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Sierra
02-01-2004, 03:06 PM
Are they ever deployed to other countries or are they always here in the US guarding the coast/country? just curious

Ratamacue
02-01-2004, 03:09 PM
I'm not an expert but I believe many of the landing craft used in WW2 invasions were piloted by the Coast Guard. It probably all depends on the operations going on and the scale of everything.

Seiyuuki
02-01-2004, 03:10 PM
I know they are deploy abroad for sure because of some pictures I have of the USCG guarding the ports and ships in the Arabian Gulf in 91's.

Don't know the specific.

ChuckThunder
02-01-2004, 03:17 PM
I'm not an expert but I believe many of the landing craft used in WW2 invasions were piloted by the Coast Guard. It probably all depends on the operations going on and the scale of everything.

The Higgins Boats were piloted by Merchant Marines. The Coast Guard does a lot of port security overseas (Iraq) They also do some VBSS.

flickme
02-01-2004, 05:06 PM
I just saw a thing on the news about a Coast Guard PSU being deployed. PSU= Port Security Unit. So they do deploy troops.

usa320
02-01-2004, 07:02 PM
There are coast guard teams and ships in the gulf enforcing the UN oil sanctions i believe. And looking for people/weapons/money/drug smugglers.

mocking_loudly_died
02-01-2004, 08:31 PM
Beach parties.

tacticalmanta
03-27-2004, 04:36 PM
They serve directly under the Department of the Navy in a time of war. The navy is not allowed to board vessels that are known to have armed men aboard; so the USCG has deployed USCG boarding teams throughout the world to serve this mission for the Navy. The USCG is also tasked with clearing Iraq's rivers and ensuring port security around the globe.

SeanR
03-27-2004, 04:46 PM
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040323-105518-4282r.htm
http://www.uscg.mil/pacarea/news/newsreleases/2001/may/0801.htm

Check those out. America's got tons of drugs but the USCG is definitely keeping alot out.

Salty Dog
03-27-2004, 05:12 PM
They serve directly under the Department of the Navy in a time of war. The navy is not allowed to board vessels that are known to have armed men aboard; so the USCG has deployed USCG boarding teams throughout the world to serve this mission for the Navy. The USCG is also tasked with clearing Iraq's rivers and ensuring port security around the globe.

why isn't the navy allowed to board ships with armed men on them?

tacticalmanta
03-27-2004, 05:16 PM
why isn't the navy allowed to board ships with armed men on them?

Several reasons.. mostly because they command won't let them. Bascially, a lot has to do with international law and the charters that define the Navy.

The USCG has international policing rights and the US Navy does not.

tacticalmanta
03-27-2004, 05:20 PM
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040323-105518-4282r.htm
http://www.uscg.mil/pacarea/news/newsreleases/2001/may/0801.htm

Check those out. America's got tons of drugs but the USCG is definitely keeping alot out.

Yep... a lot of that is done by LEDET teams on Navy vessels. The USCG still wants to keep its "nice guy" life saving mission its main public identity. However, since the CG is now part of DHS, the focus is drastically changing towards an international LE/SRT model.

StealthMode
03-27-2004, 06:12 PM
So whats up with the first level of the Playstation 2 game: SOCOM - Navy Seals. They are Navy, and they board a ship with armed men. HUH HUH!! :bash:

scott
03-27-2004, 09:52 PM
navy boarders could be considered an act of war
theyre allowed to do vbss as much as they want against hostile declared targets

dont get me started about the international law of the war on terror and whether this counts as wartime to undermine the law of the sea

Steve Railsback
03-28-2004, 12:12 AM
The Norwegian cost guard deployed one ship to the gulf during dessert storm “KV Andenes.” And they have the same mission down there as in Norway, controlling tankers and other types of ships.

Mark Sman
03-28-2004, 12:50 AM
PSU 307 is from the area I live in.
http://www.usstopekaclg8.org/TodaysNavyPhotos/PSU307.jpg
Kuwait Naval Base, Kuwait (Feb. 22, 2004) – Crewmembers aboard a patrol craft assigned to Coast Guard Port Security Unit Three Zero Seven (PSU 307) monitor activities around Kuwait Naval Base. Supplies are being ferried ashore via Landing Craft Air Cushion (LCAC) deployed from the amphibious assault ships USS Boxer (LHD 4), and USS Bataan (LHD 5), during on-going troop rotations supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom. PSU 307 works with Navy Mobile Inshore Undersea Warfare Unit Two Zero Six (MIUW 206) to provide harbor security.
U.S. Navy photo by Journalist 2nd Class Wes Eplen.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/dot/images/psu-307.gif


http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2004/Navy/DN-SD-04-01608.JPG
The US Coast Guard (USCG) ISLAND CLASS: Patrol Craft-Large USS WRANGELL (WPB 1332) leads a Royal Navy, SANDOWN CLASS: Minehunter (second) and a Royal Navy RIVER CLASS: Minesweeper (foreground), as they escort the Royal Fleet Auxiliary (RAF), Logistic Landing Ship, RAF SIR GALAHAD (L3005), as it arrives at the Coalition secured port of Umm Qasr, Iraq, during Operation IRAQI FREEDOM. RAF SIR GALAHAD (L3005), is the first ship to deliver humanitarian supplies to the port of Umm Qasr, in support of the Operation.
Location: UMM QASR, IRAQ (IRQ)
Date Shot: 28 MAR 2003Camera Operator: PH2 BOB HOULIHAN, USN

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Feb2003/200302266d.jpg
US Coast Guard High Endurance Cutter Boutwell cruises on station in the Arabian Sea. Boutwell is currently forward deployed, conducting Maritime Interdiction Operations in the Persian Gulf in support of U.N. sanctions on Iraq. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 2nd Class, Richard Moore

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Feb2003/200302266b.jpg
U.S. Coast Guard Port Security Unit Detachment Delta patrol Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The detachment is supporting Joint Task Force Guantanamo during Operation Enduring Freedom. U.S. Navy photo by Journalist Seaman David P. Coleman.

http://cgvi.uscg.mil/preserver/views/mini/22/227499.jpg
UMM QUASR, Iraq (April 20, 2003)--Personnel from Coast Guard Port Security Unit 313, homeported in San Pedro, Ca., get lowered for patrol in the port of Umm Quasr, Iraq April 20, 2003. Coast Guard Port Security Units are maintaining security in Iraqi ports and on oil terminals in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. USCG photo by PA1 Tom Sperduto

This made news a little while ago. Cross Atlantic on 110 footers. Brown water navy goes blue.
http://cgvi.uscg.mil/preserver/views/mini/23/232039.jpg
NORFORK, Va. (June 11, 2003)--Coast Guard Cutter Dallas prepares to moor at Nauticus while Coast Guard Cutter Knight Island steers around to get to their berthing for a welcome home ceremony in Norfolk, Va. The Dallas escorted four returning 110-foot cutters for their first trans-Atlantic crossing returning from supporting Operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom. USCG photo by PA1 Kimberly Smith

Gulf War I
http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/1991/Navy/DN-ST-91-11381.JPG
Gunner`s Mate 3rd Class Matthew Groenewold, Boatswain`s Mate 1st Class Glenn T. Wade and Machinery Technician 3rd Class Eric Glenn, members of the U.S. Coast Guard Law Enforcement Detachment (LEDET), stand by aboard the guided missile destroyer USS WILLIAM V. PRATT (DDG-44) prior to inspecting the Turkish freighter Rize K., the first vessel approved by the United Nations to deliver humanitarian aid to Iraq. LEDET team members are helping the Maritime Interdiction Force enforce U.S. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Location: RED SEA
Date Shot: 01 JAN 1991Camera Operator: PH2 MILTON SAVAGE

http://www.specialoperations.com/USCG/PSU/cg-foal2k.jpg


I guess we were mostly talking about USCG, and these are Canadians, but dam what a cool photo. I was raised on boats, and I've been in water this rough and even worse before. But I have seen some pictures of Coast Guard guys out in stuff that you would need shotgun in your hand to get me out on.
http://nfo.dodmedia.osd.mil/VIS/2002/Air_Force/DF-SD-02-03552.JPG
During rough waters and Swirling winds, Canadian Port Security Unit 4, Esquimalt, British Columbia, does a high speed pass during patrols in the waters of Ketchikan, Alaska, in support of Exercise NORTHERN EDGE 2001. Northern Edge is Alaska`s premier joint training exercise. There are over 10,000 military members from North America participating in the exercise and it will lasts for two weeks. (SUBSTANDARD)
Location: ALASKA (AK) UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (USA)
Date Shot: 27 MAR 2001Camera Operator: SSGT COHEN YOUNG, USAF


http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/Munro.html

Cheers all

Steve Railsback
03-28-2004, 08:16 PM
http://www.funnysnaps.com/coastguard.jpg

woot woot