Whoa, just re-watched We Were Soldiers..

[stateofequilibrium]

And when the gung-ho Lieutenant died, his pupils dilated! I was impressed.

[AFG]

speaking of that movie, does anyone know the name of the drum intro (after the french soldiers get ambushed and the credits roll)

[SpetsnazAlfa]

speaking of that movie, does anyone know the name of the drum intro (after the french soldiers get ambushed and the credits roll)

Yep. I have it right here, let me look it up for you... **** I cant find it... Its a whole osng like 6 minutes long. Just try your local illegal MP3 downloading software.

[flickme]

R u talking about the same song they play when theyre flying in on the choppers and it kinda sounds lika a an irish song. He says something about a "cold cold culdron" or somtin along those terms.

[NcDeuce]

And when the gung-ho Lieutenant died, his pupils dilated! I was impressed.

Which gung-ho Lt.?

The young religious guy? The super gung-ho one that yells and gets ambushed? The ex-SF one?

BTW, I thought the Sarge was badass. And Barbara is quite good looking. ;)

[Gringo]

That movie was crap. The detail about the guys eyes, yeah whatever, what about the end with those Hueys with the Mini-guns in firing at the NVa, the mini-gun wasn't even in-country in 1965.

[buckeyedoc]

BTW, the name of the song is "Sgt. MacKenzie". Awesome song!!!

[flickme]

That movie was great. And i thought they had a some miniguns in hueys. Im pretty sure they did. Yeah that is a good song.

[SpetsnazAlfa]

BTW, the name of the song is "Sgt. MacKenzie". Awesome song!!!

Nah, thats the song they play at the end when the UH-1's are ripping apart the VC.

I personally cried during this movie. It was so horrible. Think of what it must have been like in real life. I salute all the Vietnam vets here for endurign such a terrible nightmare. Oohrah.

[ChuckThunder]

BTW, the name of the song is "Sgt. MacKenzie". Awesome song!!!

Nah, thats the song they play at the end when the UH-1's are ripping apart the VC.

They were NVA, not VC.

[Nondescript]

I personally cried during this movie. It was so horrible. Think of what it must have been like in real life. I salute all the Vietnam vets here for endurign such a terrible nightmare. Oohrah.

I couldn't stop a few tears from falling either. The thought that many of those men who fought so bravely and paid the ultimate price weren't older than I am, that somehow got to me.

If you liked the movie read the book, I thought it was great. It also gives a more accurate description of the battle. Towards the end of the film Hollywood starts to shine through.

ISBN 0-06-050698-9

[SpetsnazAlfa]

I personally cried during this movie. It was so horrible. Think of what it must have been like in real life. I salute all the Vietnam vets here for endurign such a terrible nightmare. Oohrah.

I couldn't stop a few tears from falling either. The thought that many of those men who fought so bravely and paid the ultimate price weren't older than I am, that somehow got to me.

If you liked the movie read the book, I thought it was great. It also gives a more accurate description of the battle. Towards the end of the film Hollywood starts to shine through.

ISBN 0-06-050698-9

I was amazed that it brought tears to my eyes. Could I endure this in real life if I couldn't bear to watch

[Nondescript]

I personally cried during this movie. It was so horrible. Think of what it must have been like in real life. I salute all the Vietnam vets here for endurign such a terrible nightmare. Oohrah.

I couldn't stop a few tears from falling either. The thought that many of those men who fought so bravely and paid the ultimate price weren't older than I am, that somehow got to me.

If you liked the movie read the book, I thought it was great. It also gives a more accurate description of the battle. Towards the end of the film Hollywood starts to shine through.

ISBN 0-06-050698-9

I was amazed that it brought tears to my eyes. Could I endure this in real life if I couldn't bear to watch

Well I have no experience whatsoever of being in battle. But I think if you're ever in a situation like that, you'll force yourself to bear with it, either from fear of letting your buddies down or pure survival instincts. It would be interesting to hear what a real soldier would have to say about this.

[Gringo]

I hated the film, I'd say it was enjoyable however I did find it disrespectful when the Colonel was making the speech and stole the qoute from the Charge of the Light Brigade.And all the family BS pissed me off also.

[Nondescript]

I hated the film, I'd say it was enjoyable however I did find it disrespectful when the Colonel was making the speech and stole the qoute from the Charge of the Light Brigade.And all the family BS pissed me off also.

What's the matter, you can't take a little bit of propaganda.

[kutter]

the mini-gun wasn't even in-country in 1965.

Actually the mini-gun was in country by 1965. The AC-47 Gunship was armed with three mini-guns was accepted into service in 1964 and were first deployed in Vietnam in October of that year. It probably wouldn't be too much of a stretch to start putting it on Hueys.

[Merik]

Ahh yes but the particular mini-gun that was put on the Hueys is not the same one as the AC-47s weapons platform. The one that Screaming Eagle is talking about is the M-158 system with the 7-shot rocket pods and mini-guns. And it wasnt in country till around 1966.

I couldnt stand the F-100 scenes with the napalm cause it was a bunch of crap, the parts with them calling in artillery was crap, the scene were they initial assault force went NOE was crap, so the whole movie was crap. The only reason why I like it is because its a Vietnam movie and there are not that many of them. Other than that it was totally crap.

[NcDeuce]

Sergeant Ernie Savage: Beautiful morning, Sergeant!
Sergeant Major Basil Plumley: What are you a ****ing weatherman now?



Lt. Colonel Hal Moore: I wonder what was going through Custer's mind when he realized that he'd led his men into a slaughter?
Sergeant Major Basil Plumley: Sir, Custer was a pussy. You ain't.


Galloway is on the ground
Sergeant Major Basil Plumley: You can't take any pictures from down there, son.
Galloway gets up and is handed a rifle
Joseph Galloway: I'm a non-combatant.
Sergeant Major Basil Plumley: Ain't no such thing today.


Sergeant Major Basil Plumley: If any of you sons of bitches calls me grandpa, I'll kill you.

Priceless

[NcDeuce]

Trivia about We Were Soldiers [2002]:

The entire film was digitally color corrected at full 2K resolution.

Col. Moore has been said to be mightily motivated to not repeat what happened to a previous 7th Cavalry unit at Little Bighorn. However, his courage, drive and support of his men while grossly outnumbered was 'right out of the book' of the commander of a different 7th Cavalry (Tenn), Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest.

Keni Thomas, who acted as both a military/technical advisor and an extra to this film, fought in Mogadishu with the 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment in 1993, the battle depicted in the film Black Hawk Down (2001).

875,000 feet of film was shot - roughly 150 hours. It took the editing team 6 days - day and night - to watch it all.

During the last year of the production, sound engineer, Steve Bartkowicz, consulted the Frederick Military Academy Alumni Webmaster, Richard W. Abrams (uncredited), to determine which French bugle call would have been played during the opening masquer sequence. For historical accuracy, Richard was also called upon to determine if the bugle call would have remained the same today as in the year the masquer. The bugle call was found on a French military web site and forwarded to Bartkowicz.

The French bugler shot in the beginning is writer/director Randall Wallace's real-life son.

[Nondescript]

Galloway is on the ground
Sergeant Major Basil Plumley: You can't take any pictures from down there, son.
Galloway gets up and is handed a rifle
Joseph Galloway: I'm a non-combatant.
Sergeant Major Basil Plumley: Ain't no such thing today.

Thats Hollywood for ya. When Joseph Galloway arrived at the battle-scene he already carried a M-16, which he had been given by Charlie Beckwith after the Plei Me fight was over.


Galloway told Beckwith that, stricktly speaking, under the Geneva Convention he was "a civilian noncombatant." Beckwith's response: "No such thing in these mountains, boy. Take the rifle."

But that scene does look good in the movie.

[Armour recon]

Sergeant Ernie Savage: Beautiful morning, Sergeant!
Sergeant Major Basil Plumley: What are you a ****ing weatherman now?

:D

[Sir Zach of R.]

WWS vs. BHD. Who will win?

[Gringo]

I hated the film, I'd say it was enjoyable however I did find it disrespectful when the Colonel was making the speech and stole the qoute from the Charge of the Light Brigade.And all the family BS pissed me off also.

What's the matter, you can't take a little bit of propaganda.

That is why I didn't like the film, it was pure "God bless america" propaganda bull****

[Beowulf]

What did he quote from Charge of the Light Brigade?

[kutter]

Ahh yes but the particular mini-gun that was put on the Hueys is not the same one as the AC-47s weapons platform. The one that Screaming Eagle is talking about is the M-158 system with the 7-shot rocket pods and mini-guns. And it wasnt in country till around 1966.

Ah, I see, thanks for the eye opener. BTW, I've never seen the movie so I can't comment on it but after watching the commercials I was kinda turned off since it made the movie look too patriotic. I'll watch it one day though.

[Nondescript]

WWS vs. BHD. Who will win?

BOB :D

[NcDeuce]

Thats Hollywood for ya. When Joseph Galloway arrived at the battle-scene he already carried a M-16, which he had been given by Charlie Beckwith after the Plei Me fight was over.



You are correct...
http://www.lzxray.com/pleime1.jpg
MAJ Charlie Beckwith shown in 1965 while in 5th Group...former 327th Infantry, wasn't he?

[Nondescript]

You are correct...
http://www.lzxray.com/pleime1.jpg
MAJ Charlie Beckwith shown in 1965 while in 5th Group...former 327th Infantry, wasn't he?

Well I don't know about former, but I do know that he took command of the 327th Infantry (2nd batalion 101st Airborne) in '68. He was assigned to the 82nd Airborne up until '58 before joining the Special Forces, I don't know which regiment.

[German_American]

The book is very good, I have a reletive that was there and he is mentioned often in the book around pages 90-118. His name is Russel Adams and he was a Machine gunner. He held off the enemy with Bill Beck with his M-60. Them and a few other machine gun crews fought off the enemy for hours. Then in the book at a very gut wrenching part Russel is hit in the head from enemy fire. Beck saved his life by firing the M60 and bringing Russ back for medical attention. You can see Adams and Beck at the end. Beck is wheeling Russ in a hospital. I was kind of pissed off when I barly saw any of the M60 crews in the movie when in the book there is many pages on them. I dont know if this guy is a relative but he still has the same last name as me. Warren Adams was in the book, he was a first sergeant and was kind of significant to the book. The movie could have been about 5 hours longer. My dad missed that battle he saw some action later as a medic.

[Merik]

Ahh yes but the particular mini-gun that was put on the Hueys is not the same one as the AC-47s weapons platform. The one that Screaming Eagle is talking about is the M-158 system with the 7-shot rocket pods and mini-guns. And it wasnt in country till around 1966.

Ah, I see, thanks for the eye opener. BTW, I've never seen the movie so I can't comment on it but after watching the commercials I was kinda turned off since it made the movie look too patriotic. I'll watch it one day though.

Dont have to watch the movie for that, just know your helicopters and equipment ;)