Working Russian weapons

[RomanS]

enjoy

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673nabor9.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673nabor8.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673nabor7.jpg
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http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673nabor5.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673nabor4.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673nabor3.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673nabor2.jpg
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http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673nabor11.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673nabor10.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673IMG_0472.jpg

[Erik_MAA]

Fantastic pics! Any way we could get some captions? There are a lot of guns there I don't recognize.

[NOKIA--G21]

woot woot nice pics

[Javehn]

Oh , nice poyebistika . Very nice . Can you just write what's every thing is ?

[Groove]

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[Dennis G]

Cool pics

[Bulkowski]

Nothing but red X's :(

[anonymous individual]

Nothing but red X's :(

Boooooooo!!!! :(

[Marmot1]

yep only red x... like maltan cavaliers or templars....:-)

[intelligenzija]

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[He219]

Have you fired the КОРД (http://www.zid.ru/ru/products/military/kord.html), PermskiiOMON?

http://www.zid.ru/images/products/military/kord.jpg
http://www.zid.ru/images/products/military/kord_50_1.jpg

:D

[Marmot1]

Have you fired the КОРД (http://www.zid.ru/ru/products/military/kord.html), PermskiiOMON?

http://www.zid.ru/images/products/military/kord.jpg
http://www.zid.ru/images/products/military/kord_50_1.jpg

:D
KORD.... he he nice pistol grip if you compare to whole weapon it looks so vulnerable....

[RomanS]

Shot Kord before once in 1998

However always wanted to try Pecheneg and Utes

[UkrainianSpetsnaz]

nice guns Roman

[Dmitri]

What can say Roman, you are THE MAN!! woot

[RomanS]

Notice the scope on this one

This rifle belongs to the Unit of FSB, that goes and operates in Chechnya at least 6 times a year.

The scope was given to them by us. We pruchased it in US, and wanted to help our brothers out with new optics.

I soon will have the latest photos from their tour, using our scope and gear

heheheh
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/uploads//6673/nabor4.jpg

[hank]

Perskii - thanks for posting. Any chance we'll get to see the photos from that tour when you get them? Hope so. Thanks in advance.

hank

[RomanS]

i will ask

I have thousands of photos at home
and hours after hours of the videos shot by our guys
but again this is the stuff that I won't feel comfortble posting.

Especially when there are assholes on this site like ..well I won't mention names

Their critique is always gay

Anyways, if you are in Arizona
Stop by, ill buy you beer and show you some of the tapes and photos.
Its not the posting on the web material

Some of this weapons even still rare and many in prototyping stage.

[George W. Bush]

:hug:

[UkrainianSpetsnaz]

im gonna fly to arizona

[Dmitri]

Anyways, if you are in Arizona
Stop by, ill buy you beer and show you some of the tapes and photos.
Its not the posting on the web material
Dude, I didn't know you live in US! Hopefully I'll swing by there sometimes, would be cool to meet you

[anonymous individual]

im gonna fly to arizona

Me too
(flies right to arizona just for the beer. After the landing, comes to the realization that it is one big state to knock on everyone's door, which will take at least two months... gets a ticket and fly right back home. Sitting down on the computer typing)

Where is your house PermskiiOMON? woot

[Dmitri]

flies right to arizona just for the beer.Ehhh, screw beer, I'm bringing vodka and pickles with me :lol:

[Fulix]

The FSB unit that you mentioned about the scope and so... it would be Vympel?

[Midav]

Nice pics!

[RomanS]

Fulix,

;)

[Dmitri]

Hey Roman, those friends that you are drinking with that you call "American", some of them were on that picture in front of the bus with Kalashnikov in Russia, right? How did that all work? And if the live in America, why do they have russian uniforms?

[RomanS]

:lol:

[Dmitri]

If our American friends don't understand it: elements of MVD and FSB Alfa have infiltrated America... woot

[RomanS]

here is a rare piece you don't see everyday

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673Vimpel2.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673Vimpel.jpg

[Fulix]

Vympel :hug:

[Fulix]

Next: Vympel in action photos??? ;)
woot

[Dmitri]

I wouldn't mind seeing them in even passive p-)

[Dmitri]

I wouldn't mind seeing them even passive p-)

[Fulix]

Me too! :P

[RomanS]

keep wishing brothers

heheh

well, fine

just a little bit.

Again respect the privacy of the people on the photos please.

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673vimpela6.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673vimpela5.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673vimpela4.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673vimpela3.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673vimpela1.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673vimpela.jpg

[intelligenzija]

oh my ****in god.......
:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

[anonymous individual]

Holy smoke!!!!!

[16 OBr SpN]

PermskiiOMON,

Are these all guys from "V"?

BTW, great photos! ;)

Regards,
16 OBr SpN

EDIT: I looked at the pics more carefully. As expected from "V", those guys seem old enough.
Our guys from SpN GRU are younger.

[Alpha Leader]

PermskiiOMON you always have
great pics man
tnx alot :D :D

[RomanS]

16
bratan, da vse vimpela

U krokodila paren iz Alfi v seredine

[el_kab0ng]

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673nabor6.jpg

Mmmmm.

I see 2 VSS rifles, an RPG7b (?), 1 PKM, 2 Dragunov's, 2 AK-74's, 1 Bizon and several Tokarev's.

The only I can't identify without researching is the squirt gun at the bottom right.

[RomanS]

KEDR2

[el_kab0ng]

9x18? or some funky 7.62x25 round?

[RomanS]

9x18 makarov

[perdurabo]

how bison behaves in shooting? it's MP right? so is it enough stable? i remember my fathers friend shooting out of p-63 rak and damn thing cant hit a barn door :] (i was 9yr old so i didn't shoot) but i've seen MP5 vids and it's great....

[el_kab0ng]

I'd actually get a kick out of seeing that end cap removed from the bizon. Or at least seeing how the thing is loaded. I wonder if it's as funky as the FN-90.

[RomanS]

Bizon is the best SMG i've ever shot

MP5 comes in close second.

[UkrainianAmerican]

A question:
Since bizon seems like a good smg, why dont they export it and advertize it? It seems like its a natural competitor against ,say, P90

[RomanS]

They are supplying the entire Russia, and other ex Soviet states are interested in buying.

But they are trying to advertise the **** out of it as much as they can, its just not enough money for it.

[anonymous individual]

Bizon is the best SMG i've ever shot

MP5 comes in close second.

What about the P90?

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673nabor6.jpg

My childhood would have been so eventful if i had these "toys".

[RomanS]

P90 is ok

ergonomics of it sucks

[Marmot1]

X I see X lot of X...

[anonymous individual]

X I see X lot of X...

That is because all pictures are X rated. ;)

[[AFSOC]]

ohh those russians!

[RomanS]

marmot

:bash:

[anonymous individual]

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673Vimpel.jpg

What is the name of this vest?

[Haiw]

All-mighty Model X vest, Type Red.

[Ian H]

here is a rare piece you don't see everyday


Unfortunately I am seeing it quite a lot, (red X's are everywhere)



Again respect the privacy of the people on the photos please.


I have to, they're all hiding behind red x's


:D . Not having a go at you, its just that what you typed seemed to fit what I saw.

[Sayeret]

I really liked the pictures they were done well. The only problem was I couldn't tell what each of the weapons were. Like was the pistol with a silencer a makarov and also what was that green colored sniper rifle?

[Sayeret]

PermskiiOMON,

Why do you think the Bizon is a better SMG than the MP5. I don't know too much about the Bizon so I was just curious.

[George W. Bush]

I dont think an open bolt blowback is better than the MP5

[Russian Texan]

I dont think an open bolt blowback is better than the MP5

And we don't care what you think since you have never shot "Bizon" :)

[GazB]

I dont think an open bolt blowback is better than the MP5

Neither do I but what difference does that make?

Bizon fires from a closed unlocked bolt.

Erik_MAA wrote:

Fantastic pics! Any way we could get some captions? There are a lot of guns there I don't recognize.

http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673nabor6.jpg

Lets see how my weapon recognition skills are:

From the left in the back lying down are the 9A-91 assault rifle, then either a VSS silenced sniper rifle or an AS silenced assault rifle (I'd need to see the butt stock to be sure). Next is a helmet that is sitting on a black (practise) RPG-7 rocket fitted to a launcher... the pistol grip of which can be seen between the green box mag for the PKM and the bipod of the PKM.
Lying on the RPG round from the left front the first pistol looks like a PYa Grach pistol, then the APS stechkin machine pistol, next looks like a second Grach pistol and then a silenced Makarov. Bottom right from bottom to top is either a Klin or Kedr SMG and then a Bizon SMG.
Now the background from left to right is an SVD with a synthetic stock, scope and bipod, an SVD with wooden stock then a PKM and then two AK-74s, the first with a night vision scope and the second without a scope.

For the reast of the photos, as they appear on the first page, the first is a Makarov silenced pistol with special holster. Note the interrupted thread on the silencer means you can slide it on and give it one turn to fit it to the barrel.
The second picture shows a PKM.
The third picture is a new SVD with synthetic stock.
The fourth pic see above.
The fifth picture the top weapon is the VSS silenced sniper rifle in 9x39mm and the lower weapon is the AS silenced assault rifle in 9x39mm.
(Both firing very heavy subsonic projectiles)
The sixth picture is the SV-98 sniper rifle in 7.62 x 54R.
The seventh pic is a PKM.
The eigth is four PKM against a wall.
The ninth is an SV-98 with a suppressor. (ie reduces noise and makes shooter harder to locate but still ehar the crack of supersonic bullets.)
The tenth image is a nice shot of a Silenced Makarov with the silencer fitted.
The eleventh is the SV-98.
The twelvth photo is 16 Obr Spn and someone I don't recognise.

How did I go? (Not 100% sure about the Grach pistols).

[GazB]

I should add that comments I have heard about the Bizon have been good. Those that have tested it say the lack of a magazine sticking down out the bottom of the weapon mean you can get lower and closer to things without it monopoding. One even tested loading high impulse and standard 9 x 18mm rounds plus 9 x 19 rounds all in one mag. (this was in the version with grooves in the chamber so that more powerful rounds could be used) The accuracy was pathetic as the trajectories of the different rounds were completely different but there were no stoppages. With the standard 9 x 18mm rounds the bolt was recoiling only a short distance. With the more powerful 9 x 18mm PMM and 9 x 19mm rounds the bolt was reciolling right back to the limits of the receiver. The longer recoil lowered the rate of fire and improved the feel of the weapon in full auto. During one test one of the testers emptied a whole 67 round magazine into the target in one burst. The pattern was about a foot across at 50m and circular... ie a chestfull of lead.