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01-30-2004, 05:45 PM
U.S. Military Sure of Catching Bin Laden
By STEPHEN GRAHAM

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) - The U.S. military is ``sure'' it will catch Osama bin Laden this year, perhaps within months, a spokesman declared Thursday, but Pakistan said it would not allow American troops to cross the border in search of the al-Qaida leader.
Thursday also was one of the deadliest days for American forces in Afghanistan: Seven soldiers were killed when a weapons cache exploded southwest of the capital. Three other American soldiers were wounded and another was missing after the blast, the U.S. Central Command said.
U.S. military spokesman Lt. Col. Bryan Hilferty's prediction about capturing bin Laden comes as the Army readied a spring offensive against Taliban and al-Qaida holdouts. A U.S. official hinted Wednesday that the offensive might extend into Pakistan.
Bin Laden, chief suspect in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that sparked the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan, is believed to be holed up somewhere along the mountainous border.
Pakistani Brig. Javed Iqbal Cheema, a senior security official who coordinating counterterrorism efforts with U.S. officials, said Pakistani policies do not allow American troops to operate in the country.
The U.S. commander in the region, Gen. John Abizaid, said Thursday American forces will continue conducting ``limited military operations'' along the Afghan border, but he has no plans to put U.S. troops inside Pakistan against Pakistani wishes.
Since last month's capture of Saddam Hussein, American commanders in Afghanistan have expressed new optimism about finding bin Laden. Hilferty said the military - the United States has 11,000 men in the country - now believes it could seize him within months.
``We have a variety of intelligence and we're sure we're going to catch Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar this year,'' Hilferty said. ``We've learned lessons from Iraq and we're getting improved intelligence from the Afghan people.''
Hilferty declined to comment on where he believed bin Laden or Mullah Omar, the former Taliban leader, might be hiding.
Earlier this week, the American commander of coalition forces in Afghanistan, Lt. Gen. David Barno, told the British Broadcasting Corp. that he expects bin Laden to be brought to justice by year's end.
American forces are pinning hopes for better intelligence from Afghans on new security teams setting up in provincial capitals across a swath of southern and eastern Afghanistan.
The security teams are supposed to open the way for millions of dollars in U.S. development aid and allow the Afghan government to regain control over lawless areas largely populated by ethnic Pashtuns, from which the Taliban drew their main support.
This month alone, about 70 people have died violently, including two international peacekeepers killed by suicide bombers in Kabul. The Taliban claimed responsibility for the bomb attacks.
The spring offensive touted by U.S. defense officials Wednesday would come just when the new security teams are supposed to be up and running, and warmer weather opens the high mountain passes.
Hilferty said he could not talk about future operations.
Pakistani officials said Thursday they would not allow American forces to use their territory for any new offensive. Cheema said he had not heard of the plan for a spring offensive.
U.S. forces used Pakistani bases and airspace during the campaign that led to the ouster in late 2001 of the Taliban regime, but Pakistan insisted it only provided logistical support.
``As a matter of fact they (the United States) have not contacted us for this purpose,'' Cheema told The Associated Press.
A Pakistani intelligence official said Pakistani authorities had no specific information about bin Laden's whereabouts.
Pakistan President Gen. Pervez Musharraf, a key U.S. ally, would face withering criticism from political opponents, particularly Islamic hard-liners, if American forces deploy inside Pakistan.
Abizaid called Musharraf a ``strong ally'' of the United States and said, ``We'll help him where he wants help.
``The idea that we would work uncooperatively with the Pakistanis is not one that I'm entertaining,'' he said.
Despite periodic reports that the Taliban are making a comeback in Afghanistan, ``I believe the Taliban is in deep trouble,'' both as a military and political force, Abizaid said.
Pakistan says it has arrested more than 500 al-Qaida men over the past two years; many of them have been handed over to the United States.
Residents have reported seeing a small number of foreign personnel on such operations, but Pakistan denies it.
``We will not allow any foreign troops to conduct any operations in Pakistan,'' Pakistani army spokesman Gen. Shaukat Sultan said. ``Whenever they (the United States) ask for such thing, we always decline.''
In January, Pakistani forces raided a border village where al-Qaida fighters were believed to be hiding. The interior minister said 18 suspected terrorists were captured.





Associated Press writers Bob Burns in Washington and Munir Ahmad in Islamabad, Pakistan, contributed to this report.

-=TFN=-Karab
01-30-2004, 06:18 PM
I really dislike the Pakistani government.... Hey Hooah if we catch that terrorist bastard! :bash:

hood
01-30-2004, 06:37 PM
I'm always wary of statements that say that they'll accomplish something that's hardly a sure thing. It's always better to not say anything and let everyone be pleasantly surprised when it actually happens. I think the Saddam capture was a perfect example of this. It just suddenly happened and the world went nuts. How does it really benefit anyone with any intelligence when such statements are made...

Argyll
01-30-2004, 06:44 PM
These type of statements are usually from those not on the frontline,and who are out of the loop!,and have a nasty habit of backfiring on you!

usa320
01-30-2004, 09:30 PM
Im confident they will get him, maybe not in months, but i think this year well nab the asshole. I tell ya what it doesnt seem like its been three years already.

IMHO saying well get him this year isnt being hopeful. I think its doable. FOr one thing a major spring offensive in afghanistan is being planned, also there are good chances of SOF operating deeper into pakistan. And lastly, weve improved our ability to find and track these people. Between what weved learned in the 2 years weve been in Afghanistan, and the new strategies we used with success for finding top leaders in iraq, i think there are much greater chances of us finding him now then a few years back. However, the chances of finding him alive, are less.

California Joe
01-30-2004, 09:31 PM
I'm also confident that I shall get laid again someday......

usa320
01-30-2004, 09:33 PM
if i can get laid, i dont see anyway you couldnt.

rofl

im kidding, im not that big of a freak,

Haiw
01-30-2004, 09:37 PM
Im confident they will get him, maybe not in months, but i think this year well nab the asshole. I tell ya what it doesnt seem like its been three years already.
Yeah but it has been and every year people were sure they were gonna catch him that year...

mocking_loudly_died
01-30-2004, 09:39 PM
Send in the croc hunter.

Ian H
01-31-2004, 12:12 AM
Im confident they will get him, maybe not in months, but i think this year well nab the asshole. I tell ya what it doesnt seem like its been three years already.
Yeah but it has been and every year people were sure they were gonna catch him that year...


Ah, but there haven't been elections in all those other years.
This sounds a bit too political to me, catching B-L would get Bush another term even if he did everything else wrong from here on in, and now people are saying they are sure they'll get him this year.
Coincidence?

alphabet
01-31-2004, 12:42 AM
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usa320
01-31-2004, 01:19 AM
This sounds a bit too political to me, catching B-L would get Bush another term even if he did everything else wrong from here on in, and now people are saying they are sure they'll get him this year.
Coincidence?

No it wouldnt. Bush caught a man that the past 3 administrations have tried to catch, and it merely got him in a deeper hole. People only care about drinking starbucks, driving their SUV's and watching their satellite TV now. No one cares about the safety of this country like they should. It shouldnt take another 9-11 for people to realize we arent safe, and limp wristed democrats will only make the problem worse.

EvanL
01-31-2004, 01:38 AM
This sounds a bit too political to me, catching B-L would get Bush another term even if he did everything else wrong from here on in, and now people are saying they are sure they'll get him this year.
Coincidence?

No it wouldnt. Bush caught a man that the past 3 administrations have tried to catch, and it merely got him in a deeper hole. People only care about drinking starbucks, driving their SUV's and watching their satellite TV now. No one cares about the safety of this country like they should. It shouldnt take another 9-11 for people to realize we arent safe, and limp wristed democrats will only make the problem worse.the past three administrations did not try to catch saddam. If they wanted to, Bush senior especially wouldnt have stopped at the border.

James
01-31-2004, 01:42 AM
I'm also confident that I shall get laid again someday......

Me too.

James
01-31-2004, 01:43 AM
Send in the croc hunter.

That ninja is overkill.

LordHalbert
01-31-2004, 01:03 PM
We won't catch Osama until Pakistan gives permission to cross the border. So long as Pakistan forbids entry, Osama is safe.

Guttorm
01-31-2004, 04:22 PM
Send in the croc hunter.
I'm pretty sure Steve could cath him... :D

Haiw
01-31-2004, 05:31 PM
Let's just hope he doesn't keep his little baby in his hands while at it... :P

Falco
01-31-2004, 05:51 PM
Send in the croc hunter.
I'm pretty sure Steve could cath him... :D

That would be cool to see on animal planet

"Crickey!! What a beauty!! Did you see the teeth it has!!"

Parzival
01-31-2004, 06:18 PM
I think that man has went to Mars.

Mudcat
01-31-2004, 06:36 PM
I think that man has went to Mars.

Steve or Bin Laden?

Maybe the real reason the rover couldn't get of the platform was because Bin Ladens beard was caught up in the wheels?

SOG
01-31-2004, 08:46 PM
im sure well catch bin laden just a couple months before election time ;)

California Joe
01-31-2004, 09:00 PM
im sure well catch bin laden just a couple months before election time ;)

Check out the big brain on SOG. ;)

Osama's in Karl Rove's basement.