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He219
02-03-2004, 11:19 AM
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Graf Spee to rise from her grave (http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=132732004)

ALLAN HALL IN BERLIN


BY THE time the Allied warships spotted the smoke rising from its funnels as it sped over the horizon, the Admiral Graf Spee had already sent nine merchant navy vessels to the sea bed.

Feared by mariners and hailed as one of the greatest ships of the German fleet, the "pocket battleship" with its oversized guns was no mean target as the Allied navy prepared for battle off the coast of South America.

In what was to become the first great naval battle of the Second World War, the Graf Spee took on three Allied ships on 13 December, 1939, and crippled one before being hit and later scuttled by its captain to settle in the thick mud of the River Plate.

Now, 64 years later, a team is about to begin work raising the legendary warship and turning it into a floating museum, a salvage operation to be filmed by Titanic director James Cameron.

The battleship, which had been dispatched to hunt down vessels from the British merchant navy, was defeated when it was attacked by three warships from the British and New Zealand fleet.

The Graf Spee was spotted by ships from the British navy’s South American cruiser squadron which engaged the German battleship as it crossed the River Plate between Argentina and Uruguay.

With its huge 11in guns, the Graf Spee could easily outgun the lightly armed Allied ships and crippled the HMS Exeter but received 20 direct hits from the Exeter, HMS Ajax and New Zealand’s HMS Achilles.

Holed on its port side, the Graf Spee limped into port at neutral Uruguay for repairs, rather than run the risk of making for Argentina, a German ally.

Under the rules of war, a warship could spend no more than 72 hours in a neutral port and after that time had passed the Graf Spee headed back to sea to face the gathered blockade of Allied ships.

But having shuttled most of his seamen ashore, German Captain Hans Langsdorff gave the order for his skeleton crew to abandon ship and scuttled the battleship four miles off shore rather than allow it to fall into Allied hands.

That night Captain Langsdorff shot himself in the head.

Since then the ship has rested four miles off shore and just eight metres below the surface, cloaked in the thick mud of the River Plate.

Now, a consortium led by Hector Bardo, a 43-year-old German financier and enthusiastic diver, has raised the money to attempt to bring the ship to the surface and turn it into a museum piece in Montevideo, Uruguay.

Floating cranes have been moved into place on the river and the salvage attempt is set to begin on Thursday.

"One of the biggest problems we will have to deal with first is clearing out an estimated 8,000 tonnes of mud from the river bottom which has silted throughout the ship," said Mr Bardo.

"We aim for a total restoration, with the ship then going on display for all time in the National Marine Museum. "The front of the ship is broken off and lies in a 39-metre segment. The rest of the ship is in a 146-metre piece."

The team has assembled state-of-the-art computer equipment to aid them in their underwater search for debris - and to attach the mammoth steel cables which will encircle the ship’s carcass prior to raising attempts - because visibility is down to inches.

Many of the German survivors from the ship stayed on in Argentina and Uruguay after the end of the war and one has been invited to witness the start of the salvage operation, which is expected to take several months to complete.

Friedrich Adolph, 84, the last of the surviving German seamen, said of Captain Langsdorff: "He didn’t want us to be killed. But we respected his decision to take his own life. It’s the tradition, a captain dies with his ship."

Speaking at the naval museum in Montevideo, a retired naval captain, Ricardo Barre, said: "The battle of the River Plate was fought by gentlemen of the sea.

"Langsdorff sank merchant ships, but always picked up the crews.

"Several of the British captains he rescued went to the funerals of the 36 German sailors who were killed.

"He preferred to save his young sailors’ lives rather than sacrifice them for the fatherland in a battle he could not win."


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HMS Exeter

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HMS Ajax

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HMS Achilles equipped with Walruses of 720 and 700 sqdns 1939-1943 at Montevideo, 1939

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Graf Spee


In the heavy engagement with the 3 allied cruisers, the Graf Spee received 20 hits, and 36 crew members were killed, 60 wounded. Langsdorff decided to disengage from the battle and head to the neutral port of Montevideo in Uruguay, to seek shelter and to repair some of the serious battle damage inflicted.
The sailors of the merchant vessels, who were taken aboard before their ships were sunk, were set free.
Although the ship was still able to fight, the holes caused by the hits would make it questionable how the ship would encounter heavy weather at sea. An additional problem was that one of the hits had destroyed the kitchen and bakery of the ship which made it almost impossible to feed its crew. These damages could not repaired by the crew while at sea. Initially, he was granted shelter 24 hours in the Uruguayan port as allowed by international law. By Urugayan Presidential decree, it was then extended another 72 hours. He tried to prepare for the inevitable conflict with the Royal Navy ships that had gathered outside.

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The 320 crew members of the Graf Spee were allowed on land in full uniform for the burial of the 36 fellow crew members that were killed during the battle in the day before. Everyone brought the nazi salute, amazingly even the priests. Captain Langsdorff brought the navy salute.

In the meantime after having refueled in Rio de Janeiro, another British task force of five warships including the aircraft carrier Ark Royal was ordered direction Plate River to join the three cruisers for the kill of one single enemy prey.


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Thousands of spectators watched from the waterfront in Montevideo.


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Three days after the Graf Spee scuttle, Capt. Langsdorff committed suicide with a shot to the head in his room in the Navy Arsenal in Buenos Aires. He had dressed himself in full uniform and positioned himself on the "kaiserlichen Reichskriegsflagge" (Imperial German flag without the swastika).

Langsdorff's funeral was attended by many. He was an example of the last signs of chivalry in the era of mass murder.

Seamen from both sides of the war and local dignitaries paid their last respect to Capt. Langsdorff in a funeral with full military honors.

http://www.ocean98.org/spee.htm

oldsoak
02-03-2004, 01:47 PM
A brave and humane man. I trust he is suitably commemorated in Germany ?

LeMat
02-03-2004, 02:48 PM
Very strange idea. I think it will cost horrible money. Maybe it will be cheaper to build a replica of Graf Spee? Ship which was underwater for 65 years will be in very bad condition. I doubt if it will be possible to rebuild it.

Loco
02-03-2004, 03:19 PM
Graff Spee is sunk in La Plata estuary, not deep waters. As I know, may be I´m wrong, the high structure of Graff Spee appeared over water when the tidy was off, and it was an obstacle to navigation, so a big part of the ship was salvaged many years ago by an argentine private company owned by a man of basque surname, but again, may be I´m wrong. It was the years of war and good metals were scarce in Argentine in that time and it´s said that Graf Spee 1ºclass metal was used by Ballester&Molina, an argentine subsidiary company of spanish Hispano-Suiza which made hand guns those years, perhaps this is false, but there are a lot of legends about that ship in SAmerica. What it´s true is that the a big group of crew were sent to a village inside Argentina, I think in Cordoba province, they were given the chance of getting argentine nationality and the most of them did it, and they built a town that is a coppy of an alpine german town, but in S.America! Their descendants are integrated with argentine people and they even celebrate the Oktoberfest.

He219
02-03-2004, 04:44 PM
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Divers Set to Salvage German WWII Ship

On Thursday, they will attempt to raise the range finder, a component 34 feet wide and 20 feet tall that held the first radar antenna installed in a warship.

The team will study how to lighten the Graf Spee until they can raise the ship's hull, which is in two pieces, one 490 feet long, the other 98 feet long.

The divers declined to discuss the cost of the project, but they say they are working to bring on salvaging experts from Brazil, Argentina, the Netherlands and perhaps Germany. The ship will remain in Uruguay.

"It will be rebuilt on land and will be the best ship museum in the world," said Bado. "This is the last salvageable German battleship in the world and it has an amazing story."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040203/od_nm/warship_dc_1

Chris196
02-04-2004, 02:59 AM
I never understand these ship raising plans. Call me wierd, but I believe they belong where they fell.

Argyll
02-04-2004, 07:07 AM
I never understand these ship raising plans. Call me wierd, but I believe they belong where they fell.

Yes for ships lost in combat I agree,but since the Graff Spee was scuttled,and she was evacuated then It's perhaps a different situation.
She as far as I know is not a designated war grave,as her dead were removed and buried in Uraguay.

She was a beautiful looking ship,my 1st ever model was the Airfix Graff Spee 30 odd years ago!!!

Kitsune
02-04-2004, 10:30 AM
@Oldsoak

Olsoak wrote:

A brave and humane man. I trust he is suitably commemorated in Germany ?

Actually, no. The German attitude towards the war is totally different than the British/American/Russian one. In these nations the war is remembered with pride. Nearly everyone partaking in it is seen as a hero. It is different with Germany. Since everything is overshadowed by the warcrimes (and its made sure that we never forget those) there is pretty few room left for hero worship. Even if it ís Ludendorff, Rommel, Hartmann or Marseilles. There are no parades and celebrations.