Knives, bayonets, multi tools, daggers and other pointy implements.

[Beppo]

I see a lot of high-tech gear posted here on the boards, but what about low-tech?
What kind of "combat" knives do you own/want to own, and why?

My personal "dream" knife is a handmade custom Emerson CQC6 folder with the linen micarta handle, not the plain factory-made Emersons and definitely not the "licensed" Benchmade version.


I think the reason I want this is because I'd read so much about it years ago when it first came out, in Richard Marcinko's Red Cell books, knife magazine articles, etc. It just seemed to me to be the epitome of "cool"... Of course, with a pricetag of well over $1000, I think this thing will have to wait until I either win the lottery or lose my mind completely. But here's hoping I find one in the street someday!

[Catch22]

Funny thing about them fancy knives is that most of them are well above the price limit of anyone that might be needing them for real use not just as collectibles.

Im sticking to Fallkniven F1 (I'm thinkig about A1 too) and SwissTool combo, that suits me. Rugged, simple and low-profile. Marketing and image of certain knives (otherwise very fine from mechanical/technological point of view) eg.> Striders simply scares me off.

[scrybe]

Smith & Wesson S.W.A.T. in all black and a recently purchased Gerber Applegate Farbairn Micra folder, among others. I have one of those two in my pocket at all times.

I don't have a dream knife. I generally stick in the midrange though. I don't buy trash, but I don't want a museum peice; I want something I can use.

[hughdotoh]

either a kukri, golok, bolo, or machete.

none of those shiny little doodads that make grown Rangers cry when they break.

besides, every unit has shiny kit syndrome, and better lose a sturdy $12 knife than a sexy overblown $40 razor blade.

[Mick]

my everyday sticker is

CRKT m16-4ZSF

use it pretty much every day in my work as a Forest Ranger... sturdy, well built, easy to carry, open, and close, with that slick lock to keep it open.... all for $40. Had a Benchmade Griptilian but lost it... was my first knife over 40 bucks, and it disappered after 6 months... i've never had a $40 knife less that 2 years.

I also have an OD Glock Field knife for camping, hiking, and looking cool on my airsoft loadout....

[taekwonno]

I also have a CRKT M16. They are great!

My current carry is a Spyderco Military.

[Spike_Kojima]

I was think of getting a Cold steel Recon tanto (http://www.coldsteel.com/13rtk.html). Anyone have any info on it, is it any good ?Any advice on similar size/style knives that may be better?

I'm paranoid about folders ,I'm always afraid I'd get my fingers cut off.. :oops:

[Roaming East]

Just for casual uniform wear when not on exercises or anything i carry a Gerber folder of undetermined make. has a 3 1/2 in blade in a black rubber handle. Straight blade with clipped point, no serrations. had for about 7 years now and it takes a whet stone like you wouldnt believe. easy to sharpen easy to clean. need a new hip holster for it though, the leather one has kinda frayed and rotted away

[Glass2]

CRKT Crawford PointGuard, CRKT Stiff KISS, CRKT M16, SOG SEAL Pup, Strider-Buck folder, Randall Mod. 14 Attack, Cold Steel Recon Tanto, VN era contract Camillus, Ontario RAT 7.

[BlackFlag]

good old fashion Ka-Bar knife here. :D

[shadower]

I once got knife like this from Spanish soldier I lost it but it is my favorite of all times.
http://www.aitor.com/
go to products then military then ej eso negro.The model looked same but the color was olive green.

[Totenkopf]

good old fashion Ka-Bar knife here. :D

x2... Ka-Bars rule

[HoboWithAK]

I was think of getting a Cold steel Recon tanto (http://www.coldsteel.com/13rtk.html). Anyone have any info on it, is it any good ?Any advice on similar size/style knives that may be better?

I'm paranoid about folders ,I'm always afraid I'd get my fingers cut off.. :oops:

Just don't stab/punch anything with the blade and you wont have to worry. Word of wisdom, the tanto profile blade seems to have less practical uses than a regular half moon spear (that's what I call it, whatever it is) point. And many say that it's a go all or go none deal when it comes to serrations. I like them two ways- half and half, and full serrations. I don't think that half and half makes using either the fine edge or the serrated edge unusable. I really can't fathom having a total straight edge blade, serrations in my book are a must.

[Glass2]

I personally agree about the tanto profile blade. It is an excellent fighting knife in terms of tip strength and puncture capability, but is not the greatest all around utility knife. While I love the build of my Recon Tanto, I rarely use it.

I third the Kabar. Of all the knives in the picture I posted, it probably gets the most time in the field and certainly the most use. Save of course the CRKT M16, which I carry daily and seem to use daily for something or another.

[CQB_Operator]

here's a couple of my knives

[KaceCoyote]

I'm a big Gerber fan, they tend to sharpen quite easily and have always treated me well. My Heresy Air Ranger II has survived at my side, every day since it came out a few years ago. Its been on week long hunting trips, pried stuck cases from the chamber of my .22 and cut rabbits, Raccoons and opossum. I've broken Buck, and boker and have never looked back.

[homeinvader]

Yeah, I have to say, you'll feel real stupid having a $700-$1000 custom knife in theater for it to fall out of a helo, "borrowed" by your team mate or stuck into and necessarily left behind on cliff face. In my experiece, the less expensive a knife is, the less attached you will be to it and the more you will use it.

Also has to be said, I've seen some guys hesitate or worse when they dropped something of great personal value right in the line of fire. A missing $1000 knife can be a helluva distraction when you're trying to find cover.

Cold Steel Recon Tanto, whomever nominated it, is my vote. Costs just enough to be of quality, but low enough that you won't grow attached to it and do something stupid when you're faced with losing it.

Regardless of what the knifesmiths say about who uses their products, I've never seen an SF guy with an expensive knife. Good knives, yes, but not $1000 custom works of art. No way.

[supercontra]

I was think of getting a Cold steel Recon tanto (http://www.coldsteel.com/13rtk.html). Anyone have any info on it, is it any good ?Any advice on similar size/style knives that may be better?

I'm paranoid about folders ,I'm always afraid I'd get my fingers cut off.. :oops:I ahve one and have used it a lot. It's a bit on the biggish side and a smaller knife or folder might be needed for the smallish stuff but overall it's a good knife. Edge holds well and is easy to sharpen when lost, grip won't slip even if wet, I haven't used it for hunting so I don't know how it handles when covered with blood, and it's overall economic.
Edit: That should be ergonomic, not economic, as the price tag is rather high.

[Adam Wilhelm]

This is a Cold Steal Trailmaster:



And this is a Fällkniven A1:



You do the thinking. p-)

[Catch22]

I don't have to - I've chosen that good time ago. Full tangs dont always mean the same. ;)

[Adam Wilhelm]

Catch22: good thinking. ;)

Here´s my knives:

Fällkniven F1


Fällkniven WM1

[Asheren]

My good old Gerlach skinning knife.

[Blarney]

my father is a big knife guy, but hes traditional. I currently use a Tomahawk tactical folder (not really tactical....) A benchmade 940SBK Osborne, Cold Steel SRK and Im in the process of getting a Strider SMF from a dealer I know.

[Jurpula]

I've got a Glock -81 an the Polish 98 NZ

[Spike_Kojima]

Thanks for the advice folks.

[Duvdevan]

Here's my knives

[Kaapeli]

I'll pick a regular knife over these combat versions, design and utility wonders anyday. A fantastic tool and still just as stabby as any switchbladed wonder-dagger.
Most of these knifes look like they would have very little use and durability in a rural enviroment or as tools.
And the serrated edge on the most usefull part of the knife (for carving)... What a waste.
I love camping, survival and carpentry. Less than 1/3 of these knifes would be even a decent tool in those. Rambo-knifes.... ;)

[Spike_Kojima]

I'll pick a regular knife over these combat versions, design and utility wonders anyday. A fantastic tool and still just as stabby as any switchbladed wonder-dagger.
Most of these knifes look like they would have very little use and durability in a rural enviroment or as tools.
And the serrated edge on the most usefull part of the knife (for carving)... What a waste.
I love camping, survival and carpentry. Less than 1/3 of these knifes would be even a decent tool in those. Rambo-knifes.... ;)
Well which one are the good ones? :D

[Kaapeli]

Well which one are the good ones? :D

The traditional (boring) looking ones mainly. :)



This type is what I've been using.
Good for carving, skinning and even chopping small wood if you lose your axe like I did. Or any other chore you might think off at home or in the woods. A basic knife you might say.

[Catch22]

Spike, old saying goes: Fixed is a tool, Folder is a toy.

Adam Wilhelm and I promoted swedish Fallknivens here, F1 is a good starter. Just make sure you get good sharpener like Spyderco Tri-angle. Or else Fallkniven's convex gonna be pain in the ass.

Basically folders are nice EDC (Every Day Carry) knives, good if you have something like swiss army pocket knife to support them, for technical work Multitools are unbeatable, for outdoor fixed blade variety (plus good Fiskars campind axe). For fighting... well list can go on and on... You have to see and find out what type of knife you need most.

[davis411]

check this baby out http://bugei.com/product_873_detailed.htm

[zealot]

Catch22: good thinking. ;)

Here´s my knives:

Fällkniven F1


Fällkniven WM1


Fallkniven are probably some of the best knives around,


some other quality knives (well over 200 dollars)

japanese Hattori



German Herbertz



German Puma

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Japanese sentou



Russian zlatoust

[ZoneOne]

Hissatsu






or THIS Tracker Knife - this knife I have used in the field and it has NEVER let me down

[AlexNenadic]

[Beppo]

or THIS Tracker Knife - this knife I have used in the field and it has NEVER let me down

http://www.spiritbow.com/tracker.jpg

Holy crap! I just saw this movie last week for the first time (The Hunted).
That's one badass knife!

[LoTek]

Hi,

I own both the Tactical M9 Bayonet and a Columbia River Knife & Tool M16 series knife. Both have served me well both in war and in peacetime.

They are both great !!

Thank you,

Robert

[ZoneOne]

take some classes from the guy who the movie is based off of -- and who makes the knives

then you'll have some fun

[CMEPTb]

take some classes from the guy who the movie is based off of -- and who makes the knives

then you'll have some fun

Why is the blade shaped that way?

[Roaming East]

wow, when i think of what piece of equipment on my person is the most expensive, i never figured a knife would be in the top 3....

[davis411]

here are the two that i use my grand father's bayonet(WW2) and scissors("other edged weapons")

[spunjah67]

[Ravage]

My favorite litle piece of sh** :D



Isn't this the knive, that was used by Sam Fisher in Splinter Cell 3: Chaos Theory

[KaceCoyote]

I love gerber blades! I have a freeman hunter I've taken into the field forever and a day. Tough, simple, comfortable.

[K.Johnston]

does anybody have a CQC Mark I or II?

that looks hawt... and i really like it and im just wondering if anybody has any expirence

[TacoDelRio]

I have too many knives. Here are a few:



Lone Wolf Harsey Ranger - one of my 4 daily carry knives along with a Spyderco Harpy and a Spyderco C10S on my belt, and one lovely Spyderco Spydercard hidden in my wallet :P . 4.8 inch blade. It's a folding sword. I love it. Got a huge discount on it from my previous-previous job, so I didn't have to pay the $320 or so for it! Thank God. It's a great knife. Awesome steel, Crucible S30V. Works like a champ. Holds a good keen edge all the time, and sharpens up on a Spyderco Sharpmaker real nice and quick, which is good out in the boonies. I might see if I can have custom desert tan scales made for it out of micarta or something, for a stickier grip, especially in the desert snowstorms we get stuck in. I give it a 42 out of 10!


Ka-Bar Tanto. I like it alot. The blade is thin enough that I can use it for simple stuff like opening MRE's or whatever. It's light. I wish it didn't have serrations, but oh well.


Strider FB. Real bigass awesome knife that I like but rarely use. It is awesome for chopping wood, although I don't like the tanto point on it. Or the serrations. It's 1/4 inch thick, so it will probably never break, period. This also makes it too big for small tasks. It's friggin cool though.


Glock knife: Nice knife, rusts real easy so wipe that bitch off after you get wet. I'd absolutely LOVE it if I had bought the one without the stupid root saw on it. The steel is OK, aside from the rust issue as said before. All knives can rust sooner or later, but this thing was chunky with rust within 4 hours. Looked like friggin' salsa coming off!


Glock knife and my favorite knife (almost), an issue M7 bayonet I paid $24 for.
I really like the M7 bayonet. Much more useful to me than the now-issued M9 POS. Nice thin, narrow blade. Light in weight. Real quick. I wrapped 550 cord on mine for a little more grip. I re-bevelled the blade and resharpened it to a steeper angle (30 degrees or so), and it cuts like a freakin dream now. Would be nice to have it professionally hollow-ground. I haven't had any problems with it yet. I would also choose this knife if for whatever reason had to use it as a weapon. Even though I know you guys are all against the use of bayonets as.... bayonets. ;)

And finally, to close, a picture of my nutsack:


Thank you.

[Catch22]

Jeez I'm absolutely pro bayonet. I even did some bayonet fencing few years ago (specialized masks similiar to fencing ones but much thicker, padder plastrons and gloves, rifles used were imitations of Mosin Nagants with bayos fitted with "safe" business end and thick rubber fittings on butt. Pure brutal fun p-)

[Dr. John Zoidberg]

The CRKT m16 is my everyday knife

[Doomsayer]

Here's my knives


love the commando dagger woot

[Herrmannek]

I have one stupid question, how one can break even a cheap knife when properly using it, its not a hammer for a Gods sake, I never used knifes you would call quality ones, and brooke non of them(and I cut everything from branches, through some stick sculptures, electric cables, skin, bread,milk cartoons, letters to end on oranges, also used them as screw drivers)... When I hear about knifes breaking I recal that joke about polish guy that got two metal balls, he lost one and destroyed second, and I'm sure it wasn't about balls being poor quality :)...

keeping sharp is another thing thoug but who needs razor sharp blades anyway...

[Sten3]

[BadKarma26]

Winter BDUs suck.

BOT: for my money nothin beats my Kershaw assisted opening tactical blur with modified tanto blade

[BadKarma26]

here's a couple of my knives


Also, i got that SOG on my ETLBV

[HoboWithAK]

I have one stupid question, how one can break even a cheap knife when properly using it, its not a hammer for a Gods sake, I never used knifes you would call quality ones, and brooke non of them(and I cut everything from branches, through some stick sculptures, electric cables, skin, bread,milk cartoons, letters to end on oranges, also used them as screw drivers)... When I hear about knifes breaking I recal that joke about polish guy that got two metal balls, he lost one and destroyed second, and I'm sure it wasn't about balls being poor quality :)...

keeping sharp is another thing thoug but who needs razor sharp blades anyway...

If you ever need to depend your very existance on the tools you have, you will want the best. Just because during normal use a knife wont break doesn't mean that in the 30 below weather right after a heavy rain in the high mountains it will work.

[Blarney]

me new knife I just got it and it works well, and its waterproof, so thats a plus.

[enzo100]

Mini Ka Bar and HK Tanto blade auto, my two favorites :)

[Apogee]

I bought a Benchmade AFCK before I started at the Academy. I've carried it since. A LEO friend gave me a Benchmade Stryker with some cool engravings as a graduation present. I also just bought a Benchmade Rescue Hook, we'll see how that works out.

[Beppo]

I have a question: Ka-Bars are famous as being the classic fighting knife issued to US Marines during WW2, but were they issued to the US Army as well? I know they make US Army-logo Ka-bars *nowadays* in the same style as the original USMC one, but it comes off as a sort of "you can have one too!" consolation prize. I'm just asking cause I'm in the Army now, and I've always wanted a Ka-Bar, but even as a kid I knew that the Ka-Bar was the Marines' knife.

Also, if it wasn't a Ka-Bar, does anyone know which, if any, knife was issued to Army personnel during WW2?

[SR15]

Later in the war the KA-BAR Fighting Knife was adopted by other branches of the service and were stamped accordingly.

[Tielir999]

i like the kabar because its bad ass in general and it can be attached to your gun and used as a bayonet

[Adam Wilhelm]

No, it can´t.

[Tielir999]

some can be

[Tielir999]

[Catch22]

That's a Army's M9 bayo. Along with new OKC 3 that is issued to USMC they both resemble Ka-Bars but are bayonets. Orginal piece was just heavy combat/utility knife, without ring&lock to attach it to the rifle.

OKC 3


M9


Classic Ka-Bar

[Tielir999]

ok sorry my mistake so many things out their look alike these days

[Hitman5.56]

I have 23 combat knives many of wich i got for free mostly gerber and spec army, I just got one fresh from a guy who got back from afganistan and gave me his kulkuri. Id postem if i knew how

[kk111]

Böker Grabendolch
:P

[Jedburgh]

I stay away from folders in the field. I have a few, but I won't take'em where I need a knife I can truly rely on.

I will never buy another Gerber. I treat my fixed blade knives pretty harshly, and I've had three Gerbers snap on me.

I own a few daggers, but in the field, I don't want a knife that is fully edged on both sides.

You want a knife that you can use to skin a critter, carve wood, cut through sheet metal, or be used as a pry. Not to mention ya gotta be able to punch/cut through vest and uniform material to the important bits underneath.

The traditional Ka-Bar is a simple, sturdy knife. Good for average field duty. So are the modern bayonets.

I like the Kukri, but its too damn big for comfy carry all the time. Unless you're a stocky little Gurkha. The Smatchet is another intimidating large knife - there are some great copies being made today. But the size issue is the same as the Kukri, with the design being clumsier.

I love my Randall. I didn't pay that much for it when I bought it over 20 years ago; but I won't carry it into theater anymore. I've become emotionally attached.

I have a few Eks. One in particular I swear by (I have used it as a prybar, with no damage), and I still carry it where I need it. Simple, tough and efficient.

Outside of working knives, I do collect WWII fixed blade knives. I have a Murphy, a pair of V-42s, a variety of Fairbairns, a Smatchet, and, my favorite, the Sheffield triangular-bladed OSS Sleeve Dagger.

[Sten3]

p-)

[Scrim]

My pig stickers. ;)
The original Ka-bar is an awesome knife, that thing has been through hell and back in the last fifteen years, and still going strong. The black Ontario copy is a piece of ****. The Kukri is a great replacement for a machete, but thats about it.



Anyway my Rambo days are long over and I usually just carry a folder.
Im looking at a good short fixed blade.
Anyone have this one??



Gerber LMF II ASEK.

[davis411]

p-)

rofl

[St Fubar]

J-P Peltonen "Sissi" (Ranger) knife. I have used it for just about everything from gutting fish, fowl and rabbits to chopping wood. Not the best possible knife for any of those jobs, obviously, but good enough as an all-round knife. Some people I know have managed to break these, although always by their own stupidity. Have used it for about 7 years now, and it probably shows.

[HoboWithAK]

or be used as a pry.

I hope you mean for opening cans of beans, otherwise

NEIN!

[kk111]

Linder:





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Puma:



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Eickhorn:



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Herbertz:



:P
all from solingen/germany

[Jedburgh]

or be used as a pry.

I hope you mean for opening cans of beans, otherwise

NEIN!
Hell, you can open cans of beans with your pocketknife. Can you use your field knife to pry open a crate or jimmy a door without damaging it? I've done it with my Ek. On the other hand, I've snapped a Gerber just cutting wood.

Unfortunately, the company has disappeared and reappeared twice since WWII. And the knives weren't quite the same quality the last iteration. I'm not sure if you can even get a new Ek any more.

Here's a decent pic of a recent model Ek:

[davis411]

Here is another Hissatsu pic.

[TacoDelRio]

Just got a USN Mk3 MOD 0:

I like it. I don't like the sheath though. Anyone got the same knife and purchased an aftermarket sheath they recommend?

[Frens]

Eagle Industries and Spec Ops Brand (also Blackhawk but IMHO Eagle&SOB are better) offer nylon/cordura seaths

;)

[Frens]

[Beinlausen]

Mine, just mine!

[innocent_bystander]

A few of mine.

[Catch22]

Well... yes..."a few" definately... ;-)

Care to introduce us to some of your sharp friends InnocentB? And share few opinions too.

[TacoDelRio]

I'm so artistic.

[Jelle H.]

2 of my stiletto's, What do you guys think of these rare babies:

U.S.M.C. Raider Stiletto

[img=http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/2852/usmcraider13cu.jpg] (http://imageshack.us)

[img=http://img449.imageshack.us/img449/6853/usmcraider29yr.jpg] (http://imageshack.us)

British Fairbairn & Sikes Stiletto

[img=http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/5792/fsfightingknife14kq.jpg] (http://imageshack.us)

[img=http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/8021/fsfightingknife22tl.jpg] (http://imageshack.us)

[Jelle H.]

Damn imageshack.. Ill post some picks when I have my adsl back. Doin 56k right now..

[CQB_Operator]

just remove the brackets, and img= and it will work!!!:)

[Jelle H.]

Below 2 of my stiletto's, What do you guys think of these rare babies?

[Jelle H.]

Thanks CQB!

U.S.M.C. Raider Stiletto

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/2852/usmcraider13cu.jpg

http://img449.imageshack.us/img449/6853/usmcraider29yr.jpg

British Fairbairn & Sikes Stiletto

http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/5792/fsfightingknife14kq.jpg

http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/8021/fsfightingknife22tl.jpg[/QUOTE]

[CQB_Operator]

Thanks CQB!

U.S.M.C. Raider Stiletto

http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/2852/usmcraider13cu.jpg

http://img449.imageshack.us/img449/6853/usmcraider29yr.jpg

British Fairbairn & Sikes Stiletto

http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/5792/fsfightingknife14kq.jpg

http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/8021/fsfightingknife22tl.jpg[/quote]
really nice daggers

[GuiltySpark]

[wiking]

I've got a leatherman multitool and a really, really, really old folder with a wood handle :D

They're more than enough for the kind of stuff i need a knife for.

But i'd love something like this:




And i mean a real one, not the buck-fifty pieces of metal produced in massive numbers, but a hand made several thousand dollar things :hug: they are really cool. But damned expensive.

And these are cool, but illegal :-(

[Beppo]

I would really love to own a badass "everyday carry" knife (I seriously want an Emerson), but that fact that I live in civilization and have 2 REALLY good everyday multitools -- plus 2 slightly used/broken ones I keep as backups -- makes shelling out the money for a plain old single-bladed knife pretty much pointless (no pun intended).

That said, as much as I'm drooling after the Tom Brown Tracker knife (pictured above from the movie The Hunted), the next blade I would likely buy for actual work use would probably be a simple $18 machete.

[GuiltySpark]

The more I play with the tom brown tracker the more I like it. Feels great, just a little big and heavy. Even has that new knife smell.
(I just can't let my wife catch me. She surprised me with it, it's a christmas present, suposed to stay hidden)

That said the chances of me actually using it at work are very slim to none.
My wife couldn't be more proud of herself so I aien't telling her the truth of the matter. I'll make sure it comes home dirty.

I'm always surprised at how handy a $10 machette turns out to be and hey if you lose it or some dummy snaps it, it's $10. Beats loosing a knife worth $345 Cdn. I'd like to pick up the Coldsteel riflemans tomahawk but their never in stock around here and we get raped at the border bringing stuff in from the US.

[TacoDelRio]

The more I play with the tom brown tracker the more I like it. Feels great, just a little big and heavy. Even has that new knife smell.
(I just can't let my wife catch me. She surprised me with it, it's a christmas present, suposed to stay hidden)

That said the chances of me actually using it at work are very slim to none.
My wife couldn't be more proud of herself so I aien't telling her the truth of the matter. I'll make sure it comes home dirty.

I'm always surprised at how handy a $10 machette turns out to be and hey if you lose it or some dummy snaps it, it's $10. Beats loosing a knife worth $345 Cdn. I'd like to pick up the Coldsteel riflemans tomahawk but their never in stock around here and we get raped at the border bringing stuff in from the US.

Your wife is badass.

[FDF_Hemppis]

I

But i'd love something like this:

And i mean a real one, not the buck-fifty pieces of metal produced in massive numbers, but a hand made several thousand dollar things :hug: they are really cool. But damned expensive.


Hell, who wouldn't want a real katana? :D

Though, I read from somewhere that the really REAL Japanese handmade katanas are considered as national treasures, and cannot (well, legally) be exported from Japan :(.

And the prices start from a 5-figure sum...

Oh well, we can always dream :p

[wiking]

Hell, who wouldn't want a real katana? :D

Though, I read from somewhere that the really REAL Japanese handmade katanas are considered as national treasures, and cannot (well, legally) be exported from Japan :(.

And the prices start from a 5-figure sum...

Oh well, we can always dream :p

you can get new made katana's for 2-3-4-5 thousand, hand made where it has to be but a few corners cut where using people to do it would take ages and cost more than you'd be willing to pay. These are used by people like the guy in the .gif in my post.

[FDF_Hemppis]

you can get new made katana's for 2-3-4-5 thousand, hand made where it has to be but a few corners cut where using people to do it would take ages and cost more than you'd be willing to pay. These are used by people like the guy in the .gif in my post.
Traditional Japanese katanas for that price? I thought you could only get those "crappy" western pieces for that money?

Oh well, I'm not buying one, and haven't looked in to it THAT deeply, so I'll take your word for it :)

[Johnny_H]

http://www.csnation.net/images/content/image_31174.jpg

[Beppo]

I'd like to pick up the Coldsteel riflemans tomahawk but their never in stock around here and we get raped at the border bringing stuff in from the US.Can't you just open the package, put it in your trunk, and act as if you've had it for years?

[Catch22]

Beppo the smuggler :-D

[GuiltySpark]

I've considered doing that a few times but it's a serious risk. Border guys can tear the **** out of your car if they even suspect your hiding something and you foot the bill to put it back together.

I've met some border guards who are cool guys, i've met some that didn't even seem to know what province their in and i've met a lot of them with little man your in my world now syndrom.

It's pretty frustrating trying ot get **** across the border. I've had a ka-bar knife refused. Even had the stock for a 12 gague refused because it's a part of a firearm. It's a piece of wood for christ sakes. I'm surprised the tom brown tracker made it through, maybe someone was having a good day.

[wiking]

I've considered doing that a few times but it's a serious risk. Border guys can tear the **** out of your car if they even suspect your hiding something and you foot the bill to put it back together.

I've met some border guards who are cool guys, i've met some that didn't even seem to know what province their in and i've met a lot of them with little man your in my world now syndrom.

It's pretty frustrating trying ot get **** across the border. I've had a ka-bar knife refused. Even had the stock for a 12 gague refused because it's a part of a firearm. It's a piece of wood for christ sakes. I'm surprised the tom brown tracker made it through, maybe someone was having a good day.

Well, isn't there any run down little roads where the border guards are few and far between? Wasn't canada where all the booze came from during prohibition, i guess you could copy them. p-)

[Juusto]

Finnish JP Peltonen Sissipuukko (Ranger knife) M/95



Thanks to roll lock mechanism, you can carry this upside down and still easy to take off when needed.

[CoRe]

So sweet...

[Dalleer]

I've been thinking about getting one of those Glock - knives.

As one of you said a few posts back rust develops on the blade if it's not wiped clean everytime it's been used. I've just been wondering if it would be a good purchase despite it.

Another question as well concerning the Glock-knives. What's the difference between the knife with the saw edge and the normal plain edged one ? To what sorts of activities would the saw-edged one be better suited for ?

[Jippo]

Glock knives are cheap, and ok for the money but far from good. For example the mentioned Peltonen ranger knife is far better in terms of worksmanship, ergonomics, usability, materials, etc.

Glock knives have safe sheath with positive locking which is a big plus considering the price.


-jippo

[wiking]

I'm looking for a simple, reasonable priced folder. Preferably with some form of press-button one hand opening (it's cool, so bugger if it's crap).
Anyone got a tip?

[TacoDelRio]

I've been thinking about getting one of those Glock - knives.

As one of you said a few posts back rust develops on the blade if it's not wiped clean everytime it's been used. I've just been wondering if it would be a good purchase despite it.

Another question as well concerning the Glock-knives. What's the difference between the knife with the saw edge and the normal plain edged one ? To what sorts of activities would the saw-edged one be better suited for ?

THey're OK. I wouldn't buy one again, and I got mine new for $15. Go with another knife.

However, the sheath design is awesome. One-handed release, VERY fast to replace too.

[TacoDelRio]

I'm looking for a simple, reasonable priced folder. Preferably with some form of press-button one hand opening (it's cool, so bugger if it's crap).
Anyone got a tip?

SOG Flash 2

Usually about $70. Very durable. I beat the sh*t out of mine constantly for a year, then gave it to my buddy in Washington, and he loves it. Real fast to deploy, but it's not automatic, it's "assisted", which means you gotta move the blade about 1/16 of an inch before the worky movey bits take over. Like my description?
http://www.sogknives.com/home.htm
http://www.sogknives.com/flash.htm

[GuiltySpark]

Wiking, in my neck of the woods I need to head across the st-lawerence and my hometown is ground zero for cross border smuggling. You can't even go parking by the waterfront without our RCMP (fbi) jumping up your ass. Maybe one of you boys should visit Canada and bring some toys!


Look slike a lot of us shop at the same knife store heh

[Esszett]

So sweet...

I own one of these.
Paid about 90 € for it.
The sheath is pretty cool but I don't like that the steel of the blade isn't very hard. And I had to get used to the (American-) Tanto-style shape.
Btw. does anyone know if it's true that the manufacturer (Eickhorn, Solingen) is insolvent now? If so, are they still produced now? Thnx

[TacoDelRio]

Can anyone suggest a nylon/cordura sheath for this knife:

USN Mk3 MOD 0 6" Blade length

I bought one a while back, and the issue sheath leaves much to be desired. There are lots of great sheaths out there, but I need one that is designed to carry a 6 inch blade maximum, otherwise the other one's I've tried have lots of room and excess length that flaps around, and eventually will get worn and cut through by the tip.

If anyone has any ideas, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,
-Ryan

[Creeper]

I have a Mk3Mod0 also, not a bad tool for $00.00. nice hard end plate 4 cracking windows,skulls etc.
Which sheath do you have? the blk plastic piece of shyte thingma jinga?
I know a man(Frog) @ BrigadeQuartermasters.com, he carries a large amount of edge ware etc. Chk their website out. If you have no luck PM me, and I'll go 2 him myself.

[Glass2]

BHI, Eagle and Spec Ops Brand all make good Cordura sheaths with Kydex type inserts in them. I believe the BHI and Eagle ones can be had in a shorter length than the standard 7" ones.

I have a Spec Ops Brand that came with a knife I picked up, and really like it. It carries nearly every knife I put in there equally well. Came with a RAT-7, and carries my KABAR and Randall #14 excellent.

Hope that helps.

[TacoDelRio]

I have a Mk3Mod0 also, not a bad tool for $00.00. nice hard end plate 4 cracking windows,skulls etc.
Which sheath do you have? the blk plastic piece of shyte thingma jinga?
I know a man(Frog) @ BrigadeQuartermasters.com, he carries a large amount of edge ware etc. Chk their website out. If you have no luck PM me, and I'll go 2 him myself.

I saw the SOB Combat Master model, but it's longer than the knife.

I have the ****ty issue sheath that looks like a dildo. I'm not too picky about keeping my knives all pretty, but having the metal part scrape the finish off the blade can help rust propogate later on down the road, especially during the rainy season. That's a no-go.

I may end up making a sheath. Damn.... somewhat suprised there aren't any sheaths out there that I have found yet!

[Creeper]

OK- here is the scoop on the poop - The "spec-ops" brand of sheath look pretty good etc, However dueto the narrow WIDTH of a Mk3Md0 Navy as compared to the width slot of that sheath, it makes for a flimsey set up. there is substantial side to sid play , as expected of a .25 +/- diffrence, inregardless of the niffty securing strap around the grip.

Try this> http://http://www.extremeoutfitters.us/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=2.
or http://http://www.lightfighter.com/.
There is a nother nylon gear shop out by Camp P. down by S.D., (SOE Tech??)
THats all I got so far.
w/regards

[TacoDelRio]

The link from Extreme Outfitters didn't work. I'll try it again.

Tried Lightfighter. Can't find one that fits just right.

SO TECH is in Los Angeles, so I might see if I can't just drop by someday after work, if they let me in!

Thanks for all the help, Creeper. I think I might end up making my own though! Man is that gonna take some patience, especially with sewing. Not a favorite psttime of mine!!! I'll be sure to put frilly lace on it!

[Creeper]

go>"extremeoutfitters.com" on the Google bar.

[Gerber]

I've had my Gerber LMF II (Infantry) for a couple of weeks now, I've used it on a few overnighters in the Ocala National Forest. Feels great in hand, has some heft to it, and looks good too. I have used it to trim sheet metal off my jeep, chop a little wood, clean fish, and oh yeah...it cuts into a can of beans like butter. So far I would def. recommend it, it's replaced my desert Kabar as my no. 1 field knife.

It's not the ASEK version, I don't think there's any difference between the Infantry and the ASEK except I don't have the extraction tool.

Gerber...out

[Beppo]

Gerber...out

King Tab, is that you?

[Sinfulcurves_AK107]

damn, huge thread, not gonna go through 'em all. Anyways, I have 2 S&W knives, one is SWAT style... Aaaaand, I jus won this one on ebay





;) can't wait. I HAD an AK-74 Boker automatic... hopefully I can buy another soon

edit: here's the S&W SWAT knife I have.

[TacoDelRio]

damn, huge thread, not gonna go through 'em all. Anyways, I have 2 S&W knives, one is SWAT style... Aaaaand, I jus won this one on ebay





;) can't wait. I HAD an AK-74 Boker automatic... hopefully I can buy another soon

edit: here's the S&W SWAT knife I have.



You need some real knives, ma'am!!!!

[Sinfulcurves_AK107]

^ ^ hehe, those are fine to me.. I need something compact, nothing fixed, I wouldn't be able to conceal, or walk around with that in a sheath or anything... hehe. I'ma get a lil S&W .50 cal blade, it's sooooo cute.

[wiking]

^ ^ hehe, those are fine to me.. I need something compact, nothing fixed, I wouldn't be able to conceal, or walk around with that in a sheath or anything... hehe. I'ma get a lil S&W .50 cal blade, it's sooooo cute.




cute....you really are a girl aren't you :)

[CQB_Operator]

I gonna get this one for XMas (Boker Kalashnikov AK47 Liner Locking Folder )



Sinfulcurves_AK107, have you a pic of theAK-74 Boker automatic???:)

[Sinfulcurves_AK107]

CQB, I unfortunately don't have mine anymore (was confiscated, don't ask, hehe) but here's how it pretty much looks



That's a gorgeous one your gettin, but it's a bit pricey, i think like $150, or $200? Seen some on ebay, they rarely ever sell at that price.

[Sinfulcurves_AK107]

cute....you really are a girl aren't you :)

hehe, ya. I guess I actually find some femininity in knives like that ;)

[CQB_Operator]

CQB, I unfortunately don't have mine anymore (was confiscated, don't ask, hehe) but here's how it pretty much looks



That's a gorgeous one your gettin, but it's a bit pricey, i think like $150, or $200? Seen some on ebay, they rarely ever sell at that price.

It's a really nice knife ( sorry it was confiscated :roll: ) and the case is very original.
I can get my AK-47 from a Knivesite for $300 S&H included!!!

[wiking]

300 bucks.....thats allmost 2000 in norwegian krone! :| wow.

[Sinfulcurves_AK107]

$300 is pretty damn expensive, might wanna try ebay to knock off a $100 or so...

[CQB_Operator]

I gonna have a look on ebay or if U know a good webaddress for the AK47 ;-)

[Chops]

I'm looking for a simple, reasonable priced folder. Preferably with some form of press-button one hand opening (it's cool, so bugger if it's crap).
Anyone got a tip?

Go with a Gerber folder- mine's getting on 10+ years and still kicking- as someone else said they take an edge beautifully. Only other blade I've ever used in the field are numerous Leatherman multis. Never seen the point of all of these high speed 'tactical' blades- they get that close I'm giving up :-)

C

[Eddo36]

New Bayonet Puts Marine Corps on the Cutting Edge

Los Angeles Times
January 19, 2003
Author: Tony Perry; Times Staff Writer

A sharper weapon that can better double as a fighting knife is being issued. The blade, which can pierce body armor, is tested in Afghanistan.

In an era of remote-control, ultra-high-technology weaponry, the Marine Corps is looking to an updated version of a fighting tool that dates from the 17th century: the bayonet.

Within a few months, the Corps plans to equip each Marine with a bayonet that is sharper and stronger than its World War II predecessor and also can double more effectively as a fighting knife.

"We've created this myth that we can stay in the clouds and win wars," said bayonet expert Homer Brett, who serves as a consultant to the Marine Corps. "But the only way to control territory is with infantry, and for the individual fighter on the ground, a bayonet is indispensable."

The weapon upgrade is part of a push begun two years ago by then-Commandant Gen. James L. Jones to expand and toughen hand-to-hand combat training for Marines, including more training in the martial arts and knife fighting.

The new bayonet -- with a steel blade 8 inches long, 15/16 inches wide and which weighs 1 1/4 pounds with its scabbard -- is slightly longer, thicker and heavier than the current model.

A sharper point and serrations near the handle help penetrate body armor that many modern adversaries wear.

In one demonstration, a prototype was able to pierce a punching bag covered with aircraft aluminum and a bulletproof flak jacket.

Also, the handle is more oval than round to prevent repetitive-stress injuries during training.

"We spent a lot of time making sure the handle was ergonomically correct,'' said Nick Trbovich Jr., president and chief executive of Ontario Knife Co., which won the Marine bayonet contract after a yearlong competition. ''There are no blister points on the handle. The Marines are the best and they deserve the best."

The Franklinville, N.Y., firm already provides knives for Air Force pilots and Navy SEALs, bayonets for the Army and combat machetes.

With an order of up to 120,000, the projected cost per bayonet is $36.35. The weapon got its first test by troops in Afghanistan.

''We hope they never have to use it, but if they do, we want Marines to have the best equipment possible,'' said Maj. Renee Holmes, project officer for the bayonet testing program run by the Marine Corps Systems Command in Quantico, Va.

Trainees at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego get their first instruction in using the bayonet as a lethal weapon on their 10th day.

"The reality of being in the Marine Corps sets in when they fix the bayonet for the first time," said Staff Sgt. James Hall, who teaches bayonet fighting. "It all becomes real to them."

The essence of bayonet fighting is to spring forward -- "Spring, not hop!" Hall bellowed to recruits -- from a modified crouch and thrust the blade into the enemy.

Recruits are taught how to slash an enemy diagonally from shoulder to hipbone and how to use a bayonet to push aside the enemy's weapon.

"The purpose of a bayonet is to stick your enemy as quickly and as many times as freaking possible," Hall told 300 recruits.

"Yes, sir!" they shouted.

Tradition holds that the modern bayonet, modeled after a knife attached to a lance used by medieval knights, was invented in Bayonne, France, in the early 17th century.

The weapon's heyday came during those centuries when battles were fought by facing armies in headlong assaults.

In 1757, Frederick the Great issued his famous order: "By push of bayonets; no firing till you see the whites of their eyes."

The advent of heavy artillery decreased their usefulness. Bayonet charges during the trench warfare of World War I were notably unsuccessful.

World War I British infantry officer and poet Wilfred Owen, in his lament "Soldier's Dream," wishes that God "rusted every bayonet with His tears."

In a modern context, bayonets are known to be particularly good for controlling prisoners, poking an enemy to see whether he is dead and for when the fighter is out of ammunition or so close to the enemy that firing a round is impossible.

"You could find yourself in a Afghan cave someday where a bayonet is going to be very helpful," Hall told the recruits as their eyes widened.
Probably the best bayonet ever made. Although bayonets prolly aren't used much, learned it on my 10th day in MCRD. Any Marines here who were in Iraq had any use for this?

[Icarus1]

My opinion is that a good knife on your side is never a wrong thing. As a cutting tool or the last chance in a fight.

Like the story of the brits in iraq who charged with bayonet the enemy trenches. Like I said: Always a good thing to have a sharp knife on your side.

[Roids]

Bah...a muti-tool and a sharpened E-tool does a better job I say.

[LthrnckZero]

They can be quite useful for crowd control, if nothing else. The intimidation factor is key. Think about it, if you're in a crowd of trouble makers, and you see a platoon of Marines throw that bayonet on their weapons, are you are more or less likely to try to screw with said Marines? I think you'll take a step or two back, I know I would.

[tehllama]

Uhh, I'm a bit partial to a nice fixed blade knife, especially one that works as a bayonet, so I have to say it's great.

I haven't handled the grip material, but apparenty the Corps was big on that, and I can't imaginge them begging for crap.

I'll be getting one really soon, that's because it looks like a great knife. Unit cost is also nnot too shabby under $40 for a decent cutting peice, I just wish they had retained some textured bits on the back, like a multifunction nub (read beer/can opener) or something.

Also, I'd imagine that when Argyll&Sutherland lads strapped on bayonets, at least one enemy shat himself.

[Ruledbyjames]

Hi
Im going away and Im looking for a good military foldable knife. Blade about 3inches. Im also looking for help about a sleeping bag for a warm climate. All advice welcome.
Thanks.

[Silent 6]

Hi
Im going away and Im looking for a good military foldable knife. Blade about 3inches. Im also looking for help about a sleeping bag for a warm climate. All advice welcome.
Thanks.
Benchmade folders are always good. try also a Gerber multi-tool.

For sleeping bags...hit your local camping store, REI, Campmore
Check out Backpacker.com for gear recommendations.

[Beppo]

How much money you willing to spend?

[ironcross6]

WWW.coldsteel.com

they send a video of all the torture testing they do to knives, when you see you will believe. the marketing speech is " the strongest sharpest knives" well i believe. they are incredibly strong particularly the crucial locking mechanism. the steel is quality and they properly grind the blade to cut. the CEO is in black belt magazine often and seems to really know the application side as well as the design part. like i said when you see you will believe. they hang 45-90 lbs weights on the knife while in a vise to prove lock strength. have you ever seen how they test samuri swords? they cut the rolled up rice mats? well i have a 5in voyager they show do a one shot hack through a mat on the video. the comment made is 'that is your wrist or lower arm"

go to the website and see what you like then google cold steel knives and shop the cutlery stores that have the same knife for half-price

[ironcross6]

http://stores.ebay.com/Military-Griffin_W0QQssPageNameZviQ3astoreviewQQtZkm

ok if that doesnt work email me cause i had to type it in. this guy has some really good deals on lots of kit. their is a Halo 3 bag rated to 35degrees which compresses to the size of a us 1qt canteen for $50

i got a Molle assualt pack that is on the camelbak website for $200 for $60 and had no issues. and ebay is very reliable

just trying to save you some $$$$

regards

[Blarney]

Hi
Im going away and Im looking for a good military foldable knife. Blade about 3inches. Im also looking for help about a sleeping bag for a warm climate. All advice welcome.
Thanks.

gets a benchmade pika 10410 is the model number and a british Wiggys ultralight

[LoTek]

Hi,

Columbia River Knife & Tool makes good folders in the Carson Series: http://www.crkt.com/carsdsrt.html

Robert

[TacoDelRio]

Howdy guys

I just got a Leatherman Supertool 200 because I got sick of Chinese crap. In all reality, I don't need a ton of tools on it, just a flathead and Phillips screwdriver, file, can opener, good strong pliers, with wire cutters, blasting cap crimper, blasting cap-punch and all that built in. Oh yes and a 1913 rail for a vertical grip ;). Even though I no longer need a blasting cap crimper, hopefully my life ends up going in the direction to play with those once more. (Wouldn't it hafta be non-magnetic for that to be done safely, 3v max?)

I talked to a chick who knows her sh!t at the local knife shop, and asked if she felt the Gerbers or the Leatherman's were superior. She said Gerber, because apparently Leatherman outsourced (suprise suprise) to China or Mexico and their sh!t started to fall apart. I used to sell knives, guns, gear, tools etc, and have had a very low opinion of Gerber from their Chinese and Taiwanese knives that fell apart after a rough tour of duty on our padded shelf. I've only held one Gerber tool, and it had plastic parts that felt like sh!t.

Anyone here have experience?

I'm also looking at SOG.

Here are the models I'm interested in:
SOG EOD Powerlock: http://www.sogknives.com/eodpwrlck.htm


Gerber 600 DET (Whatever the hell that means): http://www.gerber-tools.com/Gerber-Multi-Plier-600-det.htm


Any feedback and experience is appreciated!

-Ryan

[akmarksman]

I have a Gerber Urban Legend (800 series I think)
It's bigger than a Leatherman..but it's built well and built strong.
My HM3 cousin has a leatherman because he tends to lose his tools and he went the cheap route.

My sister had my Gerber multi-tool (600 series I think) and it works just fine.What this about the plastic parts?

The DET Gerber is for EOD..Got a special spike to stick a DETonator in a chunk of C4..also the pliers end has military cap crimpers. It's a good tool.

Both are good..however if you didn't mind the extra weight..I would go with a gerber Urban Legend.

[TacoDelRio]

I have a Gerber Urban Legend (800 series I think)
It's bigger than a Leatherman..but it's built well and built strong.
My HM3 cousin has a leatherman because he tends to lose his tools and he went the cheap route.

My sister had my Gerber multi-tool (600 series I think) and it works just fine.What this about the plastic parts?

The DET Gerber is for EOD..Got a special spike to stick a DETonator in a chunk of C4..also the pliers end has military cap crimpers. It's a good tool.

Both are good..however if you didn't mind the extra weight..I would go with a gerber Urban Legend.

Does the Gerber ub3r legend have blasting cap diameter crimpers and the C4 punch?

[Royal]

I've had a couple of Leathermans over the years. The only one that has broken is the one I was issued (where one of the plier noses snapped off). Leatherman replaced it with a new one for free.

Gerbers always seem a bit big and heavy for me.

I use the crimpers that come with them for dets - pusser usually gives you tools for a reason...

[TacoDelRio]

Thanks for the input guys

[Steve Andrews]

The Victorinox Swisstool is worth a look. Many people, including me, find it superior to Leatherman products.

I have had four Leathermans but I recently replaced my Leatherman Pulse with a Swisstool Spirit.
Great tool - and when you pull out one of the tools you get one - not a clump of them!

[D.Ranger]

There is nothing that a Leatherman cannot fix...

I felt like McGuyver with it!!

[Royal]

Leatherman and a Snugpack Softee 3.

[Frens]

I have a Gerber 800 Legend and the 600 Multi Plier. both great stuff but the 600 seems to be more sturdy than the 800

[Beppo]

SOG Powerlock effin' rules. The gears' handle-to-plier ratio give you twice as much gripping power on the business end. You can also invert the handles to get in hard to reach spots and because of the gears, it still retains the gripping power.

[EsoognomEhT]

We call our RSM Gerber.

He's the ultimate tool

p-)

[iacco]

I have been using multi plier for years starting with some swiss stuff (Victorinox and Wenger) knife with plier.
I usually started with the chinese tools (to understand the critical points) and after I bought the original ones.
Year after year I discover that in modern warfare that unscrewing nuts is more likely than cutting logs.
Therefore I started using plier in EVERY conditions.
I used the multiplier in outdoor and for military use.
I had leatherman tools, Gerber tools, and others.
But at last I discover that a plier must have:

- a knife and a plier that can be used immediately with a "one hand operation"
- a plier that can lock (if you REALLY want to pull a clutch wire, lock something or unscrew a nut)
- a quite narrow nose that in case of emergency could be used for sewing operations (rucksack, webbing, skin!) and piercing use (locking a nail between the pliers).

Moreover it must be

- enough long to be used as an offensive tool even when closed (as a sort of hammer) on knees, heads, and other "hard" surface of the body.
- maintained easily without any special tool.

therefore , the Kershaw multitool looks to be the best (in my opinion).

bye

[Ruledbyjames]

Spending about 40 dollars on the knife. Not sure about the bag though,maybe 120 dollars? Ive been looking at the Columbia river knife M16 14m. Any thoughts.

Thanks for the advice.

[Falco]

I use a leatherman wave, and it has addressed my neends in term of a multi-tool in a exemplary fashion.

Here are a few threads regarding the issue

http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=2273&page=1&pp=10
http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=9701

[Violence Of Action]

im enjoying the SOG multi-tool

[LoTek]

Hi,

Knife: http://cgi.ebay.com/IRAQI-FREEDOM-KNIFE-CRKT-M16-13ZMI-DESERT-CAMO-ZYTEL_W0QQitemZ6584428094QQcategoryZ1403QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Sleeping Bag: http://cgi.ebay.com/US-Military-Issue-Extreme-Cold-Sleeping-Bag-Nice_W0QQitemZ7197487140QQcategoryZ87101QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thank you,

Robert

[ironcross6]

cant speak to quality but i always thought the pliers operation on leathermans was better.

the gerbers handles meet and that seemed to make it more difficult to use. i used to crank on the M60 blank adapter and the leather worked better at getting it off. seemed to get more pressure

[Sten3]

knife: S&W H.R.T
http://www.knivesplus.com/SW-HRTMGS.HTML
highres if req. ...

SB: CARINTHIA (used by over 40 army´s)
http://www.carinthia-bags.com/home.htm

[Ruledbyjames]

Thanks all, Id say Im sorted.
Cheers!!!

[Sabre]

Got a Leatherman Blast and it does the trick. The main deciding factor for me was price vs functions.

I reckoned I only needed a knife, a couple screwdrivers, some pliers, wire strippers, scissors and a saw. The blast has all those and a few extras, but doesn't complicate the issue with any more extraneous kit. It's a new 2005 model with the more comfortable grips. I was going to go for a Gerber (as I own a Gator knife, which is excellent), either the 400 compact sport or the new deisel, but I opted for the leatherman.

[GeraldDuval]

I own a dumbed downed civvie version Gerber and it's held up through everything i've needed it to do, and best of all, mine was free! I found it.

[TacoDelRio]

I'll hafta play with that Swiss multitool. The chick at the shop said it was her choice.

[TacoDelRio]

I'm sure you decided already, btu here goes:

CRKT M16: I had an M16 Zytel, and it's a good knife. Gave it to my friend, he still uses it.

Good for the money.

Smith and Wesson knives: Quality ranges somewhere in between a sack of human feces, and a sack of whale feces. I wouldn't sell one to Michael Moore.

Not even good for the pesos!

Benchmade Pika: ANY red-class Benchmade is a foreign-made piece of equipment. While they are not crap, I'd still opt for somehting else.

Check out Kershaw. THe majority of their knives, such as the SPEEDSAFE assisted openers are AMERICAN MADE, VERY VERY SCARY SHARP, and cheap! Very nice knives, high quality.


Wiggy's makes good bags, so I've heard. Might want to check out Cabela's.

www.cabelas.com

[rob]

used leatherman for years owned many(**** gets lost). nothing but absolutely the best to say for it.

i have owned one gerber. it broke straight through the seemingly thoughest part first time out. it is still sitting in my car for years ago in two pieces. the quality is questionable at best from what i have seen. even the fit is ****.

maybe i just got a bad egg, but that was and still is hard to shake off. but if yours work then more power to you.

[akmarksman]

The only thing that broke on my Urban Legend was one of the teeth for cutting part of the pliers(should known NOT to cut wire that was almost 1/4" in diameter...)but the teeth are replaceable.

[Angelwings]

The FDF has unofficially used leatherman for years and the original ones had several breaks in hard mil use. The mil use is not very gentle so maybe they were pushed beoynd reasonable. Maybe they were bad eggs and maybe Leatherman has improved. Maybe.

I'd recommend either Gerber or the Victorinox.

[Catch22]

SwissTool (space filler)

[Ipkiss]

I bought a gerber at Hohenfells CMTC in 1999. Abused it to the fullest that winter. Took me another 3 years before something broke. A cold winter FTX in Poland broke one of the screwdrivers. No problem for the warranty though. I like the Gerber over the Leatherman because it's easier to open using one hand (while you're holding something else). Also i noticed Leathermans pliers joints become loose over the years.

[Ravage]

Can anybody tell me anything about this knive, I want to buy it, but I perfer that someone tells me anything about it, before I do that.
Here are some photos:
Smith & Wesson HRT Military Boot knife

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[TacoDelRio]

Made in China.

I used to sell knives. There's a reason I never sold one of these to anyone. Piece of crap. Do not purchase, even for the low price. There are plenty of better knives out there for a similar price.

[ZaakM433]

most of the knives made by gun companies suck - though there are a few exceptions. Smith and Wesson knives are NOT one of the exceptions...

[JoaMei]

The black coated blade will look like **** very soon if you use it.

[Beppo]

most of the knives made by gun companies suck - though there are a few exceptions. Smith and Wesson knives are NOT one of the exceptions...
So Smith & Wesson knives suck? I have one ("Extreme Special Ops") but it was given to me by a guy who owned two. I keep wanting to buy a good, high-quality knife (like an Emerson) but the reality that I have absolutely NO use for a "combat knife" for fighting or to slice people's throats with kinda kills that urge.
I have like 3 folders (all acquired for free) which mostly I use to open up DVDs and other packaging with. I wish I could justify to myself spending $200 on a good solid knife, but I always come up against common sense.

[ZaakM433]

So Smith & Wesson knives suck? I have one ("Extreme Special Ops") but it was given to me by a guy who owned two. I keep wanting to buy a good, high-quality knife (like an Emerson) but the reality that I have absolutely NO use for a "combat knife" for fighting or to slice people's throats with kinda kills that urge.
I have like 3 folders (all acquired for free) which mostly I use to open up DVDs and other packaging with. I wish I could justify to myself spending $200 on a good solid knife, but I always come up against common sense.

show me a knife you cant open up dvd packaging with.

[signatory]

So Smith & Wesson knives suck? I have one ("Extreme Special Ops") but it was given to me by a guy who owned two. I keep wanting to buy a good, high-quality knife (like an Emerson) but the reality that I have absolutely NO use for a "combat knife" for fighting or to slice people's throats with kinda kills that urge.
I have like 3 folders (all acquired for free) which mostly I use to open up DVDs and other packaging with. I wish I could justify to myself spending $200 on a good solid knife, but I always come up against common sense.

well yeah, only women need 'jewelry' worth that much p-)


Morakniv, US$ 2 bucks. Killed a foreign minister. (Yes that's DNA)

[Seraphim]

If you want a good inexpensive knife, go for Cold Steel.

[ironcross6]

quality and low price? see Seraphim above. cold steel. search the net and you will get better prices. i have a S&W tanto folder. heavy dull pooly designed blade. i have a cold steel voyager lighter with a bigger better designed blade and sharp. very sharp

btw: a freaking screw fell out the the smith and wesson. i had to loctite and tighten all the others to keep it from falling apart

[Moghi]

http://www.almarknives.com/

Look no further.

[TacoDelRio]

Al Mar makes fantastic knives. If I do remember, it is owned and operated by a former US Army 18 series, or it could be how Col. Nick Rowe helped design the SERE knife, one or the other. If you ever think that $200 is finally worth it (it is to me), check out their SERE series.

[ZaakM433]

everybody knows that Strider Knives rule all but custom.

[TacoDelRio]

I like my Strider, but it's 1/4 inch thick. I can't sharpen it for crap, and it's kinda not-so-well-suited for everyday stuff, like cutting cord or poking sh1t. I'm sure that could be alleviated by purchasing a different model. That's alot of $$$$.

I like my Ontario US Navy issue Mk3 knife. May be issue, and the grinds aren't perfect, but it's a great knife! It may not be custom, but in all honesty, if I had a choice of fixed blade, that's the one out of my whole collection including customs!

Here it is:

About $70

[Ravage]

What about "Gerber Guardian Back-Up knife"

[Sayeret]

I recently bought a Kershaw's Ken Onion Knife, for $40. I really like and I think it's pretty good quality.

This is it:

[akmarksman]

Becker Knife and Tool makes a good fixed blade.
For pocket I use some cheapo hardware store knives..
that's until I break down and buy the HK/Emerson knife..

[akmarksman]

AH..yes they do.
My cousin's leatherman experienced that same problem

[TacoDelRio]

I recently bought a Kershaw's Ken Onion Knife, for $40. I really like and I think it's pretty good quality.

This is it:



Kershaw makes fantastic knives, so long as you stick to their American lineup. They are offered at great prices, and the speedsafe assisted-opening feature is quick. Very sharp blades out of the box. Excellent EDC (Every Day Carry) knives.

[Wheke C9]

I can open my Wave easily with one hand...

I love my Leatherman. I've used it to strip wire, cut shi't, open shi't, pop locks and all sorts of other stuff.

It's The Shi't.

[Catch22]

Kraver, try defining your needs, then we may be able to help you pick something reasonable. The knives you showed us fell into the category of...well... not-so-useful-showoff-crap. Do you really need a short fighting dagger? You plan to stab someone? Read Beppo's post again.

[Catch22]

double posting....

[ABNINF]

I like my S&W SWAT folder. I've beaten the crap out of it for 6 years now. It has a lifetime warranty, and anything that breaks, S&W will send you the parts to fix it with. I carry that, and my Cold Steel Recon Tanto over here.

[RGRBOX]

Don't waste your money on all of these high speed fighting knives... the fact is, all knives can be used to kill, but only a good few can be used to work with... I suggest getting a good hunting knive without serrations... no special tanto blades either.. only good for penitration.. I just got myself a Fallkniven, and it kicks ass... a good knife will do everything you need it to... I've even split logs with mine.. made a bow drill set to make fires with friction, and carved out spoons etc... can skin any animal, and can still cut you up... the second important thing to know about a good knife is knowing how to sharpen one... if you can't sharpen a knife that will shave your beard or arm hair, then it's usless... a knife needs to be sharpen at all times... Roselli Oy, from Finnland makes some very good knives, the same as the Frost knife from above with the red handle.. I've used this knife also and although it's not on the top line of knives... it's better then any of the top line combat knives... and it cost nothing...

[Killtokk]

Hi Man..

If you want to buy a very good quality/price boot combat knife, the best option (for me) it's the "Botero" of Aitor Company. (from Spain)

it's a strong boot knife, with excellent qualitys, used for most of Spec Ops units members here in Spain, it's a classic of Boot's knifes here.

you can find it in normal colors, Camo/black and all black finish.

[RGRBOX]

I don't mean to disrespect you in anyway... but never buy a knife made in Spain... They are some of the worst quality knives I've ever seen.. I know this because i sell knives and know a little about them...

[Killtokk]

Don't worry,
I haven't any part of Aitor Comapany xDD , but, I dont think like you about Spanish knives, Aitor is a recognized company world-wide, with quality products, selling world-wide his products, I have any from them and I have Camillus, Ka-bar, Marto, and many more knives and bayonets (I collet some) and I can tell you the quality of any Aitor from any other company, doesn't exist and It's my personal opinion, of course, anybody can think or have any choices for one company or knife model,

it's obiusly I like Aitor jejeje

Thanks

[TacoDelRio]

Mikebox,

I've been trying to get a Frost/Fallkniven over here in the states for awhile now. I can't find any. The only "Frost" knives we have here are from a company of that name, that makes the absolute ****tiest knives ever to be put upon this Earth, and they are made in China, not Scandanavia.

Know of any retailers over here?

[RGRBOX]

Mikebox,

I've been trying to get a Frost/Fallkniven over here in the states for awhile now. I can't find any. The only "Frost" knives we have here are from a company of that name, that makes the absolute ****tiest knives ever to be put upon this Earth, and they are made in China, not Scandanavia.

Know of any retailers over here?

I'll see what I can find out for you...

[RGRBOX]

I remember for the Fallkniven.

Go to www.moteng.com

For the Frost knives, I'm still looking for myself. I got mine with a Ray Mears Woodlure, Bushcraft Course I went on, and they sell them for too much on their website... I'f I find out a retailor/distributor I'll let you know.

[Baboonass]

For what it's worth, I've played with a lot of differnt blades. Some expensive, some cheap.

The best all arond blade? The Marine K-Bar, (I actually had the U.S. Navy Issue K-Bar, fairly rare now).

It's cheap, easy to maintain, keeps a good edge, multi-use, etc..

I also like the Cold Steal Tanto, but it's not near as versitile.



The term "combat knife" is kinda funny considering you'll be useing it to cut line and open crap with it most of the time.

[Para]

Now are you going to let a person get that close that you would need to use a knife. If run run out of ammo you have your bayonet, and if that brakes you have your trenching tool and that will sort out any one with a knife, not unless you need it to peel an apple.

[RGRBOX]

For what it's worth, I've played with a lot of differnt blades. Some expensive, some cheap.

The best all arond blade? The Marine K-Bar, (I actually had the U.S. Navy Issue K-Bar, fairly rare now).

It's cheap, easy to maintain, keeps a good edge, multi-use, etc..

I also like the Cold Steal Tanto, but it's not near as versitile.



The term "combat knife" is kinda funny considering you'll be useing it to cut line and open crap with it most of the time.

my point exactly...

[Beppo]

Why are so many people against serrations? I find them useful for cutting paracord and ripping through plastic wrapping...are they not a good choice for removing human limbs?

[TacoDelRio]

Why are so many people against serrations? I find them useful for cutting paracord and ripping through plastic wrapping...are they not a good choice for removing human limbs?

I like serrations for that, but I have a small Spyderco Harpy that I carry which is fully serrated.

Serrated blades are hard to sharpen in the field, unless you carry somehting like a Spyderco Sharpmaker with ya or something. Just my personal choices.

MIKEBOX: I've dealt with Moteng, good group, but those Fallkniven's are expensive as hell! I like the mine clearance one, real nice. Thanks for the link.

[RGRBOX]

Serrations are great to have, but unless you know how to sharpen them and have the tools on you to do so, they are a limited tool. Serrations are great for all fiberous materials, from beef to rope, but like I said you have to keep them sharpen. It's very difficult to work with a knife that has serrations, say using to cut wood, etc... And if you have a good sharp plain edge knife, then you don't need a serrated knife.

MrSkorotsnoy: Yes, I know the problem with the price of the Fallkniven, but they are good, and worth the money. Like I said there are other directions, like Frost, Roselli Oy, etc.... Most of the Finnish knives are good.

[Jippo]

MrSkorotsnoy: Yes, I know the problem with the price of the Fallkniven, but they are good, and worth the money. Like I said there are other directions, like Frost, Roselli Oy, etc.... Most of the Finnish knives are good.

What is common with Swedish and Finnish knives is the quality of work, and shape of the blade. It is especially well suited for working with wood, but not limited to that. Blade shape originates from ancient knife type that evolved for multitude of tasks including building shelters, working with game, etc...

For modern day soldier this type of blade is useful for preparing positions, shelters, camouflage and of course for fighting if needed. Actually the "puukko", as it is called in Finland, gained a reputation during WW2 as fighting knife on both sides of the frontier.

Here is my JP Peltonen Ranger Knife (along with some Austrian steel), which in my opinion carries the tradition perfectly, but still uses modern materials. Carbon steel blade with teflon type coating to prevent corrosion, sticky rubber grip, and excellent sheath. Sheath has roller locking system that will hold the knife in place in all conditions, and it can be carried on the belt or e.g. upside down on weak shoulder harness. Knife is good, but still I think the sheath is the best part. :)






-jippo

Ps. more info:

Peltonen knife is about €70 locally, Fjällknivens €95-160.

http://www.finnrappel.fi/puukko.htm

[ABNINF]

I also have a German-made Puma Whitehunter that my dad carried in Vietnam, but I didn't want to bring it over here and have something happen to it, sentimental value and all.

Just like this, but older:

http://cutlerscove.com/hunting-knives/puma-white-hunter.htm

[Bobcharge]

Hello,

I am looking for a good quality, relatively heavy fixed bladed knife I can use for general purpose camping activities. £40 would be the limit of my price range.

Are there any members here from the UK that could point me in the direction of good knives to look at.

Thanks,

Bob

[oldsoak]

Can I ask what you might use it for ? Reason why I ask is that "general purpose" to me means any cutting that I would not use a tin opener, axe or machete for - ie cutting string or fabric, light whittling, preparing meat and vegetables. It might not have the same definition for you.

[ed316]

Buy a Khukri "all purpose"

[JoaMei]

The Glock Field knife, its really cheap and rusts sometimes but is sturdy and worth its price.

[Seraphim]

The Glock Field knife, its really cheap and rusts sometimes but is sturdy and worth its price.



Does it also blow up in your hands? p-)

[Durandal]

Just got one of these for my birthday from a shooting buddy:



Becker BK7 Tactical Utility Fixed Blade

3/8" thick steel at the tang.

Runs around 40 to 60.00 US.

[AFJROTC55]

columbia river makes some really good knives, affordable, simple, effective, efficient,
www.crkt.com

im getting one myself, happy hunting.

1*
oh, btw, not to offend anyone, but im kind of curious as to what is a so called "wanker", what does that mean. i hear it means something bad.

[Durandal]

columbia river makes some really good knives, affordable, simple, effective, efficient...

I picked up one of these two years ago.

I forget what it was called originally, now its part of the "M16" family...

I have to say, that it kept its edge for a pretty long time (and its my work knife...I farm, so you know it gets used A LOT). The thumb assist works great. If you know how to put a good edge on a blade, this one will keep it for quite a while. The fiberglass handle is a bit work but it still suits its purpose.

[JoaMei]

Does it also blow up in your hands? p-)

Glocks dont blow up more often then other guns. But they are from Austria so its ok you said that. p-)

[iacco]

In UK you can find very good military/survival/general purpose knives/machetes.
A good choice is a Martindale knife/machete.
In general I prefer the classic golok but if you want a (sturdy) knife I suggest the Paratrooper.





Both "tools" can be easily customized to be "military ready" but the base is good.
another old british good knife for military and general purpose is the MOD Survival knife



The best recent British survival knife (half a way between a knife and machete) is the new dartmoor survival knife.



hope this help you

bye




Hello,

I am looking for a good quality, relatively heavy fixed bladed knife I can use for general purpose camping activities. £40 would be the limit of my price range.

Are there any members here from the UK that could point me in the direction of good knives to look at.

Thanks,

Bob

[Chops]

oh, btw, not to offend anyone, but im kind of curious as to what is a so called "wanker", what does that mean. i hear it means something bad.

Ask Two Sheds or CJ- both highly trained wankers... something to do with Liz Hurley and pies...?

:-)

C

[scrybe]

CJ has a black belt in wanking.

[Bobcharge]

Can I ask what you might use it for ? Reason why I ask is that "general purpose" to me means any cutting that I would not use a tin opener, axe or machete for - ie cutting string or fabric, light whittling, preparing meat and vegetables. It might not have the same definition for you.

Yes, that's exactly it. I would use it for food preparation, light chopping and cutting, and as a tool that would be handy to have if I needed it.

Iacco, could you point me in the right direction of the MOD survival knife. Websites etc?

Thanks everyone for your replies, and a wanker is a derogatory term for someone who masturbates.

Regards,

Bob

[Chops]

Bob

All kidding aside I'd go with a decent- serrated if needed- folder (I swear by Gerbers others swear at them...). Much easier to carry and just as versatile as many larger general duties knives. Plus in UK you certainly don't want to be tooling around with a 'combat' knife- a nifty little folder is much easier to explain to the woodentops...

cheers, C

[Steve Andrews]

Bob,
I'd avoid the MOD knife. There are much better knives out there.

I find a fixed bladed knife and a folding saw a good combination.

You could get a Mora knife and a Bahco/Sandvik Laplander saw for £40.

There are some very helpful UK knife guys here...
http://www.britishblades.com/forums/

[Bobcharge]

Bob

All kidding aside I'd go with a decent- serrated if needed- folder (I swear by Gerbers others swear at them...). Much easier to carry and just as versatile as many larger general duties knives. Plus in UK you certainly don't want to be tooling around with a 'combat' knife- a nifty little folder is much easier to explain to the woodentops...

cheers, C

I do agree with you, the thought of walking across the downs with one of the kukhris on my belt is a little too Rambo for me. I have a folder, one of the Smith and Wesson series I picked up cheap. I use it alot when I do farm work but it doesn't hold it's blade as much as I would like and would struggle with cutting anything tougher than corregated plastic.

I will certainly look at Gerber knifes, EVERYBODY seems to recommend them.

Hi Steve, what is the problem with those MOD knives? Thanks for the link, I will look at the Mora knife!

Regards,

Bob

[Chops]

Mate I've only patronised two blade makers for 20 odd (very odd- boom boom!) years- Gerber and Leatherman. Never had an ish with products by either. I've put Gerbers through their paces on everything from webbing and seat belts to car tires and they continue to impress.

cheers

C

(also couldnt afford CRKs or Spydercos when I was younger and more vigerous but you see my point) :-)

[Bobcharge]

Do you know a decent online store stocking Gerber knives, Chops?

Thanks,

Bob

[Steve Andrews]

If they sell the knife you're after get it from http://www.NewGrahamknives.com . They do very cheap shipping to the UK via USPS Global Priority.

In answer to you're question about the MOD: it is a very heavy knife, fairly uncomfortable to use and comes with a very steep edge.

They may be a little more expensive than Gerbers, but consider Fallkniven (the F1 is great) and Benchmade fixed blades (Outbounder or Rant)

You can see these knives here:
http://www.heinnie.com/cgi-bin/heinnie_store/web_store.cgi?page=FRATOTAB/knives.htm&cart_id=

[iacco]

Yes, that's exactly it. I would use it for food preparation, light chopping and cutting, and as a tool that would be handy to have if I needed it.

Iacco, could you point me in the right direction of the MOD survival knife. Websites etc?

Thanks everyone for your replies, and a wanker is a derogatory term for someone who masturbates.

Regards,

Bob


Hi Bob
(unfortunately) I live in Italy and I couldn't find that knife in any shops, try to search military surplus store, google or ebay to find it.
I only saw it because a friend of mine have been given by a british friend.
That friend said that is quite common to find in a military surplus store.

Moreover this friend gave him a fantastic document that you can find here:

http://www.badongo.com/file.php?file=modify__2005-12-16_modify.pdf

that explain how to create a multipurpose knife starting from the MOD survival knife.
In general, it is not a very bulk knife though is extremely robust and cheap (if you can find it).
It is quite cheap and considering your need in terms of room of your pockets/sheats I think that is good for you.

bye

[shadower]

Look for something from Aitor,Spanish steel is the BEST!!!

[Steve Andrews]

Look for something from Aitor,Spanish steel is the BEST!!!


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

[operaattori]

http://www.teraasekeskus.com/ <----there is some quality knifes.

[Steve Andrews]

http://www.teraasekeskus.com/ <----there is some quality knifes.

Some good ones,the Benchmades, Spydercos and Fallknivens - but some very **** ones - United Cutlery and Hibben!

[Bobcharge]

Thanks alot everybody.

Bob

[oldsoak]

No worries - be aware of the laws regarding carrying a knife btw. You can get a lovely little knife made by Frosts for about a tenner or thereabouts - try this link

http://www.attacc.com/acatalog/FROSTS_OF_MORA.html

it will do all the light work I was talking about and if it goes walkies its only a tenner. Good steel with a profile thats easy to sharpen and it will keep a good edge. Ray Mears flogs a similar kinfe for his courses.

[East Scout]

My top pick is the Kabar Marine Corps version..Has a polymer coated blade, rubber handle and the hammer end. Ive used mine for years. Wore the sheath out and had to get a new one. It was made of leather, dont ask me why...If you can get one, do it. You'll be leaving it to your grand kids.

Glock Kampf-Messer is a good blade as well. Holds a good edge and is made like a Russian tank..I have one lashed on my Ruck for back up.

[Bulabash]

Ive allways been partial to Kershaw knives, very good stuff.

[Sneeker]

I bought a Ontario knife company Airforce servival knife. Alot like a Kbar 5 in blade coted leather handel and sheeth. Comes with shapening stone in the sheeth too. Has lash down points on the hand gard. Really good piece of kit. Check their website out they have other really good blades.
http://www.ontarioknife.com/catalog.html

[TacoDelRio]

My personal, knife-salesman-collector-user opinion: http://spyderco.com/

As for fixed blades, the US made Ka Bar's are a good deal.

[kamarian]

have a look at this website:

http://www.jenseneliteblades.com

I have had a Cold Steel SRK for around 10years now. Seems to be a good field knofe, though a little big.

[Killtokk]

have a look at this website:

http://www.jenseneliteblades.com


Great link Kamarian.
Thanks.

I'll try to find how to buy some of them...

[Steve Andrews]

My personal, knife-salesman-collector-user opinion: http://spyderco.com/



Not Benchmade?

[TacoDelRio]

Not Benchmade?

Nope. I like Benchmade too, but if I said that, I'd get comments about how expensive they are, or that they're too pretty to actually use.

Overall, Spyderco is the company I respect the very most when it comes to knives. They offer lots of different steels for their blades, lots of options for carry, scales, everything. It's something I've sold alot of, while still remaining honest to the buyer. In other words, it's a good product that I can tell them stories about what I've done to mine, and they pick one right up..... at a very nice price, usually less than $100 bucks.

Just my opinion. I could name a thousand brands I like or own, but Spyderco gets the thumbs way the f*ck up.

[JoaMei]

have a look at this website:

http://www.jenseneliteblades.com

I have had a Cold Steel SRK for around 10years now. Seems to be a good field knofe, though a little big.#

They seem to have great stuff, I think I will order my next knife there.

[Irish]

LETHERMANx100 FOR ME:)

[American Patriot]

Gerber. Leatherman is cheaper but they can't have my money since Mr.Leatherman supported Kerry in the last presidential election. :D

[Irish]

LETHERMANx1000000!!!!!!!!!!!

[KaceCoyote]

My Gerber recoil has been on my hip for...what 3-4 years now? No appreciable wear, and the quick deployment of the pliars is a plus. There is, admitted also a cool factor involved there.

Though I love my Gerber multi-tool, my SOG flash II has suitably impressed me. I believe my next multi-tool will probably be from SOG aswell.

[khukuri]

Buy a Khukri "all purpose"



I second that

[Apogee]

I'm on my 2nd Gerber. Not from breaking it, but from being a dumb ass and loosing it. Great tool. I've always prefered the grip on a gerber to that of a leatherman.

[TacoDelRio]

I might get a Swiss one if I lose or break my Leatherman Super Mega Tool 5 billion XT plus. They appear to be the rat's ass in fine tools.