Simon Wiesenthal 1908-2005

[shadower]

The great man died today!

http://www.wiesenthal.com/site/pp.asp?c=fwLYKnN8LzH&b=242023

Simon Wiesenthal: "The Conscience of the Holocaust, Dies in Vienna" at 96

Simon Wiesenthal, the famous Nazi Hunter has died in Vienna at the age of 96, the Simon Wiesenthal Center announced today (September 20th).

"Simon Wiesenthal was the conscience of the Holocaust," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, dean and founder of the International Human Rights NGO named in Mr. Wiesenthal’s honor, adding, "When the Holocaust ended in 1945 and the whole world went home to forget, he alone remained behind to remember. He did not forget. He became the permanent representative of the victims, determined to bring the perpetrators of the history’s greatest crime to justice. There was no press conference and no president or Prime Minister or world leader announced his appointment. He just took the job. It was a job no one else wanted.

[PELASGOS]

The great man died today!

http://www.wiesenthal.com/site/pp.asp?c=fwLYKnN8LzH&b=242023

Simon Wiesenthal: "The Conscience of the Holocaust, Dies in Vienna" at 96

Simon Wiesenthal, the famous Nazi Hunter has died in Vienna at the age of 96, the Simon Wiesenthal Center announced today (September 20th).

"Simon Wiesenthal was the conscience of the Holocaust," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, dean and founder of the International Human Rights NGO named in Mr. Wiesenthal’s honor, adding, "When the Holocaust ended in 1945 and the whole world went home to forget, he alone remained behind to remember. He did not forget. He became the permanent representative of the victims, determined to bring the perpetrators of the history’s greatest crime to justice. There was no press conference and no president or Prime Minister or world leader announced his appointment. He just took the job. It was a job no one else wanted.


Not all Jews consider him great.

Nazi Agent?

Did Wiesenthal voluntarily work for his wartime oppressors? That's the accusation leveled by Austrian Chancellor Bruno Kreisky, himself of Jewish ancestry and leader for many years of his country's Socialist Party. During an interview with foreign journalists in 1975, Kreisky charged Wiesenthal with using "Mafia methods," rejected his pretense of "moral authority," and suggested that he was an agent for the German authorities. Some of his more pertinent remarks, which appeared in Austria's leading news magazine Profil, include: [14]

[Luno]

Shadower sorry mate that is a repost
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=60702&highlight=

[shadower]

I figured that it was repost!
Thanx!

He had to use whatever methods to get them!That's why he got that many.If he was just doing what is moral and aproved by certain people he would probably get much less of them.

[PELASGOS]

I think that the hunting for war criminals must be a state job like the one

Mossad has for ex Nazis . The Greek secret service when was researching

for Greek and Greek Cypriot POWs from the Turkish invasion in 1974

made contact with this department because has a data base of war

criminals. Simon Wiesental made it a full time job greatly involved in

politics which is wrong.

[Bryson C]

Yep RMM, but it should be in this section not Off-topic/humour like the other thread is.

[dnme]

I think that the hunting for war criminals must be a state job like the one

Mossad has for ex Nazis . The Greek secret service when was researching

for Greek and Greek Cypriot POWs from the Turkish invasion in 1974

made contact with this department because has a data base of war

criminals. Simon Wiesental made it a full time job greatly involved in

politics which is wrong.


i dont get u what politics has to do with it he hunted the ppl the world couldnt find and he find more then a 1000 major war scum criminals and broght them to court he was a great man and i hate ppl that allways try to darken things up.

[PELASGOS]

I think that the hunting for war criminals must be a state job like the one

Mossad has for ex Nazis . The Greek secret service when was researching

for Greek and Greek Cypriot POWs from the Turkish invasion in 1974

made contact with this department because has a data base of war

criminals. Simon Wiesental made it a full time job greatly involved in

politics which is wrong.


i dont get u what politics has to do with it he hunted the ppl the world couldnt find and he find more then a 1000 major war scum criminals and broght them to court he was a great man and i hate ppl that allways try to darken things up.



Reckless Charges in Walus Case
One of Wiesenthal's most spectacular cases involved a Polish-born Chicago man named Frank Walus. In a letter dated December 10, 1974, he charged that Walus "delivered Jews to the Gestapo" in Czestochowa and Kielce in Poland during the war. This letter prompted a US government investigation and legal action. [38] The Washington Post dealt with the case in a 1981 article entitled "The Nazi Who Never Was: How a witch hunt by judge, press and investigators branded an innocent man a war criminal." The lengthy piece, which was copyrighted by the American Bar Association, reported: [39]

In January 1977, the United States government accused a Chicagoan named Frank Walus of having committed atrocities in Poland during World War II.

In the following years, this retired factory worker went into debt in order to raise more than $60,000 to defend himself. He sat in a courtroom while eleven Jewish survivors of the Nazi occupation of Poland testified that they saw him murder children, an old woman, a young woman, a hunchback and others ...

Overwhelming evidence shows that Walus was not a Nazi War criminal, that he was not even in Poland during World War II.



'Fabrications' About Eichmann
In more than 40 years of "Nazi hunting," Wiesenthal's role in locating and capturing Adolf Eichmann is often considered his greatest achievement. [32] (Eichmann headed the wartime SS Jewish affairs department. He was kidnapped by Israeli agents in Argentina in May 1960 and hanged in Jerusalem after a trial that received worldwide media attention.)

But Isser Harel, the Israeli official who headed the team that seized Eichmann, has declared unequivocally that Wiesenthal had "absolutely nothing" to do with the capture. (Harel is a former head of both the Mossad and Shin Bet, Israel's foreign and domestic security agencies.) [33]

Wiesenthal not only "had no role whatsoever" in the apprehension, said Harel, but in fact he endangered the entire Eichmann operation. In a 278-page manuscript, Harel carefully refuted every claim by Wiesenthal about his supposed role in identifying and capturing Eichmann. Claims by Wiesenthal and his many friends about his supposedly crucial role in capturing the former SS officer, said Harel, have no foundation in fact. Many specific assertions and incidents described in two books by Wiesenthal, said the Israeli official, are "complete fabrications." [34]

"Wiesenthal's reports and statements at that period prove beyond any doubt that he had no notion of Eichmann's whereabouts," said Harel. [35] (For example, just before Eichmann's capture in Argentina, Wiesenthal was placing him in Japan and Saudi Arabia.) [36]

Characterizing Wiesenthal as a rank opportunist, Harel summed up: "All the information supplied by Wiesenthal before and in anticipation of the [Eichmann] operation was utterly worthless, and sometimes even misleading and of negative value." [37]

Source:

S. Birnbaum, "Wiesenthal's Claim on Eichmann Disputed by Former Mossad Head," Jewish Telegraphic Agency Daily News Bulletin (New York), April 4, 1989. (Dispatch dated April 3


Isser Harel arrested Eichman ,read his book << The Garibaldi street>>.

[PELASGOS]

I think that the hunting for war criminals must be a state job like the one

Mossad has for ex Nazis . The Greek secret service when was researching

for Greek and Greek Cypriot POWs from the Turkish invasion in 1974

made contact with this department because has a data base of war

criminals. Simon Wiesental made it a full time job greatly involved in

politics which is wrong.


i dont get u what politics has to do with it he hunted the ppl the world couldnt find and he find more then a 1000 major war scum criminals and broght them to court he was a great man and i hate ppl that allways try to darken things up.



Reckless Charges in Walus Case
One of Wiesenthal's most spectacular cases involved a Polish-born Chicago man named Frank Walus. In a letter dated December 10, 1974, he charged that Walus "delivered Jews to the Gestapo" in Czestochowa and Kielce in Poland during the war. This letter prompted a US government investigation and legal action. [38] The Washington Post dealt with the case in a 1981 article entitled "The Nazi Who Never Was: How a witch hunt by judge, press and investigators branded an innocent man a war criminal." The lengthy piece, which was copyrighted by the American Bar Association, reported: [39]

In January 1977, the United States government accused a Chicagoan named Frank Walus of having committed atrocities in Poland during World War II.

In the following years, this retired factory worker went into debt in order to raise more than $60,000 to defend himself. He sat in a courtroom while eleven Jewish survivors of the Nazi occupation of Poland testified that they saw him murder children, an old woman, a young woman, a hunchback and others ...

Overwhelming evidence shows that Walus was not a Nazi War criminal, that he was not even in Poland during World War II.



'Fabrications' About Eichmann
In more than 40 years of "Nazi hunting," Wiesenthal's role in locating and capturing Adolf Eichmann is often considered his greatest achievement. [32] (Eichmann headed the wartime SS Jewish affairs department. He was kidnapped by Israeli agents in Argentina in May 1960 and hanged in Jerusalem after a trial that received worldwide media attention.)

But Isser Harel, the Israeli official who headed the team that seized Eichmann, has declared unequivocally that Wiesenthal had "absolutely nothing" to do with the capture. (Harel is a former head of both the Mossad and Shin Bet, Israel's foreign and domestic security agencies.) [33]

Wiesenthal not only "had no role whatsoever" in the apprehension, said Harel, but in fact he endangered the entire Eichmann operation. In a 278-page manuscript, Harel carefully refuted every claim by Wiesenthal about his supposed role in identifying and capturing Eichmann. Claims by Wiesenthal and his many friends about his supposedly crucial role in capturing the former SS officer, said Harel, have no foundation in fact. Many specific assertions and incidents described in two books by Wiesenthal, said the Israeli official, are "complete fabrications." [34]

"Wiesenthal's reports and statements at that period prove beyond any doubt that he had no notion of Eichmann's whereabouts," said Harel. [35] (For example, just before Eichmann's capture in Argentina, Wiesenthal was placing him in Japan and Saudi Arabia.) [36]

Characterizing Wiesenthal as a rank opportunist, Harel summed up: "All the information supplied by Wiesenthal before and in anticipation of the [Eichmann] operation was utterly worthless, and sometimes even misleading and of negative value." [37]

Source:

S. Birnbaum, "Wiesenthal's Claim on Eichmann Disputed by Former Mossad Head," Jewish Telegraphic Agency Daily News Bulletin (New York), April 4, 1989. (Dispatch dated April 3


Isser Harel arrested Eichman ,read his book << The house on Garibaldi

street>>.

[dnme]

I think that the hunting for war criminals must be a state job like the one

Mossad has for ex Nazis . The Greek secret service when was researching

for Greek and Greek Cypriot POWs from the Turkish invasion in 1974

made contact with this department because has a data base of war

criminals. Simon Wiesental made it a full time job greatly involved in

politics which is wrong.


i dont get u what politics has to do with it he hunted the ppl the world couldnt find and he find more then a 1000 major war scum criminals and broght them to court he was a great man and i hate ppl that allways try to darken things up.



Reckless Charges in Walus Case
One of Wiesenthal's most spectacular cases involved a Polish-born Chicago man named Frank Walus. In a letter dated December 10, 1974, he charged that Walus "delivered Jews to the Gestapo" in Czestochowa and Kielce in Poland during the war. This letter prompted a US government investigation and legal action. [38] The Washington Post dealt with the case in a 1981 article entitled "The Nazi Who Never Was: How a witch hunt by judge, press and investigators branded an innocent man a war criminal." The lengthy piece, which was copyrighted by the American Bar Association, reported: [39]

In January 1977, the United States government accused a Chicagoan named Frank Walus of having committed atrocities in Poland during World War II.

In the following years, this retired factory worker went into debt in order to raise more than $60,000 to defend himself. He sat in a courtroom while eleven Jewish survivors of the Nazi occupation of Poland testified that they saw him murder children, an old woman, a young woman, a hunchback and others ...

Overwhelming evidence shows that Walus was not a Nazi War criminal, that he was not even in Poland during World War II.



'Fabrications' About Eichmann
In more than 40 years of "Nazi hunting," Wiesenthal's role in locating and capturing Adolf Eichmann is often considered his greatest achievement. [32] (Eichmann headed the wartime SS Jewish affairs department. He was kidnapped by Israeli agents in Argentina in May 1960 and hanged in Jerusalem after a trial that received worldwide media attention.)

But Isser Harel, the Israeli official who headed the team that seized Eichmann, has declared unequivocally that Wiesenthal had "absolutely nothing" to do with the capture. (Harel is a former head of both the Mossad and Shin Bet, Israel's foreign and domestic security agencies.) [33]

Wiesenthal not only "had no role whatsoever" in the apprehension, said Harel, but in fact he endangered the entire Eichmann operation. In a 278-page manuscript, Harel carefully refuted every claim by Wiesenthal about his supposed role in identifying and capturing Eichmann. Claims by Wiesenthal and his many friends about his supposedly crucial role in capturing the former SS officer, said Harel, have no foundation in fact. Many specific assertions and incidents described in two books by Wiesenthal, said the Israeli official, are "complete fabrications." [34]

"Wiesenthal's reports and statements at that period prove beyond any doubt that he had no notion of Eichmann's whereabouts," said Harel. [35] (For example, just before Eichmann's capture in Argentina, Wiesenthal was placing him in Japan and Saudi Arabia.) [36]

Characterizing Wiesenthal as a rank opportunist, Harel summed up: "All the information supplied by Wiesenthal before and in anticipation of the [Eichmann] operation was utterly worthless, and sometimes even misleading and of negative value." [37]

Source:

S. Birnbaum, "Wiesenthal's Claim on Eichmann Disputed by Former Mossad Head," Jewish Telegraphic Agency Daily News Bulletin (New York), April 4, 1989. (Dispatch dated April 3


Isser Harel arrested Eichman ,read his book << The house on Garibaldi

street>>.


in the 1st case he had a good argue that 12 ppl recognized him and i dont know the case and i dont know whats those overwelming texts and i dont know whats wrong with what he did and how does it have to do with politics.

the 2nd case on eichmann i dont realy know what he had to do with that but u cant conclude everything on 1 guy that rattle on press.
and again i dont c whats wrong with him.

he was a great man for mankind and he showed that ppl cant escape from justice after such atrocities and were all lucky for what he did for all mankind.

[PELASGOS]

in the 1st case he had a good argue that 12 ppl recognized him and i dont know the case and i dont know whats those overwelming texts and i dont know whats wrong with what he did and how does it have to do with politics.

the 2nd case on eichmann i dont realy know what he had to do with that but u cant conclude everything on 1 guy that rattle on press.
and again i dont c whats wrong with him.




You remind me of Socrates :" I know one thing , that i don't know

anything".

[dnme]

in the 1st case he had a good argue that 12 ppl recognized him and i dont know the case and i dont know whats those overwelming texts and i dont know whats wrong with what he did and how does it have to do with politics.

the 2nd case on eichmann i dont realy know what he had to do with that but u cant conclude everything on 1 guy that rattle on press.
and again i dont c whats wrong with him.




You remind me of Socrates :" I know one thing , that i don't know

anything".

ok cant u explain me what he did wrong for bringing this man to court after 12 ppl recognized him.
and plz tell me what were those texts.

and about eichmann so the fact that he didnt help capturing him says hes a bad person with political acts?

and again there r over a 1000 ppl he collected evidenses and put in courts and almost all of them were convicted dont u think he donated to the world in those acts?

[Cpt. Spaulding]

RIP

[Jacques Yves 29]

I dont know why i should cry for his death.

[oldsoak]

I take my hat off to him and I wish him rest and reward in the world to come. A pity he was not even more successful in tracking down those who brought a nightmare upon Europe - think of all the human potential that was destroyed and the countries brought to ruin thanks to the Nazis. Think of Germany with its people, its culture, its science, made into a demon and its Jewish community slaughtered thanks to the Nazis - not to mention the suffering in occupied Europe. We need more men like him to pursue those who think themselves unaccountable for genocides.

[Zarathustra]

I dont know why i should cry for his death.

:cantbeli:

[UoUo]

RIP

Great man.

[Loco]

Anyone who survived a nazi concentration camp probably obeyed more than two times SS officers orders, those prisioners full of pride and honour were all killed at the beginning. I won´t be the one who says a bad word about any survivor, they just didn´t choose being sent from home to the hell, and I don´t know what were the circumstances of Wiesenthal 60 years ago. It´s obvious that Simon Wiesenthal did a great work persecuting criminals. Other sides of Wisenthal I don´t like too much, he was an isreali nationalist although he lived and worked in Austria, he saw the world through a one colour glass, but even so he had bitter critical points of view about those "east coast american neocons jews that badmouth about Europe", it´s seems that the cultivated architect raised in the austro-hungarian empire ccouldn´t stand up simplicism and plain lies.
About Wiesenthal, Kreisky and the austrians, I just can´t find how they managed to hide to the world that Kurt Waldheim was a war criminal, they were happy with Waldheim in such a high role, it was a good source of influence for Austria having him in New York "over" all of us. But it was a shame for austrians, included both Wiesenthal and Kreisky, that austrians discovered that Waldheim was a dirty criminal 15 years after, they could be more hurry.

[farmgirl]

I dont know why i should cry for his death.


Tread lightly... you're not starting off on a very good note.