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USMarine3521

09-24-2005, 01:51 AM

Im deploying to Iraq in a couple months and looking to get some gear early. I'd like to hear what kind of things I will definately will need and some things I may need but not so important etc...because I know this stuff isn't cheap.

thanks.

I'm a motor T guy but will be doing patrols, security, 240g duty etc.

ramy

09-24-2005, 02:01 AM

USMarine3521

09-24-2005, 02:15 AM

got a good pair of goggles ?

www.ess.com

Are you going to be using the M240G exclusively ? If you are going to be using an M16 you might like the Eotech 552 for fast target acquisition..

Are you pulling convoy security ?

A buddy of mine based out of Camp Pendleton is pulling Convoy Security for 1FFSG ?
First Service Battalion..

No, I'll be using the 240g mounted on the humvee so I will be using both and about the eotech....I'm pretty sure I'll be taking the m16a2 and yeah I'll will be doing convoy security.

are you talking about the 1 FSSG? (force service support group) i know a buddy in their too but he's already in iraq.

http://www.essgoggles.com/Profile-Series_1_detail.html

these look pretty good to me :D

ramy

09-24-2005, 02:23 AM

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09-24-2005, 02:54 AM

I'm not military, but heres my two cents for what they are worth.

-Electrical tape (lots). Can be used for many things.
-Knee/elbow pads. If you dont have a set already, it would probably be a good idea to get a spare set also.
- Vest, your going to be in a vehicle alot. You might want to consider a chest rig/plate carrier so everythings accessible while sitting down.
-A good meduim sized ruck to be used as a "go" bag in case things get bad.
-Batteries...batteries...batteries and more batteries. Your fancy gadgets like gps and radios and your eotech 552 are useless without them. And they could be a hard come by, or you could need them and not have any availible at the time.
-Hydration Unit. I assume you have an issued one, but you can always buy a couple spare bladders and cleaning kits for them.
-GPS system. You can buy sets with built in radios depending on how much you want to spend.
-Dump pouch. It can come in handy for other uses as well. Maxpedition pouches are great, and cheap.

Thats all I can think of, hope it helps.

molsen

09-24-2005, 03:30 AM

Talk to your NCOs and fellow Marines who have already deployed and ask them what you should and should not bring. Nowadays you can get just about any of the small, little things you need over there. Do NOT rely on what the people on this board have to say or recommend who have never deployed in their lives. Ask Marines who have already been there (or even better if you can, are CURRENTLY over there) and you should be set.

FallenAngel

09-24-2005, 06:21 AM

don't forget the ****o mags and video games :D

FiveOneFive

09-24-2005, 06:36 AM

I know my post somewhat digresses from what's being asked but.. Are you not even issued with a pair of protective goggles?

Beppo

09-24-2005, 08:30 AM

There are enough PXs (and a few MCXs) and local vendors/bazaars already over there for you to get almost everything you'll need -- heck, the big PX in Baghdad sells large-screen TVs and lawn furniture for chrissakes. And when that doesn't work there's online shopping; if the seller claims they won't ship to APO/FPO addresses just put "NY" as the state and it'll arrive. About the only thing you won't *openly* be able to purchase in the Middle East is **** and alcohol, but that's what personal baggage and care packages are for.

PS: If you're a DEP, as your name suggests, why even worry about it at this point? Or is that just a really old user name?

SuperShot5000

09-24-2005, 11:05 AM

http://www.actiongear.com/cgi-bin/tame.exe/agcatalog/index.tam
http://www.optactical.com/
http://www.bdstacticalgear.com/
http://www.uscav.com/main.aspx?tabID=1
http://www.blackhawk.com/index.asp?
http://www.eagleindustries.com/mainprod.asp?scv=0
http://www.davesarmysurplus.com/
http://www.botac.com/

Bless you, soldier. Keep safe, and Godspeed.

Deuterium

09-24-2005, 11:39 AM

Maintaining sanity

1. Laptop
2. gaming console with a few games. You'll be able to get cheap bootleg stuff in country.
3. MP3 player. You'll be able to get cheap music in country as well.
4. WorldSpace sat radio. Hard to find in the states but at least you'll get western radio staions. Besides AFN, I think only Baghdad has a western radio station.
5. civilian clothes. Don't listen to supervisors. Bring some, even a bathing suit. You'll be surprised at the number of swimming pools in Iraq.
6. Happy sock and condoms, Marine/Army chicks are easy.
7. DSN to the states. Find out the nearest base to your love ones. Most of the time you can get hook-flashed from the local operator to their phones and get the call for free.

Go-Gear.

1. GOOD Goggles.
2. GOOD gloves. Hot weather, Cold weather, and monkey handling.
3. Balaclava. I can't stress this enough if you are going to be a gunner. It gets frickin COLD in Iraq. It rains and snows as well. You will dread winter patrols being the gunner, it's also the rainy season. Neck gaitor or Haji scarf as well.
4. If your 1114 has a VIC-III intercom system get a tanker helmet, the newer kind with the noise cancelling Bose headsets, and ballistic cover.
5. Redi-Mag or C-Mag for your M-16. You will be using your M-16 a lot in the turret. Most of the time it is quicker to transition to the Rifle than to turn the turret in heavy traffic.
6. Get a good holster for your pistol, insist on being issued a pistol.
7. Get some smoke, Navy Crashes (FlashBangs), 6 or 9 Bangers, or even the regular DOD metal FlashBangs, and a shotgun with birdshot, for the turret. All of these provide you with non-lethal means to get the convoy moving. The Crashes work REALLY well.
8. Assault pack.
9. Insist on good optics for all your weapons. User's preference. Thermals and PEQ-2 for night. ELCAN/ACOG/Aimpoint for Day.
10. Dismount radio with quick connect from vehicle intercom to dismount radio. Have your ELM guys fab up quick disconnects that allow you to plug your comms headsets into the dismount radio instead of carrying around two different headsets.
11. Memorize Sheriff net and CASEVAC freqs.
12. Learn FBCB2.
13. Carry a small GPS with local FOBs already plotted.
14. Modify your turret with better handles for turning, bustle rack for extra ammo, rockets, holster for your 16/shotgun, and frags/smoke/crashes.
15. PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE. Roll-over drills, down gunner, down driver drills. EVERY guy in the vehicle MUST be proficient with the crew served, radio, FBCB2, and navigation. SOPs will get old after the first month. Practice one event each patrol before departure EVERY TIME! Get with the local CASEVAC company and set up a real rehearsal from radio call to extraction. Live fire your SOPs even if it means driving into the middle of nowhere if the command says no. Test fire your weapons every patrol if possible.
16. Set up mandatory PM days. We did them once a week just like garrison. Three tours in Iraq and I only had a flat tire. Know your gear intimately. Kiss your mechanic's asses frequently. If it sounds funny replace the stuff immediately! Carry a small tool kit, spare tire, **** runflats, and small repair parts(fan belt, oil)
17. LEARN ARABIC!!! Do it now! YOU will be the one talking to the locals as the gunner. Learn Arabic hand gestures. The dirty bird doesn't fly in Iraq.

I'm tired I'll stop now. Lastly you are not going to a wasteland. Internet access is common. If you get there and find out you need something you get online and buy it! Packages take about two weeks from the states, sometime quicker.

Have fun.

Herrmannek

09-24-2005, 11:52 AM

Frens

09-24-2005, 12:03 PM

Fire reterdant underware :)

And I'm serious, i was thinking about something like that...but never wore this things so don't ask me if that good idea. http://www.gforce.com/products/underwear/frunderwear.html

that would be interesting...this could happen again :(

http://www.militaryproject.org/images/208-3.jpg

stay safe!

Herrmannek

09-24-2005, 12:14 PM

I was thinking more about blast or burning inside the car, but yes...

Catch22

09-24-2005, 12:26 PM

If he's to be a turret man, molotovs (if any will fly, hopefully not) will be first to meet him - so Herrmannek point is valid. Get a brethable, flame-retardant ones.

Sabre

09-24-2005, 02:24 PM

^yeah, I've been thinking about getting some silk stuff.

15. PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE. Roll-over drills, down gunner, down driver drills. EVERY guy in the vehicle MUST be proficient with the crew served, radio, FBCB2, and navigation. SOPs will get old after the first month. Practice one event each patrol before departure EVERY TIME! Get with the local CASEVAC company and set up a real rehearsal from radio call to extraction. Live fire your SOPs even if it means driving into the middle of nowhere if the command says no. Test fire your weapons every patrol if possible.

This is key. It doesn't matter what kit you've got if you aren't practiced in your drills. Be proactive in organising this, the big green machine is ****e to letting things slide. Only you can ensure you are confident with your drills.

scrybe

09-24-2005, 02:33 PM

Check out this thread and stay safe: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=132&t=310984

James

09-24-2005, 02:47 PM

Listen to Molsen and Deuterium; they had some good things to say.

About holsters - consider a Safriland if you are authorized a drop leg holster. If you get a belt holster, I'd suggest buying quality leather "Galco or something). Kydex can break, and I'm not particularily fond of nylon.

As popular as they are, I would suggest NOT getting a bunch of underarmor shirts; I understand that they can melt.

As for a go bag, i have one of these:

http://www.diamondbacktactical.com/BattleLab-Escape-Evasion-Bag--P277C128.aspx

It's handy - Maps, GPS, compass, extra ammo, chemlights, frag/smoke, pop ups, chemlights, pop ups, air panel, etc. all in one convenient package.

Are you able to get a single point sling mount for your rifle? It fits between the upper receiver and the buttstock. I use one over here in A'Stan, and I prefer it to a regular tactical/3 point sling.

Get a scarf/shemagh if you are allowed to wear such a thing. They're handy when it's dusty and windy out. Even an OD sling will work.

http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&productId=12836345&parent_category_rn=4501449&vcat=REI_SEARCH
SOmething like this (in a better color) - I've got a green one I wear over here, and it's great when it's toasty out.

If i can think of more that would be reasonable, I will post.

USMarine3521

09-24-2005, 04:05 PM

PS: If you're a DEP, as your name suggests, why even worry about it at this point? Or is that just a really old user name?

I used to post here when I was in the DEP a long time ago but im an E3 now.

Are you able to get a single point sling mount for your rifle? It fits between the upper receiver and the buttstock. I use one over here in A'Stan, and I prefer it to a regular tactical/3 point sling.

are you talking about something like this? http://www.spectergear.com/mout_sling.htm

Only thing I'm worried about with that sling is can you still go in sling arms?

thanks a lot to everyone for the input

USMarine3521

09-24-2005, 04:08 PM

oh and another thing, they have tobacco products you can buy at the PX?

Deuterium

09-24-2005, 04:25 PM

I don't use any but many guys smoked bootleg Marlboro from Haji. Guys that dipped had stuff sent to them from the states. The stuff in the PX wasn't the right can or something to that effect. No one that I knew had any problems. In fact it was quitting that most guys had a problem with. I think almost all the guys in the company tried to quit at one time or another. I think out of the entire company maybe one guy was succesful. They used the patch from the medics. Combat ain't a time to quit.

ibstolidude

09-24-2005, 08:57 PM

7. Get some smoke, Navy Crashes (FlashBangs), 6 or 9 Bangers, or even the regular DOD metal FlashBangs, and a shotgun with birdshot, for the turret. All of these provide you with non-lethal means to get the convoy moving. The Crashes work REALLY well.

Use bandoleers ato hold smokes and bangs - even water bottles 1/4 full of sand. As bad as that is - sometimes people need to be reminded of the seriousness - a good hood THUNK beats shooting Haji Abdul Smith for simply tailing too close too long.

oh and if you throw smoke/bangs - keep the **** at arms length when in the turret - don't let that **** fall inside.

12. Learn FBCB2. You spoiled my day. Not that it you didn't/don't give great advice or it isn't valid and important; but just for mentioning something so cav-tarded.

Th simple things cause the most problems - death is in details - simple stuff like burying med **** in vehicles - practice tire changes - tow bar and stap hook ups -etc - know everything you can about anything your unit carries and/or employs..

not specifc to any theater but always I suggest commercial packs of alligator clips and wire - learn to hook up EVERYTHING to car batteries - from MBITR charges (or what ever the USMC uses) to PRC-150 to PSC-5 to commercial aircompressors
- Tire plugs and patch kits, there is no such things as too many tires.

or don't worry about it - you'll fall in on it down-range -bwahhha hahaaaa.

also see here
http://www.socnetcentral.com/vb/showthread.php?t=47945

davis411

09-25-2005, 08:18 AM

http://www.skdtac.com/ ;)

Beppo

09-25-2005, 12:04 PM

As popular as they are, I would suggest NOT getting a bunch of underarmor shirts; I understand that they can melt.Really? Geez, once I tried one (took me a few months to believe that a single t-shirt was worth $20) I ended up not wearing anything BUT Underamour "Heatgear". In fact during sweltering summer days back here in the States I still wore them (it's fall now though so I'm back to regular poly/cotton). But that's just me.

PS: Here's a quote from the AR-15 message board that was linked earlier:

Do NOT buy any camelbaks, LBVs/tactical vests, pistol belt, goggles, Wiley Xs, Nomex gloves, winter gloves, a case of AA batteries, balaclava, buttpack, bellville boots, fancy BDU belt, face paint, solar battery charger, solar shower, transformer, power strip, 220v plug adapter, DVD movies, fleece jacket, wool cap, polypros, canteens, night vision, weight set, boom box, 100 mph tape, ghillie suit, water filter, machete/kukri.

You don't need half this crap, and if so, you will be issued everything at CIF and RFI. 100 mph tape and batteries you can buy at a PX in Iraq. Electrical stuff and movies you can buy from Haji at your FOB. Try not to carry too much stuff. I showed up at Fort Jackson and then to Fort Benning with almost a full duffle bag and a laptop. I left Benning with three tightly packed duffle bags and a laptop, and a fourth duffle in a conex. Alot of the issued web gear, gloves and winter clothing/boots still sits in one duffle bag collecting dust. We got issued two camelbaks, and everyone wore them at Benning. Out here no one wears them; we just load coolers in our humvees with frozen water bottles while on patrol.
I agree with this guy 100%. I overpacked plus spent like $200 on crap I ended up never using, or was already available over there. If/when I have to do it again I'm packing light but bringing an extra duffel bag/flyer's bag to bring back the extra gear/souvenirs/war treasures I end up "acquiring".

aclark79

08-28-2006, 07:09 PM

Ok, my friends wife is deploying in January with an Oregon National Guard civil affairs unit. They know I'm on forums like this so asked my help. Since I don't have Iraq experiance I thought the best thing was to ask here

Basicly they want to know what gear she should bring to Iraq, gear that will not be issued and will be bought out of her own pocket. I'm thinking things here like an extra flashlight, things like that.

Body armour, weapons those kinds of things will all be issued to her by her unit.

So any advice on what you would bring, or what you found was the best thing there, or even what you wished you had the most, please post it here.

TehSuig

08-28-2006, 08:23 PM

iPod, laptop, Oakley M Frames, calling cards a'plenty...

It all really depends on what kind of gear she's going to get at RFI (pre-deployment issue). The Army's been pretty good as of late getting everybody what they need, it's the little comfort items you gotta worry about.

godcode

08-28-2006, 11:28 PM

dont forget to bring those vibrators

rangerone

08-28-2006, 11:44 PM

I 'took' this from Stephen over on LF.net. TONS of good advice in his post.

"Packing for War:

a gear list for deployment to SW Asia

Let me start by saying that this is a list of what I took, what I wish I had taken, and what I would have taken had I been allowed. This is all-inclusive and may include items that you’ll find you won’t need or already have. It is not in any particular order of importance (although, I would definitely put the MICH/ACH Helmet at the top of my own priority list). My list is more military oriented because I went over as an infantry soldier, but is probably quite relevant for PSD’s and civilian contractors. If you haven’t been issued these items, they can all be found at www.lightfighter.com unless noted otherwise.

-ACH Helmet (also called TC-2000 or MICH). If you have to wear a combat helmet for any period of time this one is probably the best available and will save you from fatigue and headaches. It is neutrally buoyant and is also authorized for use as a motorcycle helmet by the Special Operations Command. The Oregon Aero pad system is a huge step forward in ergonomics and comfort over the old leather sweatband from helmets past. They use a unique and proprietary construction process to make them the best thing to happen to helmets since the steel pot. Previous helmets would literally wear you down the longer you had to wear them. If you can’t get your hands on an ACH helmet, then at least get the Oregon Aero BLU upgrade and the Specialty Defense 3-Point chinstrap for the K-Pot. This upgrade kit takes a couple of minutes to install and basically converts your K-pot suspension over to the same setup as the ACH helmet. Unfortunately, this won’t improve the helmet shape or ballistic protection that the ACH provides, but it will greatly increase the comfort level.

-Lightfighter RAID Pack. This is a medium sized assault pack that I designed along with the original owner of Lightfighter Tactical, SSG Brad Nelson. We developed it based off of our own experiences in the Army. It has all the features that were never available in an Assault Pack until this one. It has a full length zipper that allows unrestricted access to the contents of the pack. The RAID Pack is covered from top to bottom in modular PALS webbing that enables it to be used with any of the MOLLE style pockets currently issued by the Army and Marine Corps. You may not be doing much, if any, straight Infantry stuff, but it will make your life a lot easier for the day to day living. I lived out of mine for days and weeks at a time and it never let me down. In addition to being the best assault pack ever made, it is also a great day pack and carry-on bag. Make sure to take some extra pockets of varying sizes for the exterior. This will allow you to configure it as a larger pack if you need the additional space.

-Body armor and load carrying equipment. I’m going to assume that you’ll be wearing some kind of protective armor anytime that you’re not asleep or on the can (and sometimes even then!). If you can lay your hands on one, Eagle Industries’ CIRAS Releasable Armored Vest is a top preference and the vest that I use now. It comes in a maritime and land variant, but they both serve basically the same purpose (I prefer the Maritime variant for its slightly more streamlined design). I would also highly recommend the releasable or non-releasable versions of Paraclete’s RAV Armor. Point Blank’s FSBE armor is another good choice and it’s what I wore in the sandbox for OIF1. Lightfighter Tactical has just introduced the Warhammer vest (December 04) that looks like it will be the best choice for someone who doesn’t need releasable armor. It has 6 integral mag pockets, internal plate carriers, and is priced very reasonably. Use IIIA soft armor panels (or the SPEAR BALCS equivalent) and Level III or IV hard armor plates (the issued SAPI or BALCS plates are probably fine) depending on the known threats in your area of operations. Take extra pockets that you think you might need so that you can tailor your load to specific threats and missions. The Eagle MLCS/RLCS (my personal favorite) or the Paraclete LCS/Assaulter kit both have a variety of pockets, vests, and a deployment bag in which to carry all the pieces and parts. They are expensive ($1500 to $2500 for the complete set), but contain enough pouches to create an unlimited number of load carrying options. I kept my pouches and pockets attached directly to my vest and didn’t need a separate vest or chest rig. Make sure you try it both ways for long stretches of time before you rule one or the other out. I didn’t realize how uncomfortable the unpadded straps of my chest rig were, even over my armor, until I’d worn a full combat load in it for 5 days straight. That’s when I put all my kit directly onto my armor and ditched the chest harness. Don’t worry about taking to much kit. If nothing else, there will be guys over there that will need items that you have and aren’t using that you can barter with.

Here are some items you should consider carrying:
-M4 mags (depending on mission and anticipated threat the number could vary between 6 and 20 mags). I always carried one or two of these mags on my first line (in pockets or on trouser belt). We also carried an MRE box full of loaded mags, frags, and smokes in each vehicle. If the **** really hit the fan you had a stash to grab from. Keep the mags in their cloth bandoleers so that you can grab one and get away from the bullet magnet. I mean vehicle.
-3 to 6 sidearm mags (depending on caliber/magazine capacity)
-40mm grenades. If you have a 40mm grenade launcher carry as many golden eggs as you can. Then have twice that many more where you can get them quickly (vehicle, assault pack, etc.). These things are devastatingly effective for destroying enemy positions and breaking contact.
-Couple of frags
-Couple of smokes (the A.L.S. Tactical Coverage Pocket Smokes are a great option in a small package)
-Couple of bangs
-NOD (Night Observation Device). I’ll talk more about these later.
-A handful of visible and IR chem-lights
-2 or 3 Liter hydration bladder.
-Very small first aid kit for everyday cuts and boo-boo’s (band-aids, Neosporin, Tylenol, etc.). Make sure this is separated in some way from your trauma kit. Other wise you could inadvertently use up or otherwise misplace a potentially life saving piece of med kit.
-Small to medium trauma kit (with things like IV and starter kit, Quick Clot ACS [Advanced Clotting Sponge], tourniquet, and several blow out bandages). The Marine Corps and Army issued IFAK is a good starting point that you can build on. A more advanced kit or any specialty items should be carried in your RAID Pack.
- Dump pouch. It’s not absolutely necessary, but can be useful for when you need a convenient place to secure different items that are not part of your normal kit. Prisoner searches, demo charges, and empty magazines come to mind. I like the style made by Eagle Industries or Recce Gear that fold up compactly on your belt until it is needed.
-GPS. Make sure to play with it a lot before you need it. These are an excellent navigation tool, but if you are not totally confident in their use they can be confusing. They can also be deadly if used incorrectly during “Call for Fire” missions.
-Compass and map. Once again, make sure you’re confident with these before you need them. You don’t need a huge military style compass. One of the simple, lightweight hiking versions will do just fine for most situations.
-Day/Night signaling devices (9 volt strobe, whistle, orange signal panel, mirror, etc.). It might be a good idea to keep these on your first line too.
-Administrative pouch or pocket containing waterproof notepad, pen, and pencil. Always have these handy for note taking.
-Squad/Team radio.
-“Leatherman” style multi-tool. This should probably be at the top of the list after your mags. I have no idea how soldiers got by before these were invented. They must have carried around a tool box or broken a lot of pocket knife blades. I like the Gerber Multi-tool. It’s fairly inexpensive (I’ve seen the standard model at Walmart before for less than $30) and I like that you can deploy the pliers one handed.
-Very small flashlight. (i.e. Inova Microlight).
-Cigarette lighter (a Bic is fine. The Zippo lighters are nearly worthless except to barter with.)
-Handful of lickies and chewies. Besides the fact that everybody loves a good piece of candy when their chips are down, they can be perfect when you develop a hacking cough right in the middle of a night time patrol.

It’s a lot of stuff and it gets heavy when you wear it all day, but this kind of work isn’t for the weak or feint of heart. You’ll get used to it. The flip side of that is that you want to remain mobile in case you have to move around quickly. Work very carefully to establish a balance between too much gear and not enough. Use your RAID Pack as a carry all for bulky, heavy, or “extra” items and just leave it in your vehicle where it is still accessible and easily retrieved. Distribute squad items amongst your men so that everybody carries an equitable load.

-Rucksack. I like the MOLLE II Rucksack. Specifically, I like the MOLLE II Large with the Generation III frame (to differentiate it from the older style, the latest GenIII frame is molded in either OD or Khaki instead of Black). It is economically priced, comfortable, and durable. I took the issued MOLLE II ruck to Iraq with me and it never let me down. The MOLLE II Large was born from comments that came directly from the field and is basically the next iteration of the original MOLLE design. The Generation III frame is also the latest evolution of the MOLLE design and is much, MUCH more durable than the previous variants. If money is no object, then I highly recommend the Kifaru MMR, www.kifaru.net. It is covered from top to bottom in PALS webbing for use with any of the current MOLLE compatible pockets. The Kifaru MMR also has a huge edge in long term comfort. It is an internal frame design and rides extremely well regardless of the amount of weight it carries. The load will be heavy and it will suck, don’t get me wrong, but the Kifaru frames are excellent at properly distributing the weight. You may be limited to what you are allowed to use because of uniformity, but if you are issued MOLLE then the MOLLE Large will work fine. If you are still issued the ALICE Pack, then I highly recommend sending it off to www.tacticaltailor.com to have it strengthened and improved. If you are a PSD or civilian contractor consider investing in a nondescript, heavy-duty set of luggage. Stay away from all black travel items. It screams security team. Try a nice paisley set…

-If you’re doing any low visibility protection or security work where you can only wear concealed soft armor, you should consider taking a plate carrier. This will allow you to instantly upgrade your armor level to protect against rifle threats by just throwing it on over your soft armor. Just leave it in the vehicle until it is needed. They’re all about the same, but Eagle Industries makes a good one at a good price. The SO Tech Callahan vest is also quite versatile. It combines a plate carrier with a removable chest harness. It’s pretty neat.

-E&E Kit (Escape and Evasion kit). This is something that you will probably have to put together yourself, but the guys at www.prosurvivalkit.com also make some really good ones. It should include just the essentials you would need to survive if on your own for a unknown period of time in a given setting. Meaning, it should be specifically tailored to your environment and mission. Some suggestions are: small supply of high energy food (MRE, sport bars, and the like), means to collect food locally (fishing line, hooks, snares, etc.), cash in local currency and/or American money, signaling devices (strobe, whistle, mirror, etc.), small medical kit, small amount of water or means to collect water (purifying tablets, solar still, etc.), solar blanket, etc. Some neat items I’ve just heard about are the Hydration Tech Forward Osmosis pouches found at www.hydrationtech.com. They can turn muddy, bacteria ridden swamp water into drinkable water in a few hours with no mixing, pumping, or moving parts. Some people will say a full-blown E&E kit is essential, but depending on your mission you may not need a duffel bag full of survival kit. Think Bravo Two Zero compared to Blackhawk Down; A week of surviving on your own as opposed to 18 hours of surviving on your own. Your mission and environment will dictate what you need to carry. Me personally? I kept one stripped down MRE, $300 in American currency (small bills; $1's, $10’s, and $20’s), very small medical kit, 9 volt IR strobe, orange lightweight SERE panel, and a small lightweight solar blanket (mirrored on one side, brownish-tan on the other) on me at all times. After I stripped down the MRE, I put the other items back into the MRE pouch, re-sealed it with 100-mile-an-hour tape, and kept it in one of my cargo pockets. Since then, I have found out about the Regular and Large versions of CSM Gear’s Fanny Pack www.csmgear.com They are a great way to carry an E&E kit or other miscellaneous items. The Kifaru E&E Pack is also a pretty good choice for a larger kit and, through the use of side release buckles, can be clipped (or “Dock and Lock”-ed as Kifaru calls it) to the outside of your pack for quick access and easy removal.

-PVS-14 Night Vision Monocular. I don’t know how you will be outfitted, but I would put this item at the top of my own packing list. Their use will give you such a huge advantage at night that you will wonder how you got along without them. Don’t forget all the equipment to attach it to your helmet and to wear it as a stand-alone unit. The compass attachment for the lens is a neat extra. It allows the wearer to instantly get a direction reading without having to lift up the NOD and dig out a compass. It is especially important for land navigation or patrolling at night, but it can also be useful for calling and directing fire on a distant target or observation/surveillance work. Consider getting a small protective case for them that attaches directly to your vest or assault pack. The PVS-7/14 cases from www.supplycaptain.com are great and provide maximum protection with minimal bulk. Blade-tech also makes a fairly good one, but loctite all the screws and mounting hardware before you use it.

-Sand and sun goggles. Anything by Oakley is probably the best choice. Although I’ve heard some bad things about them, I found that in the dry heat the Wiley-X SG-1’s also worked well and the lenses didn’t fog very much. I usually sweat pretty badly too. I liked them because they were much less bulky than a standard set of goggles, but still offered excellent protection from sun, sand, and wind. I also like the Bolle T-800 Tactical Goggles, but any quality set of goggles that you’re comfortable with will do just fine. At a minimum, the goggles you choose should be well vented and offer the ability to replace lenses should they become scratched or damaged. For protecting and covering the lens, I recommend the cut off sock technique over a flap cover. The flap cover only protects the goggles against damage. They allow sand and crud to enter and the goggles will be useless when you need them. ESS brand goggles come with a spandex “tube” that works even better than the time tested cut off sock.

-Sunglasses. Same deal as the goggles. I like the Oakley XX’s. They offer wrap around ballistic protection and to be honest, they just look really cool. Whatever style you decide on, they should be “ballistic” glasses. It only takes one little tiny shell fragment or bullet fragment to ruin your eyesight forever. All of the Oakley line offers this protection. The Oakley’s are a little more expensive than most, but when you consider the ramifications of losing your vision in the middle of combat they really are worth every penny.

-A couple of good scarves or shemaghs. You’ll find a hundred uses for them, but mostly they keep the sand from going down your shirt during sandstorms and while driving or flying around. The Army issued brown cotton scarf will work fine. A shemagh purchased on the local economy may help you blend in better with the natives. They can be used as a towel, emergency toilet paper, bandages, sling, cleaning patches, musket wadding, or a dozen other uses.

-“Boonie” style hat. Helps keep your face, ears, and neck from getting burnt. Also keeps the sun out of your eyes. A lot of guys consider the brim to wide on the issued boonie hat, but I never had a problem with it. If it doesn’t suit your fancy it would be an easy fix for pretty much any alterations shop.

-Comfortable, light-colored, loose fitting uniform or clothing. Whether you wear 5.11’s, DCU’s, flightsuits, or whatever, make sure that they are durable and loose fitting. Just because you wore a Medium Regular set of BDU’s when you graduated basic training doesn’t mean that you still do. If the clothing you wear is too tight you will be hot and uncomfortable. Make sure you take some warm stuff too. Depending on your AO, the nights will start getting cool sometime in September. The sleeves of your blouse should probably have pockets on them if you’re going to be wearing armor outside the gates as the chest pockets will be covered and fairly useless.. I wear mostly the Royal Robbins 5.11 stuff now. They continually expand their line of clothing and offer some great products at fair prices. The 5.11 line is pretty standard “gun guy” clothing these days which basically means that it is a rugged line of daily wear that looks inconspicuous and non-military to the casual observer. The Crye Precision combat/field uniforms also look very promising and their proprietary Multicam pattern is extremely effective over a variety of terrain. They are also going to offer the Field Uniform in Khaki and OD. These might also do very well as a non-descript PSD uniform, but because they made in America they are much more expensive than the 5.11 stuff.

-Take a pair of comfortable, well broken in boots. The Wellco Desert Tuffkushion Boots are awesome. They feel like a set of broken in boots right out of the box. I’ve been wearing these boots, though not the same pair, for years now and they're great. I tend to replace them about every 6 to 9 months depending on use. Not because they're falling apart, but because the cushioning starts to lose its spring or the tread pattern gets worn down. Considering I wear them just about every day that's pretty good. It doesn’t really matter which color you choose. Even black boots will be sand colored by the end of the first week. I would take a pair of Hot Weather style boots for every 2 or 3 months you’re going to be over there. A lot of different manufacturers are making “Assault Boots” these days that supposedly feel like you’re wearing running shoes. You may want to give one of those a try. For cooler weather, just take some thicker socks. Speaking of socks, for lots of hiking or walking, only wool or synthetic socks will do. Blisterguard and Smartwool brands come to mind. Cotton socks will eat your feet up and they will look and feel like raw hamburger meat by the end of the first long movement. Then after they have chewed up and blistered your feet, the cotton socks themselves will fall apart and become even more useless.

-Take a set of amplified hearing devices like the Peltor Comtac II or the Sordin Supreme PRO. Amplified hearing devices are great at what they do, but they really shine when the bullets start flying. I went without when I was there and just used the Army issued orange plugs, but since communication is one of the most important aspects of combat I’d definitely give mine a try if I went back. If you’re going to be using a team radio on missions or when you’re outside your firebase, then consider getting the model with the integrated communications package (like the TCI Liberator II Headset). They work with your personal radio and offer you amplified hearing protection all in one package.

-I would take an M9 bayonet (if you have an M4/M16). They can be very intimidating when you’re not allowed to just shoot people. A lot of the people you will meet are used to having guns shoved in their faces, but a bayonet is almost supernatural. People will acknowledge it. It’s not much of a field knife, but it’s great for crowd control. For that matter I would probably take all the typical crowd/prisoner control stuff. Baton, mace, flex/hand cuffs, Taser, etc.

-I’d take a chemical protective mask to be on the safe side, but I doubt it will ever come out of the duffel bag. It may be useful if you find yourself using CS or tear gas on a regular basis. You may want to consider taking or “requisitioning” a chemical protective suit like the military issued JSLIST (Joint Service Light-weight Integrated Suit Technology; commercially referred to as the Saratoga Suit). There are still a lot of chemical weapons unaccounted for and recent reports suggest that the insurgents in Iraq are trying hard to acquire the WMD’s left over from Saddam’s regime. I know the M40A1 protective mask inside and out so that’s what I use, but whatever you take, I would recommend that it be compatible with military replacement parts as they are easier to locate in country. Take an extra filter or two.

-Don’t worry too much about rain gear, but you may want to consider something along the lines of a lightweight Gore-Tex jacket. When combined with layered clothing this could also be used as your cold weather jacket. It didn’t rain on us much, but when it did it was cold and there was lots of it.

-Wristwatch. The Casio G-shock is an excellent choice. It is a good, inexpensive, durable watch. It has a stopwatch feature, a countdown timer, an alarm, and is waterproof down to 200 Meters (not that you’ll ever use that feature in Iraq/Afghanistan/Kuwait). I’m still looking for one of the tan colored G-Shocks that are rumored to exist, but CDI black will do just fine.

-Lip balm, sunscreen, and insect repellent. The air is… um, a little dry. Unless you grew up in the desert South West you WILL need the lip balm/chap stick. I don’t think I used any of the sunscreen that was included in every single one of the care packages I got, but you never know. The mosquitoes over there can be pretty bad depending on your location and the flies are really, REALLY bad no matter where you’re at. You might want to take some fly strips or poison.

-Medication. If you are on any form of medication, OTC or prescription, then you need to take your own stash with you. Don’t count on haji-mart or the PX to carry your favorite brand of cough drops. This includes vitamins, allergy medication, etc. I took plenty of Tylenol and Imodium just in case.

-Hammock. The $10 kind they sell at Military Clothing Sales packaged by Brigade Quartermaster works great. I think it holds 500 pounds as a hammock and can be used for a dozen different uses (hammock, cast net, hide site, etc.). They are super comfy, pack down real small, and help to keep you cool while you try to sleep. They keep your feet elevated giving them a much-needed rest. Be wary of using a hammock when it starts getting cold at night. It will keep you a little too cool.

-Sleeping bag. I actually got away with using just my woobie the whole time I was in the box, but in the winter months you will definitely need something warmer. I like the two season bags that pack down real small like the Artkis Halo 3 or the Snugpak Merlin. The Wiggy’s bags are really well made and work really well, but don’t pack down as small as some similar bags. You can add a waterproof outside “Bivy Sack” to these and they are usually good as long as you are dressed appropriately and the air temperature stays above freezing. A good sleeping pad is almost as important as the bag. Besides making sleeping on the ground slightly more tolerable, it will provide an insulating cushion of air that will help keep you from getting too hot or too cold. You can find these at any good hiking and camping store. If you get the inflatable kind be sure to buy and bring a patch and repair kit.

-Snivel gear. The Infantry axiom, “Pack light, freeze at night,” is as old as it is true. I froze my ass off the first few weeks in country until our “comfort items” caught up with us. I would recommend at least a few lightweight, compressible layers that you can take with you if needed. The Arktis Stowaway Shirt saved my ass on several nights. It packs down smaller than a baseball and really works well as an intermediate layer of clothing. The Stowaway Shirt and the issued Polar Fleece watch cap; these two items will bottle the heat in enough to let you sleep comfortably during the spring and fall nights. During winter you will need true cold weather gear at night.

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-Knee Pads. I only used one on my right knee, because that’s the one I drop to when “taking a knee.” I wore both though and just kept the left pad pushed down around my ankle. It’s there if you need it, but won’t aggravate your leg where the straps rub. I can’t wait till someone invents a comfortable kneepad. But until they do, the Alta brand kneepads with the buckle closure are probably the best. The can be had in a very good shade of Flat Dark Earth or the Army’s Universal Pattern. Avoid the issued Bijans knee and elbow pads. They’re hot, uncomfortable, expensive, and the knee cap is made of a hard, easily cracked plastic. Several uniform companies are making jackets and trousers with slot pockets for foam padding (tool box liner works well) already built into the knees and elbows. BDU’s can also be fairly easily modified in this manner at home or by your local seamstress. The downside is that continual use will wear a hole through your not-so-easily-replaced trousers. The upside is that you're always wearing some knee and elbow protection.

-Batteries. You will probably be supplied with these in country, but go ahead and take extras for every item you have that requires them. If you have something that takes an odd battery like the M68 Close Combat Optic (CCO) or the N size batteries in the EOTech Holosight, then make sure you will be able to resupply. If not, take your own stash.

-Tie-downs. We used these unfailingly for all of our high-dollar/sensitive items. Just use a little bit of gutted 550 cord (formed by removing the 7 inner strands from a length of 550 cord). If you don’t “gut” the 550 cord first the knots will have a tendency to come undone if not regularly tightened. This can save you a lot of heartache as some items will be very difficult or impossible to replace in theater. I’ve seen several Joes with laser aiming devices or red dot sights dangling off their weapon by their tie-down that otherwise would have been damaged or lost. Use no more 550 cord than is needed to tie the item down or you could create a snag hazard. I’d take a couple hundred feet of 550 cord and a bag of heavy-duty zip-ties to be used for all kinds of field repairs and tie-downs. The really heavy duty zip-ties can also be used as prisoner restraints. 550 cord has a lot of other uses too. It can be used to replace boot laces, hang heavy items, and the inner strands can even be used for heavy duty sewing and emergency sutures.

-Gloves. I like the aviator style gloves that have become popular for tactical work (military pilots have been wearing them since the Vietnam era). They are relatively inexpensive, easy to find (you can get them through the military supply system), and offer good dexterity and protection. They are a lightweight glove and tend to wear out quicker than something like a work glove. The Hatch Operator CQB gloves are also nice. They are more expensive, but have nicer features. Wiley-X also has a set of gloves similar in overall design to the Hatch CQB’s, but with heavy duty protection on the knuckles and other advanced features. These CAG Gloves are a bit more expensive than typical gloves, but offer a lot of state-of-the-art features (if there is such a thing with gloves) not to be found elsewhere at this time. I would find what you like and take a pair for every 2 or 3 months you’ll be deployed.

-100 mile-an-hour tape (or duct tape). This stuff holds the world together. You will never stop finding uses for it. A tip I learned from my Dad while hunting, hiking, and camping was to put a dozen wraps or so around each of my canteens so that I’d always have some on me without having to carry the weight and bulk of a full roll.

-Pocket knife. The tactical folders are nice, but even something like a Swiss Army knife will work well. You may even find the Swiss Army knife to be more useful. If you go with a tactical folder, I’ve had excellent luck with Benchmade, Spyderco and CRKT knives. My current favorite tactical folder is the Strider-Buck 889. They are reasonably priced, hold an edge well, and require minimal maintenance. Along those lines, make sure you take a knife sharpener. This may seem obvious, but I could have made a fortune renting out the sharpener I took with me. For a non-serrated knife blade, my favorite sharpeners are the kind you find at Wal-mart for sharpening kitchen knives. You just pull the blade through the notch a half dozen times and it will quickly put the edge back on your blade.

-Several Bic lighters. Even if you don’t smoke they are light weight insurance.

-Entertainment. You won’t be busy every second and it’s nice to have something to pass the time; Books, Game Boy, Laptop with DVD player and wireless capability, pictures from home, etc.

-Carabineers/D-rings. Take a handful of the locking and non-locking styles. They are almost as useful as 100 mile-an-hour tape or 550 cord. Make sure you get the ones rated for climbing or rappelling and not the crappy, multi-colored key-chain style like the ones found by the checkout at Wal-Mart. That way, you can use them for actual load-bearing applications if needed.

-Digital Camera. You will see things that defy description and live through things that will be a blur after time has gone by. I wouldn’t suggest snapping away in the middle of a drama, but it will be nice to have a record of your experience. Take plenty of memory or memory “sticks.”

-ID Tags. Have a set of “Dog tags” made up and wear them all day, every day. I would put these at the top of my own list right after the ACH Helmet. If the worst happens it will make things easier on everybody. Make sure they have the correct blood type on them. If you don’t know yours, go donate some blood to the Red Cross and they will type your blood for you. In addition, we wrote our blood type on everything we wore; boots, helmet, t-shirt, etc. The seconds it shaves off of your triage time could save your life. I have found out since my time in the box that the blood type on the uniform sleeves is mostly a "Hollywood" thing. The CASH is going to type and cross your blood before giving or taking any from you, but who knows. It certainly doesn't hurt. Once again, cheap insurance.

WEAPONS

-I’m assuming you’ll have an M4 or something similar. First, clean your weapon every day. I think that the M4 is an excellent, reliable weapon, but the day you skip weapons maintenance is the day you’ll need it most. I cleaned mine everyday before anything else and after every time I had to fire it. If you ride on helicopters as much as we did this becomes especially important. Those birds will find a way to get dirt and grit into every crevice (yours and your weapon’s). Riding around in vehicles is just as bad about coating you in dust. The Army issued cleaning kit is a good start. I would add a bottle of Strike Hold weapons lube. It goes on like any other oil, but then evaporates leaving a Teflon-like coating that doesn’t attract dust or dirt like oil will. The little shaving brushes used to apply shaving cream are also good for brushing off your weapon in the sandy environment. Keep a muzzle cap on the end, a magazine in the well, and the dust cover closed when you’re not cleaning it or shooting it.

-Obviously, red dot sight, BUIS (Back-Up Iron Sight), and high output Surefire style tactical light are a must. I still see the occasional magazine article where an author without any practical experience downplays the effectiveness of the red-dot, collimator style sights. Iron sights are great and all, and they are necessary for backup purposes, but if you really want to make hits, under stress, at a variety of ranges, under any lighting condition, I believe that a CCO is essential. If you can afford one, the Trijicon TA31F ACOG is a good choice for longer shooting. The TA31F model has a graduated reticle that compensates for bullet drop over different ranges. The reticle is also illuminated for low light shooting and the chevron shape is excellent for precise shooting.

-If you’re able to take PVS-14’s or any sort of night vision devices then I think your primary weapon should have an IR laser-aiming device. Once again, huge advantage at night to be able to bear down on your enemy without him even knowing he is being targeted. The military models are a good yard stick for performance, but most of the respectable “light and laser” companies like Surefire and Laser Devices make IR aiming devices. These can be tough to get as they are restricted items controlled by the FDA. Yes, Food and Drug Administration.

-While the IR lasers can be tough to find, it is very easy to get an IR filter for your tactical light that will allow you to conduct covert searches inside darkened buildings and under heavy cloud cover when there isn’t enough ambient light for the PVS-14’s to be effective. Another good addition for operations under reduced light is the Surefire M1 IR Illuminator. It is a handheld unit a little smaller than their 6P that I keep Velcro'd to the side of my helmet. When switched on, it allows me to place a flood of IR compatible light wherever I happen to be looking.

-If I could have taken any weapon over there it would have been the M4 I carried with the addition of a sound suppressor. If not that, then a similarly configured M4 chambered for 6.8mm SPC to give my hits a little more oomph. Long-story-short, excessive loud noises are very distracting and disorienting when you’re trying to shoot, move, and communicate. Some of that can be mitigated with training, but if you can get a “can” for your weapon, do it. Once you’re out of contact and still alive, you want your hearing to be in good shape too. A sound suppressor will also greatly mitigate the effects of your muzzle blast on you and your mates when firing in enclosed spaces such as from a vehicle or during house-to-house fighting.

-Make sure all your magazines are clean, serviceable, and run well through your weapon. This includes dropping free of the magazine well when the release button is pressed. If you’re using USGI magazines, the Enhanced Self Leveling Follower from Magpul Industries Corporation is a good way to increase the reliability and function of the standard magazine. I also like their Ranger Plates which makes it easier to extract the magazine from its pouch and protect the magazine base plate when it is dropped from the mag well while reloading. Both are “drop-in” parts and require no tools or modification of the magazine. You can also buy magazines with these features already installed. Some of the best I’ve seen are the Teflon coated mags from DSG Arms. If you can get your hands on them, take some Heckler and Koch M4 mags. With a steel body and a metal follower, they are the bee’s knees. They are very tough, but almost double the weight of standard aluminum body magazine. Decisions, decisions. Magazines are the heart of a reliable weapon. Keep them clean and very well maintained at all times!

The magazines should be carried with the open end in the bottom of the pouch. This simplifies reloading and helps prevent intrusion of water and foreign debris into the magazine body. The tips of the bullets should be pointed towards your dominant side. This also helps alignment with the magazine well when they are removed from the pouch. As the magazine is removed from the pouch for insertion into the mag well align the index finger with the front edge of the mag itself. This allows a bit of natural indexing as the mag will go wherever the finger gets pointed and it positions the palm of the hand on the base of the magazine to firmly seat it in the well. After you believe the mag to be seated give it a tug to make sure.

-I would recommend either a Tango Down pistol grip, a VLTOR ModStock (or the Crane NSW stock if you can find or afford one), or both. They allow you to carry a variety of extra batteries or spare parts on your weapon and improve the cheek-to-stock weld for the M4 carbine. The Tango Down pistol grip also eliminates the pinching effect that is occasionally experienced with the trigger guard. If you’ve got a foregrip mounted, I like and recommend the Tango Down foregrip. It has a hollowed out storage compartment for batteries, extra bolt group, cleaning oil, etc. There is also a slot that will accept a pressure pad if you use one for your light or laser. Any or all of these would be a good addition. Magpul industries has a pistol grip called the MIAD grip. It is a modular design that allows you to configure the grip so that it fits your hand exactly the way you want it. It also has a waterproof storage compartment in the grip with different modules to precisely carry the contents without rattle or leaks (i.e. batteries, bolt, ammo, etc.). It may be worth checking out especially if you have very large or very small hands.

-Slings. I found that while wearing armor a traditional 3-point tactical sling just wasn’t working well. It was hard to get on and off and for some reason it didn’t really work quite right. The buckles and connections would get caught on the little protuberances all over my armor and I couldn’t always bring it to bear as quickly as I expected. So, after some experimentation and tinkering around I just kept my M4 clipped to my Armor with a 1-inch side release buckle and some extra webbing I had (I believe it was one of the lashing straps out of the MOLLE repair kit). This method kept the carbine on my person, the buttstock in the pocket of my shoulder, and it was convenient. I also kept a simple 3-point sling on it so that while not out and about I could still carry it tactically without my armor on. I don’t do it that way anymore. Ashley Burnsed of www.blueforcegear.com offers a revolutionary new sling called the SOC-C sling that can be used in single point, two point, three point, or directly attached to your armor. It can be switched between these different configurations very quickly and easily. Now, I have a buckle on my vest or armor and can very quickly switch back and forth between vest/armor mount or 3 Point sling as the situation dictates. He also offers the Contractor Pack for PSD’s and operators that will modify the sling to work with most NATO and former Warsaw Pact weapons just by changing out the modular adapters. Plus, the sling can be had in a very cool shade of Coyote Brown or Foliage Green webbing. Together, we’ve also developed the SOC-C-RVS or Releasable Vest Sling. It was designed to integrate into Eagle’s CIRAS vest and still be fully compatible with all of Blue Force Gear’s modular buckle adapters. It helps distribute the weight of the weapon without affecting the proper wear of the vest and doesn’t interfere with the release of the vest when the cut-away mechanism is pulled. There is also a version designed to work with plate carriers and vests other than the Eagle CIRAS which is called the Modular Vest Strap (MVS).

-If you’re a contractor and get “stuck” with an AK47 it’s not the end of the world. Indeed, some consider them a better choice over the M16/M4 series of weapons especially in that part of the world where ammo, magazines, and spare parts are plentiful. There are many options for good tactical slings, the mounting of CCO’s, and other improvements to form and function. The best advice I can give is to try and get one that hasn’t been beaten or abused. I’ve heard good things about rifles made in any of the former Warsaw Pact countries (i.e. Poland, East Germany, USSR, etc.), but as long as they aren’t worn-out, AK’s seem to run pretty well in general. Whatever you wind up with, keep it maintained well and shoot it plenty before you trust your life to it. If you know for a fact that you’re getting issued an AK I would recommend trying to take some of the 75 or 100 round drums along with you. I understand they are difficult to get “in-country” and they could make all the difference when breaking contact.

-If you are issued or allowed a sidearm, I would carry it in a Drop Leg style holster. This kind of holster will allow the weapon to be worn with armor and keeps it on your person even if you aren’t wearing your other gear. Ideally, this holster should drop down to just below your belt line. A lot of guys wear these too far down on their leg, just above their knee. This is incorrect and will slow your draw as you contort your body to try and reach your sidearm. It may also make it uncomfortable to wear and allow the holster to slide and flop around on your leg. Depending on what kind of work you’re doing, my favorites are London Bridge Trading Company’s NSW Holster or the Safariland 6004, but Eagle and SOE make great holsters too. I probably like the Safariland 6004 the best as you can easily and securely re-holster with one hand and without looking down at the holster. Because it is made of a thermo-molded plastic called Kydex, it is rigid and will protect the pistol better than a sewn together nylon holster. For this same reason though, it can become uncomfortable when worn for long periods or when you’re doing a lot of walking. I would also take a belt style concealment holster just in case.

-You will need a thick sturdy belt off of which to hang your holster and other Line One gear. The Specter Gear Rigger Belt is my favorite, but most of them are basically the same. I would just go with what is available from one of the reliable manufacturer (like Eagle, TAG, or Specter). Make sure it will fit through the loops on your trousers. Also, choose a model that is either double layered or stiffened with a plastic insert so that it won’t sag. Just a quick note about Rigger’s Belts; if you use them to go repelling you will wind up with your trousers up around your armpits and/or all your belt loops blown out. If you prefer it, you can wear a holster attached directly to your armor (Tactical Tailor and Paraclete make good ones), but for a quick, efficient fix you can also just use a standard M4 magazine pouch. If you aren’t wearing your vest then you will have to have a separate holster on your belt in which to move your pistol.

-On the subject of sidearms you may want to consider a lanyard for your pistol. A lanyard is a lot like a rifle sling, but for a pistol. If for some reason your pistol were to come loose from its holster the lanyard would prevent the loss of the pistol. There are some negatives. The lanyard can be a snag hazard as it hangs loosely from the back of the pistol. The absolute best lanyard available is the TRL made by a suppressor manufacturer called Gemtech. It has a large synthetic coil and a side release buckle to attach it to your duty belt or gear. It has a built in break away strength of 100 pounds. This could prevent a snag that may cost you life or limb like if you had to evacuate a burning vehicle or a helicopter that has gone down in water. A lanyard won’t work for you in every situation (i.e. concealed carry and possibly if you mounted your holster to your vest) so carefully consider the positives and negatives before you add one to your kit.

-“Rambo” knives. For the weight of a big survival style knife, you could carry an extra M4 mag or a couple of extra sidearm mags. You’re not going to be sneaking up behind sentries or making a survival shelter out of bamboo so leave the giant knives at home. A small, multi-purpose pocket knife will be infinitely more useful and practical. If you have to have a fixed blade knife then a medium sized utility knife will probably work well. My favorite in that size range is the MT Mod 10 from Strider Knives. I’ve found the MT Mod 10 to be an excellent compromise between size, strength, and usefulness. It is a mid-sized general purpose field knife and while there are other knives in this class, the MT Mod 10 is the toughest one that I have tried. I was given one by Strider Knives to try and destroy, and I failed. It is a tough SOB and it can be kept on your gear all day long without adding to much weight or bulk. I also like the Benchmade Nimravus and while it is half the price, it is not nearly as tough as the Strider. If you have to take one of the giant “Rambo” knives with you, leave it in your RAID Pack or in your vehicle. This goes for the bayonet too.

Some of this may be old hat for you, but like I said it is all-inclusive. A lot of this stuff can be expensive, but remember these 2 things: You can’t put a value on your own life and you should be making a good salary while you’re deployed. Consider it an investment. Most of all I will leave you with this; don’t trust anybody but your buddy beside you in the foxhole. It’s tough to be the asshole (well, for some of us), but that is what will keep you alive. Of all the training I had, I wish I’d had a better grasp on dealing with people who are hostile, but don’t need to be shot just yet.

God speed.

Stephen"

Now granted this is for a groundpounding Infantryman but it can easily be adapted for a Civil Affairs unit. I hope this helps ;-)

goat89

08-28-2006, 11:59 PM

Though I am not in the Military, I have several thoughts about the stuff rangerone recommended from the website. I have to agree on your own personal med pack and the Blood-ID thing. The personal med pack can help save someones life as you are able to attend to them ASAP if a medic is unavailable. Maybe your friends wife should learn a thing or 2 about Medical stuff. (probably she did or will when she's there) The Blood-ID thing is useful as it help saves time for the medic to find out your blood type if you are injured and unconscious. Let's hope it doesn't come to that. (Touchwood.....) Lastly, the Ballistic glasses is a must have. I have heard stories of soldiers standing to the ejection side of the rifle and the ejected bullet hit the soldier in the eye. OUCH. Plus the sun there is pretty strong, better to wear than get Cataract. Hope this helps. I wish her safe passage and vigilance. Godspeed.

James

08-29-2006, 02:16 AM

Everyone I've talked to (it was A-Stan, not Iraq) said that the blood type thing is ok, but not that important; if you are hurt that badly, you will get O- (universal donor IIRC) until they docs type your blood and give you exactly what you need. If you show up with A+ on your gear, you will get O+ until you are typed right there as A+.

Seraphim

08-29-2006, 02:36 AM

Lastly, the Ballistic glasses is a must have. I have heard stories of soldiers standing to the ejection side of the rifle and the ejected bullet hit the soldier in the eye. OUCH. Plus the sun there is pretty strong, better to wear than get Cataract. Hope this helps. I wish her safe passage and vigilance. Godspeed.

Oooooook...arent you 13 or something?

Nevins

08-29-2006, 02:45 AM

cool, didnt know there was "universial blood"

goodluck to your friends wife, hope she gets everything she needs.
and I think there are AAFES's on the big bases now, they probably supply comfort items (wouldnt know, never been there)

memphiz

08-29-2006, 02:50 AM

the Ballistic glasses is a must have. I have heard stories of soldiers standing to the ejection side of the rifle and the ejected bullet hit the soldier in the eye. OUCH. Plus the sun there is pretty strong, better to wear than get Cataract. Hope this helps. I wish her safe passage and vigilance. Godspeed.
Im assuming you mean "ejected casing in the eye" because usually a bullet in the eye ends in death. And there is more **** that can go in the eyes other than an ejected casing...

And this is for a women in the civil affairs unit... so the chances of that happening is a bit more rare

goat89

08-29-2006, 02:52 AM

Oooooook...arent you 13 or something?
I'm 16. Y?

goat89

08-29-2006, 02:53 AM

Im assuming you mean "ejected casing in the eye" because usually a bullet in the eye ends in death. And there is more **** that can go in the eyes other than an ejected casing...

And this is for a women in the civil affairs unit... so the chances of that happening is a bit more rare
Yeah I know, BUT just in case.

Nevins

08-29-2006, 02:55 AM

lol

12345

Sabre

08-29-2006, 08:09 AM

cool, didnt know there was "universial blood"

There isn't as such.

[OFF TOPIC]Type O is sometimes called the "universal donor" type, as it does not have any of the A or B surface antigens (proteins on the outside of the cell). Type A blood has 'A' antigens, type B blood 'B' antigens and type AB has both antigens. If blood with a different antigen is introduced into the body, then you may get an immune reaction.

Because group AB has both antigens, it is often called the 'universal recipient', because people with AB blood can take A, B, AB or O blood. Group A people can take A or O, but not B or AB; group B can take B or O, but not A or AB and group O can only take O blood.

There are nearly 30 different blood typing systems though, ABO is just one. There are loads of other antigens which could cause a problem and illicit a response, but generally ABO is used unless there is an indication otherwise.

The + or - thing refers to Rhesus status. Rhesus (or Rh) antigens are another protein type that can be present on a cell. If you are Rh -ve then recieving Rh +ve blood could cause a response, but this happens less often than with ABO miss-matching. The main problem is with Rh +ve fathers and Rh -ve mothers having children, as the mother may produce antibodies against her foetus which could cross the placenta.[/OFF TOPIC]

Exer

08-29-2006, 08:48 AM

I'm 16. Y?

Life or death questions, bad advice will get her killed.

Chops

08-29-2006, 09:47 AM

Goat89- button it.

Can we restrict our responses to only guys who've been in "arid non permissive environments" recently and not fantasist 16 year olds please?

Many thanks.

cosimo

08-29-2006, 10:56 AM

I'm suggesting this item because it is a really useful thing specifically for a woman. If you're a stupid kid please don't comment on it. I know several women who have used them on adventure races and they are a brilliant, cheap idea.

http://www.shewee.com/

Company can be relied on to supply goods without hassle in a timley manner.

I suppose it could make quite a novel gift.

scrybe

08-29-2006, 11:24 AM

Takes a while to sift through, but there is a good collection of information here:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=132&t=310984

(Not a vet myself, so I can't speak from personal experience.)

Nevins

08-29-2006, 06:16 PM

Thanks for clearing that up sabre

Erik2a4

08-29-2006, 08:00 PM

The equipment has pretty well been covered. But make sure she knows her basic soldier skills. I cannot stress that enough. It must be instinct.

Make sure she is at least CLS qualified before she goes. If she can get Basic EMT, or the new First Responder/TCCC standards, even better.

She should be issued the new first aid kit. At a bare minimum she should know how to know to utilize the Israeli Bandage and one-handed tourniquet. If she knows how to conduct a tension pneumothorax, insert a Hespan IV, etc., so much the better.

She should know basic map-reading on a 1:50,000 and 1:100,000 map.
PLGR Battle Drill as well.
Load, Unload, Reduce Stoppage, and Operate Small Arms. From M9 to M2 and Mk 19.
Make sure she knows the 9-Line medvac by heart. Then make sure it is pasted in an obvious location.
Make sure she knows how to operate an ASIP/SINCGARS/MBITR.

Do not let her say, "Oh, I won't be doing that." You never know what you might be doing, and who you will be working with. In her job, if the bullets start flying, I'd say that her unit was not the ones who initiated it. They will be reacting, and that isn't the time to learn.

Remember Jessica Lynch's unit? They were not prepared. They did not know their basic soldier skills (40 "warrior tasks"). May they Rest In Peace.

And if it hasn't been mentioned before, headlamps are a great tool. I use the Petzl TacTikka LED. I can't believe I went so long without one.

TehSuig

08-29-2006, 08:01 PM

Ranger's list is good for a combat soldier, but a NG Civil Affairs unit won't need 1/4th of the stuff on that list.

She needs to worry more about stuff to keep her happy on the FOB than warfighting gear. She's going to be a fobbit making PX runs, not 0200 air assaults into hostile AO's running and gunning with Haj.

Erik2a4

08-29-2006, 08:03 PM

TehSuig

08-29-2006, 10:23 PM

Just stating the facts :D

TacoDelRio

08-29-2006, 10:58 PM

They let reserve folks take CLS prior to deployment? Sorry if that's slightly off topic.

rangerone

08-30-2006, 12:04 AM

Now, now, be nice to the pogues. They have feelings too.

Hahaha. Yeah, but without us Infantry folks they wouldn't have a job ;-)

Now while I did only cover the equipment portion Erik2a4 makes a good point about knowing your common tasks. If the **** ever hits the happen (hoping it does not) you may be in a situation where you must take control and call for fire, call for medevac or man a weapon system that you are not normally used to operating. Knowing the simple things to perform these duties is absolutely VITAL!

As for blood type. On my gear/uniforms I have it EVERYWHERE! On my helmet, my boots, my t-shirts, my ACU tops. Anything to cut down on time to allow a medic to get me blood fast if I would ever happen to need it.

CLS, a great class but sometimes not everyone is allowed to be CLS qualled. I know in my battalion only 2 people are authorized to be CLS qualled per platoon. Now that doesn't mean you cannot be more knowledgable in the field of first aid. While I am not personally CLS qualled I do carry more than a standard IFAK and I know how to use every piece of med kit I carry.

And yeah, my list is extensive and more geared towards an Infantry soldier but it's a good general outline of what to take. Pick through it and adapt the list to your particular MOS.

Oh, and a lot of your 'comfort' items can be obtained at AAFES. They are now at all the major camps in Iraq. ;-)

TehSuig

08-30-2006, 12:23 AM

Only 2 CLS qual'd personnel per platoon? Geez. We shoot for 100% CLS and First Responder, but because of guys rotating in and out we have about 3 per squad...some squads have more.

rangerone

08-30-2006, 01:55 AM

Yeah... it sucks and we're trying to get it changed. But to adapt until it gets changed our CLS qualled guys and our medics are making sure every soldier knows the necessary stuff. We just don't have a fancy little certificate saying we are CLS and don't carry CLS bags except for those who went through the 'official' class.

Sabre

08-30-2006, 06:36 AM

CLS = Combat Life Saver?

What standard is this? Does it teach methods of haemorrhage control, needle thoraocentesis (chest decompression) etc?

I would agree with the medical knowledge, try to get on a course if there's time. If not then get a medic to teach you, or try to arrange teaching to your unit regarding immediate tactical field care. Although there are a lot injuries that you can do little for in the field (who either die immediately or else require surgery), you can intervene and stop that casualty from dying from a preventable cause with a simple drill and a few well practiced techniques.

Data from Iraq and Afghan shows that the causes of preventable combat death are 60% Extremity Haemorrhage, 35% Tension Pneumothorax and 5% Airway Obstruction (approx). These deaths constitute around 8-10% of total combat-related deaths and occur minutes to hours after injury. So you can see that with some good basic training that gives you the ability to recognise major haemorrhage, tension pneumothorax and an obstructed airway and which also gives you the skills to control haemorrhage, decompress the chest and open, clear and maintain said airway, then you can possibly save a large number of lives. Bear in mind, of course, that the surviving casualties who required surgery (or even those that died despite surgery) might not have survived to reach a surgical team, had it not been for immediate care by a team/platoon medic.

@rangerone: 2 per platoon? It is a requirement here that everyone does battlefield first aid (an archaic POS that ought to be replaced) which is probably lower than CLS. I would have thought that a minimum requirement would be more appropriate, rather than a capped number. Especially two per platoon. I would hope for at least one per section (squad). As you say though, it's just a case of getting round everyone and making sure they know the basics. The stats are there, everyone should be able to do address massive haemorrhage, airway obstruction and tension pneumothorax. That knowledge/skills base will save lives.

Erik2a4

08-30-2006, 08:32 AM

Sabre

08-30-2006, 08:41 AM

I'll second the basic skills too. As NG civil affairs, chances are weapon skills aren't top priority. At the very least, ensure a good zero on individual weapons and carry sufficient ammunition (ie at least 6 mags).

As for kit, Rangerone listed loads. What I'll say is know how to use everything you carry. What's the point in carrying kit you can't use properly? In the reserve forces, skill fade is a big problem. Just because you were taught something 18 months ago and did well on the testing, doesnt mean you can still do it. Get someone who knows what they are doing to tell you how item x works again, don't blagg/bluff anything.

Ensure your team does the same, standardise your kit/SOPs. If you are attached to another unit (a definate possibility for CA?) then ensure you know what their drills/procedures are, where their important kit is kept (signals, medical, ammunition) and how to operate any equipment they may have. If they use different vehicles (such as trucks etc) try to get a heads up on how to at least move it a few hundred metres.

The kit you have isn't as important as knowing how to use it correctly!

Sabre

08-30-2006, 08:43 AM

rangerone

08-30-2006, 12:10 PM

Yeah. Everyone is qualified in the standard combat first aid. It's just the CLS class that everyone hasn't attended.

Beer Monster

08-30-2006, 12:16 PM

Sabre, there is a difference between "First Aid" and what the US Army calls (or used to call) Combat Life Saver. The new standard is called Tactical Combat Casualty Care, and the goal (US Army-wide) is for everyone to qualify and stay current on the standards. I can't remember what the civilian/international equivilent is, but I will try and look it up. I "think" it's a modified version of Basic EMT with some very basic ATLS steps thrown in.

You are correct on your stats. Tension pneumothorax, tourniquet, pressure dressing, hespan, clear airway. Easy, basic skills that will save lives.

Infantry Standard is that everyone qualifies to TCCC (CLS) standards.

Thought so, basic 'first aid' as normally taught is about as useless in the battlefield as t*ts on a fish. I'm not sure what the teaching is now for regular infantry/combat arms here as I'm not in that field, but it ought to be as you say.

Ok, since I joined the British reserve forces I have done very little medical training past your regular ITD/MATTs Battlefield Casulty Drills (http://www.army.mod.uk/servingsoldier/bcdt/drills.htm). I'm sure this will get more advanced during pre-deployment training, however, if you were to come up with a list of things above and beyond the BCDs that a individual should learn what would they be? You have already mentioned the following:-

Recognising and dealing with a major hemorrhage (covered in BCDs to certain extent)
· Pressure dressings
· Tourniquet application

Dealing with a Tension pneumothorax

decompress the chest and open
clear and maintenance of airway (Guedal Airway?)Hespan (and implied IV set up)

Are there anymore?

Erik2a4 also mentioned an Israeli Bandage and one handed tourniquet (Combat Application Tourniquet?). Are these issued to US or UK forces or are they private purchases? What would you suggest as a basic trauma kit that an individual should carry on you in theater 24/7 (above and beyond that issued?)?

Its been discussed here before but I take it the training in the use of quickclot pads/sponges would also be a good idea?

Jar-mez

08-30-2006, 12:31 PM

I'll second that... IVs are often seen as key to the survival of a casualty - I think because we are conditioned by TV/Hollywood - but with a catastrophic bleed you are best off just stopping it, and keeping it stopped. ( IVs have a place in rehydration of a heat stroke casualty, but that is probably best done by people other than pre-hospital staff, as it is also potentially serious).
So long as the casualty is going to get to a surgeon within the Golden Hour, the UK thinking tends to move away from introducing fluids. There is, apparently, evidence that by raising BP by intoducing fluids you will interfere or dislodge (vital) clotting that has formed. You can survive for some time with dangerously low BP, but you can bleed out in minutes.
So knowing how to use Quickclot properly - and there is a knack to it, you don't just pour it in, you DUMP it in, and follow that up with shed loads of direct pressure - is pretty important.
But the fascination with IVs continues - possibly because it is psychologically reassuring, not least to the uninjured members of the team. I know this is the sort of thing that can spiral off into a great debate, and I'm not best placed to get involved in technical arguments - this is what I've learned as a practitioner, not a medical student.
And, a definite YES to one handed tourniquets (like the CAT) and Israel dressings.

Erik2a4

08-30-2006, 12:37 PM

Yeah. Everyone is qualified in the standard combat first aid. It's just the CLS class that everyone hasn't attended.

Old standard. New standard is for everyone to qualify on TCCC (i.e, CLS).

Of course, it may take a while to filiter down...

Right, IV's ARE being pushed to later in the treatment. The only idea being that a blood-expander apparently helps versus just a standard IV.

rangerone

08-30-2006, 02:09 PM

Old standard. New standard is for everyone to qualify on TCCC (i.e, CLS).

Of course, it may take a while to filiter down...

Yeah, I think it's a matter of time when we'll all be going to the CLS class. Just so much other unit transformation, post-deployment stuff going on right now it's probably near the end of our to-do list ;-)

Erik2a4

08-30-2006, 04:31 PM

Ok, since I joined the British reserve forces I have done very little medical training past your regular ITD/MATTs Battlefield Casulty Drills (http://www.army.mod.uk/servingsoldier/bcdt/drills.htm). I'm sure this will get more advanced during pre-deployment training, however, if you were to come up with a list of things above and beyond the BCDs that a individual should learn what would they be? You have already mentioned the following:-

Recognising and dealing with a major hemorrhage (covered in BCDs to certain extent)
· Pressure dressings
· Tourniquet application

Dealing with a Tension pneumothorax

decompress the chest and open
clear and maintenance of airway (Guedal Airway?)Hespan (and implied IV set up)

Are there anymore?

Erik2a4 also mentioned an Israeli Bandage and one handed tourniquet (Combat Application Tourniquet?). Are these issued to US or UK forces or are they private purchases? What would you suggest as a basic trauma kit that an individual should carry on you in theater 24/7 (above and beyond that issued?)?

Its been discussed here before but I take it the training in the use of quickclot pads/sponges would also be a good idea?

You may want to post these questions under it's own thread. There is a wealth of infromation on the net as well. Google Tactical Combat Casualty Care.

aclark79

08-30-2006, 08:28 PM

Thanks for the replies guys. I agree that all the basic warfighter and first aid tasks should be known, but I have no control over what her unit allows, of course I'll pass on your suggestions regarding those issues. Again its a civil affairs unit so combat isn't intended, but who knows what can happen.

So far I've got a basic list of:

Petzl TacTikka LED headlamp
Bloodtpye patches
Oregon Aero pad system for issued helmet
Specialty Defense 3-Point chinstrap
Dump pouch
Leatherman style multi-tool
Surefire G2 Flashlight
Box of 20 batteries for flashlight
Extra batteries for any other item requiring batteries
ESS Goggles
ESS Saftey glasses with shades
shemagh
Boonie hat if not issued
Good wristwatch
Knee Pads
Extra 550 cord
Gutted 550 cord
Set of gloves, aviator or hatch
extra 100 mile an hour tape
Good pocket knife
extra bic lights
couple of carabiners
Trioxianene Tabs
Gel Hand Sanitizer
Deep Woods OFF!

Of course this doesn't include entertainment items, which I'll leave up to her and my friend. Digital camera/laptop, etc.

I will also pass on the Sheewee info, its actually not a bad idea, similar to what female pilots have for long flights without a bathroom.

Keep any other ideas coming please. Deployment isn't for quite a while, so there is time to find out what her unit will be issuing and time to order the other stuff.

Seraphim

08-30-2006, 08:43 PM

Petzl Tactikka XP...one fine piece of gear.

Adam Wilhelm

08-30-2006, 08:56 PM

Good pocket knife

May i suggest a Benchmade 551 Griptilian (http://www.benchmade.com/products/product_detail.aspx?model=551)?

Good steel, ambidextrous, AXIS-lock is rock solid and not that expensive considering that you suggested a SureFire G2.

aclark79

08-30-2006, 09:00 PM

Adam Wilhelm

08-30-2006, 09:04 PM

In IMHO Benchmade is teh dog´s bollocks.
I have owned a Benchmade 520 Presidio wich have the same steel and AXIS-lock as the 551 and i loved that knife.
AXIS-lock is one if not the best locks on a folder.

Seraphim

08-30-2006, 09:05 PM

Well most of the stuff you listed she can get over there. As you said, you dont know what her unit will allow her to use so theres no point in buying a **** load of stuff.

Sabre

08-31-2006, 06:39 AM

You may want to post these questions under it's own thread. There is a wealth of infromation on the net as well. Google Tactical Combat Casualty Care.

Yep, we're probably encroaching just a little on this thread!

BeerMonster, PM sent regarding your queries.

Erik2a4

08-31-2006, 11:51 AM

Good suggestion. Cost isn't really an issue if it results in a piece of equipment that will do the job vs something that will break or fail. Of course they aren't rich and can't afford SAPI plates or MOD knives, but if it was a question of a piece of kit that she had to have, we would all pitch in and get it for her, I mean she's the going to be the wife (Sept 16th) of my blood brother... she's family.

Don't buy SAPI plates or armor. There's no need. She will be issued before entering the country. Same for IFAK, etc.

Again, use common sense. If she forgets something you can always mail it to her.

She should be able to get an idea of what she needs before she deploys during her train-up/mobilization.

Dominique

11-11-2007, 12:07 AM

Okay people, as you know, the holidays are rapidly approaching, so I’m going to ask that you take a few moments of your time to think about the many service members currently serving abroad. I’m also asking that instead of you throwing out those old books, or buying that new $180 pair of Oakley boots to look cool playing Airsoft, that you donate some gear, a used paperback, DVD, CD, magazine, etc. to the troops. It doesn’t have to be anything special, a freaking pack of Slim Jims, a used PSP game, or some DVDs out of the bargain bin will do nicely. Just contact one of the many troop support organizations, and they help you get started. It’s only going to set you back a few bucks, some you may actually have to wait till next week to pick up Halo 3, give up the super deluxe large pizza, or not that cold 12 pack of your favorite beer (the horror), but you’ll be helping out a deserving Soldier, Sailor, Marine, Airman, or Coast Guardsman, be they from the US, or one of the many countries currently serving beside us.

If possible, could one of the admins post this as a sticky?

Beowulf

11-11-2007, 12:14 AM

http://www.operationusocarepackage.org/site/pp.asp?c=ikLVJ7MSKvH&b=569653

https://www.uso.org/donate/custom.aspx?id=558

Beowulf

11-11-2007, 12:16 AM

Beowulf

11-11-2007, 12:20 AM

http://www.booksforsoldiers.com/

http://www.operationdvd.us/

Beowulf

11-11-2007, 12:20 AM

http://www.anysoldier.com/

Merfeller

11-11-2007, 12:28 AM

Another good option is to donate your accumulated airline miles to Hero Miles or The Fisher House. Let's be frank, most of us who fly fairly often have a few thousand miles in our accounts - not enough to really earn us anything. Why not donate the miles and let these organizations pool them to buy airline tickets for wounded servicemembers' families? With the holidays coming up this is an especially vital time. The program is great. They've been able to buy around 11,000 tickets since 2004. Check it out:

http://www.fisherhouse.org/

Beowulf

11-11-2007, 12:34 AM

LRPV

11-11-2007, 07:14 AM

I propose that anyone who donates, their time, money or anything to a veterans organization be given immediate access to invite only, as well as extra consideration in terms of infractions/bans.

I suppose you'd have to prove it.....

Interesting line of thought Beowulf. Snipercountry.com had a fund going several years ago. To my knowledge it was well supported, I have no idea if its still going as I swapped marksmanship sites some time ago. There was no carrot to donate other than an open acknowledgement of what was received. IIRC the USAF supplied the freighting.

Evolv5

11-11-2007, 09:32 AM

Clearday-TRForce

11-11-2007, 11:41 AM

I would like to send my many DVD's and Playstation games for donation to US troops in the region but I couldn't. Is any way in Turkey to give them?

Dominique

11-11-2007, 11:44 AM

I would like to send my many DVD's and Playstation games for donation to US troops in the region but I couldn't. Is any way in Turkey to give them?

Try the Red Cross, Red Cresent, or contacting the USO at one of the US bases in Turkey.

Evolv5

11-11-2007, 12:18 PM

I would like to send my many DVD's and Playstation games for donation to US troops in the region but I couldn't. Is any way in Turkey to give them?
I hate to say it, but I'm guessing that the US Army Playstations and DVD players are set to the "US Region" meaning that they can't play European DVDs :oops: :-( Is this the case ?

Beowulf

11-11-2007, 12:51 PM

Interesting line of thought Beowulf. Snipercountry.com had a fund going several years ago. To my knowledge it was well supported, I have no idea if its still going as I swapped marksmanship sites some time ago. There was no carrot to donate other than an open acknowledgement of what was received. IIRC the USAF supplied the freighting.

We might just go with open forum recognition, maybe auction user titles or something. I'm just trying to think of a way to encourage people to help out.

LaoSexMachine

11-11-2007, 03:42 PM

I just sponsored a care package for the USO. I will sponsor more. $25 isn't anything. I spend more at the movies.

Opening Batsman

11-12-2007, 03:33 AM

Any of these sites take paypal donations?

LRPV

11-12-2007, 08:53 AM

Let's cut to the chase. How about the mods talk in the mod lounge and produce a viable option. Otherwise no more hand cranking.

I've got $A100 to send to any fund through this site that mods can verify. No 'merit' points' needed. Just a PM from a Mod verifying it had been received.

Gents (Ladies?),
This is not just about...shall we say 'self-stimulation'. This is for our guys and girls.

I would be ecstatic to see a growing 'thermometer' of MP.net' contributions to our serving members.

Let's make us the coalition of the willing.

...and if that Mod that repealed his anti-post cares to debate it, I'll take a ban with a sense of pride.

Guys...it doesn't matter who gets our contributions, the nationality is irrelevent. What counts is we stand by our beliefs rather than posting meaningless platitudes.

Beo has put it on the table......who's in?

Dominique

11-12-2007, 12:40 PM

Gent's just one quick comment. I don't want to come off sounding like a ****, but this shouldn't be about what's in it for you. If you give, it's because you want to help, not because you think you'll get something out of it.

LRPV

11-12-2007, 12:48 PM

Dom. That's the point. The only rational reason for any public acknowledgement is to encourage other donors. Sorry, but I think some such acknowledgement is due or the program will fail.

Evolv5

11-12-2007, 02:51 PM

Sounds like a good idea. I'm sure you're able to get Paypal "donation-o-meters". Just an idea.

EDIT:
A quick "google" gave me this: http://donationbooster.com/
and this: http://donatemeter.com/

Laworkerbee

11-12-2007, 02:56 PM

Guys can we get a Paypal account set up and nominate someone to administer it?

X-mas is almost here and the clock is ticking lets get moving.

EsoognomEhT

11-12-2007, 03:15 PM

For the Brits;

http://www.boxhappy.com/pages/fullprod.php?id=930 (http://www.boxhappy.com/pages/fullprod.php?id=930)

Names/addresses can be obtained from the RBL (or I can provide you with HQ addressees for them to distribute for example)

Also just to make everyone aware that the Free Postage service to UK Troops serving in Operational Theatres has been extended for as long as we're there, so if you've got anything to donate you don't even have to pay to send it! (Just a jiffy bag etc), stuff like Magazines, books, etc...

A free parcel service for the families of British troops serving in Iraq and Afghanistan is to be extended, the Royal Mail has announced.
The service was launched in September after complaints from families and friends of the troops and was due to run out next month.

The Royal Mail said that, under a new deal agreed with the Ministry of Defence, the service will continue after Christmas and is expected to last as long as British troops are serving in the two danger zones.

Defence Secretary Des Browne said: "The introduction of free post in the summer has been a real success with both families and service personnel, and I am just delighted that we have been able to come to an agreement with Royal Mail that will ensure the continuation of this valued service.

"I am very grateful to Royal Mail for their support for our troops."

Royal Mail chief executive Adam Crozier said: "I'm very proud that Royal Mail will continue to play a key role in making it as easy as possible for families and friends to send gifts and home comforts to their loved ones in the frontline.

"The messages we've received from men and women at the front tell us how much they value parcels from home - and we're delighted to work with the BFPO to ensure a free service continues."

Over the past few weeks around 100,000 parcels a week have been sent free of postage to around 14,000 frontline personnel, providing them with gifts, non-perishable food items and home comforts.

Under the new deal, the cost of continuing the free frontline parcel scheme will be shared jointly by Royal Mail and the MoD's British Forces Post Office.

Relatives and friends can take parcels weighing up to 2kg (4.4lb) to any Post Office branch for onward posting to troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as to Royal Navy ships in the region.

Tokamak

11-12-2007, 03:23 PM

OK, I'm in. It's a great idea.

Beowulf

11-12-2007, 03:31 PM

This topic is being discussed in the mod lounge. It takes a little time because of the time zones...and because CJ is usually drunk.

Laworkerbee

11-12-2007, 03:33 PM

This topic is being discussed in the mod lounge. It takes a little time because of the time zones...and because CJ is usually drunk.

He is engrossed in a discussion now about fly rod's, booze for sure. :)

clean

11-12-2007, 04:00 PM

We could tie into an organization I work with. www.tdfoundation.org They use Kintera. I could set up a meeting with a mod and the principal of the organization. He is a retired US Army Major, wounded in Iraq.

Roy Batty

11-12-2007, 04:37 PM

For the Canucks on the board.

http://www.cfpsa.com/en/psp/amenities/opsanta/santa.asp

ABNINF

11-12-2007, 10:14 PM

fisherhouse is a good one.

Also for those still in, CFC is going on right now. Ends monday.

x2

We did a ride down to the one in San Antonio to take toys to the Wounded Warrior's kids. The Fisher houses are a good thing.

timetraveller

11-13-2007, 10:36 AM

I'm stuck on what's the best to send ..

ABNINF

11-13-2007, 11:21 AM

Anything that can be used on a daily basis. Wet Wipes, gun cleaning accessories. A couple of decent DVD movies are always good.

Dominique

11-13-2007, 11:51 AM

I'm stuck on what's the best to send ..

Here's a few ideas:

Paperbacks - Sci-Fi, Military, Fantasy, Westerns, Mystery, Horror
Magazines - Sports/Outdoor, cars, guns, gaming, music, Comic Books - and the various "lad mags" (No **** folks)
DVDs - Action/Adventure, Sci-Fi, Horror, War, Westerns, Comedies, anime, cartoons, and TV shows
Video Games - new or used PSP games
Music CDs - you send it some one will listen to it.
Board Games - Risk, Stratego, Chess, etc.
Sports Equipment - Base Balls, basketballs, etc.

Personal hygene products (tooth paste, tooth brushes, baby wipes, body wash, etc.), snacks (hard candy, nuts, gum, beef jerky, etc.), weapon cleaning gear, batteries, air fresheners, etc.

EsoognomEhT

11-13-2007, 02:14 PM

To be fair, all the people I know out there would be slightly dismayed to open a parcel to find it stacked with what they've already got in their cleaning kit timetraveller (might be different for the yanks), the rest though they would really appreciate

timetraveller

11-13-2007, 02:36 PM

Here's a few ideas:

Paperbacks - Sci-Fi, Military, Fantasy, Westerns, Mystery, Horror
Magazines - Sports/Outdoor, cars, guns, gaming, music, Comic Books - and the various "lad mags" (No **** folks)
DVDs - Action/Adventure, Sci-Fi, Horror, War, Westerns, Comedies, anime, cartoons, and TV shows
Video Games - new or used PSP games
Music CDs - you send it some one will listen to it.
Board Games - Risk, Stratego, Chess, etc.
Sports Equipment - Base Balls, basketballs, etc.

Personal hygene products (tooth paste, tooth brushes, baby wipes, body wash, etc.), snacks (hard candy, nuts, gum, beef jerky, etc.), weapon cleaning gear, batteries, air fresheners, etc.

Cheers ...

Roy Batty

11-13-2007, 05:40 PM

Dont worry to hard about DVDs to Afghanistan. The pirated copies are available there for $2 each the a week before the flick hits theaters...lol

clean

11-13-2007, 05:46 PM

Dont worry to hard about DVDs to Afghanistan. The pirated copies are available there for $2 each the a week before the flick hits theaters...lol

You talking loonies or dollars?

Don't forget the guys who are home. I'm planning on hitting the hospitals where wounded are recovering this xmas. Working on getting them some "toys."

Beowulf

11-13-2007, 09:38 PM

All right. I think the consensus is that members will simply post links to worthwhile veterans organizations and charities.

Those that contribute may simply post what they've done, not as a means of bragging but rather to encourage others to participate.

Feel free to be vague, i.e. "I gave some money to XYZ"

The concern was that we (mods/hood) didn't want to get involved in handling any money or even in verifying what people do/give.

We figure anyone willing to lie about something like that probably won't be around here very long....

clean

11-13-2007, 09:47 PM

Good idea, Beo. Help if you can or want to. Post not for glory, but as an avenue for other people to learn more about the organization, and find a new way to help. Giving is a disease. Let's spread it.

timetraveller

11-15-2007, 08:25 AM

Does anyone know the Address of the Main HQ in A-stan ??

EsoognomEhT

11-15-2007, 02:36 PM

I think the main British HQ is in lashkar gah? Not too sure..

I got Bastion, where the medical services (currently doing a great job sadly with a lot of injuries coming in)

HQ 5GSMR
Camp Bastion
Op Herrick 7
BFPO 792

If you want to send something to 2 Yorks you can do;

2 Yorks BG
Op Herrick 7
BFPO 792

Gurkhas;

1RGR
Op Herrick 7
Kandahar
BFPO772

Netfleur

11-15-2007, 03:14 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ervaMPt4Ha0

In addition to the soldiers I send letters, cards and care packages to, I donate items to a trauma hospital in Balad. I've sent essential items to them, as well as cases of Girl Scout cookies to the staff; toys, coloring books for the children. Anyway, my point is - I think anything would be appreciated by these folks if you're interested. Here's the response from an Air Force medic whom I have corresponded with:
Thank you so much for your support from home. It means so much to us to have that kind of help from the states.

A little about myself first. I am the night shift supervisor for the ICU here in Balad. We are the largest trauma hospital in Iraq and service all US soldiers, Iraqi soldiers and police as well as civilians that have been injured in the conflict here. Many times all of our 30 ICU beds are full as well as 40 of our ward beds. Our hospital has 3 OR's and 2 cat scan machines.

We receive patients directly from the site of the injury as well as patients from smaller hospitals here in Iraq. Our patient flow is very tedious and very tiring. I cannot wait to get back to my real job, so that I can relax just a little bit.

As far as items that we need, we are in need of pacifiers of all sizes, Bottles of all sizes, Diapers and clothing for children 0-6 yrs (socks, t-shirts, sweats). These are the items that I know right now we are a little short on. Used, but clean clothing is fine.

Hospital in Balad's address:
Chaplain (or "any soldier")
332 EMDG/ICU
APO, AE 09315-9997

Soldiers Angels takes Paypal. http://www.soldiersangels.org/

Another org: Treats for Troops www.treatsfortroops.com/

www.OperationUSOCarePackage.org

Netfleur

11-15-2007, 03:15 PM

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timetraveller

11-15-2007, 06:46 PM

I think the main British HQ is in lashkar gah? Not too sure..

I got Bastion, where the medical services (currently doing a great job sadly with a lot of injuries coming in)

If you want to send something to 2 Yorks you can do;

Gurkhas;

Thank you very much ..

I'll get it posted tomorrow ..

Hot Lips

11-15-2007, 10:52 PM

The concern was that we (mods/hood) didn't want to get involved in handling any money or even in verifying what people do/give.

Anyone interested could set up a charity badge on NetworkForGood.com (http://www.networkforgood.org/donate/)... they have a pretty big database of different charities to sponsor individually.

NetworkForGood.com collects the money, distributes to the appropriate organization, and tracks the amount of donations an individual has generated through their badge and how many people contributed.

So you could include a charity aspect to MP.net without being responsible for managing anything.

Lot's of military themed charities in their database and they meet the BBB Wise Giving Alliance's Standards for Charity Accountability.

Just a thought for those interested. Might be a neat way to track MP.net giving.

Sample Badge: http://www.networkforgood.org/pca/Badge.aspx?BadgeId=107701

Beowulf

11-15-2007, 11:59 PM

Anyone interested could set up a charity badge on NetworkForGood.com (http://www.networkforgood.org/donate/)... they have a pretty big database of different charities to sponsor individually.

NetworkForGood.com collects the money, distributes to the appropriate organization, and tracks the amount of donations an individual has generated through their badge and how many people contributed.

So you could include a charity aspect to MP.net without being responsible for managing anything.

Lot's of military themed charities in their database and they meet the BBB Wise Giving Alliance's Standards for Charity Accountability.

Just a thought for those interested. Might be a neat way to track MP.net giving.

Sample Badge: http://www.networkforgood.org/pca/Badge.aspx?BadgeId=107701

ahem......... http://www.****iesforbaghdad.com/

Hot Lips

11-16-2007, 01:07 AM

... as soon as Hood sets up the official Ladies of MP.net album. p-)

digrar

11-16-2007, 01:33 AM

Just PM me the pics, I'll sort it out....

Stephen~K^

11-16-2007, 02:39 AM

Let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the
nation’s wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and
for his widow and his orphan..

President Abraham Lincoln
2nd Inaugural Address

JJC

11-16-2007, 02:48 AM

I actually wanted to ask a question on this topic because there will be a collection of donations for the troops on my campus.
They say hygiene products are a always needed but is it so? Don't they have plenty enough or it's always in demand?
Also what about calling cards, what type can be sent that would work from Iraq?

timetraveller

11-20-2007, 02:46 PM

A proposal /idea

Is it possible to create a Page [ large style xmas card ] so all Members could say few words and it then emailed directly to the HQ / Field Bases In A-stan and Iraq ..

Whats the Mods and Members thoughts on this

Ps I didn't know that sending to A-stan was free ..

EsoognomEhT

11-20-2007, 03:16 PM

Also just to make everyone aware that the Free Postage service to UK Troops serving in Operational Theatres has been extended for as long as we're there, so if you've got anything to donate you don't even have to pay to send it! (Just a jiffy bag etc), stuff like Magazines, books, etc...

;)

I take it you had a nice suprise when you went to the Post Office?

..................

timetraveller

11-20-2007, 03:48 PM

True ....

SARGE!!!!

11-26-2007, 04:06 PM

I think I've done a bad thing. I accidentally sent a small amount of vodka and whiskey along with a **** mag or three......WHOOPS!!!!

EsoognomEhT

11-30-2007, 04:21 PM

http://www.theforcesstore.co.uk/index.php?act=viewDoc&docId=6

&
Whoops indeed Sarge ;)

Tokamak

11-30-2007, 05:01 PM

http://www.theforcesstore.co.uk/index.php?act=viewDoc&docId=6

&
Whoops indeed Sarge ;)

Thank you, the other webpage you put was asking me the name of a person and his rank and I don't know anybody. I think sweets will do.

Beowulf

12-13-2007, 12:29 AM

http://www.rangerup.com/operationgrim.html

BOOTNECK_RM

02-26-2008, 04:13 PM

http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk

IraGlacialis

03-21-2008, 02:56 PM

Our school had boxes set up in all the residence halls to take donations that will be shipped overseas. Sorry; I don't know what organisation, but I am guessing that they may be taken to nearby Ft. Leonard Wood.

Being a college student, my budget is a bit constrained, but this is what I donated:
Seasoning (Italian, seasoned salt, garlic salt)
4 packets of ramen (I know it seems skimpy, but I couldn't find a box)
And a small terrarium (there must be a soldier over there who has an interest in the little critters)
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7783/img4070tf7.jpg

zonk

03-21-2008, 03:51 PM

that stuff is greatly appreciated, trust me. there is a lack of seasonings over there and raamen always come in handy

Antimatty

04-04-2008, 04:40 PM

$2 from every one of my paychecks goes to maryland wounded veterans ( or something like that ) , its supposed to add up to $140 at the end of the year. its something at least.

Antimatty

05-02-2008, 04:25 AM

The 4 day pass R&R program here in Qatar can always use clothes. R&R always needs clothing donations, for young men and women, if that is something they are able to provide (long pants, shoes, belts, t-shirts (without military/US insignia), long sleeve shirts, one piece swimsuits, swim trunks). We also use snack/food donations because they are gone in minutes when we put them in our R&R break room.

Send to:
2LT Karly Mangen
ASG-QA, RRPP
Unit 514
APO, AE 09898
what about lightly used clothes?

ninetwentyfour

05-11-2008, 04:20 PM

Here is another site with veteran support information. www.theveteranfamily.org

tburgess11

07-25-2008, 02:41 PM

I want to thank everyone on here, for sending stuff to the guys. My husband is in Iraq currently, hes a member on here, although while being gone i dont think he has access to mp.net. Thanks!

tea drinker

09-23-2008, 05:20 PM

Sent a few bob to the wounded warriors... I tried usocarpackage too but it kept giving errors on my address (AVS)... outside us and canada maybe doesn't work???
I'll find another one tomorrow to send, though ****ies for baghdad is my favourite right now. :)

Stars and Stripes

10-21-2008, 09:12 PM

I frequently use anysoldier.com

Its a great site because the troops post the types of things that they need and when you send it to them your sure they will be able to use it.

I usually try to write a bunch of letters and send a few boxes a week, but its all for a great cause.

On a side note...I am in the process of running a fundraiser at my school that will have the students write letters to troops, does anyone have any ideas on how i can get more students to get involved? (i live on the east coast...and its a shame but theres alot of people who dont give to the troops because they dont support the war) Any suggestion would be a huge help. Thank you all

SandBagger

04-28-2009, 11:52 AM

would any guys like send back live bullets and stuff if you were to offer a decent trade and do you have to be US? im irish

SandBagger

04-28-2009, 12:03 PM

hows it goin man im a fellow dub in fact ive got a cup of tea resting dangerously on my laptop

L8apex

11-27-2009, 01:18 AM

If your interested in making contributions to the families of the fallen also, I would highly recommend the following:

http://www.nswfoundation.org/
http://www.frogfriends.com/

hank2222

05-27-2010, 08:41 PM

my oldest son is going back over on a another tour of the A-stan and i woundering what should i pack into the care packages for him this trip around..since reading about the area commander wanting to shut down a lot of the extras for the guys over there ..

for what i been reading the guy wants to go back to basic of no luxury items at all for the troops.. i got him a few diff things like a Itunes gift card and phone card for calling home plus some of his junk food stuff he likes along with personal grooming items i know he want ..

is the guy really going to close down the px and other areas of the personal off duty time or is that just talk about limiting what comes into the area ..for one of the articles i read about the guy he stated that he like to take the whole thing back to 2002 levels of the comfort items to have the troops more involved in fighting a war than want is on the menu at the local fast food joint there ..

so any help here would be thankfull

Ulytau

05-27-2010, 08:55 PM

Sir i believe members who been at Afghanistan will help,just wanted to say good luck to him and turn back safe.

Roy Batty

05-27-2010, 09:01 PM

From what I hear the Old Man wants the fast food joints sut down but I did'nt hear about the PX. I think they would be hard pressed to close it. Troops need basic amenities like soap, shampoo ect (not to mention that you're not going to leave female there without their "female products"). That being said it also depends where you're son is gonna be living. If he's out in a FOB or COP then he will need baby-wipes, magazines, gum, deodorant, Gold Bond Powder, books, movies, jerky is good, Gatorade powders ect.........

Hope he stays safe....

hank2222

05-27-2010, 09:12 PM

he at the biggest base in there and he stay inside the wire the whole time he there.

hank2222

05-29-2010, 12:05 AM

i just finish packing up a few items for him and a couple of the guys who going over there with him ..they sent me a list of items that they would like and i put them togerther for them and sent the packages to my son ..thanks for the info ..