Marine Corps DI's & Bootcamp

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[mustamato]

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I guess he´s one scary drill sergeant if you are 18. But if you are more like 25
and has gone through some stuff in life, well. Who gives a **** about what he´s
yelling to you? I know I wouldn´t. Pvt Gomer Pyle did though.

[George W. Bush]

Oo-rah

[Magua]

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/18f0e3649705184285256d6b0076a233/$FILE/Sgt_McCloud_lr.jpg

I guess he´s one scary drill sergeant if you are 18. But if you are more like 25
and has gone through some stuff in life, well. Who gives a **** about what he´s
yelling to you? I know I wouldn´t. Pvt Gomer Pyle did though.

DIs do a lot more than yell...

Semper Fi

[DE_Six]

I guess he´s one scary drill sergeant if you are 18. But if you are more like 25
and has gone through some stuff in life, well. Who gives a **** about what he´s
yelling to you? I know I wouldn´t. Pvt Gomer Pyle did though.

Coming from someone who never went through USMC boot camp I suppose? :roll:

Combined to the fact you arrive at the Depot late at night, spend all daylight hours on the course and basically are threwn from comfortable civilian life to USMC discipline in a matter of hours, ridden of all marks of individuality, deprived of sleep and all forms of intimacy and drilled into a way of life you have no clue about?
I think you would give a ****, no matter how old you are. Everything you based your very existence on is gone, you have nothing but the Corps. It destabilizes you and then re-shapes you. And that is valid for every basic training courses in the world.

But you're above this, aren't you Mustamato, or shall I call you Superman?
Get a clue.

[bigisraeli]

I would like to know what the course of usmc incolde by weeks I mean is there a program like first week you do that and in the secound you do something else , if someone can give details about it .

[mustamato]

Coming from someone who never went through USMC boot camp I suppose? :roll:

Of course not since I´m not american, nor will I ever be one either.


Combined to the fact you arrive at the Depot late at night, spend all daylight hours on the course and basically are threwn from comfortable civilian life to USMC discipline in a matter of hours, ridden of all marks of individuality, deprived of sleep and all forms of intimacy and drilled into a way of life you have no clue about?

And that is so unique in the military, only in the USMC?


I think you would give a ****, no matter how old you are. Everything you based your very existence on is gone, you have nothing but the Corps. It destabilizes you and then re-shapes you. And that is valid for every basic training courses in the world.

It is probably more valid in conscript forces out there in the world than
in the USMC. All to my knowledge they are all volunteers and motivated.

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I´m not really saying that the USMC boot camp is crap because it obviously is not. But in each country the initial training phase is 12 weeks or something similar, and after that they should be able to do a certain amount of stuff. Such as take care of themselfes, be able to function in atleast a squad and so forth. This is pretty much the same in militaries around the world. Of course there is different approaches to do this, in countries like Sweden and Finland it´s pretty hard discipline in the beginning (yes we did stand in line while waiting for the food etc etc), but after learning to take care of yourself the military way and so forth, you are given the freedom to think. Each soldiers ability to solve the problems by thinking himself is encouraged within a certain frame (the unit).

I wonder how effective USMC discipline is in terrain like the one we have here up north (think Vietnam). In example during the second world war the finns had soldiers that were allowed to think and act within that given frame, while the Red Army soldiers certainly was not. They were ineffective especially in close combat, their will to think and to do things in such circumstances had been too suppressed. In example the Red Army soldiers had bayonets on their rifles because the regulations said so. The finns had thrown away their bayonets and fought with their knifes and handgrenades. The finn usually won. The same thing with the germans up north that were the finns allies. Their preussian discipline and Blitzkrieg-tactics were as magic in the open fields of central Europe, but up north in the close terrain where the soldiers couldn´t/didn´t dare to do anything on their own without the order/approval of their squadleader was suicidal when there could be a hardcore siberian Red Army platoon 50 meters from them behind a hill. Comparing finnish/german casualties when facing the same enemy up north is interesting, guess which one worked the best.

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Something similar from our amphibious boys:

http://user.tninet.se/~huv222o/kj/bilder/ltl.jpg
Visitation of equipment

http://user.tninet.se/~huv222o/kj/bilder/bajsgropen.jpg
Taking a bath in the poophole (it´s kind of a ditch).

http://user.tninet.se/~huv222o/kj/bilder/jagbajsgropen.jpg

http://user.tninet.se/~huv222o/kj/bilder/kjkuk98.jpg
Their combat****

http://www.amfbat.com/pictures/myhre/images/lejongrop_JPG.jpg
I guess that´s quite cold

http://www.amfbat.com/pictures/sambandspluton/images/tunnel1_jpg_jpg.jpg

http://www.jsweb.com/kj/arkivet/bilder/pannan.jpg
Pain

[DE_Six]

And that is so unique in the military, only in the USMC?

No, read further before responding. I state further down that it applies to all basic training courses in the world.


It is probably more valid in conscript forces out there in the world than
in the USMC. All to my knowledge they are all volunteers and motivated.


Being a volunteer or a conscript, motivated or not, it doesn't change a thing. Wether you want this change of lifestyle or not, you are bound to be shocked by the stark contrast between civilian life and military life. It's not something you can prepare for, no matter how bad you want it or hate it, much less know what it's like without attending. You either know what it's like or you don't. You haven't been through USMC boot camp, so you don't have the first clue about it's inner working and the effect resulting of the conditioning. So please don't give us your "enlightened" appreciation of its effectiveness.


But in each country the initial training phase is 12 weeks or something similar, and after that they should be able to do a certain amount of stuff. Such as take care of themselfes, be able to function in atleast a squad and so forth. This is pretty much the same in militaries around the world. Of course there is different approaches to do this, in countries like Sweden and Finland it´s pretty hard discipline in the beginning (yes we did stand in line while waiting for the food etc etc), but after learning to take care of yourself the military way and so forth, you are given the freedom to think. Each soldiers ability to solve the problems by thinking himself is encouraged within a certain frame (the unit).

I hope you're not writing this to make a contrast with US Marines. If you're implying that the whole Marine Corps training cursus is about basic discipline, drill and yelling, you have no idea what it entails to become a Marine. There is a reason why marines are so proud to be Marines, and that is because throughout history, and especially in Vietnam (since you seem to have some affection for that example), they have proved to be some of the toughest, most adaptable soldiers there is. The stanza "We have fought in ev'ry clime and place" in their hymn isn't there to look pretty. If there is a professional soldier out there likely to adapt and overcome by using initiative, it's the US Marine. It's institutionalized in the USMC, they have to deal with a sensibly smaller budget than their sister services.


I wonder how effective USMC discipline is in terrain like the one we have here up north (think Vietnam).

And I wonder what are you trying to prove with a question like this. The US military of the 1960s was trained to face the Soviet army on the plains of central Europe, not a grassroot guerrilla. Yet, the teachings of WW2 jungle training were still fresh. The fact of the matter is, they were not trained for this kind of war. In fact, it is safe to say no Western army could have defeated the Vietnamese on their ground. Further more, it was a war won on the political level, not the strategic one. Man for man, the US fared quite well. Only, because of the unconventional nature of the batle, the troops were demoralized, unmotivated and received little support from their own population. Bringing the cause of (political) defeat in Vietnam down to the basic training of US soldiers is ignorant.

As for your example of Finland campaigns...apples and oranges. To compare the Soviet conscript to the modern US Marine, or even modern Russian naval infantryman or paratrooper, is a fallacy, pure and simple. The levels of training are lightyears apart. Don't go there.

I think you confuse indoctrination/basic training with military doctrines. The Marine Corps boot camp is about discipline, it instills team spirit and loyalty, not fighting tactics. This comes later in the training cursus.
In fact, when it comes to small unit tactics, the USMC stands on the edge. They were among the first to emphasize MOUT operations in their training, when all experts agree that the cities are the battlefield of the future. The Marines are used to being on their own, without massive support. It is the way they have fought for most of their existence, and it shows in their operational doctrine.

How you draw parallels between the USMC boot camp and German or Soviet strategic doctrines is beyond me.

Besides, those are pictures. They do not bear the fundamentals of boot camp in themselves. You wonder about the effectiveness of yelling? I question the usefulness of a giant wooden ****. Sounds fallacious, isn't it? Don't make assumption about something you don't know based on pictures.

[DE_Six]

I would like to know what the course of usmc incolde by weeks I mean is there a program like first week you do that and in the secound you do something else , if someone can give details about it .

"Making the Corps", by Thomas Ricks, and "Into the Crucible", by James Woulfe, are pretty good accounts of Marine Corps training, as far as a civilian's perspective goes. Like anything else, nothing's as detailed as the real thing.

[Nizark]

So for drill sgt's in general, what do they need to do to become a DI? I mean besides attaining the rank of Sgt?

[mustamato]

@ DE6

So in the end of the day. Would I care if the DI yelled to my face that I was a useless piece of ****? No. And how do I know that? Well perhaps because I didn´t care when it happened to me? But oh I forgot. It wasn´t in the USMC :roll:

I guess they must ****ounce it somewhat differently or something in the USMC. They are volunteers. Just look at him who started this thread, "FutureMarine", he can´t probably wait. It shouldn´t even be any problems for him, if he don´t have all too screwed up expectations that is. I myself didn´t exactly have any plans for a military carrier, it was just something that had to be done before the University, maybe it was my lack of expectations, that made me didn´t care of their insults. Usually we just mocked the instructors afterwards and made fun of them (yes, I do know that it is intentional from their side). Combined with the fact that I (we) understood that they just had a hard ass mask and that there was a purpose with it. There was some guys that become depressed though and felt that it was like a prison (there is always the option to drop out, and 12 months of civil service). Their expectations had been a little screwed up obviously. That´s all.

And that´s is the second part of my point. Younger guys have expectations to a higher extenth ("I´m gonna be SEAL"), a little older guys are more realistic, both in their expectations and about themselfes. In general I thus don´t think that a DI would have any great effect on them (me).

[oldsoak]

Well, best do as you are told and do it well -"do it nice or do it twice" - or you get beasted or thrown out. I dont think the training is there to turn people into little robots. Its there to ensure discipline, teamwork and effort come through in sh*tty situations.

[Guttorm]

Well, Norway's military is based on conscription, but we still have some pretty mean DI's...
And The only way to please them is to do as your told...

Funny story from training...

During your training, after a while, you do guard duty. Wich includes walking around camp, checking fences and so on...

Well, in our base there was an outdoor swimmingpool, and during one of our patrols, we caught one of our DI's and a female sgt getting it on in the pool... rofl
We just, didn't let them see us, and called the CO :D

[Parzival]

Coming from someone who never went through USMC boot camp I suppose? :roll:


_________________________________

I´m not really saying that the USMC boot camp is crap because it obviously is not. But in each country the initial training phase is 12 weeks or something similar, and after that they should be able to do a certain amount of stuff. Such as take care of themselfes, be able to function in atleast a squad and so forth. This is pretty much the same in militaries around the world. Of course there is different approaches to do this, in countries like Sweden and Finland it´s pretty hard discipline in the beginning (yes we did stand in line while waiting for the food etc etc), but after learning to take care of yourself the military way and so forth, you are given the freedom to think. Each soldiers ability to solve the problems by thinking himself is encouraged within a certain frame (the unit).

I wonder how effective USMC discipline is in terrain like the one we have here up north (think Vietnam). In example during the second world war the finns had soldiers that were allowed to think and act within that given frame, while the Red Army soldiers certainly was not. They were ineffective especially in close combat, their will to think and to do things in such circumstances had been too suppressed. In example the Red Army soldiers had bayonets on their rifles because the regulations said so. The finns had thrown away their bayonets and fought with their knifes and handgrenades. The finn usually won. The same thing with the germans up north that were the finns allies. Their preussian discipline and Blitzkrieg-tactics were as magic in the open fields of central Europe, but up north in the close terrain where the soldiers couldn´t/didn´t dare to do anything on their own without the order/approval of their squadleader was suicidal when there could be a hardcore siberian Red Army platoon 50 meters from them behind a hill. Comparing finnish/german casualties when facing the same enemy up north is interesting, guess which one worked the best.

______________________________________

Something similar from our amphibious boys:

http://user.tninet.se/~huv222o/kj/bilder/ltl.jpg
Visitation of equipment

http://user.tninet.se/~huv222o/kj/bilder/bajsgropen.jpg
Taking a bath in the poophole (it´s kind of a ditch).

http://user.tninet.se/~huv222o/kj/bilder/jagbajsgropen.jpg

http://user.tninet.se/~huv222o/kj/bilder/kjkuk98.jpg
Their combat****

http://www.amfbat.com/pictures/myhre/images/lejongrop_JPG.jpg
I guess that´s quite cold

http://www.amfbat.com/pictures/sambandspluton/images/tunnel1_jpg_jpg.jpg

http://www.jsweb.com/kj/arkivet/bilder/pannan.jpg
Pain
That is the Swedish Ranger scholl.

[Parzival]

I guess he´s one scary drill sergeant if you are 18. But if you are more like 25
and has gone through some stuff in life, well. Who gives a **** about what he´s
yelling to you? I know I wouldn´t. Pvt Gomer Pyle did though.

Coming from someone who never went through USMC boot camp I suppose? :roll:

Combined to the fact you arrive at the Depot late at night, spend all daylight hours on the course and basically are threwn from comfortable civilian life to USMC discipline in a matter of hours, ridden of all marks of individuality, deprived of sleep and all forms of intimacy and drilled into a way of life you have no clue about?
I think you would give a ****, no matter how old you are. Everything you based your very existence on is gone, you have nothing but the Corps. It destabilizes you and then re-shapes you. And that is valid for every basic training courses in the world.

But you're above this, aren't you Mustamato, or shall I call you Superman?
Get a clue.
That officer or if he was a Seagrent, no matter. Has no right to punch the soldier or something like that. If you are 25 years old you got that knowledge. He would not be scary for me too.

[Dmitri]

DE6, how old are you?

As for your example of Finland campaigns...apples and oranges. To compare the Soviet conscript to the modern US Marine, or even modern Russian naval infantryman or paratrooper, is a fallacy, pure and simple. The levels of training are lightyears apart. Don't go there.
I guess thats coming from someone who doesn't know crap about it. You are ignorant, pure and simple.

[Dalleer]

http://user.tninet.se/~huv222o/kj/bilder/kjkuk98.jpg

Hehehehe, what in the name of Larry Christ is that?

[MolliG]

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/18f0e3649705184285256d6b0076a233/$FILE/Sgt_McCloud_lr.jpg

"... You had an orgasm, is that it?! You think I'm so sexy you ****ed in your trousers?!..."

Sorry; currently reading Jarhead, excellent so far :D.

;)

[NcDeuce]

Coming from someone who never went through USMC boot camp I suppose? :roll:

Of course not since I´m not american, nor will I ever be one either.


Combined to the fact you arrive at the Depot late at night, spend all daylight hours on the course and basically are threwn from comfortable civilian life to USMC discipline in a matter of hours, ridden of all marks of individuality, deprived of sleep and all forms of intimacy and drilled into a way of life you have no clue about?

And that is so unique in the military, only in the USMC?


I think you would give a ****, no matter how old you are. Everything you based your very existence on is gone, you have nothing but the Corps. It destabilizes you and then re-shapes you. And that is valid for every basic training courses in the world.

It is probably more valid in conscript forces out there in the world than
in the USMC. All to my knowledge they are all volunteers and motivated.


Stop now before you run into a fan and spew crap all over us.

[Jack Mehoff]

http://user.tninet.se/~huv222o/kj/bilder/kjkuk98.jpg

This picture scares me

[Parzival]

http://user.tninet.se/~huv222o/kj/bilder/kjkuk98.jpg

This picture scares me
Why?, Not me...........

[NcDeuce]

http://user.tninet.se/~huv222o/kj/bilder/kjkuk98.jpg

This picture scares me

The one guy with his head on the ***** is suspicious... rofl

[Parzival]

http://user.tninet.se/~huv222o/kj/bilder/kjkuk98.jpg

This picture scares me

The one guy with his head on the ***** is suspicious... rofl
You are sick... :bash:

[Haiw]

http://user.tninet.se/~huv222o/kj/bilder/kjkuk98.jpg

I suppose Seoulstriker just got himself a new wallpaper... :D

[DE_Six]

@ DE6

So in the end of the day. Would I care if the DI yelled to my face that I was a useless piece of ****? No. And how do I know that? Well perhaps because I didn´t care when it happened to me? But oh I forgot. It wasn´t in the USMC :roll:

I guess they must ****ounce it somewhat differently or something in the USMC. They are volunteers. Just look at him who started this thread, "FutureMarine", he can´t probably wait. It shouldn´t even be any problems for him, if he don´t have all too screwed up expectations that is. I myself didn´t exactly have any plans for a military carrier, it was just something that had to be done before the University, maybe it was my lack of expectations, that made me didn´t care of their insults. Usually we just mocked the instructors afterwards and made fun of them (yes, I do know that it is intentional from their side). Combined with the fact that I (we) understood that they just had a hard ass mask and that there was a purpose with it. There was some guys that become depressed though and felt that it was like a prison (there is always the option to drop out, and 12 months of civil service). Their expectations had been a little screwed up obviously. That´s all.

And that´s is the second part of my point. Younger guys have expectations to a higher extenth ("I´m gonna be SEAL"), a little older guys are more realistic, both in their expectations and about themselfes. In general I thus don´t think that a DI would have any great effect on them (me).

I agree with you that what the DI says would have little impact on your personal life per se. It's not what he says that matter. If you've been through basic training (and I take it you do), you know the yelling isn't aimed at you personally, it's there to stress you, disorient you. Same goes for sleep deprivation, constant activity, tight, carefully planned schedule. You simply don't get a rest for the first few weeks.
Will it stay on your mind, will you be crestfallen if you get smoked? I don't think so. You made fun of it afterward, well I guess that's universal. I still have a laugh with some buddies about a LCpl we had to cope with in QMB.
But I still believe the smoking was part of the process, and that it is effective. I also agree more mature individuals are less likely to be impressed, but that's beside my point. I think the smoking induces stress, not personal attacks on the individuals.
Mature, older guys may be more secure and less impressed by yelling, but I don't believe it makes them impervious to the conditioning. Stress is stress, your ability to deal with it may be independant from your age. Also, I don't know the first thing about Swedish basic, but maybe (correct me if I'm wrong) things are done differently because it is a conscript military. But I wouldn't deem it less efficient because of that, for I haven't been there to verify. I have a teacher who is former French Paras. He choosed to volunteer for it even though service was mandatory in France back then because he wanted the "real thing" while his older friends told him how easy it was to find a spot in a support unit and slack for two years.


Sorry; currently reading Jarhead, excellent so far

I really liked that book.


DE6, how old are you?
I guess thats coming from someone who doesn't know crap about it. You are ignorant, pure and simple.

I'm 23, I have (some) reserve experience and I study international relations, with a specialization in international crisis and armed conflicts. So the politics, history, sociology and even some psychology of armed conflicts are pretty much what I study all day long, seven days a week, for the most part of the year.
But none of this matter, nor does it help me in understanding your intervention, so let me figure this out:
Because I pointed out that the training level of the modern US Marines and modern Russian naval infantry (or Airborne, the two Russian units that most resemble the USMC) is much more advanced than the one of the Soviet conscript in 1939, I'm ignorant pure and simple? Please go further in your explanation/insulting, because right now, I think you are the ill-informed person here to believe that in 1939, Soviet conscripts received the level of training units like the USMC infantry would get today.


That officer or if he was a Seagrent, no matter. Has no right to punch the soldier or something like that.

Who said anything about punching? If what you mean is that since he can't physically assault the recruit he's harmless, I think it's not a problem. The smoking is not there to harm you, it's there to create stress.


I dont think the training is there to turn people into little robots.
Me neither. I agree there with you, no doubt. But it does instill a respect for order and discipline, without necessarily brainwashing the individuals.

[Dmitri]

Because I pointed out that the training level of the modern US Marines and modern Russian naval infantry (or Airborne, the two Russian units that most resemble the USMC) is much more advanced than the one of the Soviet conscript in 1939, I'm ignorant pure and simple? Please go further in your explanation/insulting, because right now, I think you are the ill-informed person here to believe that in 1939, Soviet conscripts received the level of training units like the USMC infantry would get today.

I guess I didn't understand that you actually managed to compare modern marines to russian troops of 1939!!!! :cantbeli: They damn better be more advanced than pre-WW2 soldiers. rofl I guess I missed the part where you mentioned 1939, but it really is beyond me how you would compare something modern day to something almost 65 years old

[DE_Six]

I guess I didn't understand that you actually managed to compare modern marines to russian troops of 1939!!!! :cantbeli: They damn better be more advanced than pre-WW2 soldiers. rofl I guess I missed the part where you mentioned 1939, but it really is beyond me how you would compare something modern day to something almost 65 years old

Well, I didn't in the first place, it would be somewhat pointless. Actually, my point was exactly what you just wrote, it is pointless to compare two such things, set 65 years apart, and Mustamato pointed to the campaign of Finland in 1939 as an example when questioning the effectiveness of USMC discipline today.

[Jack Mehoff]

What if there's a female Swedish Ranger. Is she going to hug that ***** too?

[George W. Bush]

Wow, lots of idiots here

[George W. Bush]

Can't even answer why you're standing next to a huge wooden ***** without getting offended.

[mustamato]

Can't even answer why you're standing next to a huge wooden ***** without getting offended.

What is so hard to understand with that? It´s psychology. I don´t know if
you suppress your instincts and so forth just because it´s politically
correct, but male aggression is sure as hell connected to the *****,
and the male *** hormons. And I don´t think it is all too serious, just
something they considered as a fun thing.

[LongWayToTheTop]

[quote="Magua"][quote="mustamato"]http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/18f0e3649705184285256d6b0076a233/$FILE/Sgt_McCloud_lr.jpg

yeah hes face is scary thats about it. :P

[Parzival]

What if there's a female Swedish Ranger. Is she going to hug that ***** too?
The Swedish Army have no female rangers but soon. I hope we got that when I join them. :D Or I can join the american army, they got a lot of sexy female soldiers :) ;)

More pics

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/d32a4a8b4dadf75e85256d1300757a43/$FILE/SSgt_Stokes_lr.jpg

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/92a80aff452c188785256dc9007b7a2c/$FILE/DI_lr.jpg

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/10a1c63cb6954c5885256d600063e3c0/$FILE/DI_SSgt_Cano_lr.jpg

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/63082ca4bd627b7d85256d4b00713ad0/$FILE/SSgt_Sakuma09_lr.jpg

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/4dcc50327e1997d985256d6b0076cc6c/$FILE/INTRO4NewRecs_lr.jpg

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/cd375e744aa37fa985256c8a005c14c9/$FILE/This%20is%20my%20riflelr.jpg

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/ae82f18a8e1b160b852568ba007e7e5e/cef7172e4798d03b85256c790059f912/$FILE/pfcrichardsonlr.jpg

[RomanS]

Can't even answer why you're standing next to a huge wooden ***** without getting offended.

And I don´t think it is all too serious, just
something they considered as a fun thing.


NOW I AM SCARED

[basket of soft kittens]

[quote=Jack Mehoff]http://user.tninet.se/~huv222o/kj/bilder/kjkuk98.jpg

This picture scares me

The one guy with his head on the ***** is suspicious... rofl


hey!!! I was wondering were that went!

[Backis]

So for drill sgt's in general, what do they need to do to become a DI? I mean besides attaining the rank of Sgt?

A natural affinity for scaring the snot outta young punks. ;)

[Backis]

That is the Swedish Ranger school.

http://www.jsweb.com/kj/arkivet/bilder/pannan.jpg

This is a typical KJ exercise (stand on your forhead and bleed until you faint basically).

"The Pit" is pretty infamous as well, exciting classes taking a dump in it before leaving for service.

Ah... the glory and joy of character-building traditions...

I didn't know those particular horrors had spread to more enlightened units. rofl


And what "Ranger school" exactly are you referring to? ;)

[Backis]

What if there's a female Swedish Ranger. Is she going to hug that ***** too?

Just for you. The term is stridskuk (literaly "battle ****"). usually they are small enough to carry since competing units try to steal those from each other during exercises.

I guess this unit had lost a couple in a row and wanted the OPFOR to have a harder time spiriting it away. ;)

[Salty Dog]

i really wish i could see the guys who said "he's not scary", or "his face is scary but that's about it", in front of that Drill Intructor.

[Jose Le Baron]

That officer or if he was a Seagrent, no matter. Has no right to punch the soldier or something like that. If you are 25 years old you got that knowledge. He would not be scary for me too.

Problem with the Portuguese Paratroppers is that the DI did yell and he DID beat the **** out of us...

[Stavka]

Here we are again, apples and pears compared beyond reason.

USMC DIs are badass. We have similar guys, but not nearly as specialised.