[TacoDelRio]

For cutting what stuff? I don't usually need to cut any stuff and if i need, i'm usually in the kitchen with various knives or outside the urban environment where man also certainly needs a knife.

But when i'm going to the supermarket i have nothing to cut, and no need to carry anything to cut with.

Sorry if I sounded like an ass.

For cutting anything you need to cut is the best answer I can come up with. I work in the high-speed dangerous world of retail, where I must cut boxes and stuff often. In my days off, I gotta cut open boxes of ammo, stab random objects for humorous reasons, and work on various basic things.

Aside from that, having a knife for self defense feels better than having nothing. I do have training, not alot, but I feel confident and safe while carrying a knife. Most of it is up to attitude and the way you carry yourself. I always carry a knife on me regardless, unless I'm in an airport or something sensitive like that.

I also worked in wonderful parts of Los Angeles doing construction with my buddie's company, based in Compton. Not only could I use a larger knife (5.0 inches or so) for the actual work required, but that on your side, a positive attitude, and a smile also seemed to deter the folks who always ask for money. If you've ever worked in Compton, Watts, Lynwood, etc, you'll know what I mean. :-*$

[scrybe]

I've had a knife in my pockets since I was a boy scout. When I was young and I got that whittlin' chit, it was empowering to carry a knife. Then later I realised it was practical every once in a while to have a little knife in my pocket. Then I got older and started carrying bigger knives. Now, my knife is just part of my everyday carry. Wallet, cell phone, car keys, knife, etc.

However, I will concede that my knife is like my chapstick; I don't use it very often, but if one day I reach in my pocket and realise I forgot to grab it, my lips instantly go dry and crack. I may not actually use my knife for four or five days in a row, but then that one day I forgot it, it seems like I'm miraculously put into some kind of MacGuyver/Indiana Jones situation wishing I had my damn knife.

[TacoDelRio]

You're right! You'll need it when you don't have it!

[Smok]

If you don't carry a knife you think, that you don't need it. If you carry a knife you can't imagine, that you could live without carrying it.

[TacoDelRio]

If you don't carry a knife you think, that you don't need it. If you carry a knife you can't imagine, that you could live without carrying it.

OMEGA7 moved to Poland? rofl

[dave81]

Quite...nice...but a little bit too long for everyday use.
That's what she said!

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

[Phazed]

http://home.houston.rr.com/quijanos/DSCF4666.JPG
The bottom one in this pic...



http://www.mattandpamazon.com/images/matt/USN_badge_01.jpg

And the small one in the middle in this pic.

Thanks!

[Mojo]

The bottom one in the first pic is a HAK or hideaway knife. More info can be found at www.hideawayknife.com.

[maw]

yeah the first one is indeed a hak. the second one i thought was by an australian maker called dav winch 'coz thelogo is similar and then i remembered - its by a japanese maker, can't remember the name. not koji hara. tad gear carried some of his knives including this number, you might try calling them.

[maw]

i remember now, i'm pretty sure the knife is by Kikuo Matsuda, sold under the kiku knives brand.

[Phazed]

awesome thanks guys

[GhOsT_TaLoN]

[quote=punchinout]thats what i carry every day too, i have all 3 of the para frames, the mini one...the medium sized one?? and the larger one.[/quote

i only thave the small and the medium sized ones. i dont really use the small one though.

[GothicSnake]

http://www.gerbertools.com/Img_L/1409.jpg

That's the last knife I owned (lost it :( ). The only difference being the blade was black and the grip was grey/black.

[kayaker]

http://www.thesavvytraveller.com/agraphics/tools/victorinox/knives/models/swiss_champ.jpg

Vic champ, old school me. Be replaced with spyderco and Swiss Tool, someday...

[LaoSexMachine]

I don't need a knife. I use my super power: bitchslapping.

[Old Dominion]

Top is an early Benchmade stryker. It's my work knife and is well used. Bottom is my home or "dress knife" it's a Kershaw 1670RD.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/TimDawg/Picture145_edited.jpg

[TacoDelRio]

I don't need a knife. I use my super power: bitchslapping.
Hahahahah that's awesome!

BTW, the Kershaw you've got up there is one of the best EDC knives for the money! Super sharp, well made, excellent craftsmanship, etc. Super sharp out of the box.

[Blarney]

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/3662/tridentshs010014oq.jpg
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/2281/tridentshs010027ej.jpg

actually I cant sell it on here...but its a nice Custom knife though...

[Sparky2129]

What particular model is this? It doesn't resemble any of their "TCFM" line. The sheath features tek-lok attachment yeah?

[Blarney]

SHS-01, look at the pic. This is a custom one.

and yes, the tek lok attachment is there, I have mounted it on the 6004 as opposed the the SEAL Pup and it works beautifully.

[Enduring Freedom]

I hate to be a partybooper but....


14.Until further notice, there will be no soliciting allowed on the MP.net forums. Do not attempt to sell or advertise anything here. This means in the public forum as well as the PM. Until specific rules about solicitation on MP.net are published, Moderator Judgment will be the law of the land. If you are not sure if you are in violation of this guidline, ask a Mod. Asking permission instead of forgivness is the rule of thumb for ridht now.

[Adam Wilhelm]

I switched my Benchmade 520 Presidio for a Emerson Super CQC-7BW BT.
It´s rather large but what the hell.

[ZaakM433]

but hes not soliciting, hes just showing some photos of a nice knife and sharing an experience at a knife show.

oh and what do you know?

Its for sale... btw... not that its the point of the thread.

[ed316]

I don't carry a knife on my person but I have a spyderco in my glove compartment. Just in case I need to cut the seatbelt. You never know.

[Blarney]

ahhh poop. Havent seen the rules in a while...Ill just "share my experiences..."

[LordHalbert]

I used to carry a Boker Ceramic knife - even carried it on a plane once (carry on). Metal detector did not detect it :)

That was shorty after 9/11 and I was a little cautious and wanted to have something in case some @sshole tried it again.

One downside with Ceramic blades is that it chips, however, it doesn't get dull as fast as metal. It's sharp as all hell, that's for sure. If I had been on one of those hijacked planes, I think I could taken out 3 or 4 of em - I'm also trained in martial arts.

[James]

http://www.benchmade.com/products/product_detail.aspx?model=10210

[Laconian]

http://www.benchmade.com/products/product_detail.aspx?model=3550

I just got my CQC-7 back from Emerson and started carrying it again.
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8272/cqc7bsfsthumb8rc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[silveykyle]

Any recommendations on knives under $200 and where to buy?
thanks

[Buckeye67]

This may help (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=8&nojs=1#goto_forumsearch)

[taekwonno]

What are you looking to do with it?

If you need a big fixed camp blade, you can't go wrong with Ranger Knives.

www.rangerknives.com


If you want a carry folder, I recommend just about anything Spyderco.

[Hollis]

Look at lone wolf knives, quite a collection of well made knives from some very good knife manufacturers.

One Knife I am thinking of buying... is Harsey T-2 or T-3. I am on another forum where Bill Harsey posts, I thought I knew a little about knives, but after reading his pos... All I can say, wow I knew so little.

I guess I am not a big knife person, to me it is more a tool than anything else.

[Hispeed1]

What are you going to use it for? For a daily carry folder, I highly recommend the Benchmade line. I personally use the full-sized Benchmade Stryker. It has a very ergonomic handle. I carry one with a black finish, tanto tip with a partially serrated blade.

[TacoDelRio]

Look at lone wolf knives, quite a collection of well made knives from some very good knife manufacturers.

One Knife I am thinking of buying... is Harsey T-2 or T-3. I am on another forum where Bill Harsey posts, I thought I knew a little about knives, but after reading his pos... All I can say, wow I knew so little.

I guess I am not a big knife person, to me it is more a tool than anything else.

I've got one of the full size "tactical" models with a 4.8in blade. It's a hugeass knife. The T2 would be great.


To answer the post author's question.... mm hmm.....

SPYDERCO. :)

[silveykyle]

Thanks for help everyone

[East Scout]

K-bar...........

Es

[nbx00]

CRKT Columbia River M16 12M Military Folding Knife
BRAND NEW - Never used, never sharpened.
Get this knife at a LOW PRICE
- This knife has been discontinued by CRKT so it is getting harder to find.
- Hard Anodized Olive Drab Handle
- Black-Teflon-plated Blade
- Designed by the famous knife maker Kit Carson

Go to this url to check out this DEAL:
http://nbox00.tripod.com
____________________________________________________
**Sorry, can not meet buyer in person, buyer will have to pay shipping fee.
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[StukaJr]

Welcome to MilPhotos.net!

Please take a minute to read forum rules - sticky in the General Topic:



14.Until further notice, there will be no soliciting allowed on the MP.net forums. Do not attempt to sell or advertise anything here. This means in the public forum as well as the PM. Until specific rules about solicitation on MP.net are published, Moderator Judgment will be the law of the land. If you are not sure if you are in violation of this guidline, ask a Mod. Asking permission instead of forgivness is the rule of thumb for ridht now.


That means that you can't sell stuff either. I'd erase this before a mod erases it for ya

Thanks and better luck on E-Bay... and do have a good day

[p$ycho+log!cal]

nice knife

[xav92p]

Hello,
I’m looking for pics of knives on BHI Omega cross draw vest.
It’s my vest for police mission and training, and I wish ad on my vest my little “Ultima Ratio – Schrapnel “ knive.
Not found with Google.
Thanks for help.

[Royal]

If you're a policeman why do you need a knife?

[Scaar.at]

to cut things maybe?

Oh, and he is talking about the Extrema Ratio Shrapnel i guess.

http://www.usmcpro.com/photos/produit/BP431GC.jpg

[ibstolidude]

If you're a policeman why do you need a knife?
If you are a policeman why do you go with a crossdraw? p-)

[Deicide]

Hello,
I’m looking for pics of knives on BHI Omega cross draw vest.
It’s my vest for police mission and training, and I wish ad on my vest my little “Ultima Ratio – Schrapnel “ knive.
Not found with Google.
Thanks for help.

Are you satisfied of your UR schrapnel?
I intend to buy the same model (without upper guard though) and i would like your opinion.

[bluffcove]

I know a guy that has that knife and has the vest, why dont you contact him and get him to take the photos for you?

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=15414

[DIMES]

If you're a policeman why do you need a knife?

Might have something to do with a knife being a superior hand to hand combat weapon.

Easy test for you to take. have a friend hold a toy gun infront of you inside your arms reach. Now grab the gun and point it away from you. Repeat test with a knife. If you can not figure it out, you will pull a fingerless hand away when you try to take it.

Last I knew cops engage badguys at contact range ALOT.

Knife for a cop don't sound so stupid now. If it still does, just remember.... There is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid answers. You just gave this guy a stupid answer.

My answer is to get a molle vest and customize it as needed. Sheathes that attach to molle vests can be had by themselves.

All he needs to do is to search for molle vests or military equipment or police equipment and he will find the vest he likes, and the sheath

he could start at

www.blackhawk.com

[Bobcharge]

Might have something to do with a knife being a superior hand to hand combat weapon.

Easy test for you to take. have a friend hold a toy gun infront of you inside your arms reach. Now grab the gun and point it away from you. Repeat test with a knife. If you can not figure it out, you will pull a fingerless hand away when you try to take it.

Last I knew cops engage badguys at contact range ALOT.

Knife for a cop don't sound so stupid now. If it still does, just remember.... There is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid answers. You just gave this guy a stupid answer.


How old are you, kid?

[scrybe]

Haha, I was just thinking the same thing.

[DIMES]

How old are you, kid?

*** yawn ***

[xav92p]

OK
Knives for cops, it's not for fighting.. you have a gradation: hand, ASP or PR24, and gun.
If you are lucky you can use a TASER.
My knive is used for opening travel bags, and more utility operations when I need a fixed blade. Usually I use a Leatherman. But if you want donate to me a Master of defense Mark 1, I m OK .

The cross draw holster, I use it when I'm waiting on the car, before action...The cross draw holster is better if you need you gun when sitting, and after it is for securised the "bad guy weapons".

Using a fixed knive like back up on fight......I m not trained, I m not Steven Seagal.

[DIMES]

It is tricky, but a knife on the vest and one clipped in each pocket might come in handy if you are over powered and can get a hand on one of them.

An easy one a buddy of mine uses (cop and was trainded to do so). Depending on how you are pinned and if you do not mind killing the person. If you are pinned on your back, secure a knife in either hand (hold tight), if it is a folder it better open assisted or easily. next open the knife, take both knees and shove the badguy forward. Insert knife just above his knee on the backside of leg. hold knife tight, there will be alot of blood. Take the knife and run it up the back of his leg toward the butt. You have now cut the femoral artery. Death will soon follow.

If you miss the leg then you will get the butt area, or the ********s. This is a tricky maneuver and can be bad for you if it does not work and are not trained on what to do next.

[Royal]

Dimes - quit tossing it off over Cadpat, Multicam and sharp pointy things and grow up.

No body is going to learn martial arts/self defence from your post. If they need/want it they'll get it from their employer or a professional. And - if they were stupid enough to try it this side of the pond they'd be looking at a 10 stretch for manslaughter - if they were unlucky enough to actually find the poor sods femoral artery.

[USMC Tanker]

Well said, Royal.

[Bobcharge]

*** yawn ***

Past yer bed-time?

Do us a favour and don't post after watching Street Fighter films in future.

[bluffcove]

Am I the only one thinking that if pinned to the floor by an unfriendly chap that hte last thing you want to do is provide a knife into the equation?

If XAV92P already has a vest and a knife, cant he just sort this out himself, or is he talking BS?
Are you the only bloke in your group that gets to carry a knife or do the other blokes carrying knives not want to tell you their "secret" means of attaching them to their vests.

Grow up. Grow a pair.

[HoboWithAK]

It is tricky, but a knife on the vest and one clipped in each pocket might come in handy if you are over powered and can get a hand on one of them.

An easy one a buddy of mine uses (cop and was trainded to do so). Depending on how you are pinned and if you do not mind killing the person. If you are pinned on your back, secure a knife in either hand (hold tight), if it is a folder it better open assisted or easily. next open the knife, take both knees and shove the badguy forward. Insert knife just above his knee on the backside of leg. hold knife tight, there will be alot of blood. Take the knife and run it up the back of his leg toward the butt. You have now cut the femoral artery. Death will soon follow.

If you miss the leg then you will get the butt area, or the ********s. This is a tricky maneuver and can be bad for you if it does not work and are not trained on what to do next.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h303/eric802/smartchart.jpg

[StukaJr]

It is tricky, but a knife on the vest and one clipped in each pocket might come in handy if you are over powered and can get a hand on one of them.

An easy one a buddy of mine uses (cop and was trainded to do so). Depending on how you are pinned and if you do not mind killing the person. If you are pinned on your back, secure a knife in either hand (hold tight), if it is a folder it better open assisted or easily. next open the knife, take both knees and shove the badguy forward. Insert knife just above his knee on the backside of leg. hold knife tight, there will be alot of blood. Take the knife and run it up the back of his leg toward the butt. You have now cut the femoral artery. Death will soon follow.

If you miss the leg then you will get the butt area, or the ********s. This is a tricky maneuver and can be bad for you if it does not work and are not trained on what to do next.

What if your buddy is pinned on the stomach and the Bad Guy is coming really hard? What is the proper manuever then?

geez, I didn't realize that being "pinned on the ground" translates into a being involved in a dry hump by a guy, while having unempeded control of both of your arm and legs, including access to the pockets and crap clipped on one's vest... Might as well sip a skim milk cappucino while waiting for that "soon to follow death".

P.S. Does XAV92P inquire on the way to secure the knife sheath onto the vest? I'm lost on the original quiestion.

[taiaha]

P.S. Does XAV92P inquire on the way to secure the knife sheath onto the vest? I'm lost on the original quiestion.

Yeah I think he was inquiring about how to secure the sheath to his vest

[RFSU]

DIMES mate you must be real "special". The only fixed blade I carry is a Res-Q-Hook. What police force is training their officers to cut off crooks fingers and stab them? I don't know where you are from but down here that sort of stuff gets you locked up. For lethal force cops are given firearms - period. As for non lethal why would you want a knife when it is much safer both for you and the perp to use a baton, CS, taser etc?

That being said, check out this ass clown.

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/4503/76569629lf.jpg

[KaceCoyote]

A knife is like any other bit of kit you carry. It is a tool with a specific use, and it has limitations. While a knife wound may cause more trauma than a single small bore GSW, that does not translate into it being the ultimate combat tool.

If you have to use your knife to take a knife, or similar then your rifle/shotgun and pistol better be dry. This coming from a guy who still has 11 stitches in me after getting knifed. Firearms are a superior offencive weapon.

[DE_Six]

That was entertaining.

[Ewik985]

On this picture we can see Ontario Combat Seals MK3
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2016/knro32817yz.jpg
But on this foto, we have knife, which looks like MK3, but it has some difference. So who can identify this knife?:
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6007/mk3navy28sy.jpg

[ctcboy]

Do you have a high res image of that knife?

[USMC Tanker]

Looks like the issue MK3 dive knife to me. It's possible that Ontario Knife Company made a special "SEAL" version. That's the exact MK3 model that my buddy gave to me after BRC (Basic Reconaissance Course-USMC Recon & Force Recon).

[Ewik985]

No, unfortunately, I don't have any high res fotos. Is it possible to buy this special version knife?
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6007/mk3navy28sy.jpg

[Kap]

Anyways I don't know about you, but stabbing behind the knee and going up may NOT cut the femoral artery as it runs in the inside of the leg

[paul13usa]

http://www.imsplus.com/ims8f.html


USN COMBAT KNIFE

[paul13usa]

sorry didn't read your post right,but go to the same page anyhow there is a knife same blade a little different handle that is a survival knife


it's here http://www.ontarioknife.com/milissue.html hope this helps

[Creeper]

I have a MK3 MOD 0 knife here on my desk. FWIW> look for same MK3 but in MOD 1,2 or similiar. I chk out a shop for ya, seee what i can find.
After a short 'Google' search:http://cgi.ebay.com/USN-MK3-KNIFE-W-SCABBARD-NAVY-SEAL-ISSUE_W0QQitemZ320003484048QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

[TacoDelRio]

I have that knife, and after shopping for one for a few months, I couldn't find one with an upswept clip point, just the normal one.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/DSC01530.jpg

[Nine Demons God]

It is tricky, but a knife on the vest and one clipped in each pocket might come in handy if you are over powered and can get a hand on one of them.

An easy one a buddy of mine uses (cop and was trainded to do so). Depending on how you are pinned and if you do not mind killing the person. If you are pinned on your back, secure a knife in either hand (hold tight), if it is a folder it better open assisted or easily. next open the knife, take both knees and shove the badguy forward. Insert knife just above his knee on the backside of leg. hold knife tight, there will be alot of blood. Take the knife and run it up the back of his leg toward the butt. You have now cut the femoral artery. Death will soon follow.

If you miss the leg then you will get the butt area, or the ********s. This is a tricky maneuver and can be bad for you if it does not work and are not trained on what to do next.

Very amusing.

[USMC Tanker]

Ewik,

Okay, I went home and dug out my MK3 MOD 0 dive knife, and I was mistaken in my first post on this thread. My MK3 Looks like the "Ontario Knife Company Combat SEALs MK3". Sorry about the mix up...do you happen to know where I can get my hands on a new sheath for one?

Tanker

[ansonau]

As i never see soldier use pocket knife in any pic, i ask some info here~:)

Does any the national army issue pocket knife to their soldier?

What function does it includ?

[bluffcove]

Brits get a leatherman - because the new rifle cant be cleaned without one.

I think the swiss army have a knife - it includes a corkscrew!

and FFS nobody post that french army knife gag its Sh!T

[Sneeker]

Canadian Forces get a Gerber pocket tool like a leatherman i think.

[Steve Andrews]

The Swiss Army Knife - no corkscrew:
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1156/0861026gsoldiercs5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

There is a German Army Knife:
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/8681/swiss1largerp3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

A Dutch Army Knife:
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9667/daknq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[East Scout]

Those silver swiss army knives are nice..I have one in my PSK...I think they call em a Swiss Scout here in the US..

ES

[Thunder]

A Dutch Army Knife:
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9667/daknq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)That's an old one. This is the current 'DAK' (Dutch Army Knife) that is being issued.

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/1157/legerspul008dy9.jpg

The German army pocket knife I have looks like this.

http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/5250/legerspul009jc9.jpg

[memphiz]

Canadian Forces get a Gerber pocket tool like a leatherman i think.
Yeah we get Gerber multi-tools

[ansonau]

Yeah we get Gerber multi-tools
Can you post the photo??

[memphiz]

http://www.army.gc.ca/Chief_Land_Staff/Clothe_the_soldier/hab/2/28_e.asp

[Steve Andrews]

Those silver swiss army knives are nice..I have one in my PSK...I think they call em a Swiss Scout here in the US..

ES

It's the Victorinox "Soldier". Victorinox make all the GAKs, DAKs and SAKs that have been mentioned in the thread so far.

[Beer Monster]

Good old british Army knife:-

http://www.1sks.com/images/lewis/lew-71700-open.jpg

Knife, can opener and marlin spike. Also, if all else fails it's so heavy you could beat someone to death with it!

[Sneeker]

http://www.1sks.com/images/lewis/lew-71700-open.jpg

Knife, can opener and marlin spike. Also, if all else fails it's so heavy you could beat someone to death with it!




Whats A marlin Spike used for???

[Sneeker]

Infact all of these tools seem to have a little spike on them. What are they and what are they used for?

[Beer Monster]

Knife, can opener and marlin spike. Also, if all else fails it's so heavy you could beat someone to death with it!




Whats A marlin Spike used for???

Loosening knots in wet ropes.

[Sneeker]

Ya i guess that would work better then my teeth.

[bluffcove]

Also used for splicing, siezing, frapping and hauling.

-Ropework anorak :P

[ansonau]

http://hk.image.auctions.yahoo.com/users/6/0/5/9/fl2908-img600x450-1142242216_x_m_1-2.jpg
http://hk.image.auctions.yahoo.com/users/6/0/5/9/fl2908-img600x450-1142242224_x_m_2-2.jpg
http://hk.image.auctions.yahoo.com/users/6/0/5/9/fl2908-img600x450-1142242231_x_m_3-2.jpg

Is that old british knife?
I wanna buy that knife and yet i am wondering is such tool enough for civilian camping?woot

[Beer Monster]

Also used for splicing, siezing, frapping and hauling.

-Ropework anorak :P

Come on now mate ..... anyone would have thought you were in the navy with chat like that :)! Not that theres anything wrong with the navy ...............!

["Royal-with-Cheese"]

steve andrews:


I think the swiss army have a knife - it includes a corkscrew!

correct, the swiss army knife doesn't have a corkscrew in it. that's just a rumor we thank Robbin Williams for :-D
at least it was funny. to quote Robbin Williams:

"How can you take an army seriously, that has corkscrew on it's knife?"

the swiss army knfe is manufactured by Victorinox (they make the red ones too)... the silver one is the army version of it.
you might find it strange, that the cross has a different shape than usual even if it is victorinox
Wenger makes pocket knives too. they look similar to the ones that victorinox makes > but the cross is different.

[Limeyfellow]

http://hk.image.auctions.yahoo.com/users/6/0/5/9/fl2908-img600x450-1142242216_x_m_1-2.jpg
http://hk.image.auctions.yahoo.com/users/6/0/5/9/fl2908-img600x450-1142242224_x_m_2-2.jpg
http://hk.image.auctions.yahoo.com/users/6/0/5/9/fl2908-img600x450-1142242231_x_m_3-2.jpg

Is that old british knife?
I wanna buy that knife and yet i am wondering is such tool enough for civilian camping?woot

Yes thats an old British military knife. The broad arrow is the British acceptance mark. The style has been around since before WW2 and these stainless ones where mainly to stop them rusting while fighting in asia. If it was a copy its likely not to have the broad arrow on it. I perfer the ones with the bakalite handles though for a better grip. Some later WW2 ones lost the marlin spike, but was restored to the design after the war.