Dutch Navy

[DvdW]

Hi, This is my first topic (I hope this isn't a repost)

One of our 4 new ships of the "Zeven Provincien" Class
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/dezeven/images/DeZeven_1.jpg-.jpg

Same
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/dezeven/images/DeZeven_2.jpg-.jpg

Same
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/dezeven/images/DeZeven_5.jpg-.jpg

Our New LPD. The "Rotterdam"
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/rotterdam/images/rott19.jpg

Same
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/rotterdam/images/rott6.jpg

Same
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/rotterdam/images/rott3.jpg

A ship of the "Karel Doorman" Class
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/karel/images/karel2.jpg

A Dutch submarine of the "Walrus" Class
http://www.marine.nl/images/OZB%20scherm_tcm10-4551.jpg

Same
http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/boats/images/submarines/boat_dolfijn4.jpg

Dutch Marines during their mountaintraining
http://www.marine.nl/images/marns_1mb_bt05_p1010028_tcm10-17149.jpg

Dutch Marines
http://www.korpsmariniers.com/albums/CAVDKM/GPMG_20team_jpg.jpg

Dutch BBE-Marines (anti-terror unit)
http://www.korpsmariniers.com/albums/CAVDKM/9_9909_185_BBE.sized.jpg

Dutch Marines during Jungletraining
http://www.korpsmariniers.com/albums/CAVDKM/7_9811_068_jungletraining.sized.jpg

Same
http://www.korpsmariniers.com/albums/CAVDKM/16_r0211_49w_8_jungletrain.sized.jpg

[Frost]

Ah, lovely. I worked for the RNLNavy for half a year and I will apply for a job in the RNLMC early january next year, so needless to say I LOVE these pictures. Great job and thanks for posting

[kayaker]

Am i right in saying that the Dutch build the majority of their own naval ships?
Brilliant pics, thanks for posting. And welcome to the community!

[sp2c]

yes at this point only hrms Pelicaan (light tender is the English term I think) is not built in Holland

M frigates
http://www.marineschepen.nl/marschepen/images/0005-00013-M_fregat.jpg
http://www.marineschepen.nl/marschepen/images/200010-122_MFregat.jpg
http://www.marineschepen.nl/marschepen/images/vangalen.jpg

Submarine Tender hrms Mercuur
http://www.marineschepen.nl/marschepen/images/mercuur.jpg
http://www.marineschepen.nl/marschepen/images/mercuur2.jpg

hrms Johan de Witt's unfinished hull seen through hrms Zeeleeuw's Periscope
http://www.marineschepen.nl/marschepen/images/johandewittzeeleeuw.jpg

[Doomsayer]

Ah, lovely. I worked for the RNLNavy for half a year and I will apply for a job in the RNLMC early january next year, so needless to say I LOVE these pictures. Great job and thanks for posting

Yes, we build the ships ourselves in Holland. Also our submarines, we have the best diesel powered submarines of the planet. We even "sank" the USS Nimitz during an excersize.

Holland was also the first country with marines.

[DvdW]

Holland was also the first country with marines.
Yes, they were founded in 10 december 1665

[Stovepipe]

[QUOTE=Doomsayer]We even "sank" the USS Nimitz during an excersize.
[QUOTE]

Other NATO countries regulary sank the Nimitz. ;) I remember German Marine also sank the Nimitz during DESEX2001 with an old U206 class submarine...

I really like the dutch navy, in the past i were often at the open days in Den Helder ("Open Flootendagen"... i hope spelling is correct, if not, wilt u dat even opschriven, astublieft?)

Do you also have photos of the Amsterdam, which i also visited in Den Helder?

[DvdW]

I really like the dutch navy, in the past i were often at the open days in Den Helder ("Open Flootendagen"... i hope spelling is correct, if not, wilt u dat even opschriven, astublieft?)

You mean the Vlootdagen of Dutch Royal Navy ;)

I saw some old pictures of Dutch Marines in the Dutch East Indies just after WW2
http://www.marine.nl/images/MARNS%20-%20NL-Indie%20in%20dekking%20350_tcm10-14566.jpg

http://www.marine.nl/images/MARNS%20-%20NL-Indie%20doorwaden%20350_tcm10-14563.jpg

http://www.marine.nl/images/MARNS%20-%20NL-Indie%20verkenning%20350_tcm10-14565.jpg

[ranger75bn]

very nice ships and soldiers pics http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

tnx for sharing :hug:

[Frost]

Wow, nice set f photos added sine the last time I looked. Good job guys!! :) Unfortunately I don't have any photo's of my own so I can't post those. I never had my camera with me.

Those M-Frigates are still some of the most beautifull ships we own. The L-Frigates and S-Frigates were also beautifull, but unfortunately those are all gone now. The new LCF's lack a soul. Those are floating bricks, although I must admit they are very capable of chrashing a party.


@DvdW
Nice set of old-time pictures. They are also printed in a book I have that was given to veteran-marines after the war. As a reminder to what they did out there. My grandfather did some fighting on Java (dutch east indies, now indonesia)

[Frost]

Yes, they were founded in 10 december 1665
As a strong supporter of the RNLMC and a Marine-wannebe I would very much like to confirm that we were the first nation to have a Marine Corps, but unfortunately the honor goes the Great Britain. The Royal Marines were founded on October 28, 1664.

I do believe The Netherlands were the first to actually use specialized soldiers on ships (Marines), but the actual Marine Corps was founded later.

[sp2c]

coolest Dutch navy ship in history

http://www.nederlandse-marine.nl/afbeeldingen/scheepsafbeeldingen/c801_de_ruyter.jpg
c801 De Ruyter

[kayaker]

We have a Navy to be proud of. Twice defeating the Spanish. And (nearly) all our ships are build by Dutch companies. Which is more than can be said about the British - their two latest ships will be build by France in France AFAIK. Sad as they too have such distinguised naval history.

[Brookes]

coolest Dutch navy ship in history
c801 De Ruyter


Why is that? Because it looks good or does it have an impresive history?
Tried googling it bt couldn't find any interesting stories about her..

[sp2c]

yeah because of the looks, our navy's last cruisers (with her sister) I think she's called Almirante Grau these days and serves Peru

[OldRecon]

As a strong supporter of the RNLMC and a Marine-wannebe I would very much like to confirm that we were the first nation to have a Marine Corps, but unfortunately the honor goes the Great Britain. The Royal Marines were founded on October 28, 1664.

I do believe The Netherlands were the first to actually use specialized soldiers on ships (Marines), but the actual Marine Corps was founded later.



... This was certainly true of Colonel Lyttleton, who in 1666 was commanding Landguard fort across the river Orwell from Harwich, its three batteries on projecting ramparts, covering the approach to this harbour and dockyard. These defences would be tested the following year, after Dutch Marines came ashore. They had allready attacked ships and harbours in the Thames estuary, where Sir John Griffith's company among others held them from the Gravesend anchorage by his 'new line of batteries' with some 80 guns. Expecting further landings on the east coast, the English had concentrated six companies of the Regiment at Harwich. They were not kept waiting long, fon on 1 July 1667 a Dutch fleet of over 40 ships anchored off the port beyond the range of Landguard Fort, while English blockships across the Orwell were prepared for scuttling.
At dawn next day the Dutch fleet weighed anchor, running north-east past Felixstowe before turning back towards Harwich. They had the advantage as in those days (before troops could be moved quickly over land) a seaborne force might be put ashore virtually unopposed in landings where the defenders could not be concentrated. This the Dutch did, coming 'within half a cannon shot ... below Filstowe Cliffe (sic)', that is: 1.5 km or so off the beach south of Felixstowe and still out of range of Landguard Fort. Here in the early afternoon they put ashore 3,000 men, while eight or more ships engaged the Fort and sent clouds of smoke on the northerly breeze to blot out the garrison's view of the landing.
Five hundred Dutchmen climbed to higher ground beyond the cliff, where they positioned two 3-pounders to cover the lanes and hedgerows leading to the woods above their beachhead. By four o'clock the local militia were advancing in close order against this defence, but the English cavalry could not deploy in the woods and Dutch pikemen stood off the militiamen.
Meanwhile several hundred Hollanders marched briskly along the coast track, cutlasses drawn, to come out of the smoke at Landguard Fort. They were met by the steady fire of two companies of the Admiral's regiment, who held the attackers for half an hour, preventing them putting their 7-metre scaling ladders against the walls before they withdrew. For some time they recovered their breath in the cover of sand dunes near the Fort and were peppered by shot from three small English ships. About 5.30 the raiders made a second assault but were again repulsed, the garrison apparently making a sally, for the Dutch retired in haste, leaving ladders, grenades and 'a case of very handsome pistols' as they retreated in some disorder along the Salt Road up the coast. Nevertheless the Dutch beachhead was maintained until the early hours of next morning, as the flood tide did not float off their ships' boats until 2 am. They lost over 150 killed but there had been only six casualties in the Fort, despite the bombardment and infantry attacks.


Must have been one of the last instances, bar the German occupation of the Channel Islands, of enemy soldiers setting foot on the British Isles :roll: ?

[Stovepipe]

Hr.Ms. Amsterdam, on dutch a "Bevoorrader", don't know how it's called in english, in German it would be "Versorger".

Having a RAS:
http://www.marine.nl/images/RAS%20CV%20bird_tcm10-7090.jpg

http://www.marineschepen.nl/marschepen/images/mc_04_amsterdam_02_eugenio.jpg

http://www.marineschepen.nl/marschepen/images/9612-57.jpg

http://www.marineschepen.nl/marschepen/images/pcd1930.jpg

http://www.marine-vbd.freeservers.com/adamgroot.jpg

[larryzou]

I LOVE these pictures. Great job and thanks

[DvdW]

Here are some more pics taken during the "Nationale Vlootdagen"

A dutch submarine
http://image28.webshots.com/29/7/40/97/261274097GCXSRJ_ph.jpg

Our new LCF's
http://image34.webshots.com/34/8/27/79/261282779mMSLSh_ph.jpg

Same
http://image34.webshots.com/35/8/47/98/261284798xpXdmX_ph.jpg

the NH-90
http://image60.webshots.com/60/2/35/97/398223597oGYffL_ph.jpg

A few of our mineswepers
http://image53.webshots.com/53/3/45/28/398234528DQroHZ_ph.jpg

Same
http://image51.webshots.com/51/3/47/32/398234732FwbBVK_ph.jpg

A diver under a helicopter of our Navy
http://image63.webshots.com/163/0/86/75/399208675UzXOSD_ph.jpg

Dutch BBE units freeing a "hijacked" ship
http://image64.webshots.com/64/1/40/48/399214048xPugqH_ph.jpg

Dutch marines
http://image54.webshots.com/154/2/95/4/399229504gUFJEQ_ph.jpg

Same
http://image50.webshots.com/150/3/1/96/399230196otKDHl_ph.jpg

Same
http://image56.webshots.com/56/3/8/80/399230880sZqIuv_ph.jpg

[sp2c]

Hr.Ms. Amsterdam, on dutch a "Bevoorrader", don't know how it's called in english, in German it would be "Versorger".

Having a RAS:

fleet replenishment ship

[mmackem]

Must have been one of the last instances, bar the German occupation of the Channel Islands, of enemy soldiers setting foot on the British Isles


There was the French 'invasion' of 1797 :)


THE FRENCH INVASION OF FISHGUARD



The annals of history record the name of Hastings as the site of the last invasion of Britain by French, well Norman, forces in 1066. True, this was the last successful invasion. However, little is reported about the French invasion of Fishguard, which took place in southwest Wales in 1797, nor of the brave resistance offered by "Jemima Fawr" (Jemima the Great), who single-handedly captured twelve of the invading soldiers.

In 1797, Napoleon Bonaparte was busy conquering in central Europe. In his absence the newly formed French revolutionary government, the Directory, appears to have devised a 'cunning plan' that involved the poor country folk of Britain rallying to the support of their French liberators. Obviously the Directory had recently taken delivery of some newly liberated Brandy!

The French invasion force comprising some 1400 troops set sail from Camaret on February 18, 1797. The man entrusted by the Directory to implement their 'cunning plan' was an Irish-American septuagenarian, Colonel William Tate. As Napoleon had apparently reserved the cream of the Republican army for duties elsewhere in Europe, Colonel Tate's force comprised of a ragtag collection of soldiers including many newly released jailbirds. Tate's orders were to land near Bristol, England's second largest city, and destroy it, then to cross over into Wales and march north onto Chester and Liverpool. From the outset however all did not proceed as detailed in the 'cunning plan'. Wind conditions made it impossible for the four French warships to land anywhere near Bristol, so Tate moved to 'cunning plan' B, and set a course for Cardigan Bay in southwest Wales.

On Wednesday, February 22, the French warships sailed into Fishguard Bay, to be greeted by canon fire from the local fort. Unbeknown to the French the cannon was being fired as an alarm to the local townsfolk, nervously the ships withdrew and sailed on until they reached a small sandy beach near the village of Llanwnda. Men, arms and gunpowder were unloaded and by 2 am on the morning of Thursday, February 23rd, the last invasion of Britain was completed. The ships returned to France with a special despatch being sent to the Directory in Paris informing them of the successful landing.

The French invasion force upon landing appear to have run out of enthusiasm for the 'cunning plan', perhaps a result of those years of prison rations, they seem to have been more interested in the rich food and wine the locals had recently removed from a grounded Portuguese ship. After a looting spree, many of the invaders were too drunk to fight and within two days, the invasion had collapsed, and Tate's force surrendered to a local militia force led by Lord Cawdor on February 25th, 1797.

Strange that the surrender agreement drawn up by Tate's officers referred to the British coming at them "with troops of the line to the number of several thousand." No such troops were anywhere near Fishguard, however, hundreds, perhaps thousands of local Welsh women dressed in their traditional scarlet tunics and tall black felt hats had come to witness any fighting between the French and the local men of the militia. Is it possible that at a distance, and after a glass or two, those women could have been mistaken for British army Redcoats?

During their two days on British soil the French soldiers must have shaken in their boots at mention of name of "Jemima Fawr" (Jemima the Great). The 47-year-old Jemima Nicholas was the wife of a Fishguard cobbler. When she heard of the invasion, she marched out to Llanwnda, pitchfork in hand and rounded up 12 Frenchmen. She brought them into town and promptly left to look for some more. - Men of Harlech meet your match!

http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/fishguard-french-invasion-tapestry.jpg
http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/Wales-History/Fishguard%20Tapestry.jpg

[OldRecon]

Was this the infamous "Tate rebellion" (or something like that...)?

[VanLeeuwen]

yeah because of the looks, our navy's last cruisers (with her sister) I think she's called Almirante Grau these days and serves Peru


Yeah, I was at the navy for the Oriëntatiedagen (Oriëntation days) and saw the Almirante leave the dock, and I saw some Peruan officers walking about for a couple of days.
It was fun at the navy, I (and offcourse the rest of my team!!) did pretty well at the amphibic-cross) but I think I'm going to join the Army *har har*

I had a great time in Den Helder and even got a compliment from some Sergeant-Major from the Marine Corps, which is good `cause it goes on the record for when I'm going to apply for the real army hehe :D

[Xlimit]

Hello, i have some pictures of the Dutch navy.woot

Some of our new LCF's
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/XLimit/LCF20vogel_tcm10-4298.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/XLimit/7PRV20-20helidek_tcm10-4295.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/XLimit/ZEPROV9a.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/XLimit/10007_tcm6-36292.jpg

Multipurpose Frigate
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/XLimit/20_vanNes.jpg

And the LPD Hr. Ms Rotterdam
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/XLimit/Enforc2.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/XLimit/marns_uknl_groot_tcm10-4120.jpg

[Kekkonen]

And the LPD Hr. Ms Rotterdam

http://www.amf4.mil.se/images/local/040614_len.jpg

http://www.amf4.mil.se/images/local/040614_lastbil.jpg

http://www.amf4.mil.se/images/local/040614_entry.jpg

http://www.amf4.mil.se/images/local/040611_inpassering.jpg

http://www.amf4.mil.se/images/local/040614_3strb.jpg

http://www.amf4.mil.se/images/local/040614_rotterdam.jpg

http://www.amf1.mil.se/images/local/gus-fc-welldeck_640.jpg
PJ Bindt, commander of the ship, atleast when the photo was taken

[sp2c]

we seriously need to built our own combat boats :)

[Kekkonen]

we seriously need to built our own combat boats :)

They are designed to operate mainly in the Swedish archipelago with shallow waters, tens of thousands of rocky islands and what not, the speed and the enviroment is used as protection. I´m not so sure if the Dutch Marine would like to assault anything with that one. In its basic configuration it´s made of aluminium and can be sunk by a kid with a slingshot.

[sp2c]

I was thinking more along the lines of a deployment against drugrunners in the west or pirates in the east. I know it's scary for these types to see a 122 meter long frigate in hot pursuit of their rubber go-fast but assault boats would be more effective imo

you'd have a fast ship with a reasonable amount of firepower and a number of marines on board for boardings and all that ... shiver me timber!

[Kekkonen]

I was thinking more along the lines of a deployment against drugrunners in the west or pirates in the east.

you'd have a fast ship with a reasonable amount of firepower and a number of marines on board for boardings and all that ... shiver me timber!

Yeah well, a batallion of soldiers, supported by helicopters and three fast patrol boats, could be quite effective against Somali pirates and people like that. I must admit that you have an impressive ship, but what the hell does Hr Ms Rotterdam mean? I think of Herr Mrs all the time.

There is an armoured version of the combat boat 90, that can be armed with an over-head weapon system. You should write to your guy in the parliament and propose three of this one. Maybe Herr Mrs Rotterdam could take up to six combat boats if rebuilt a little.

http://www.amf1.mil.se/images/local/brasilien18.jpg
CB 90HS with LEMUR over-head weapon system

http://www.amf1.mil.se/images/local/brasilien12.jpg

[foxtrot023]

As a strong supporter of the RNLMC and a Marine-wannebe I would very much like to confirm that we were the first nation to have a Marine Corps, but unfortunately the honor goes the Great Britain. The Royal Marines were founded on October 28, 1664.

I do believe The Netherlands were the first to actually use specialized soldiers on ships (Marines), but the actual Marine Corps was founded later.

Wrong, Spanish Marines were born in 1537. That is why it is the older Marine Corps in the world. Among their ranks, great men (D. Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra)... and women fougth making a history still unended.

And Spain and the Netherlands have had 2 close projects the FFG project together with Germany and the LPD project from which we got the Castilla class and you got the Rotterdam

good pics btw

[sp2c]

Yeah well, a batallion of soldiers, supported by helicopters and three fast patrol boats, could be quite effective against Somali pirates and people like that. I must admit that you have an impressive ship, but what the hell does Hr Ms Rotterdam mean? I think of Herr Mrs all the time.

Her Majesty's

And I assume you know Rotterdam is a port city that looks like Copenhagen except less clean and you'll be harder pressed to find little mermaids ;)


There is an armoured version of the combat boat 90, that can be armed with an over-head weapon system. You should write to your guy in the parliament and propose three of this one. Maybe Herr Mrs Rotterdam could take up to six combat boats if rebuilt a little.


my guy in parliament doesn't listen to me unless it saves lots of money

[DvdW]

The Dutch submarine "de Zeeleeuw" flying a special flag: the Dutch Navy Ensign (In dutch: De Geuzenvlag):
http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/pictures/images/zeeleeuw2/boat_zeeleeuw2_cork_6oct_7oct_2001.jpg

[Hertog jan]

Wrong, Spanish Marines were born in 1537. That is why it is the older Marine Corps in the world. Among their ranks, great men (D. Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra)... and women fougth making a history still unended.

And Spain and the Netherlands have had 2 close projects the FFG project together with Germany and the LPD project from which we got the Castilla class and you got the Rotterdam

good pics btw

The Corps was founded on 10 December 1665 by the unofficial leader of the republic Johan de Witt and Admiral Michiel de Ruyter.

It is claimed that the Netherlands Marine Corps is the second oldest military unit in the world that is still in existence (after the Vatican's Swiss Guard).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_Marine_Corps

The dutch marines are the second oldest military unit that is still in existence.
But The spannish claim that there Marine corps is older, so I'm not sure.

[sp2c]

well technically the regiment Huzaren van Sytsema can be traced back to 1577 but it had a different name back then and the baron Sytsema wasn't even born back then ;)

[foxtrot023]

The Corps was founded on 10 December 1665 by the unofficial leader of the republic Johan de Witt and Admiral Michiel de Ruyter.

It is claimed that the Netherlands Marine Corps is the second oldest military unit in the world that is still in existence (after the Vatican's Swiss Guard).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_Marine_Corps

The dutch marines are the second oldest military unit that is still in existence.
But The spannish claim that there Marine corps is older, so I'm not sure.

Officially they are recognize as the oldest marine corp due to being created by royal decree specifically as marine infantry (as opposed to naval infantry or sailors armed like infantrymen) by Charles I in 1537. Among the first battles they fought on were Lepanto.

regards,