Nigeria Agrees To Buy Fighter Planes From China

[J-10]

Nigeria Agrees To Buy Fighter Planes From China
Posted 09/28/05 16:03
By *******, ABUJA

Nigeria's government approved the purchase of 15 fighter and trainer aircraft from China on Sept. 28, further strengthening ties between the African and Asian heavyweights after a series of oil deals.

The cabinet agreed the $251 million purchase of 12 fighter planes and three training aircraft from China's National Aero-Technology Import and Export Corp, Information Minister Frank Nweke said.

The purchase was "to ensure that our armed forces are adequately equipped and combat-ready," Nweke told reporters.

Nigeria, Africa's most populous nation, has the continent's largest army and frequently acts as a diplomatic and military arbiter in West African conflicts.

A member of the Non-Aligned Movement, it maintains good relations with the United States and Europe but has also sought to strengthen military cooperation with fellow oil-exporter Iran and emerging nuclear power Pakistan.

On the oil front, Nigeria has made efforts to develop ties with China partly as a new market for its high-quality crude and partly because it hopes to attract Chinese investment into its malfunctioning refineries and power plants.

For its part, energy-hungry China has shown a growing interest in Nigeria's oil assets which make it the eighth-biggest exporter of crude in the world with about 2.4 million barrels per day.

Petrochina has signed a deal to receive 30,000 barrels per day from the Nigerian state oil company, while state oil firm CNPC is in talks to take stakes in Nigerian oil exploration blocks in return for infrastructure investment.

The moves are a sign that China, the second largest oil consumer after the United States, is competing to secure supplies from producers historically in Washington's sphere of influence. Nigeria is the fifth-largest supplier of crude to the United States.
http://defensenews.com/story.php?F=1141670&C=mideast

[drummerguy5]

...i wonder what fighters they are purchasing.......... Im guessing J-7 varients.........though nigerian J-10s woudl be woot


edit: well they are J-7s..... F-7NI ...will probaby be similar to teh F-7PG as this article talks about supplying the Pl-9C (python 3)

nigeria coudl have quire a nice little AF :D

http://www.flightinternational.com/Articles/2005/08/02/Navigation/193/200660/+Nigeria+rebuilds+air+force+with+%24220m+deal+for+F-7s.html

[drummerguy5]

some pics fo the AC

http://www.digiark.com/junshi/bqtk/j7/j7mg-3.jpg

http://www.china-military.org/units/images/J7/J-7G/F-7G.jpg
with pl-8s


http://www.scramble.nl/mil/7/china/gfx/photos/orbat-plaaf-jj7.jpg

[Marmot1]

mig 21 anybody?

[Hawk of prairie]

mig 21 anybody?Nope!If they want MIG21,they can negotiate with MONGOLIA absolutely!

[km5]

cheap mig 21 knockoff. virtually useless in today's battlefield. then again, if they use it to fight some rag tag african militia, it should suffice.

[drummerguy5]

suppose mature discussion is to much to ask for around here :roll:

[Laworkerbee]

Not exactly an effective CAS aircraft, but it makes one hell of a nice manned target drone.

[NicNZ]

Probably does the trick for what they need it for.

[Flagg]

$251 million for 15 Chinese aircraft?

I wonder if this is like all those Saudi arms deals...with an extra 20% markup to be blown on booze and whores :P

[SuperShot5000]

What a waste of $251,000,000. All that money for some ****ty MiG knockoffs. Oh yeah, that'll do a lot.

[Miles.]

It's probably useful if your purpose is to strafe and bomb unarmed civilians who don't agree with your regime. ;)

[Red]

A country where more that 60% live below the poverty level.Talk about morons :roll:

[drummerguy5]

Alot of the cost was due to the Pl-9C technology equipping the NI which is a heavily modified Python 3 design.

as for the childish comments about being a MiG-21 knockoff, remember that the USSR gave them the 21F-13 to the PLAAF to legitmatly produce. even though china-Ussr relations went south, the PLAAF continues to produce the 21F-13 Airframe, but constantly modified it with more powerfull radar avionics, additional hardpoints, and weapons.

It is no more a 'knock off' than the improved m-113s of the IDF.


the MG has a turn rate that supasses the F-16s, is equiped with a HOTAS and a Marconi HUD and Computer, aswell as the Griffo-M Radar (search 55km, track 37km), that in theory can operate BVR missiles. The WP-13 engine gives a thrust to weight ratio 0.9%. and a combat range of 850km. the versions can operate the Aim-9L/magics aswell as chinese indiginious designs. the aircraft also incorporates a Helmet mounted sight for use with the pl-8/pl-9 missiles, which are based on the python 3.

[I love Rachael Leigh Cook]

suppose mature discussion is to much to ask for around here

I don't know why J-10 even bothers with the children on this board. rofl

[SuperShot5000]

No one's forcing anyone to be here.

[BloodBane611]

Alot of the cost was due to the Pl-9C technology equipping the NI which is a heavily modified Python 3 design.

as for the childish comments about being a MiG-21 knockoff, remember that the USSR gave them the 21F-13 to the PLAAF to legitmatly produce. even though china-Ussr relations went south, the PLAAF continues to produce the 21F-13 Airframe, but constantly modified it with more powerfull radar avionics, additional hardpoints, and weapons.

It is no more a 'knock off' than the improved m-113s of the IDF.


the MG has a turn rate that supasses the F-16s, is equiped with a HOTAS and a Marconi HUD and Computer, aswell as the Griffo-M Radar (search 55km, track 37km), that in theory can operate BVR missiles. The WP-13 engine gives a thrust to weight ratio 0.9%. and a combat range of 850km. the versions can operate the Aim-9L/magics aswell as chinese indiginious designs. the aircraft also incorporates a Helmet mounted sight for use with the pl-8/pl-9 missiles, which are based on the python 3.

It's not going to be taking down any western aircraft, but it isn't a piece of junk either. I'm sure it's good for their purposes, but whether or not it's worth the money for what they're actually going to use it for seems unlikely.

[drummerguy5]

It's not going to be taking down any western aircraft, but it isn't a piece of junk either. I'm sure it's good for their purposes, but whether or not it's worth the money for what they're actually going to use it for seems unlikely.

exactly. conisdering the biggest threat woudl be its neibours, im sure this aircraft will be a Step up form the Mig-21MFs they had previously.

they coudl buy more hi-tech werstern fighters, btu these woudl probaby be a disadvantage in terms of matince and support (thats even if they coudl be sold them!)

great thing baout migs: :fix it with a hammer, land it in a corn field, get fueled with lighter fluid by a tech whos too drunk to care" :lol:

[Michael RVR]

They're probably laughing at you lot.

<We got 15 fighters for the price of one F-22, what a bargain! p-) >

(not to mention the booze and whores :lol: )

[Drunkensquid]

will this purchase make nigeria a regional superpower in Africa? To me it sounds like it would be money better spent on ground equipment such as tanks and apc's, cheaper to maintain and operate.

[liberation]

From what I know the Nigerians are purchasing F-811M Finback aircraft.

If the Finback has the the (Chinese) JL-10A pulse doppler fire control radar which has a look up range of 80km and look down range of 54km, then Nigeria could obtain the (Chinese) SD-10 active radar guided missile which has a range of 100km or more.

Nigeria could then dominate the skies of Black Africa.

[Misanthrope]

as for the childish comments about being a MiG-21 knockoff, remember that the USSR gave them the 21F-13 to the PLAAF to legitmatly produce. even though china-Ussr relations went south, the PLAAF continues to produce the 21F-13 Airframe, but constantly modified it with more powerfull radar avionics, additional hardpoints, and weapons.That's not the version I heard.

What I've read says that the Soviets sold the Chinese three (I believe) MiG-21s as sort of "evaluation models." Around that time is when Sino-Soviet relations broke up, so the Chinese took the MiGs they had and ran (so to speak.) They then pulled apart what they had and made copies of them.

My understanding is that everything prior to the MiG-21 was licence built, but the MiG-21 itself was not.

[drummerguy5]

From what I know the Nigerians are purchasing F-811M Finback aircraft.

If the Finback has the the (Chinese) JL-10A pulse doppler fire control radar which has a look up range of 80km and look down range of 54km, then Nigeria could obtain the (Chinese) SD-10 active radar guided missile which has a range of 100km or more.

Nigeria could then dominate the skies of Black Africa.

this was rumoured for sometime, but turned out incorrect, the aircraft are definatly of the F-7 serries

Nigeria woudl be a good contender for the JF-17, but sadly its been delayed due to modifications...this aircraft is goign to be great: the new F-5 form the east, one coudl say! :D

http://www.war-sky.com/forum/attachment/Day_050922/46_103294.jpg



What I've read says that the Soviets sold the Chinese three (I believe) MiG-21s as sort of "evaluation models." Around that time is when Sino-Soviet relations broke up, so the Chinese took the MiGs they had and ran (so to speak.) They then pulled apart what they had and made copies of them.

My understanding is that everything prior to the MiG-21 was licence built, but the MiG-21 itself was not

thsi coudl be correct, somewhat, this si what i got form sino defence:


China and the Soviet Union agreed on the transfer of the Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 fighter aircraft and the R-11F-300 turbojet engine technology in 1961. Along with the technical documents, several MiG-21F-13 Fishbed-C fighter aircraft were also handed to the Chinese. Reverse engineering work on the MiG-21 began in 1962, originally undertaken by Shenyang Aircraft Factory (now Shenyang Aircraft Industry Corporation, SAC). The Chinese-built MiG-21 took flight on 17 January 1966 and was later officially designated as J-7.

probaby a half/half. :)

[FallenAngel]

Nigeria woudl be a good contender for the JF-17, but sadly its been delayed due to modifications...this aircraft is goign to be great: the new F-5 form the east, one coudl say! :D

http://www.war-sky.com/forum/attachment/Day_050922/46_103294.jpg



If I remember correctly, the F-5 wasn't the huge success Northrop hoped it would be and the up-engined version (F-20) was beaten out at every turn by the F-16. ;)

[eATS]

that plane resembles the f-16 alot

[J-10]

Nigeria woudl be a good contender for the JF-17,

I'm not sure..., hehe.

http://mil.jschina.com.cn/up/up/20059222054160.jpg

http://images.qianlong.com/mmsource/images/2005/09/22/050921milshow37.jpg

http://images.qianlong.com/mmsource/images/2005/09/22/050921milshow36.jpg

http://images.qianlong.com/mmsource/images/2005/09/22/050921milshow34.jpg

http://www.cjdby.net/UploadFile/2005-9/20059218574239985.jpg

[drummerguy5]

hiya!

great pics j-10 :D The aircraft realyl looks alot better with the enlarged LERX and intakes. I have a feeling this will be a really good export number. Its the sorta Aircraft MiG needs to make to save is OKB @ss!!!!

pity bout the 2007 delay though :( hope some nigerial F-7 pics surface sometime soon!

the F-20 was a flop (whcih is shouldent have been) I never realyl thought much of the F-5, but its export list is impressive:

bahrain, Botswana, Brazil, Chile, Greece, Honduras, Indonesia, Jordan, Kenya, Korea, Malaysia, Mexico, Morocco, Norway, Philippines, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Spain, Switzerland, Thailand, Turkey, Tunisia, United States, Venezuela, and Yemen......all for such a crappy fighter! *ducks for cover* ;)

[Naga Sadow]

Is the J7 itself really that "****ty"? I mean, an airframe is an airframe and engines are engines.

It seems to me that it's the computers and missiles installed on a plane that really make it, more than the engines and control surfaces.

[Red]

Nigeria can't do anything with it becuase they won't be able to maintain the planes.Nigeria is the biggest joke i have seen and i feel so sorry for the people.