45 Commando Falklands

[carlis]

Dear friends: I´m looking for information about a patrol of the 45 Commando in the Falklands. The 602 argentinian comando company had a firefight on 9 June with an enemy patrol and I woul like to know if the british patrol was of the 45 commando and if they had casualties. Thank you very much. The firefight was in Two Sisters mountain.

[PsihoKeke]

Wasn't the british patrol from Cadre? They had one heavy injured and two lightly IIRC.

[Minjin]

I believe there was another user looking for info on the falklands war, perhaps you could track down that thread and get in touch with the person? Maybe you can help each other out in your respective searches

[Gordon]

http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Falklands/Mountain-Arctic-Warfare-Cadre.htm

there's a link to what I think you're talking about.

You should ask Royal about this though, he'll probably see it and post here tomorrow if he's around at the moment.

[marktigger]

was that top mallo house raid by MAWC?

Royal might be able to enlighten you.

[Gordon]

the link i gave described the top malo house raid but I don't think it was on the 9th June though.

As it is i'd only read about it somewhere and it rang a bell when I saw the post, Royal's really the man to ask.

[Royal]

2 Patrols from 45 Commando had contacts while recceing the western end of Two Sisters between the 5-7th of June. There were no own casualties. The remainder of the Argentine positions were recced by the M&AW Cadre with no contacts.

There was a 'blue on blue' on the 10th when a patrol from Y Coy fired on a Mortar troop position killing 4.

I'm not aware of any contacts on the 9th of June involving either 45 or the Cadre.

Two Sisters was defended by the Argentine 4th Infantry Regiment.

The action at Top Malo house between the M&AW Cadre and 602 Coy was on the 31st of May 1982.

[Royal]

Carlis, do you have any other interests beside SF/Commando Ops in 1982? Stamp collecting? Bird watching? Napoleonic infantry footwear?

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=132404&highlight=#132404
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=119310&highlight=#119310
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=114133&highlight=#114133
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=114128&highlight=#114128
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=63209&highlight=#63209
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=62317&highlight=#62317
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=62262&highlight=#62262

[CX20]

Carlis, do you have any other interests beside SF/Commando Ops in 1982? Stamp collecting? Bird watching? Napoleonic infantry footwear?

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=132404&highlight=#132404
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=119310&highlight=#119310
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=114133&highlight=#114133
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=114128&highlight=#114128
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=63209&highlight=#63209
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=62317&highlight=#62317
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=62262&highlight=#62262

After seeing all that, I think our friend definitely needs to get a life. Seriously.

[Gordon]

yeh, i see your point.

[Roger Rabbit]

Napoleonic infantry footwear

Souliers
Shoes in this period would be sturdy and completely made of leather. The issued infantry shoe is low, rather square and has no difference between a left and a right foot. Still, they are surprisingly comfortable. Soldiers were supposed to alternate shoes between left and right, this would avoid excessive wear. They would fasten with either a metal buckle or a bit of (leather) string (like modern shoes). The leather soles would not have much grip on wet surfaces (especially grass), so they would often be hobnailed. Apparently hobnails (clous) were specific to each army, and the patterns in which the shoes were nailed, would also differ between armies.
As shoes were the item that was fastest worn out, and armies would never have enough of them, soldiers would often use "captured" civilian shoes (there is a story of a French general threatening to loot a German town if they didn't bring him 20.000 pairs of shoes for his division), home made shoes, completely worn out shoes, held together with string, wooden clogs (sabots), tied up rags or nothing at all.

[PongoLogs]

Dear friends: I´m looking for information about a patrol of the 45 Commando in the Falklands. The 602 argentinian comando company had a firefight on 9 June with an enemy patrol and I woul like to know if the british patrol was of the 45 commando and if they had casualties. Thank you very much. The firefight was in Two Sisters mountain.
This incident was a patrol of Argie SF I thought it was the 601st but if it was 602 I stand corrected. They were recce-ing an area around Wall Mountain where 42 had an OP anyway the situ developed into a firefight with 45 Cdo. No casualties were taken by 45 and they escaped under cover of a gimpy.

There was a similar incident with 3 para who were en route to Longdon to recce the area, they ran into Argie SF and only just escaped safely near the Murrell River.

[Royal]

Carlis - in answer to your PM, I havn't read "COMANDOS EN ACCION", partly because hablo muy poco Espanol, and partly becuse I attach very little credability to the Argentine accounts of 602 Coy which claimed no serious casualties at Top Malo...

As to the SAS, every man and his dog who've seen something 'high-speed' and British from a distance thinks it's the Regiment.

PongoLogs - if you were there, I'll go with your answer. I spoke with an old mate at the weekend who was (with the Cadre) he doesn't remember any contact. If it was a long range engagement with a Gimpy from 45 that would certainly explain why it's not mentioned in 45's war diary.