Where's The Jumpers?!?

[Yeoman]

Just wanting to know who's para qualified and for which country in here.
I've got my basic para in Canada. I'm trying to find out how the hell I can get my US para wings as well, so for all you yanks that roam the board, give me a shout will ya? I'll buy you a case of beer for your trouble.
Greg

[Beowulf]

Well, you should have some regs regarding foreign wings. This seems to be a good explanation of US policy:


http://www.bragg.army.mil/aas/MJM%20JUNE%202003.doc

Earning foreign jump wings is an excellent way to bolster morale and build esprit de corps between jumpers from different countries. Prior to conducting these operations; however, numerous requirements must be met.

First and foremost, you must have approval from the appropriate ADC for all foreign jumps. Foreign jumpers exiting from USAF aircraft must also be approved through the G-3 Air by the Commander AMC. This process may take a few weeks so, if possible, aircraft should be JA/ATTed for this purpose.


If a foreign nation is providing the aircraft, there are other requirements, which must also be met which vary depending on which nation is providing aircraft. If jumping from US aircraft, a minimum of 1 paratroop door must have a foreign jumpmaster and each paratroop door must have an American safety. Either American or foreign jump commands may be used, however, these commands must be briefed during mock door training and rehearsed until everyone completely understands them.
If jumping from foreign aircraft, you must have a minimum of two jumpmaster-qualified jumpers per aircraft. The jumpers must also receive orientation on all procedures used by an American jumpmaster. This includes, but is not limited to, mock door training and pre-jump.
If the foreign jump originates at Ft. Bragg or Pope AFB, the foreign jumpmasters must attend certification / refresher training conducted by the United States Army Advanced Airborne School Cadre. The length of this training may vary depending on the level of the foreign jumpmaster’s proficiency, but it usually lasts between 2 to 3 hours.
Contact the United States Army Advanced Airborne School no later than 3 days prior to the airborne operation to schedule this training. In addition to these requirements all foreign jumpmasters and jumpers must attend Basic Airborne Refresher conducted by the host nation. A Fitting and Wearing / Buddy System period of instruction must be taught by the United States Army Advanced Airborne School cadre. This training should be requested well in advance to ensure instructor availability and adherence to unit timeline.
Gaining approval for a foreign jump is a lengthy process, and requests need to be turned in early to allow time for the USAF approval. The number of foreign jumpers will go in the remarks block on a normal JA/ATT request. This request must be turned in 90-120 days out. Any requests submitted within 90 days will be disapproved.

[Yeoman]

interesting.
I've spent that past week for that god damn info. hell I can re-freshed pretty damn easily, but who do I get into contact with down in the states then? I mean I can get approved and all that easily, I just need to know who to get into contact down there now.
right on thanks for the info.
Greg

[Beowulf]

interesting.
I've spent that past week for that god damn info. hell I can re-freshed pretty damn easily, but who do I get into contact with down in the states then? I mean I can get approved and all that easily, I just need to know who to get into contact down there now.
right on thanks for the info.
Greg
I would suggest using your own chain of command.

[Dave the Dawg]

I have jumped with a half-dozen or so countries, but the only two I have the hooah badges and the paperwork for are the US and Germany.

[HumanShield]

im gonna be a jumper....does that count? US Army

[maw]

are you active service? what kind of wings?
are you looking for some sort of trans-national, inter-service jump program with a military certificate? if so i can't help.

i'm not military, but if you're interested in halo/haho certification, i'm working on mine (done the chamber ride and need a couple (2 to be precise) more night jumps before i can proceed).

if you're interested pm me, i can put you in touch with some great guys. i'll be around for about two more weeks.

[Nizark]

I'm only a civilian jumper woot

[WARPIG]

All American here!
Just a little tid bit for the non-paratroopers. Skydiving is only like paratrooping in the tool that is used to slow the decent to the ground. Not too many skydivers jump at night with 100-150% of their bodyweight strapped on. The static line extraction and low altitude are the biggest difference. It is about an 8 second adventure if your chute does not open. I am not HALO qualified but I imagine that it is more like the skydiving experience.

Ever notice that we wear Jump"wings" because we are trained to abort flying and fall instead?

There are always international exchanges with US paratroopers. As you have heard from many people here, most of the info should come from your end. If you can get into an exchange program to Ft. Bragg, there is a high probability that you will get to do a US jump. Also, Ft. Benning, where the jump school is. Even though the mission op tempo is likely high considering our current involvements overseas, there are several units coming home and will likely be scheduled for some moral building training events.

[fantassin]

Try these links if you want to get the Dutch wings.

http://herbertholeman.com/para/events/texel03.php

http://pct.absolutions.nl/content/opleidingen/militair.asp?PAG=PG1

It's the "Paracentrum Texel" and they used to award the dutch para wings after 5 static line jumps in the past; maybe they still do it.

[Uncle Sam]

I've got U.S., British, and Jordanian. (all from the Military)
People hold jumps all the time for foreign wings...Just don't know where??

[JiJoMacLE45]

I got into civvie sport jumping for a while, but when a guy burned in at my local jump club, I changed hobbies. Work is dangerous enough, I don't need to go gettin' dead on my day off. Mom would be pissed.

[Jeff White]

I have my British, US and German wings.

To be honest I'm not 100% clear on the UK regs on qualifying details for wearing other countries wings. I think they just left it up to the host nation to decide whether you were entitled to wear them :D that said for both my US and German wings I did five jumps (and a further 3 on a second trip to the US).

Visitors to the UK tended to do anything from 2 - 5 jumps from ballon, chopper or aircraft to get our wings.

[Royal]

I have my British, US and German wings.

To be honest I'm not 100% clear on the UK regs on qualifying details for wearing other countries wings. I think they just left it up to the host nation to decide whether you were entitled to wear them :D that said for both my US and German wings I did five jumps (and a further 3 on a second trip to the US).

Visitors to the UK tended to do anything from 2 - 5 jumps from ballon, chopper or aircraft to get our wings.

The last balloon jump in the UK (military) was back in '95 (more's the pity), the familarisation jump's done from a Skyvan (at least it was the last time I was down there) the other 7 from C130's. No. 1 PTS still run all UK jump training out of RAF Brize Norton.

You should have 8 UK jumps to wear the UK wings (or SAS wings for that matter - it's the same basic course).

[Jeff White]

Royal

We used to get the guys from the 82nd Airborne, 75th Rangers, 272 Fallschrimjaeger and French Para's on exchange trips. They would come over to Aldershot and do a brief intro into our kit and drills then off to Salisbury plain, Otterburn or Sennybridge to jump and do live fire ex.

We also did Coy exchange trips with the Germans on a regular basis the parachuting tended to get in the way of the drinking if you get my drift :D

[Royal]

We also did Coy exchange trips with the Germans on a regular basis the parachuting tended to get in the way of the drinking if you get my drift :D

Aye, I catch it...

;)

[Tane Angle]

US Army, first qualified many moons ago. p-)

[Haiw]

US Army, first qualified many moons ago. p-)
Back in the previous century you mean? :P

[Beowulf]

US Army, first qualified many moons ago. p-)

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=FIRST+PARACHUTE+PICTURE/v=2/l=IVS/*-http://www.173rdairborne.com/images/Da_Vinci_1485.jpg

:lol:

[11F5S]

US Army, first qualified many moons ago. p-)

If you jumped anything more modern than a C-47 or C-119 during jump school you're just a kid. :lol:

[11F5S]

oops

[Yeoman]

okay just talked to the chain of command, if I can get some colonel or some big head down there to approve, he'll approve, and so on and so on. so hey, if you just *happen* to know some big head officer, just ask em about it. I don't care if he's a logistics colonel, redleg, whatever so long as he's a jumper, and says I can go to benning.
there's alot of people on here and a couple nationalities jumpers, cool stuff. nice to know we're alot more common then I think.
Greg

[Nizark]

is it possible for civilians to get military wings in competition? I know of a team in california who trained with a latin american military para team, and they were all awarded the para wings from that company.[/i]

[Tane Angle]

rofl That's good stuff, guys. 11F5S, I actually have jumped out of both those types of aircraft, but yeah, I'm relatively just a youngin'. :D

[Yeoman]

yeah there's companies that do tours of countries and you can get their wings. like holland, poland, couple other countries. it's tempting, but I'm passing on that for now.
My Sargeant-Major just approved of it. I can pass along his e-mail for proof that he's US jump master qualified, and when he did his course and what not. So if any of you boys are holding back, get ahold of me. I've got everything sorted out on this end as best as I can, I just need some senior officer to go "sure come on down"
Greg

[James]

US Army, first qualified many moons ago. p-)

If you jumped anything more modern than a C-47 or C-119 during jump school you're just a kid. :lol:

11F5S earning his wings...

http://www.imageshack.us/files/airborne.JPG

:P

[11F5S]

rofl