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CG51
10-13-2005, 09:11 AM
US mulls federal troops for bird flu quarantine (http://*******.myway.com/article/20051012/2005-10-12T192302Z_01_SCH268992_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-BIRDFLU-USA-PENTAGON-DC.html)


WASHINGTON (*******) - The Pentagon is looking at the possibility of using federal troops to enforce a quarantine in the event of an outbreak of pandemic bird flu in the United States, a senior official said on Wednesday.
President George W. Bush said last week he would consider using the military to "effect a quarantine" in response to any outbreak of avian influenza, but provided few details.
Bush at the time also suggested he might place National Guard troops, normally commanded by state governors, under federal control as part of the government's response to the "catastrophe" of such a flu pandemic.
Paul McHale, assistant defense secretary for homeland defense, said quarantine law historically has been under the primary jurisdiction of states, not the federal government.
"And my expectation is that any quarantine measures that would be put in place would likely involve a substantial employment of the National Guard, probably under command and control of the governor of an affected state," McHale told a group of reporters.
"However, we are looking at a wide range of contingencies, potentially involving Title 10 forces (federal troops) if a pandemic outbreak of a biological threat were to occur," McHale added.
The H5N1 avian influenza virus has killed or forced the destruction of tens of millions of birds and infected more than 100 people, killing at least 60 in four Asian nations since late 2003.
Experts fear that the virus, known to pass to humans from birds, could mutate and start to spread easily from person to person, potentially killing millions worldwide. Experts have questioned America's preparedness.
McHale said he believed there would be a clearer understanding within a few weeks of the military role in response to pandemic bird flu as part of a broader federal response. Pentagon officials were meeting on Wednesday to discuss the department's role in a flu pandemic.

LEGAL BARRIERS

One issue that could face the U.S. government in the event of an outbreak is whether or how to cordon off parts of the country to prevent the disease from spreading.
The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, enacted during the post-Civil War reconstruction period, prohibits federal military personnel from taking part in law-enforcement within the United States. But a president can waive the law in an emergency.
National Guard troops under the command of state governors are permitted to perform law enforcement duties, but would not be permitted to do so if they were put under federal control.
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Scary times we live in.

dunkin
10-13-2005, 10:04 AM
Let's just hope the strain doesn't make it to the U.S.

If I.C.E. does it's job, it won't.

StukaJr
10-13-2005, 04:59 PM
If the Virus is spread by birds - shouldn't the quarantine be maintained by Air Force? joking...

But seriously, the scenario resembles something that of the "Resident Evil" plot if they plan to impose a quarantine by military blockade :/ I can only imagine, that public unrest, looting and city structure collapsing would cause a lot more deaths than a stupid virus spread by birds... In the wake of Hurricaine Katrina - one should expect that Military quarantine by... 5th Day? The time it takes to circle the country Coast to Coast ten times? Some Quarantine, if you ask me...

2Sheds_Jackson
10-14-2005, 01:50 PM
Well remember that H5N1 can only spread from bird to human now. When it learns to go from human to human is when we'll all be up sh*t creek without a paddle. When that happens, it won't just be poultry workers who get sick, but every one of us. So it will be important to segregate and isolate the sick, until some kind of cure is found, or the virus mutates to a less infections/harmful form.

The way the military part of it would likely work - if the 1918 pandemic is any indication - the military would be used to enforce quarantines at hospitals, be used at certain strategic locations to maintain order. Not so much for cordoning off the US from the rest of the world. The forecast was frightening - they predict mob scenes and violence at the vaccine distribution points - and somebody is going to have to maintain order... No matter how it plays out, it's going to suck, big time.

This is a bit ironic, since it was the military that was the source of the last flu pandemic in the US.

StukaJr
10-14-2005, 06:19 PM
Thanks for clearing it up - when my imagination runs wild, it really runs wild! :)

wiking
10-15-2005, 02:12 PM
Thanks for clearing it up - when my imagination runs wild, it really runs wild! :)

Hey, what's an imagination for if you can't use it? p-)

Sounds bloody scary though. A disease with no cure (more or less) something that has not broken out majorly in damn near a 100 years or so in the western world. To say it would be bad is surely the understatement of the year.

b.scheller
10-15-2005, 02:17 PM
A disease with no cure (more or less) something that has not broken out majorly in damn near a 100 years or so in the western world. To say it would be bad is surely the understatement of the year.

Say what? Look at the Spanish Influenza, they didn't even know what it was, until, it dissapeared. That occured near the end of the first world war, and after peace had been made.

This article reminds me of the movie "Outbreak", with Dustin Hoffman, Cuba Gooding Jr., Donald Sutherland, Morgan Freeman, and Kevin Spacey. Unfortunately, it's not a movie this time.

-b.scheller