Question on Iraqi/fundy resistance loses.

[Midav]

Is there a site that shows the average weekly and/or monthly loss rate for Iraqi and fundy resistance fighters?

The US rate is about 35/month KIA. Am interested in opposing figures as well.

I checked google, yahoo, altavista etc and can't find anything.

Any help would be appreciated.

[usa320]

Seeing as one blows himself up at least once or twice a day...

And seeing as we do a good job of kicking their asses...

I am sure its significantly higher than our losses, and even more impressive is the number of low level and upper tier resistance fighters we have captured alive.

[Midav]

'Tis true about many being captured alive. There are a number.

But if possible, I need help on numbers killed, preferably from a site.

[George W. Bush]

Well.. we capture about 50 a day sometimes. There are over 12,000 detained.

I'm sure there are thousands dead. It wouldn't help us in any way to publish those numbers. Numbers don't mean crap to these cold-blooded SOBs.

[One?]

Well.. we capture about 50 a day sometimes. There are over 12,000 detained.

I'm sure there are thousands dead. It wouldn't help us in any way to publish those numbers. Numbers don't mean crap to these cold-blooded SOBs.

not all of them are insurgents. Some of them are suspects and are later released.



Seeing as one blows himself up at least once or twice a day...

where do you get your facts from?

[mustamato]

And seeing as we do a good job of kicking their asses...

So you did in Vietnam, and still you got kicked out of the country. History is repeating itself woot

[James]

And seeing as we do a good job of kicking their asses...

So you did in Vietnam, and still you got kicked out of the country. History is repeating itself :D

Mustamato,

That is a very inflammatory thing to say about the American experience in Vietnam. The United States was not "kicked out of the country". Every single time the U.S. met the Vietcong or the NVA on the battlefield, the U.S. Military won the fight. We pulled out because there was little support for the war at home. It was a political decision made by people far away from the battlefields. It was not a military defeat. I hope a few members of this site who were in Vietnam will add to this post.

I appreciate opposing viewpoints far more than many members of this site, but it doesn't do anyone any good to post things that are purely inflammatory and inaccurate.

Anyway, I hope you have had a good weekend.

[ShotOver]

mustamato, mustamato, mustamato... when will you ever learn.

Your posts are utter crap, innacurate in every way possible, and simply downright stupid.

What do you even come to this site for? If it is for pictures, then stay and look at the pictures, if it is for making innacurate and stupid posts, for the sole purpose of annoying the people that post here, simply leave. We do not want you here, and your posts and presence are not welcome.

That is all.

[ibstolidude]

And seeing as we do a good job of kicking their asses...

So you did in Vietnam, and still you got kicked out of the country. History is repeating itself woot

woot

that is a yea?

You hope the US, UK, aussie, japanese, polish, SK and others forces fail in their objectives and that Iraq falls further into chaos?

[ShotOver]

Don't bite dude, ignore it.

[Ratamacue]

Don't bite dude, ignore it.

Just like you did, eh PT? ;)

[ShotOver]

Aaah, bugger.

Oh well, that little **** should be banned anyway. He is never upto any good. Always starting fights.

[mustamato]

And seeing as we do a good job of kicking their asses...

So you did in Vietnam, and still you got kicked out of the country. History is repeating itself :D

Mustamato,

That is a very inflammatory thing to say about the American experience in Vietnam. The United States was not "kicked out of the country". Every single time the U.S. met the Vietcong or the NVA on the battlefield, the U.S. Military won the fight. We pulled out because there was little support for the war at home. It was a political decision made by people far away from the battlefields. It was not a military defeat. I hope a few members of this site who were in Vietnam will add to this post.

I appreciate opposing viewpoints far more than many members of this site, but it doesn't do anyone any good to post things that are purely inflammatory and inaccurate.

Anyway, I hope you have had a good weekend.

Actually I was a bit sarcastic to our young friend usa320. I´m very aware
of the fact that US won the battles in Vietnam. Well, atleast the big ones,
and the death toll on the vietnamese side is just statistics to use papa
Stalins word, If I remember it correctly more than one million
vietnamese died, of which a very large amount was civilians that was
killed during the christmas bombings of Hanoi with B-52 bombers and
so forth. So yep, you certainly kicked that primitive peasant countrys ass
just as you kick the Iraqis ass now. It only started to go bad when you
began to withdraw the troops. I don´t think I have to post pictures of
NVA troops entering Saigon and americans fleeing in panic, you have
probably seem them more than once anyway.

But I do think that you will withdraw the troops from Iraq due to the same
reason this time. Especially if some dude like Kerry wins the elections,
and hopefully he will. Mesopotamia has been around for a long time, and
there will be many USA before its proud and freedom-loving people will
vanish. Hopefully UN can take over the operations soon. Then there is
still hope for the future.

[ShotOver]

You just don't give up do you, your like herpes, annoying and never goes away.

Why don't you piss off, don't you have some American flag burning to do?

[Midav]

Anyway, if we could get back on topic, would be appreciated...

[Aegirsson]

I am sure its significantly higher than our losses

I would not be sure of that, since one man blowing himself up kills more than one other man.

Anyway death statistics are not really "revealant" until the end of the war.

I saw many reportages about the occupation, and there is nothing to be proud of, a lot of american soldiers are acting like children, writting "**** you" etc... on doors, showing no respect to iraqi civilians since they think they are some kind of messiah and that their invasion gives them full power...
Treating foreign journalists like **** if they don't make a good reportage about american forces being exemplar...
And i'm sure that the "colateral damages" are way more important than what is showed on tv.

Americans had promised water and electricity, but the only things that work are the petrol pumps.

[Midav]

Thanks for the opinion ;)

Now, can we get back on topic? I would appreciate it :)

[Argyll]

well to give my opinion based on whats been reported,I'd sugegest the loses are lower than the coalition as after each engagement the reported Hits/kills differs,it's like the report of the loss of 50 insurgents after one battle yet the lack of physical evidence made that report extremely sceptical to say the least!

Why do you want this info,just out of curiosity?

[ibstolidude]

And seeing as we do a good job of kicking their asses...

So you did in Vietnam, and still you got kicked out of the country. History is repeating itself :D

Mustamato,

That is a very inflammatory thing to say about the American experience in Vietnam. The United States was not "kicked out of the country". Every single time the U.S. met the Vietcong or the NVA on the battlefield, the U.S. Military won the fight. We pulled out because there was little support for the war at home. It was a political decision made by people far away from the battlefields. It was not a military defeat. I hope a few members of this site who were in Vietnam will add to this post.

I appreciate opposing viewpoints far more than many members of this site, but it doesn't do anyone any good to post things that are purely inflammatory and inaccurate.

Anyway, I hope you have had a good weekend.

Actually I was a bit sarcastic to our young friend usa320. I´m very aware
of the fact that US won the battles in Vietnam. Well, atleast the big ones,
and the death toll on the vietnamese side is just statistics to use papa
Stalins word, If I remember it correctly more than one million
vietnamese died, of which a very large amount was civilians that was
killed during the christmas bombings of Hanoi with B-52 bombers and
so forth. So yep, you certainly kicked that primitive peasant countrys ass
just as you kick the Iraqis ass now. It only started to go bad when you
began to withdraw the troops. I don´t think I have to post pictures of
NVA troops entering Saigon and americans fleeing in panic, you have
probably seem them more than once anyway.

But I do think that you will withdraw the troops from Iraq due to the same
reason this time. Especially if some dude like Kerry wins the elections,
and hopefully he will. Mesopotamia has been around for a long time, and
there will be many USA before its proud and freedom-loving people will
vanish. Hopefully UN can take over the operations soon. Then there is
still hope for the future.

Then they can get it together just like they did w/UNPROFOR
Hey how are the residents of Srebrenica these days anywho?

[khukuri]

the interesting is the figures after the take of bagdad, becuase the situation changed. I would like to see the figures after that.

[Sergei]

Well.. we capture about 50 a day sometimes. There are over 12,000 detained.

I'm sure there are thousands dead. It wouldn't help us in any way to publish those numbers. Numbers don't mean crap to these cold-blooded SOBs.

Could it be that they are fighting for their country's freedom, no? I mean wouldn't you do the same if Iraq troops invaded USA?

There can't be 12000 terrorists - some of these people just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Has this idea actually occured to you sometimes, innocent until proven guilty, no?

[George W. Bush]

Ok I guess they are freedom fighters if their idea of freedom is killing the infidels and oppressing their own citizens.