My photos of Aks(personal collection)

[RomanS]

Here are some of the photos I took 2 years ago




http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673Picture_2811.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673Picture_2331.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673Picture_221.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673Picture_203.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673Picture_179.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673Picture_322.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673Picture_281.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673Picture_233.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673Picture_122.jpg
http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673Picture_107.jpg

[Vance]

Holy ****...you guys got a crapload of guns.

[Jack Mehoff]

Off topic,

How's the gun law in Russia?

[HumanShield]

i want ak47!!!
:cantbeli:

[RomanS]

****ty laws

[Vlad]

If I am not mistaken, civilians can not posses fire arms. The only exception (and I am not sure 100%) is private investigators/body guards who can have guns, but they need a special permit and need to have a licence.

[George W. Bush]

Is that Krinkov an SBR?

[RomanS]

was

[George W. Bush]

lol so it was a registered SBR and then you made it 26" length again?

[RomanS]

ughhh, :roll:
NO

not unless the buyer has an sbr tax stamp

[soma]

So clean, so nice :D

[obd]

Hey P-OMON, how do you like the 75 round drum mags?? They have always intrigued me but I notice not many use themin combat. Is it true that they rattle to much?? Is it just too darn heavy for have 75 rnds' for 7.62 short like that??? I always kinda looked at the setup as a large caliber PPsh of sorts hehe........

[RomanS]

obd

they do rattle a lot

mostly Chinese ones though.

The Russian or Romanians not as much.

They do get freaking heavy man ...

[perdurabo]

OK now i'm scared ;-) you are preparing to 3rd world war? ;-) or just to some private vendetta? :D (marmont watch out :P )

[Wildc@rd]

Lots of airsoft guns! :D

[radon]

:( they dont show

[Sorbas2000]

There seems to be a lot of bulgarian stuff (mags, black plastic grips, etc.) Is ist so?

[spoonman]

:( they dont show


they're hosted on a www.gunsnet.net photo album and the site is currently down, hopefully it'll be back soon. i loves the russian weapons.

[RomanS]

the only bulgarian part you see is the waffle magazine

all other parts Are 100% Russian on the furniture

[Marmot1]

OK now i'm scared ;-) you are preparing to 3rd world war? ;-) or just to some private vendetta? :D (marmont watch out :P )

Well I'm not scare I am personaly armed too... :-) 5 or 6 guns... and i apllied to police for permision for 4 more so it shoud't be problem to handle armed "ruskie" ;) .... btw one of my rifles is .177 cal (4.5mm) (sorry no pics currently in usa but I should have it in poland in 60 days...)have anyone of you ever seen such thing??? :-) it's not airsoft... if you ask,

As for the russian stuff i have one airsoft gun Skif ANICS 3000 and it's very reliable and I like it very much since I can practice shooting in my garage (no need to go to shooting range) and magazine capacity (28) is very cool... as I said before in other topic russian guns rulez....

BTW any of you, have or used RADOM Hunter how it is??? (I know how it looks, works, what ammo etc.) I ask about personal opinion, is it worth buying since I need to buy some junk to keep my permision for rifle (I need to have one on stock :-) since it would take me a while to "import" my stuff from US.)

[Marmot1]

OK now i'm scared ;-) you are preparing to 3rd world war? ;-) or just to some private vendetta? :D (marmont watch out :P )

Well I'm not scare I am personaly armed too... :-) 5 or 6 guns... and i apllied to police for permision for 4 more so it shoud't be problem to handle armed "ruskie" ;) .... btw one of my rifles is .177 cal (4.5mm) (sorry no pics currently in usa but I should have it in poland in 60 days...)have anyone of you ever seen such thing??? :-) it's not airsoft... if you ask,

As for the russian stuff i have one airsoft gun Skif ANICS 3000 and it's very reliable and I like it very much since I can practice shooting in my garage (no need to go to shooting range) and magazine capacity (28) is very cool... as I said before in other topic russian guns rulez....

BTW any of you, have or used RADOM Hunter how it is??? (I know how it looks, works, what ammo etc.) I ask about personal opinion, is it worth buying since I need to buy some junk to keep my permision for rifle (I need to have one on stock :-) since it would take me a while to "import" my stuff from US.)

BTW nice collection of X permski... can you change server since this one looks like have restrictions on bandwitch...

[RomanS]

the messed up thing is

i stoped using the old service -villagephotos

and started using gunsnet

they are down now lol

no luck with anything lately

[Dennis G]

PermskiiOMON your photos never work for me I have to paste them in my address bar. :(


BTW--I love the Ak-47 I have three one is pre-ban :D the other two I got in the late 90's around 96-98

[aFgHaNibOi]

Whoah! Beautiful pictures man! Looking at these makes me want to go join an army or something. :P

[Durandal]

i want ak47!!!
:cantbeli:

BUY ONE! They start out around 280.00 and can go as high as 750.00.

So long as you are at least 21 years old, do not have a criminal record or a mental illness, and live in a facist state, you should be able to ahndle that.

[GazB]

There seems to be a lot of bulgarian stuff (mags, black plastic grips, etc.) Is ist so?

The Black plastic, is actually a thermoset resin that is very strong, light, and cheap. It also doesn't absorb chemicals so it is easy to decontaminate.

I have seen pictures going back to the late to mid 80s of weapons that use such black synthetic components including shots taken in Afghanistan.

The black or dark brown magazine has replaced the red plastic and aluminium magazine. The new mags are lighter than the old steel mags but stronger than the red plastic/al mags and they are cheap to make too.

Nice Photos BTW Permsk... I especially liked the silenced Makarov.

This might sound strange and unprofessional... and very hollywood like but would it be possible for you to get some video footage of one person holding and firing two APS's emptying whole magazines in one burst? I would be interested to see how long the 20 round mags last in full auto and also how controllable they would be in only one hand and with two at once. Obviously accuracy is not important but if you feel it is not safe or too silly I will understand.

Edit:
Errrrr, ummm .... and now that I look properly you posted the pictures of teh silenced Makarovs in the other thread... called "Working Russian Weapons".

:oops: :oops: :oops:

Would still like to see two APS's rocking and rolling...

[Durandal]

They do get freaking heavy man ...

Yeah, really heavy...

Hell, my 40 round straight is heavy enough. The novelty of my 75 round drum went away the third time I loaded it. I traded it for a sexy Weaver rail side mount.

I have to say, that is a nice AK collection and solid photos.

I am curious about hte exact details of Russian gun laws. I have been studying up more on the different laws across the United States and would be curious about how they compare with yours...

[obd]

Hey P-OMON and OBR-SPN, my question about the 75 round drum was only a partial question . I had about 30 seconds to go to class so I had to leave it at that but thanks for answering it. My other question I wanted to ask was about those long 40 round mags (or are they 50 rounds??) that I see alot of troops in Chechnya carrying: They seem to be much prefered to the 75 round drum. I take it they are easier to reload and lighter but are there any issues with the length?? Is it possible to fire in a good ****e position with those things???

Also, how much does an Ak-74 with a gp-25 plus one of those 40 round mags weigh?? It seems to be quite popular and I imagine for the immense and quick firepower it offers. I guess it would be good to use for covering in anti-ambush reactions??? Also how does the gp-25 compare to the M-203 in accuracy? Why is there such a large smoke signature when it fires? Are there any variants that are smokeless? Are the VOG series grenades more lethal than M203 style HEDP rounds??? I saw combat video on CNN back during the intial face of Chechen war #2 ( I think it was during Grozny operations) which showed a Russian trooper firing a Gp-25/30 right through a doorway of a building where they were taking sniper fire from. I was amazed at its accuracy as he fired it from his hip while leaning around a piece of building debris in the middle of the road. Also, does the Gp 25 fire in an arching trajectory lke the M203?? I have heard some say it is possible to learn to aim it a little by using rifle site and not a dedicated "leaf" type site for the launcher. Is this true??

Also, is there any dedicated light machine gun comparable to the M249 SAW in Russian service in Chechnya??? The Russian PK series compares to things lke the FN MAG/M240G in US service but I havnt seen a 5.45 belt fed light machine gun. I know there is debate on using such small calibre for MG's but all troops, especially British in Iraq, have given the 5.56mm Fn Minimi para very very good reviews. Also navy SEALS used the Stoner machine gun to great effect in Vietnam (when it worked). Im curiose to get info on whether Russian has an equivilant weapon and if not, why have they not and are they developing one??? I know the RPD was rather light weight but it also fired 7.62 and was not belt fed and did not have a quick change barrel. I always thought a Russian belt fed MG in 5.45 calibre would be a really great system but I have never heard of one.......... :(

Would you actually use a 5,45 MG or is the PK/RPD light weight enough for urban fighting?? I heard lots of reports also from Chechens and from Russians fighting them that Chechen rebels liked the PK very much because some versions could be made to fire single rounds and were used a sniper rifles by the "resistance" or bandits or whatever they are called.

Also, does that multi launch grenade launcher fire 40mm VOG rounds or the 30mm style lke the AGS-17?? Im not sure what its called but has it been recieved well? Is it effective in urban fighting or is it better to carry an RPG system? I have seen a few used in Chechnya but not very many. It looks deadly but......you have any experience with the weapon??

[RomanS]

the 40 round magazine is for the RPK 7.62x39

It was used in Chechnya, but not very commonly. I've never seen that many people with them.
The drums were rare as well. Because they stoped producing them back in early 70s

45 round goes to RPK74. And is very common in Chechnya. It works good if you position yourself in a trench, but going ****e with it sucks. Very uncomfortabale.

Most of the guys would just tape two 30 rounders together.

Some guys would also use it with their AKS-74s or even AKSUs.


As for KOSTER gp25, its a great weapon. The barrel is much shorter than the AMerican M203, that is why it ejects more smoke out. Also, you don't have to move the tube forward with KOSTER, like you would with 203 to reload a round.

With GP25 you just insert the grenade with a slight screwing motion into the barrel, and press it in.
The triger is not the smoothest, and the recoil is huge. Thats why when you recieve your Koster or Obuvka package, it comes with a rubber butt pad for your buttstock.

Earlier versions of AK-74 didnt come with a proper top cover, so when you would shoot the VOG, the top cover flies off.
http://www.arms.ru/Guns/grenade/2972101c.jpg

Primarely GP comes with 2 kinds of grenades.
VOG-25 7p17 HE

and the VOG25P (lyagushka) FROG
it has pyrotechnical style booster, that makes it bounce off the ground, and detonate over enemies head.
Very lethal ****. I've seen some videos of that thing.


Again, because of the barrel length, the accuracy is shorter with GP series than 203.

The only light machine gun we use is the RPK-74

The AGS 17 fires VOG17 grenade, which is a 30mm.
One of the best support weapons out there.
With even 1 "ulitka" (slug drum) you can make your enemies turn around and take break hehehe

I've shot it before twice.

[Durandal]

For what its worth, I find it difficult to go ****e with a 40 round magazine for the AK. It is simply too long. It weighs a lot. It is also interesting to note that while there are a lot of load bearing set-ups for both the 30 round mags and the 75 round drums, I have not found many 40 rnd mag pouches (that is not to say they are not there and I would imagine many of the Russian and Polish guys on this list might know of some). I cannot imagine carrying a lot of those things on my hip. The length along would be awkward.


Note: I was never issued an AK in the army, being an American. The AK I own is a civilian rifle and I target shoot. I was trained on a M16 and I also own an AR-15. I own 30 round magazines for the AR but use nothing over 20 when I target shoot from a table or shoot stand/brace/rest because the 30 is too long (the 40 round AK mag is almost twice as long the M16 30).

Annecdotal, I know, but I thought it might be of some value.

[Marmot1]

With GP25 you just insert the grenade with a slight screwing motion into the barrel, and press it in.


You mean you put it into barrel and push it with fingers... damn and how about safety what if primer activate by accident when you push it??? kaboom and hands off your body...??? I know when GP is in good shape everything should go smooth but **** hapens when you use it for years......

BTW any info about GP30?? is it never version or what?

[Durandal]

You mean you put it into barrel and push it with fingers... damn and how about safety what if primer activate by accident when you push it??? kaboom and hands off your body...???

How would you ignite the primer with your hands?

Every use a bolt action rifle? I mean, this is a center fire grenade right?

[Uninen]

:cantbeli:

Images dont show..

:cantbeli:

Well,

Later then..

:cantbeli:

[Marmot1]

You mean you put it into barrel and push it with fingers... damn and how about safety what if primer activate by accident when you push it??? kaboom and hands off your body...???

How would you ignite the primer with your hands?

Every use a bolt action rifle? I mean, this is a center fire grenade right?
yep center fire. and how about accidental fire??? in m203 grenade is safe becouse bolt is out of grenade and in GP25... bolt should be hiden but what if there is malfuction...