Knives, bayonets, multi tools, daggers and other pointy implements.

[TacoDelRio]

If you go hunting and do outdoorsy stuff, the high carbon steel of the Ka Bar would do you well. AUS-6 is too light. AUS-8 might be OK.

[gaijinsamurai]

As someone who lives in Japan and collects militaria, including German, I can tell you that the US is definitely a better place to sell it than Japan. Actually, there isn't really much interest in this sort of thing over here, which makes it both a blessing (low prices!) and a curse (hard to find stuff, as there are very few people who sell it) for us collectors.

[prettyboy_02]

As someone who lives in Japan and collects militaria, including German, I can tell you that the US is definitely a better place to sell it than Japan. Actually, there isn't really much interest in this sort of thing over here, which makes it both a blessing (low prices!) and a curse (hard to find stuff, as there are very few people who sell it) for us collectors.


:-*$ guess what

[Universe]

The Proper term is German knife.

[CANDOG]

Check out some of Benchmades products.... you can get some good deals online and some of the HK products are now made by Benchmade.
Have had one for 3 years now and the only maintenance reqd is the odd sharpening and lube.
The blade on the one I have is 154cm steel (not a measurement but a steel type) Holds an excellant edge under rough conditions.

[Mike762]

If you never want to have to buy another knife again buy a Randall

http://www.randallknives.com/

[Herrmannek]

If you never want to have to buy another knife again buy a Randall

http://www.randallknives.com/
Will it come back to its owner when he will loose it? :)

[TacoDelRio]

Will it come back to its owner when he will loose it? :)

Yes. It has a Type 38B low-gain GPS transmitter in the center space in the tang.

[Biglug]

I know I wished I had just bought their Model 14 fighter's instead of Cold Steel's copy in sorts the "military classic".
Every single Randall I've seen has been a work of art in craftsmanship. I'll probably buy one anyways one day, but it wouldn't be the last knife I'd ever buy.
http://www.randallknives.com/images/catalog//military-big.jpgC ) Model 14 "Attack"

There more of your classic stylings but I've found blades with a smaller guard area and part of the fulltang blade to be more versatile for different hand positions and supporting the knife at different points with the second hand used for putting more downward pressure on the blade when cutting through bone and heavier materials.

http://www.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/bnchmd/images/140sbk.jpg
I think sometimes the only way I'm going to find the be all of knives for myself is by designing one and having it custom made.

[SharpShooter282]

Just recieved them...
Left: Master Of Defense Razorback
Right: Fred Perrin icepick (pic à glace)
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7228/061102112140ov0.jpg
The Perrin is very nice to wear and both are very good quality knives!

[bluffcove]

the pick really doesnt look lieke a knife
and make yourself a decent sheeth for the one on hte left out of leather those plastic ones are gash!

[SharpShooter282]

Kydex sheat are really the best I think...

[bluffcove]

Depends how good you are at making your own really!

Oils the blade each time I use it. Unaffected by temperature thus not brittle, Can be used to remove burrs, doesnt hurt if you fall on it.

Smells and feels.....MMMM sensual!

[SharpShooter282]

Making your own sheat? Yup, why not trying once!
I put oil on the sheat ench time I use it!

[bluffcove]

Sorry old habits die hard,

Bit of a thing for string and leather - no minardiau no! - If you use leather, you jsut drip molten tallow into the opening once a year. never dulls, Holds the knife regardless of what angle your hanging at. and comes out whenevery ou want it to with none of the funny clippy jiggerypokery.

[DeltaWhisky58]

What on earth is the thing on the right about - looks like a bit of twisted wire coat hanger?

I agree with Bluffcove - I prefer leather sheaths for my knives, plus plastic ones have in my experience poor retention qualities, and you can do yourself some damage if you fall onto them.

[bluffcove]

Plastic will fatique, leather will wear in.

If plastic snaps the entire thing becomes U/S if the stitching comes undone or the leather cracks it just means you can now show it in public because it looks warry!

Fred perrin specialises in "tools" that offer the smallest of legal loophole protection for carrying weapons. the "ice pick" is for making holes in poeple.

[RECON DOC]

What on earth is the thing on the right about - looks like a bit of twisted wire coat hanger?

I agree with Bluffcove - I prefer leather sheaths for my knives, plus plastic ones have in my experience poor retention qualities, and you can do yourself some damage if you fall onto them.

It looks like a shank someone in prison made from a bed spring. As for the sheaths, I prefer to make my own from giraffe scrotum. They're soft yet durable.

[California Joe]

^ What DW said, you actually paid for that? Hell, I'll go out in the garage and make one in a half hour.

I've got a nice little patch knife that I wear in a leather sheath attatched to my possibles bag strap. It's handy.

[Largomateratops]

The "knife" on the right looks weird! Whats the condition of the tip ?

Looks like a drill welded together with some sort of thick wire...

Is it some sort of hip designer peace or what´s special about that thing?

I mean I´ve never ever seen something comparabel!

[Kaapeli]

It doesn't look like a survival icepick after all...

[bluffcove]

Ive been climbing an eye sacks is a feck off hooj axe of a thing for mountaineering.

and a funky necked hook type thing for climbing.

with an Adze on the back edge and serations.

that is an "ice pick" used for breaking open blocks of ice in a cocktail bar! or killing people in Basic Instinct.

feel free to patronise me mate, but might suggest you checked your ground first. Now that you are on thin ice, explain how that toothpick is going to get you out of ice you have fallen into, Im interested!

[Icarus1]

The knife looks okay, but what did you pay for the "icepick"... I'm not talented in such stuff, but that thing I could make myself.

[ed316]

You live in Swizterland. Should of bought a gun.

[Kaapeli]

Ive been climbing an eye sacks is a feck off hooj axe of a thing for mountaineering.

and a funky necked hook type thing for climbing.

with an Adze on the back edge and serations.

that is an "ice pick" used for breaking open blocks of ice in a cocktail bar! or killing people in Basic Instinct.

feel free to patronise me mate, but might suggest you checked your ground first. Now that you are on thin ice, explain how that toothpick is going to get you out of ice you have fallen into, Im interested!

Ice fishing is one of my hobbies and I own a pair of these survival picks to help me out of the icy water if I fall in.
http://www.michigan.gov/images/IcePicks_116392_7.JPG
And I promise you they are very effective.

[bluffcove]

This is what i htink of when someone says ice axe.
http://www.needlesports.com/acatalog/campxla210axe.jpg

However enough of bitching at each other lets laugh at the bloke that paid money for a bed spring.

[gtronin]

Ice fishing is one of my hobbies and I own a pair of these survival picks to help me out of the icy water if I fall in.
http://www.michigan.gov/images/IcePicks_116392_7.JPG
And I promise you they are very effective.

those look like corn on the cob holders...

[Deicide]

Perrin military bowie knife: http://www.kwoon.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14809
Perotti-Perrin fighter: http://www.kwoon.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13646

[Kaapeli]

those look like corn on the cob holders...

They really aren't meant for impressing people with their looks. They are emergency tools similar to a lifejacket and good luck getting back on ice without them if you fall in.
Picture from a demonstration http://ffp.uku.fi/slidepics/wresc35.jpg
You basicly pull yourself out with them.

[DeltaWhisky58]

They really aren't meant for impressing people with their looks. They are emergency tools similar to a lifejacket and good luck getting back on ice without them if you fall in.
Picture from a demonstration http://ffp.uku.fi/slidepics/wresc35.jpg
You basicly pull yourself out with them.

So to describe them as knives is incorrect, Survival tool is more appropriate then.

[gtronin]

They really aren't meant for impressing people with their looks. They are emergency tools similar to a lifejacket and good luck getting back on ice without them if you fall in.
Picture from a demonstration http://ffp.uku.fi/slidepics/wresc35.jpg
You basicly pull yourself out with them.

No offence meant by corn in the cob holders, they actually have somewhat the same purpose, holding on to stuff that doesnt want to be held (ok, I am pushing the whole giving character to inanimate objects)

right tool for the job.

[DeltaWhisky58]

No offence meant by corn in the cob holders, they actually have somewhat the same purpose, holding on to stuff that doesnt want to be held (ok, I am pushing the whole giving character to inanimate objects)

right tool for the job.

Corn holders wasn't what got you infracted was it? :bash:

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

The twisted wire job looks like something you would make to shank some dude in the prison shower, please tell me you never bought this.

[bluffcove]

http://www.szaboinc.com/edged.html
For all you wierdo knife fetishists.

Who would have thought that being a sad tw@t could spawn such an industry.
Or that leatherman could do the same stuff without making you look like an imbecile

[Herrmannek]

Icepick? What use of that beyond the obvious ?

[ZoneOne]

that's an interesting looking pick / dagger

hell, i'd use it as a last resort weapon. Hell I'd use anything if it came down to it.

[maw]

sharpshooter - this board has a very weak knife culture... don't worry about it.
fred perrin makes badass gear. i carried a street surgeon for a while, razor sharp and invisible when in plain sight.

[Steve Andrews]

sharpshooter - this board has a very weak knife culture... don't worry about it.
fred perrin makes badass gear. i carried a street surgeon for a while, razor sharp and invisible when in plain sight.

No, this board doesn't have a "weak knife culture".

Carrying an ice pick as some ****ty form of self defense is weak knife culture.

[DeltaWhisky58]

sharpshooter - this board has a very weak knife culture... don't worry about it.
fred perrin makes badass gear. i carried a street surgeon for a while, razor sharp and invisible when in plain sight.

This is one of the most ridiculous comments I've seen posted outside of OT&H is some time.

If you want to bost about carrying pimp-style weaponry do it elsewhere!

:bash:

[Steve Andrews]

Twisted Coathanger Weak

Fallkniven F1 in custom leather Strong 1111

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3093/20060128image0008yr0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[DeltaWhisky58]

British custom knife-maker Alan Wood makes very fine knives. This one has gralloched (field dressed) many a deer.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/HighlandSniper58/03-11-200609-09-35_0006.jpg

N.B. - As the kife was a gift, I had no say in its design, but in my view it is a bit dangerous in use as there is no form of protection to stop the hand slipping down onto the blade when cold or wet - but still a nice piece of custom work.

[Steve Andrews]

Alan Wood makes a great knife. That's why they're so pricey!

My John Foxwell custom would do a good gralloching job...no dear in Jersey though!

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/9820/foxwellmn1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[TacoDelRio]

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Damn nice looking knife there, Steve.

[DeltaWhisky58]

Have to say that given the choice I'd prefer the Foxwell, but you don't look a gift horse in the mouth. The silly thing is my two favourites are a Victronox lock blade "Hunter" and a cheapo Scandinavian fixed blade with a gutting hook on the tip of the blade. I also have a couple of relatively cheap Buck lock blades which are great working knives and hold an edge well when done up with my Lansky system.

[Steve Andrews]

Some beautiful Alan Woods here:
http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27222

The Damascus pair are niiice.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/379/damascusrb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[DeltaWhisky58]

His work has clearly come a long way since he made mine circa 1990, but there again I wouldn't want to use those in the field.

[Icarus1]

Who says there is no knife culture on MP.net. I'm not a big knife pro, although I have some sweet Buck, Gerber, HK, Mad Dog and Victorinox knifes... I see them more as a tool than a weapon.

[TacoDelRio]

There are plenty of quiet knife guys on here, myself included.

I just broke all my expensive ones, and my cheap ones keep working! (Not CHina-cheap, but, you know, +/- $100 cheap)

[Icarus1]

I got some expensive ones from a fathers friend (who sadly died), because he knew that I was very intersted in weapons of all sorts. Got some good stuff there, also some commemoratives.

BTW he was the guy who gave me my first gun. It was a present before I entered military service with 18. It was a 1987 Colt Government 1911, 80ies Series Mark IV nickel finish... a really beautyful gun. Really sad that the old man died a few years ago...

[FROGFOOT-MKDN]

"+/- $100 cheap", those are the best, not trash cheap & not too expensive so you'll feel sorry if lost, damaged, stolen or else.

[Icarus1]

true word frogfoot.

[Steve Andrews]

Some "Weak Knife Culture" :roll: Ritter and Cabela's Benchmade Griptilian variants:
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3748/20061019005ng2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[DeltaWhisky58]

I quite fancy the bottom two of that selection - look quite useful.

[Steve Andrews]

I quite fancy the bottom two of that selection - look quite useful.

They're the Cabela's variants of the Griptilian. They have the same blade profile as the standard Benchmade Griptilians, but D2 Tool Steel is used instead of 154CM.

Great knives.

[bluffcove]

what can the one at the top do that the one at the bottom cant?

Sorry just seeing why you need six very similar tools?

[DeltaWhisky58]

The thing is, I just don't need any more knives. By most standards I don't have many, but still more than I'll ever need or can justify.

[Steve Andrews]

what can the one at the top do that the one at the bottom cant?

Sorry just seeing why you need six very similar tools?

You sound like my wife :)

[FROGFOOT-MKDN]

A real E&G fan(freak) would NEVER ask those questions.

[maw]

due to legalities of carrying an edged blade in certain localities this is all that is available. when i lived in los angeles i noticed that among cons the legal urban carry weapon of choice was a screwdriver because of the plausability. let me clarify, a screwdriver combined with some pepper spray. despite how ****ty of a self defense weapon you think it is, a screwdriver shanked in the armpit will stop a man in his tracks. it's not the tool, it's the mindset and any sharp or pointy implement can be brutally effective.


No, this board doesn't have a "weak knife culture".

Carrying an ice pick as some ****ty form of self defense is weak knife culture.

[maw]

i'm sorry if my wording came across as abrasive and confrontational, that wasn't my intent. however, the majority of knife threads here inevitably consist of someone talking about their glock knife or their $50 folder. so to some degree my sentiment remains.

you all blasted another member for his choice in cutlery without considering the context of his decision. fred perrin is a former paratrooper in the french military, he now splits his time between training the french police and military in unarmed and knife combatives, the rest of his time is spent making very highly regarded discrete urban self defense weapons. france has some very oppressive knife carry laws, this doesn't seem to bother the urban thugs, hence the need for improvised tools.

here's (http://www.realfighting.com/1102/FredPerrinART.html) an article about fred and the street crime situation in paris.

i've met fred and i'd dare say he's never made a "pimped" knife in his life. with fred it's function, function and more function, the only concession to to form is that he'll polish it up a bit. transforming my statement about edc'ing a perrrin blade into a "boast about carrying pimp-style weaponry" only reaffirms my original sentiment, how in any way is my mentioning what i carried a boast?

here's agood article about fred ad his creations:
http://www.donrearic.com/perrin.html

finally, if you think you're interested in checking out one of his blades i'd very strongly suggest a company called edc knives:
http://www.edcknives.com/

dw58, before you give me any more infractions for this thread please glance over some of those links, you'l then understand why when someone criticizes fred perrin's work i feel obliged to pony up and call it as i see it. i was replying to some stupid comments, from where i sit uninformed criticism is the same as "flame baiting", replying to flame bait is not. fred's work is respected, the fact that none of the posters knew this confirms my earlier statement regarding the culture, it's not an attack on the board merely an observation.


This is one of the most ridiculous comments I've seen posted outside of OT&H is some time.

If you want to bost about carrying pimp-style weaponry do it elsewhere!

:bash:

[bluffcove]

The fact remains. A screwdriver would be a superior choice to a bent bit of 8mil wire?

For the reasons of legality you just mentioned.

[DeltaWhisky58]

i'm sorry if my wording came across as abrasive and confrontational, that wasn't my intent. however, the majority of knife threads here inevitably consist of someone talking about their glock knife or their $50 folder. so to some degree my sentiment remains.

you all blasted another member for his choice in cutlery without considering the context of his decision. fred perrin is a former paratrooper in the french military, he now splits his time between training the french police and military in unarmed and knife combatives, the rest of his time is spent making very highly regarded discrete urban self defense weapons. france has some very oppressive knife carry laws, this doesn't seem to bother the urban thugs, hence the need for improvised tools.

here's (http://www.realfighting.com/1102/FredPerrinART.html) an article about fred and the street crime situation in paris.

i've met fred and i'd dare say he's never made a "pimped" knife in his life. with fred it's function, function and more function, the only concession to to form is that he'll polish it up a bit. transforming my statement about edc'ing a perrrin blade into a "boast about carrying pimp-style weaponry" only reaffirms my original sentiment, how in any way is my mentioning what i carried a boast?

here's agood article about fred ad his creations:
http://www.donrearic.com/perrin.html

finally, if you think you're interested in checking out one of his blades i'd very strongly suggest a company called edc knives:
http://www.edcknives.com/

dw58, before you give me any more infractions for this thread please glance over some of those links, you'l then understand why when someone criticizes fred perrin's work i feel obliged to pony up and call it as i see it. i was replying to some stupid comments, from where i sit uninformed criticism is the same as "flame baiting", replying to flame bait is not. fred's work is respected, the fact that none of the posters knew this confirms my earlier statement regarding the culture, it's not an attack on the board merely an observation.

So you've met Fred - so what?

Look at the topic of this thread, it is not about the knives or philosophy of Fred Perin, or your views on him for that matter. Your previous post was pretty off topic, this one strays even further.

[oldsoak]

Frosts do a £10 knife that will do most jobs. Cheap as chips and you can always knock up a sheath for it. Not fancy, but you wont go far wrong with it - assuming one knows when and how to use a knife. I've seen people use expensive knives trying to open cans of beans :roll: - we invented can openers for that....

[bluffcove]

Apart from a riggers knife that I carry for sentimental value and big stuff, this does pretty much everything.

Blade is always sharp, never loses a point, cheap and durable.

http://www.stanleytools.com/showPic.asp?PID=10-095&PIC=catalog_images/mid_res/10-095_mid_res.jpg&SDesc=9mm%20Extra%20Heavy%20Duty%20Knife

[James]

The thing is, I just don't need any more knives. By most standards I don't have many, but still more than I'll ever need or can justify.

That describes me and firearms. :(

[DeltaWhisky58]

That describes me and firearms. :(

Unfortunately our government decides how many firearms you need, and their view is very different from that of most gun users. They are also making knife ownership and use very difficult these days. The restrictions on carrying knives are getting to be very strict indeed.

[Freedom06]

Some beautiful Alan Woods here:
http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27222

The Damascus pair are niiice.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/379/damascusrb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

You gotta just drool at those-I got an Alan Wood/Ray Mears design a few years ago, and that's the only knife I'll ever need. Full tang, extremely strong, with fantastic old fashioned high carbon tool steel, gets the sharpest edge of any knife I have seen-although I guess for a 'military knife' this is not the main consideration-but if you are working with wood its hard to beat...

[Qianlong]

hello

Can someone ID the knive Starbuck (BSG) is using??

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9739/picture1fb2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[TacoDelRio]

Those are some arms on her. Toned.

Got any other pictures?

[Mojo]

It's a SOG Seal Revolver. http://sogknives.com/store/revolver.html She was using a CRKT M21 the first time, then a SOG Seal Pup the second time to kill Leoben on New Caprica.

[IFOR77]

The Knife???:slap:

Damn who´s that cute Girl?rofl

Greetz IFOR77...

[Qianlong]

thanks for the knife info.

info on actress: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0755267/

and some pictures from the TV show Battlestar Galactica

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/1446/48285oi4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/6627/48276fv5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[TacoDelRio]

Miss Park FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LaoSexMachine]

Miss Park FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!


x2. Boomer, baby!

[TacoDelRio]

I've never watched the show, to be honest, but she is incredibly f**king hot.

(I came from a Korean neighborhood)

[LaoSexMachine]

I've never watched the show, to be honest, but she is incredibly f**king hot.

(I came from a Korean neighborhood)

You grew up in LA's Korea Town? Been there in 02.

[TacoDelRio]

You grew up in LA's Korea Town? Been there in 02.

Hahah no, a suburb where I went to high school!

Although K-town ain't bad...

[Jsjoholm]

Has anyone come across any good multitools with all the basics but that has good hard wire cutters? Most of the Leathermans/Gerbers I have had, with one exception, have all had them soft wire cutters. And the one that didn't, well the wire cutter in that one was of poor quality regardless and will slide/snap apart real easily.

****ed my third Gerber multitool wire cutter this year today going through some barbwire. Getting a bit tired of this.

So, anyone that has any recommendations?

[CANDOG]

Perhaps you should try the gerber mp700 or mp800 series of multitools ....they have a 3 sided carbide wirecutter and it is also replaceable. Go to gerberblades.

If that dont do ya ...maybe consider a purpose built wire cutter as there is only so much abuse a multitool can take.

[Jsjoholm]

Thanks Man,
Based on the website (http://www.multitoolsonline.com/gerbermp800.html) I found about the MP800 it looks like something I should give a chance - I will check it out.

[KaceCoyote]

SOG! My sog is invincable

[Fade]

I have two Leatherman Waves (http://www.leatherman.com/products/tools/wave-%282004%29/default.asp). Use them for just about everything and never had a problem. Very solid tools, everything locks mechanically.

[Teme]

I have two Leatherman Waves (http://www.leatherman.com/products/tools/wave-%282004%29/default.asp). Use them for just about everything and never had a problem. Very solid tools, everything locks mechanically.
I have broken two Waves. Third one I got from warranty I'm gonna keep in the kitchen drawer. While waiting for a warranty Wave I've been using a POS S*hit&Wesson chinamade "multitool".

Gerber I bought to my nephew seemed to be OK but haven't really used one.

Multitool is a jack of all trades. Cant really use it as a knife. Same goes with wire cutters and screwdrivers I guess.

[Icarus1]

I have a Victorinox. Not that bad, but a little bit old...

In the army I always used a russian bayonet to cut wires :-) No joke. The swiss army bayonet doen't have a wire cutter.

[Young-kiwi]

I have not found any of the multitools effective against hard wire.
I found I needed to get a proper wirecutter.

Of the multitools, I prefer the gerber, but really all you can do is make indents with the cutter then use the plyers to waggle the wire until it breaks, slow work.

[Fiber]

I have an MP800. I have never tried it on any hard wire though.

It's a nice multitool, but as stated above, it is only a multitool. It can only do so much. A proper tool is always better for the job.

[tango44]

I use the Victorinox Swisstool is the only tool that I abuse every day and stills in good shape, Leathermans, Gerbers, are junk.

On the other hand I heard that Sog is verry good too.

[Jsjoholm]

I did not know that Victorinox had hard wire cutters? All the ones I have seen that has had wire cutters have had soft wire cutters, not that I have been looking all that much at Victorinoxs.

[bluffcove]

Ive found crickets quite useful i dont know who makes htem but they cut up to 6 guage wire, its a bit like a bulldog clip. with two shearing faces, cut most stuff I ever came across. and worked as a rudimnetary tin snip.

[blackjack 25]

I have a SOG as well and have never had a problem

But why not just carry a set of wire cutters as well not to big not much weight if thats even a consideration

[bluffcove]

British army wire cutters are a bitch - and they are heavy, they are made out of solid......... Heavy stuff, and the design hasnt changed since 1876.

[Fade]

I have broken two Waves. Third one I got from warranty I'm gonna keep in the kitchen drawer. While waiting for a warranty Wave I've been using a POS S*hit&Wesson chinamade "multitool".

Gerber I bought to my nephew seemed to be OK but haven't really used one.

Multitool is a jack of all trades. Cant really use it as a knife. Same goes with wire cutters and screwdrivers I guess.

Must be beating the crap out of them, then. Or not using it as intended IE using it as a hammer, or prying with the blade or other attachments.

Gerber? Very first one I had broke, the very first time I used it - some sliding piece of plastic broke and a spring went flying. Thats why I went to mechanical locking.

Each his own I guess, experiences may vary.

[freedomofold]

A pair of electricians clips seems the better option.

[Fade]

A pair of electricians clips seems the better option.
Well, yeah - someone else said it before, too. Use the right tool for the job.

He asked for multitool opinions though /shrug

[Teme]

Must be beating the crap out of them, then. Or not using it as intended IE using it as a hammer, or prying with the blade or other attachments.

Gerber? Very first one I had broke, the very first time I used it - some sliding piece of plastic broke and a spring went flying. Thats why I went to mechanical locking.

Each his own I guess, experiences may vary.
Have to admit Wave is still a pretty good tool and I haven't found anything to replace it. I like especially it having two separate blades because I just don't like those compromise fine-serrated edge blades. The ones I broke got some abuse. Also looks like it's better not to use one as a barbequeing tool. Leaf spring for the blade got fatigued in the heat and then broke. Well, could not defenately use ones with plastic parts for that either.

[digrar]

I'm pretty happy with my leatherman charge.

[kapral]

I use the Victorinox Swisstool is the only tool that I abuse every day and stills in good shape, Leathermans, Gerbers, are junk.

On the other hand I heard that Sog is verry good too.

Yeah, that's true. It's the sixth year since i use Swiss tool, it never got broken or something like this. I had cut the barbed wire, etc etc. Nothing happend. In my opinion, the most durable multitool on the market

[FROGFOOT-MKDN]

What you need is solid, sturdy, full-size wire-cutting pliers with ergonomic handles, from some world class tool producer, I like German tools, one of the best.

[Rekka]

Maybe not the right place to post (if incorrect please delete this post mods).

Thing is as i do quite a bit of outdoor/mountain climbing activities and already own a swiss wenger ranger knife as well as a leatherman. I'm on the lookout for a decent knife that is and stays razorsharp (i.e. for cutting rope, etc.). It has to be a one hand knife as in certain situations i can only use one hand. Also the knive has to be lightweight.

I've been looking at a variety of knives, and some look like they could really suite my needs, but i'm hoping some people here can give me some advice or maybe even own a similar knife and have good experiences with it.

I'm interested in knifes like this modell in the picture:

http://spyderco.com/pix/products/large/C41BBK_L.jpg

[Horna]

How about this? http://spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=205

Another Spyderco blade, VG10 blade, remote release hook at the other end, hole in the blade for easy opening etc.

VG10 offers good edge retention so if you sharpen it when need be you are good to go. Serrations help when cutting rope.

[Rekka]

How about this? http://spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=205

Another Spyderco blade, VG10 blade, remote release hook at the other end, hole in the blade for easy opening etc.

VG10 offers good edge retention so if you sharpen it when need be you are good to go. Serrations help when cutting rope.

Thanks a lot for the advice Horna, this modell seems to perfectly suit my needs, especially the remote release is a very nice addition since the knife has to be at hand most of the time.

I'm going to look for a nice shop that sells this modell in holland :)

[cosimo]

Spyderco make an emergency rescue knife that may better suit your needs. You may not want a pointed blade if you need to cut rope that is close to your body. Its a good bright colour so is easy to locate and can be opened easily with one hand.

[Rekka]

Spyderco make an emergency rescue knife that may better suit your needs. You may not want a pointed blade if you need to cut rope that is close to your body. Its a good bright colour so is easy to locate and can be opened easily with one hand.

Thanks Cosimo, i'll be looking into that one as well.

[Danno]

Ditto to has been said thus far. Spyderco makes outstanding knives that have never failed me. I have had my endura for going on 8 years or so and I use it at least once a day. On top of that, they have great customer service too. If anything ever breaks or needs a new factory sharpening, just send it to them no questions asked and they'll take care of it.

[ZoneOne]

Well by your picture I take it you are hell bent on owning a folder.

May I suggest any of the Harsey knives. They are the BEST quality you can get and they are the most durable knives out there. QP's have had them in their pocket in Afghanistan and Iraq.

http://lonewolfknives.com/store/pages/products.shtml

if not a Harsey, get an Emerson.

You may also want to try a SOG. I've got no experience with these knives as compared to the ones I've suggested above but I've heard great things. Also the one I'm providing a link for has the ability to cut a seatbelt or small nylon webbing while closed.

http://sogknives.com/store/sogtrident.html

[TacoDelRio]

Spyderco is good to go. I've got their Harpy model, in VG10, and also use it for mountaineering activities. It's fully serrated, and if you must cut rope for whatever reason, the blade profile and steel are perfect for that.

[Hispeed1]

For daily carry, I personally use and highly recommend the Benchmade Stryker (Black blade, partially serrated). I picked it over an Emerson CQC7 because the Benchmade is very ergonomic. I also recommend the Spyderco Delica line.

[tr45cal]

I have two Emerson Commanders. They are awesome knives.

[maw]

Well by your picture I take it you are hell bent on owning a folder.

May I suggest any of the Harsey knives. They are the BEST quality you can get and they are the most durable knives out there. QP's have had them in their pocket in Afghanistan and Iraq.

http://lonewolfknives.com/store/pages/products.shtml
[/url]

a harsey d2 would make an outstanding military folder.

[PG18]

if you want a high end multi purpose knife .. get a surefire delta. made of S30 V steel.

[silveykyle]

I was just given an emerson cqc8, it's way more knife then I would ever need, but it's amazing.

[Kruglerek]

I'm looking for info and pics of different countries' military issued combat knifes. Knifes that were officialy issued for soldiers (regular and SF). Of course I'm not looking for pics of such well known knifes like Ka-Bars but less known (from Asia, South America etc.).
Here are two knifes that were officialy accepted by Polish military:
old one wz.55
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/Samael77/wz55.jpg
new one wz.98
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/Samael77/Noz20Gerlach20Sanitas20wz98z2003.jpg

[digrar]

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9501/sh71700yy2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7388/p09fq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And both next to useless.

[Catch22]

Well the bottle opener on M9 works fine... ;-)

[ZoneOne]

You get one of these once you become a Special Forces soldier, complete the Q-Course and earn the right to wear the Green Beret. They are individually serial numbered. William Harsey designed it (Gerber and Lone Wolf)

http://www.soc.mil/swcs/museum/images/yarborough_knife.jpg

[Jimmy C]

Columbia River Knife and Tool make some pretty good folders. They make some pretty good knives for climbing/rope cutting and ideal for military and law enforcement as well. I've got the M16 SRT Law Enforcement and it has served me well over the last 6 months or so.

http://www.crkt.com/ftws.html

[kamarian]

try the eichorn solingen rescue knives. they are sharp, you can get different types of blades and change them if you want. The knives have a glass breaker and seat belt cutter, and a large press stud to help close the blade when you are wearing gloves. I have had mine for over a year, and used it for everything from work, to FRB work, and general rescue work. Very Good knives.

[Sabre]

http://royalmarines.mine.nu/library/3_27-28-423-697_20030910164634.jpg

http://www.ukkitmonster.com/images/DSC_4533.gif

The only blade you get in SF is embroidered.

[oldsoak]

Whats the story behingd the syskes-fairbairn ? Is that just for presentation only ?
arent we getting a version of the Frost issued - not as a combat knife but a general purpose jobby ?

[Sabre]

Is that the Royal we oldsoak? I know I wont see any of that shyte. I haven't even got a bayonet!

Hi-ho STABs, away!!!

[maundy]

Whats the story behingd the syskes-fairbairn ? Is that just for presentation only ?
arent we getting a version of the Frost issued - not as a combat knife but a general purpose jobby ?

Recently, the British MOD ordered a batch of them in a sandy colour (blade and handle) with a web sheath, completely sanitised with no markings at all on the blade or sheath.

I'd say it's not just for presentation!

[oldsoak]

@Sabre
:lol:
just a rumour that the MoD were issueing it as we have nothing between a clasp knife and a parang - the Frost is also cheaper than the clasp knife and we dont use the can-opener or marlinspike allegedly.If its true, suspect its a cost cutter !

[Jippo]

Finnish bayonet:

http://mosinnagant.net/finland/images/rk62out.JPG

It is interesting as a bayonet, as it is one of the few bayo's that can be actually used as a normal working knife. This is due to the shape of the blade and lack of external locking lugs. More info:

http://mosinnagant.net/finland/Finn-bayonets.asp


-jippo

[USMC Tanker]

Current USMC Issue Bayonet (Ontario Knife Company OKC3S)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/dcarter_usmc/DSC02098.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/dcarter_usmc/DSC02100.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/dcarter_usmc/DSC02101.jpg

[USMC Tanker]

*EDIT*

He doesn't want to see Kabars.

[USMC Tanker]

USN & USMC Recon Issue MK3 Dive Knife

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/dcarter_usmc/DSC02092.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/dcarter_usmc/DSC02094.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/dcarter_usmc/DSC02093.jpg

[LaoSexMachine]

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/690/1000160ra4.jpg

[gaijinsamurai]

I like that USMC bayonet, USMCTanker!
That's the first time I've seen one. How long have those been issue? Are they part of the regular 782 gear?
What is your and other Marines' opinion of it?
When I was in, we had the old M7. It was good for opening MREs, but not much else. The majority of us bought our old k-bars or other knives.
In the National Guard, we had the M9. Nothing but deadweight to have to carry around and worry about getting lost.
Thanks for posting the pics.

S/F

GS

[jerka71_1]

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3660/640lc8.gif




http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8050/farbssprang3581xx8.jpg

:)

[caleb]

German Kampfmesser 2000:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Km2000.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/KM2000_mit_Scheide.jpeg

[Christophe]

Belgian Paracommando knife:

[andreen]

Mod. F1 is the official survival knife for pilots within the Swedish Air Force since 1995.
http://www.fallkniven.se/bilder/f1-web.jpg
http://www.fallkniven.se/bilder/F1z_belt_l.jpg

[jerka71_1]

http://www.fallkniven.se/bilder/F1z_belt_l.jpg

Air force uses different (less functional & probably more expensive) sheath.

[andreen]

Air force uses different (less functional & probably more expensive) sheath.

They have the old sheath. It was remade in 2006

[Adam Wilhelm]

This is a real Swedish Air Force survival knife:
http://www.canit.se/~griffon/knives/fallkniven/f1_side.jpg

The sheath:
http://www.canit.se/~griffon/knives/fallkniven/f1_plast.jpg

The earlier showned F1.s is commercial ones.

[USMC Tanker]

Gaijin,

Yeah, it's issued 782 gear.

I really like mine, it's long, heavy (than the old M7), well made, aggressive, and the sheath with it's MOLLE attachments make it easy to integrate with your gear.

I really dig it's serration, and found some good uses with the knife in Iraq.

[jerka71_1]

This is a real Swedish Air Force survival knife:
http://www.canit.se/~griffon/knives/fallkniven/f1_side.jpg

The sheath:
http://www.canit.se/~griffon/knives/fallkniven/f1_plast.jpg

The earlier showned F1.s is commercial ones.

Yep, that´s the right sheath. Same knife just doesn´t have the commercial logo on it. They have started to issue blackened blades as well.

[FMJ]

http://www.militaria.wz.cz/noze/uton/uton005.jpg

[flanker7]

We have this: http://www.lbainternational.com/eickhorn/mk_ack.htm but with the glass breaker on the handle and this: http://www.lbainternational.com/eickhorn/mk_dagger2000.htm

[khukuri]

Finnish bayonet:


It is interesting as a bayonet, as it is one of the few bayo's that can be actually used as a normal working knife. This is due to the shape of the blade and lack of external locking lugs. More info:




-jippo

must be an expensive, most bayos are cheap shyte, theyre made for sticking meat and not proper field use.

[Jippo]

must be an expensive, most bayos are cheap shyte, theyre made for sticking meat and not proper field use.

I don't think it is 'that' expensive. Locking part of the bayonet is a rather simple steel insert on top of the handle, otherwise it is more or less same as the ranger knife (which is not official military equipment but very popular as a private purchase). Ranger knife has improved handle, and is thus much better as a fighting knife, but lacks the ablity to be attached to the rifle.

Ranger knife is about 70€ in Finland, and I consider it quite cheap esp. for the actual value in use:

http://www.maanpuolustusyhtio.fi/pictures/sissipuukko_muovi.jpg

http://www.maanpuolustusyhtio.fi/products.php?product=2400
http://www.alarm.de/security/pd-1981864343.htm


-jippo

[Saranof]

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3660/640lc8.gif


People may laugh, but it's one of the best knives there is. Small, sturdy, and does the job betetr htan many fancy big shiny knives.
My buddy who works in law enforcement always says the one knive he dreads the most is a normal mora, it can get through his knive-proof vest and do damage

[Juusto]

More photos of Sissipuukko (ranger knife)

http://www.q-elements.com/militaryphotos/sissipuukko01.jpg

http://www.q-elements.com/militaryphotos/sissipuukko02.jpg

http://www.q-elements.com/militaryphotos/sissipuukko03.jpg

Blade has teflon coating.

http://www.q-elements.com/militaryphotos/sissipuukko04.jpg

Rubber-like handle

http://www.q-elements.com/militaryphotos/sissipuukko05.jpg

Note: Locking mechanism. Roll lock prevents knife falling from the sheath when it's carried up side down. Knife yet easy to take from the sheath.

[BillySing]

I'm unsure was to whether or not these are issued, but I'm sure this knife was developed for the 52nd ordnance division as a specialty M-9.

the M-11 EOD knife, made by Lan Cay.

7 inch Blade(18 centimeters) 12 1/8 inches overall (30 centimeters)
Blade-.235 inches thick of 420 modified stainless steel
Blade is black zinc oxide coated for low reflective signature with milled sawteeth on the spine
Textured Thermoplastic Nylon Handle (Dupont Zytel) in Woodland Camo
Marked "EOD M-11 Lan Cay" on the blade and LAN CAY on the scabbard


It's an extremely strong knife. I can cut through car bonnets and 44 gallon drums with it. It's alot more comfortable in the hand than the m-9, and it's not as nearly as expensive as some of the knives people flaunt here, so when it does get buggered some way or another, I won't be too upset.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9084/w343hm8.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w343hm8.jpg)


http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1118/p1000349vf0.th.jpg (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000349vf0.jpg)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6905/p1000352ok3.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000352ok3.jpg)

[FROGFOOT-MKDN]

What folder will you guys choose for hiking, climbing & secondary use as a back-up to full size knife for tactical use, price range max. 40 $. Since there is a vast selection I need your practical experience on specific models.

[punchinout]

My CRKT's haven't failed me yet.

I have a M16-13Z and a M16-12Z

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/punchinout18/M16ZGRP06.jpg


most will be about 10 bucks more than what you're aimin at, but still really worth it.

[FROGFOOT-MKDN]

I see most of the guys here reccomend this exact model, so guess its one of the best.

[SamHamam]

@Sabre
:lol:
just a rumour that the MoD were issueing it as we have nothing between a clasp knife and a parang - the Frost is also cheaper than the clasp knife and we dont use the can-opener or marlinspike allegedly.If its true, suspect its a cost cutter !

Not quite true - but some would say it's more a hammer than a knife:

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3223/wilkieqk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[LRPV]

I'm unsure was to whether or not these are issued, but I'm sure this knife was developed for the 52nd ordnance division as a specialty M-9.


It's an extremely strong knife. I can cut through car bonnets and 44 gallon drums with it. It's alot more comfortable in the hand than the m-9, and it's not as nearly as expensive as some of the knives people flaunt here, so when it does get buggered some way or another, I won't be too upset.


WTF are you doing cutting through car bonnets? Is this a 'real' test of a knife?rofl rofl rofl

[BillySing]

yeah, just thought it would be interesting to test how much punishment it can take.

ALOT!!! :)

[TacoDelRio]

I've had the CRKT M16-04Z as well. Only thing I'd recommend is that you spray some oil on the frame every so often, to prevent rust.

[LaoSexMachine]

Columbia River Knife and Tool make some pretty good folders. They make some pretty good knives for climbing/rope cutting and ideal for military and law enforcement as well. I've got the M16 SRT Law Enforcement and it has served me well over the last 6 months or so.

http://www.crkt.com/ftws.html

That's what I have a CRKT M16. A friend who was Iraq sent it to me.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6425/ckrtrk3.jpg

[H3]

Good old working knife like this is what you need.

http://swc-handmade-knives.com/

[ZoneOne]

I have seen many CRKT's blade snap opening cans and just doing everyday work that a regular knife should be able to do. I used to think they were great until I started to use them. So far I am very dissappointed. Only people I know who love them are people who have a knife but rarely use it. Maybe I'm hard on knives, but maybe I except a knife to work under almost ANY circumstances.

That is why I suggested knives like Harsey (Lone Wolf) and Emerson. Expensive yes... quality yes... they will outlast you.

[TacoDelRio]

What folder will you guys choose for hiking, climbing & secondary use as a back-up to full size knife for tactical use, price range max. 40 $. Since there is a vast selection I need your practical experience on specific models.

Spyderco anything. Manix is my favorite, but I don't own one, just fondelled them.

VG10 is a great steel, dunno about it's corrosion resistance but none of mine have any rust issues and I spend nearly each weekend climbing, so my Spyderco Harpy gets exposed to snow/ice on a weekly basis. No rust yet, had it for two years now.

Only problem is the price range is too low. Just my side from both sales and personal use, I'd set a higher price if possible, and just buy one good knife for EDC and outdoorsy crap, like the shorter Spyderco Manix.

[gaijinsamurai]

I've had really good luck with SOG folders.

[John John Peters]

I've used Gerber and A G Russell knives and never had any problems. I still have a Gerber Mk 1 that I bought in 1974. I always try and buy a well known brand and the most expensive in the brand as you I afford as you get what you pay for. I also believe in only using the knife for it's intended purpose.....ie if you want to open tin cans use a tin opener not a knife. :)

[FROGFOOT-MKDN]

About Spyderco had my eyes on Ladybug & Meadowlark, from Emerson, the Traveler looks nice.
What about Benchmade, SOG, Gerber, Puma, Kershaw, Buck,Cold Steel & other brands, any models you really had solid experience with?

[Kruglerek]

Many thanks for all info and pics. I'm very grateful.
Any info from Balkans ?

[Yeoman]

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7554/r3tn7.th.jpg (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=r3tn7.jpg)
if you harrass my stores enough they might eventually cave and issue one to you. most guys end up buying them.
they call this a 'jump knife' here in Canada, because well that's generally the guys that carry it around.
it's pretty much a fishing knife. it's the perfect balance between size and strength to me. I just need to pick up a stone to sharpen mine, not very good at sharpening knives though.
Greg

[gaijinsamurai]

With the exception of Emerson and kershaw, I've used all the knives you've mentioned, at one time or another, over the years, for hunting, military use, etc.
My favorites have been SOG, followed by Benchmade and Cold Steel.
Gerber, Buck, and Puma were okay too. I mostly used the Buck (a 110 folder-I traded it to a South Korean Marine for his beret in 1990) and Puma for skinning/gutting deer and elk. The Buck was great, but the Puma (which i still have) seemed to be a bitch to keep sharp. High quality steel, though.
I've always fancied the CRKT folders, but after what ZoneOne wrote, I'm having second thoughts.
Another knife I really like is my fixed-blade AL MAR. They make folders too, and have an excellent reputation.

[H3]

Once again if your looking for a work knife stop looking at all that crap made with holes and space age materials and go for good old full tang tool steel grade with a fresh wooden handle old school knife, sharper than sharp !

[TacoDelRio]

I've had really good luck with SOG folders.

I agree 100%. I gave my buddy my SOG Flash 2 Camo, which I had beaten to hell. It still opens super fast. AUS-8 blade. Great knife. I later bought the Trident for my buddy (now in Iraq, loves the knife), and ended up buying a second for me. Gave mine to a buddy (police officer), who loves it.

Great stuff. SEKI makes alot of their blades, same for Spyderco. Great stuff.

If I had to choose another production knife company, I guess I'd go with Benchmade. Some freaking fantastic production knives.

[rhino]

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7554/r3tn7.th.jpg (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=r3tn7.jpg)
it's pretty much a fishing knife. it's the perfect balance between size and strength to me. I just need to pick up a stone to sharpen mine, not very good at sharpening knives though.
Greg

better get one of those sharpening devices, those knives have an inherited problems with holding edge if you not good with the stone, I did myself a favor some time ago and got this from grohmann
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/5988/100sbigrx0.jpg

holds the edge much better due to its shape

[FROGFOOT-MKDN]

H3, I'm starting to agree with you as I get my experience with knives, looks like better to get quality small size classic knife, than getting a folder for roughly the same price.

[Cedan]

anyone have experiences with khukuris?

[oldsoak]

Not quite true - but some would say it's more a hammer than a knife:

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3223/wilkieqk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Egad ! The MOD survival knife !
They still issue those ? I thought they went out with 58 webbing !

[Niels]

Issued Dutch KCT/Commandos knife (Hill Knives S.O.K.).

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/5056/hk05320sokfa4.jpg

[khukuri]

I don't think it is 'that' expensive. Locking part of the bayonet is a rather simple steel insert on top of the handle, otherwise it is more or less same as the ranger knife (which is not official military equipment but very popular as a private purchase). Ranger knife has improved handle, and is thus much better as a fighting knife, but lacks the ablity to be attached to the rifle.

Ranger knife is about 70€ in Finland, and I consider it quite cheap esp. for the actual value in use:

http://www.maanpuolustusyhtio.fi/pictures/sissipuukko_muovi.jpg

http://www.maanpuolustusyhtio.fi/products.php?product=2400
http://www.alarm.de/security/pd-1981864343.htm


-jippo

well 70 euro is not cheap ****, :). Maybe still not expensive but it more like a proper knife than 20euro bayonet.

[H3]

Even this baby is cheap ,simple and will last many a year as a work knife oh and sharp !

But if you want to spend a few $$$ go for the tailored hand made option.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Frosts-Mora-Carbon-Survival-Knife-ideal-for-bushcraft_W0QQitemZ160056643423QQihZ006QQcategoryZ7306QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Frosts-Clipper-Bushcraft-Camping-Fishing-Companion_W0QQitemZ110072203514QQihZ001QQcategoryZ7306QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

[khukuri]

anyone have experiences with khukuris?

eh....:) ? How long have you been on this board to miss that I exist. What ya need to know mate? I run the corner i the gunnery that says Khukuris..

[MT-LB]

http://www.militaria.wz.cz/noze/uton/uton005.jpg

Hello,
I wonder how many they made??? Funny to see the number 0005 and mine is 0007

[FROGFOOT-MKDN]

Niels, like the Dutch Commando, a lot! Any price & availability info?

Found the price, 350 euros, ouch!

[Jippo]

well 70 euro is not cheap ****, :). Maybe still not expensive but it more like a proper knife than 20euro bayonet.

Well, even the Finnish bayonet is little bit higher quality than e.g. US M7 bayonet which is indeed pretty crap. Ranger knife is a development for consumer market from the bayonet, and thus even better quality. Completely in different class than your average bayonet, more a specialised private purchase combat knife for a soldier who appreciates a good blade when he sees one.

So it is a proper knife, very much so. I rate it quite high and carry one personally whenever I go out in the wild.


-jippo

[Lazarou]

The one and only swedish Mora-knife

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3660/640lc8.gif
The one and only murder weapon in Finland. p-)

[FMJ]

Hello,
I wonder how many they made??? Funny to see the number 0005 and mine is 0007

The number is marking of meltage the knife is made from. This is not a serial number. There were made thousands of them. Also for the police, but they were with black scabbards.

[JJHH]

Where are the typical double-edged blades??

[Jippo]

Where are the typical double-edged blades??

Where are they better than single edged blade? Nowhere...

That is why nobody uses them.


-jippo

[khukuri]

Where are they better than single edged blade? Nowhere...

That is why nobody uses them.


-jippo

only in hand to hand knife combat, which no ones uses, unless youre bruce lee, and not even him needed it.

[TallGuy]

This is a so called Swedish Army knife made by Frost. Is it really used by the Swedish Army or is that just some sales gimmick?

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8071/5b1as3.jpg

[Baboonass]

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9501/sh71700yy2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



And both next to useless.



That is a great knife for sailing.

I foget the name they have for it but it's designed for knots and lines.

[Niels]

Niels, like the Dutch Commando, a lot! Any price & availability info?

Found the price, 350 euros, ouch!
Yeah, they're quite expensive unfortunately. You get what you pay for I suppose.

[Remington Rand]

People may laugh, but it's one of the best knives there is. Small, sturdy, and does the job betetr htan many fancy big shiny knives.
My buddy who works in law enforcement always says the one knive he dreads the most is a normal mora, it can get through his knive-proof vest and do damage
Why is this? What steel is it made from? That is one ugly knife but I have heard that it is of very high quality. RR

[Remington Rand]

Spyderco anything. Manix is my favorite, but I don't own one, just fondelled them.

VG10 is a great steel, dunno about it's corrosion resistance but none of mine have any rust issues and I spend nearly each weekend climbing, so my Spyderco Harpy gets exposed to snow/ice on a weekly basis. No rust yet, had it for two years now.

Only problem is the price range is too low. Just my side from both sales and personal use, I'd set a higher price if possible, and just buy one good knife for EDC and outdoorsy crap, like the shorter Spyderco Manix.

I was reading that the VG10 that Spyderco uses is top notch, better than most 440 C out there. I think it has a high vanadium content (dont ask me how that makes it better but the articles said it makes for a killer edge)

[Ghostryder]

Hey Khukuri,

I picked up one of your namesakes when I was in Kathmandu, How do I know if it's a quality sample or not?

[Cedan]

eh....:) ? How long have you been on this board to miss that I exist. What ya need to know mate? I run the corner i the gunnery that says Khukuris..

I am considering buying one, but there are so many different producers out there so I just need advice on a high quality (and preferably cheap ;)) khukuri to buy... got tips??

[ronrod71]

Here's the link to the knife pictured. It a Ltd ed model C41BBk.

http://spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=178

[Jippo]

only in hand to hand knife combat, which no ones uses, unless youre bruce lee, and not even him needed it.

And only if you really know how to fight with double edged knife. I know I'm happy that I have a single edged knife if I need to try to pretend I'm bruce lee.

Far easier to fight with it, and I rather let the other guy mess me up with his knife than do it to myself with a double edged knife. :)

Heck I wouldn't even need an opponent!


-jippo

[jerka71_1]

This is a so called Swedish Army knife made by Frost. Is it really used by the Swedish Army or is that just some sales gimmick?

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8071/5b1as3.jpg
Same factory that makes the old "Mora-knife" mentioned earlier in thread.
I think that this one has been issued in Swedish armed forces along with the other models.

[J-Bags]

Not quite true - but some would say it's more a hammer than a knife:

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3223/wilkieqk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Hey hey! Good ol' tree beater!

[TacoDelRio]

I was reading that the VG10 that Spyderco uses is top notch, better than most 440 C out there. I think it has a high vanadium content (dont ask me how that makes it better but the articles said it makes for a killer edge)

From my experience, it holds a sharp edge for a LONG LONG time, and doesn't seem to rust (much).

[Jimmy C]

I have seen many CRKT's blade snap opening cans and just doing everyday work that a regular knife should be able to do. I used to think they were great until I started to use them. So far I am very dissappointed. Only people I know who love them are people who have a knife but rarely use it. Maybe I'm hard on knives, but maybe I except a knife to work under almost ANY circumstances.

That is why I suggested knives like Harsey (Lone Wolf) and Emerson. Expensive yes... quality yes... they will outlast you.

That can be expected when using a knife that is not designed for anything else except cutting. I use my CRKT often (daily for cutting only) and the blade is still sharp as the day I bought it. "Different knives for different lives", it all comes down to the individuals needs.

[OLIVKO69]

nice but where are RUSSIA war knives?

[khukuri]

Hey Khukuri,

I picked up one of your namesakes when I was in Kathmandu, How do I know if it's a quality sample or not?


Hi mate sorry for forgetting this thread!
If you tell me exactly were in kathmandu you bought it then I may tell you;)


I am considering buying one, but there are so many different producers out there so I just need advice on a high quality (and preferably cheap ;)) khukuri to buy... got tips??

http://www.thekhukurihouse.com/

Ive bought from them both in nepal and over mail. Theyre great!

Western produced ones tend to be "different" when they write khukuri. SOme of them are more like machetes...

[Fitzcarraldo]

That is a great knife for sailing.

I foget the name they have for it but it's designed for knots and lines.

Great for cleaing the inside of the Flash-suppressor out.
Cant think of much else though...

[Ghostryder]

Hmm, I think it was like 1/2 hour away from Bodnath, can't remember exactly where.

[AK74]

hey guys , how come no swiss knives?

the ranger roller lock looks nice thou

the german stuff looks like a mini katana IMHO.

[Sabre]

That is a great knife for sailing.

I foget the name they have for it but it's designed for knots and lines.

You mean the Marlin Spike? Think that's what it's called...:|

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

This is a so called Swedish Army knife made by Frost. Is it really used by the Swedish Army or is that just some sales gimmick?

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8071/5b1as3.jpgI have used Frost knives at work for years and they out perform Buck by at least a year, were talking hard daily use as well.

[Sting0]

Hi,
What is the best material to make a hardcore (cutting alot) bowie knife ??
How long and width should be a fighting Bowie Knife ??
With what should I coat it ?? Epoxy ??

[Royal]

Hi,
What is the best material to make a hardcore (cutting alot) bowie knife ??
How long and width should be a fighting Bowie Knife ??
With what should I coat it ?? Epoxy ??

1. Diamond
2. As long as possible, width in proportion
3. Blood

[Sting0]

1. Diamond
2. As long as possible, width in proportion
3. Blood

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ANSWER LIKE A MATURE ... SHUT YOUR MOUTH ... I'M NOT HERE TO PLAY ...

[freedomofold]

::folds hand under chin and looks on with a grin::

[Royal]

I'M NOT HERE TO PLAY ...

What are you here for?

I'm here to play...

[oldsoak]

Why would you need a fighting bowie knife OOI ?

[Roanoke]

I'm not sure you can take someone serious who says he's a 7.62x39mm round inside of an AK47 magazine.

[Sting0]

I'm not sure you can take someone serious who says he's a 7.62x39mm round inside of an AK47 magazine.

lol....
========= Guys .. listen ... just tell me what is the best material for a bowie knife ... please ... just that and cancel all other questions ... I found all the answers I need ,, I only need to know the material

[ed316]

lol....
========= Guys .. listen ... just tell me what is the best material for a bowie knife ... please ... just that and cancel all other questions ...


Steel? Are you going to wear a racoon skin hat too?

[Royal]

Where's CJ? This is his era.

Did they have steel back then or was it still pig iron?

[Sting0]

Steel? Are you going to wear a racoon skin hat too?

I know STEEL ... BUT WHICH STEEL ?????????????????????????????????????????

[Sting0]

Where's CJ? This is his era.

Did they have steel back then or was it still pig iron?

CJ huh ,,, I'll wait CJ then ... just tell him to come here .

[ed316]

I know STEEL ... BUT WHICH STEEL ?????????????????????????????????????????


Carbon steel. Are you a blacksmith?


CJ lives in an old folks home and the caretakers let him use the internet now and then. He likes to surf for **** when the Viagra kicks in.

[California Joe]

Thank you Royal. Did I ever tell you about the Messicans I shot at San Jacinto? p-)


I have heard before from a few knifemakers that they like to use spring steel, as in old leaf springs from automobiles or old files because of the high carbon content. High carbon steel holds a nice edge if I'm not mistaken. But then you would need a forge and some blacksmithing ability, and seeing as how you don't even know what kind of steel to use I'm figuring you don't.....

You could always order a knife blank from several sources, do a search...One I have used in the past was www.trackofthewolf.com

They even have Damascus steel blades which are pretty, as well as Solingen and Green River blades.....

[Sting0]

Carbon steel. Are you a blacksmith?.
>> I'm trying to do something ;) ... ok cool ... can you tell me the percentages ?? (( ...% Iron \ ...% Carbon )) ?

[ed316]

http://www.primitiveways.com/pt-knives-1.html

[SHAM]

Couldnt resist,

Blue Steel

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7421/rzoolander4vh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Beer Monster]

>> I'm trying to do something ;) ... ok cool ... can you tell me the percentages ?? (( ...% Iron \ ...% Carbon )) ?

Go for O1 tool steel as I think it has the best properties. The higher the carbon the sharper the blade but the more brittle it will be (as far as I recall). High carbon blades also rust.

Fighting knifes are good for one thing but crap at everything else. Better off making a normal utility knife.

Just my 2p.

[Biglug]

Unless you've got some experience in blacksmithing knives beyond just asking your gonna be better off by just finding and buying yourself a good Bowie.

Different steels have various alloy blends that give them their characteristics but also require more special heat treatment processes and controlled surrounding to be made properly and successfully most of the time.
One of the most common and not so expensive steels that you see used alot is 1095. It's also one of the easiest to heat treat and work in a traditional forge.


I say you just buy one.

http://www.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/fallkniven/images/thor72.jpg

http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_detail.html?s=SWEDNL1L

If you want expensive and custom,

http://knifeart.com/bowie.html

http://store1.yimg.com/I/knifeart_1927_4769694

http://store1.yimg.com/I/knifeart_1932_195414667

[Freibier]

>> I'm trying to do something ;) ... ok cool ... can you tell me the percentages ?? (( ...% Iron \ ...% Carbon )) ?
Sting0 is a tiny chinese clerk, working for a substandard chinese knife maker - doing cheap ass market research.
Beware, soon the US market will be flooded with longass fighting bowies, made from old chinese bedsprings, coated with baby panda blood and with a diamond logo

[khukuri]

Hmm, I think it was like 1/2 hour away from Bodnath, can't remember exactly where.


was it a shop? or a market stall. did it look local or was it for tourists? IS there alot of "bling bling" on it? Like marks that say "ghurka special forces" e.t.c If it was makret stall what more did they sell, was it like kettles for locals or pashmina **** for tourists?
Have you tried it in the woods? Do you have a knife file, if you file it you can see the steel quality. how did the sheet look like.

Without seeing it I can only guess by all these details. Some khukris are maid only for tourists, usually their the ones that look the best. A lot of bling bling and ****. Most khukris that are made for usage look like ****, come with a simple sheet without the 2 small knifes. An exception is the ones from khukuri shop...

[dj_1911]

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ANSWER LIKE A MATURE ... SHUT YOUR MOUTH ... I'M NOT HERE TO PLAY ...

Second post and he insulted a mod. Way to go! rofl

[ekranoplan]

The best steel for "trying to do something" and also cheapest and easiest to come by is spring steel. Just go to truck dump and get steel leaf spring plate. Anything else is massive overkill if you're not trained bladesmith.

With the knowledge of steel you showed here I think you should avoid being overly concerned with percentages of carbon and steel... it is a little bit more complicated than that.

[jimmyboots]

5160 5/16" thick. YMMV

[Sparky2129]

I like D2 steel although it gets to be a real bitch to sharpen, I'm also particularly fond of S30V. Holds an edge nice and it's relatively easy to sharpen.

[maw]

Hi,
What is the best material to make a hardcore (cutting alot) bowie knife ??
How long and width should be a fighting Bowie Knife ??
With what should I coat it ?? Epoxy ??

carbon steel, i'm partial to d2 (it's what pneumatic drill bits are made off). if you don't have access to a foundry the leaf spring off a truck or a good quality metal tool file will do. go to some of the custom makers web sites and see what they use, busse uses something called infi, mad dog gets his steel from starett metals. some of the makes use s30v or cpm which both made by crucible steels (these two have some stainless properties, i don't like them). a lot of old school sword makers prefer 1080 and 1095 carbon steel.

regarding the width, in your first sentence use said hardcore cutting, in the second you said fighting bowie. two very different types of knife. a cutting knife will be thicker (1/4") and have a flat grind of around 20-22 degrees. a fighting knife needs to be fast and therefore lighter (between 3/16" down to 1/8"), the edge may have a convex grind and and the geometry might be as acute as 17 degrees. two very distinctive purposes so therefore two distinct design approaches. if you want a knife that does both go with the cutter.

the length. it is generally accepted that if you want to cause deep trauma you need at least 7.5", 9" is preferable. the original bowies were huge with some having 14" blades.

don't forget about heat treating. the longer the blade the higher chances of the blade warping. becuase of the length of the blade you might want to think of differential tempering.

regarding the finish. this is important becuase high carbon steel oxxidizes very quickly, especially when exposed to salty or acidic materials like blood. the high tech way to do this is to apply a homogeneous coating like hard chroming. then you can then apply your favorite coating material (pvd, teflon, guncote, etc).

[Ghostryder]

was it a shop? or a market stall. did it look local or was it for tourists? IS there alot of "bling bling" on it? Like marks that say "ghurka special forces" e.t.c If it was makret stall what more did they sell, was it like kettles for locals or pashmina **** for tourists?
Have you tried it in the woods? Do you have a knife file, if you file it you can see the steel quality. how did the sheet look like.

Without seeing it I can only guess by all these details. Some khukris are maid only for tourists, usually their the ones that look the best. A lot of bling bling and ****. Most khukris that are made for usage look like ****, come with a simple sheet without the 2 small knifes. An exception is the ones from khukuri shop...

The woman who sold it to me had an on the street shop. She was selling the "bling bling" ones and 'proved' the quality of mine by cutting some crappy steel off the back of the bling bling blade with mine, not very convincing but I bought it all the same. Mine came with a black leather sheath with the knives, the only marking on the sheath is a little steel emblem with "Nepal" etched on it. The knife itself is very sturdy, i'm not a knife guy, but I'd say it's pretty well balanced. The only mark on the blade is a blood channel that runs along both sides, and the grip is wooden and very sturdy. Maybe when I get back home i'll send you a pic.

[BillySing]

My personal favourite is high carbon 1085 spring steel, blue tempered, hollow ground with 3/32" thickness.

I find it's an excellent mix of durability, ease of honing, stain resistance, and makes a great pig sticker, gutter, or skinner.

[kerfuffled]

Try O1 tool steel but don't overheat it. Learn more here...http://www.cashenblades.com/Info/Steel%20selection/O1.html .:) (http://www.cashenblades.com/Info/Steel%20selection/O1.html)
Or here...http://www.admiralsteel.com/products/blades.html

(http://www.admiralsteel.com/products/blades.html)

[dusty_dragon]

the FROST is the swedish army knife. i have often seen it with some swedish comrades. i use one myself and for the price of about 12 euro it is a really great knife and razor-sharp.
not a cool styled rambo fighting knife, but a really reliable and very sharp knife for everyday use.
if you can get a grip on such a knife, buy it, its really great.
dusty ;-)

[Sting0]

carbon steel, i'm partial to d2 (it's what pneumatic drill bits are made off). if you don't have access to a foundry the leaf spring off a truck or a good quality metal tool file will do. go to some of the custom makers web sites and see what they use, busse uses something called infi, mad dog gets his steel from starett metals. some of the makes use s30v or cpm which both made by crucible steels (these two have some stainless properties, i don't like them). a lot of old school sword makers prefer 1080 and 1095 carbon steel.

regarding the width, in your first sentence use said hardcore cutting, in the second you said fighting bowie. two very different types of knife. a cutting knife will be thicker (1/4") and have a flat grind of around 20-22 degrees. a fighting knife needs to be fast and therefore lighter (between 3/16" down to 1/8"), the edge may have a convex grind and and the geometry might be as acute as 17 degrees. two very distinctive purposes so therefore two distinct design approaches. if you want a knife that does both go with the cutter.

the length. it is generally accepted that if you want to cause deep trauma you need at least 7.5", 9" is preferable. the original bowies were huge with some having 14" blades.

don't forget about heat treating. the longer the blade the higher chances of the blade warping. becuase of the length of the blade you might want to think of differential tempering.

regarding the finish. this is important becuase high carbon steel oxxidizes very quickly, especially when exposed to salty or acidic materials like blood. the high tech way to do this is to apply a homogeneous coating like hard chroming. then you can then apply your favorite coating material (pvd, teflon, guncote, etc).

Thanks man ... That's the answer I need ...

[Sting0]

Second post and he insulted a mod. Way to go! rofl

Oh noooo.. I didn't know that he is a mod :backhand: ... It's ok he forgived me :hug: I know that ..

[supercontra]

Steel Comparison
http://www.northamericanknives.com/page/981121

[Sting0]

Steel Comparison
http://www.northamericanknives.com/page/981121


Thaaaaaanks maaaan... this is how i like it :)...

[Adam Wilhelm]

for the price of about 12 euro

Squeeze me?!?
I think here in Sweden they don´t cost more than 5 euro.

[dusty_dragon]

that is the difference from sweden to germany i supose.
everyone tries to make some money with it.
so the dealers here sell it for about 12€, instead of 5 ni sweden.
okay they have taxes and shipping and for 12€ it is also a good knive, but 5€ would be much better than 12€ :)

[Jsjoholm]

that is the difference from sweden to germany i supose.
everyone tries to make some money with it.
so the dealers here sell it for about 12€, instead of 5 ni sweden.
okay they have taxes and shipping and for 12€ it is also a good knive, but 5€ would be much better than 12€ :)


*Feels his business senses tingle* So how many comrades do you have that wouldn't mind buying said knife for lets say.. 8EUR instead of 12EUR?

[dusty_dragon]

there you are right, we would have prefered to spend 8 EUR instead of 12 EUR, so i suppose the seller made a good business by selling the knives for 12 EUR.
but never the less the knives are really great for everyday use.

greets from germany
dusty :)

[N-G-F-O]

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8799/photos059km5.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photos059km5.jpg)
Affectionately known as a 'baby killer' my good ole' MoD survival knife.
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3624/photos058hi6.th.jpg (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=photos058hi6.jpg)
Issue Divers knife.

[Micha]

This is a so called Swedish Army knife made by Frost. Is it really used by the Swedish Army or is that just some sales gimmick?

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8071/5b1as3.jpg

It´s issued to the Army. My first trade for this knife was my own german army knife in 1987 in Belgium/Ardennes during the "Marche de Souvenir et de I Amitiè".

Regards, Micha

[Paulinski]

Lots more info at:
http://spyderco.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26699

Spyderco prototypes shown at a Euro show.

P’kal
http://www.spydercollector.nl/upload/amsterdammeet2007_pkal.jpg

Citadel is a large full blown automatic knife

http://www.spydercollector.nl/upload/amsterdammeet2007_citadel.jpg

Samaritan scale release double action folder (man I love scale release autos!)
http://www.spydercollector.nl/upload/amsterdammeet2007_samaritan.jpg

whale rescue blade!?
http://www.spydercollector.nl/upload/amsterdammeet2007_whalerescue.jpg

Hossom Woodlander
http://www.spydercollector.nl/upload/amsterdammeet2007_woodlander.jpg

H1 Ed Schempp knife - gotta get one
http://www.spydercollector.nl/upload/amsterdammeet2007_H1schemp_1.jpg

I'll probably actually buy this one and maybe the P'Kal.
http://www.spydercollector.nl/upload/amsterdammeet2007_zdpstretch_open.jpg

[Ghostryder]

Cool, although, truth be told, I'd prefer a strider folder...mmmm....

[Niels]

I like Spyderco, good brand. I have to get me one of those Citadels.

[Catch22]

Nice steel, H1 looks Khukrish a bit, wonder how she'll handle.

[Paulinski]

Cool, although, truth be told, I'd prefer a strider folder...mmmm....


Striders I love them too - just don't have the $$$ - AR folder is on my want list though.

[Ghostryder]

Striders I love them too - just don't have the $$$ - AR folder is on my want list though.

Yeah, I figure I'll buy one when i need it, And i sure as hell don't need it for college ;)

[maw]

i have a ranger green strider ar, built like a friggin tank.
that vallotton auto opener is pretty sweet. but that pikal folder is the dog's nads, definately on my list.

[BadKarma26]

im a lifelong Kershaw blur man

http://www.thefirestore.com/store/products/20050310115132_Photo2.jpg

[a deadly fart]

Superhawk!!! If you look on the linked page there are a lot of new knives but there are also quite a few knives that were brought back due to popular demand and improved for sprint runs. This is what's so great about spyderco, it listens to it's buyers so well. I would love to pick up the P'kal and superhawk and that bi-fold

[TacoDelRio]

Sweet deal. I'll need that Whale Rescue knife.... for.... uh... :)

[Catch22]

Some whale rescue ops naturally, Ryan!

Just about every excuse will do... ;-)