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Heinzi
10-27-2005, 07:28 AM
Hi
I found that while searching info about the 22nd PD

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Local man shares memories on 60th anniversary of V-E Day
May 8 2005 12:00AM

By J.D. HILLARD

OF THE REGISTER-PAJARONIAN

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CORRALITOS - Sixty years ago this weekend, Ray Zager nearly died in Austria, not at the hands of the SS but by almost rolling his jeep, Betsy, into the Enns River.

On a gray day in late April in his home in the woods, Zager recounted the day the dreaded SS offered to help him change a tire. It was May 8, 1945 - V-E Day.

Having shipped over in December 1944, Zager found himself a messenger, driving messages between commanders in Betsy.

"I was lucky. I could drive," he said. Most soldiers walked.

Zager's 71st Division made a name for itself and was swallowed into Gen. George Patton's divisions, which in a few months battled from eastern France, across Germany and into Austria, he said.

When the Germans surrendered, Zager's 1st Battalion had separated from the rest of the 71st Division and followed the German 22nd Panzer Division for about 200 miles.

The U.S. Army had told the 22nd's commanders to surrender to the Russian army, which was holding Vienna a few miles away. However, the Russians had earned a reputation of exacting brutal vengeance on German soldiers, and the commanders of the 22,000-strong German division threatened to destroy the 2,700-man 1st Battalion if it would not accept its surrender, Zager said. The U.S. commanders bowed to the threat and accepted the Germans' surrender offer.

A line of German soldiers in trucks stretched for miles down a road along the Enns, Zager said. The Americans took the Germans' weapons, ordered them to strip, then gave their clothes back. Most German soldiers were soon released and told to go home, Zager said.

Among the German troops were four U.S. airmen whose bomber had been shot down. The German soldiers had been hiding the airmen from the SS, whose officers were known to shoot war prisoners. Zager was driving down the line of German soldiers waiting to surrender, collecting German pistols as war souvenirs, when he encountered one of the airmen.

Zager took the airman back to his captain and was ordered to help bring back the other three, who were still in the hands of the Germans.

Night had fallen by the time he had gathered the other three airmen. Zager turned Betsy around to head back toward the U.S. line, but he blew a tire and lost control and nearly drove over a cliff into the Enns.

Which is how on May 8, 1945, Zager found himself stuck in the dark with a flat tire in front of a German Tiger tank on a road above a steep fall to the Enns River, unarmed and surrounded by thousands of soldiers. Soldiers who, a few days earlier, were trying to kill him.

Zager and the others in the jeep hid all the pistols and their own weapons under the airmen's flight jackets to avoid provoking the Germans. They were replacing the flat tire when four SS officers approached.

"The airmen thought they were going to be killed for sure," Zager said.

As the SS approached, one said, "Can we help you with your tire?"

Meanwhile, the tank and all the hundreds of soldiers behind it were held up by a few Americans in a broken jeep, Zager said.

"I think we were quite lucky that we weren't killed then and there," he said.

Zager didn't take the SS up on their offer.

They asked him if he was afraid of the tank. He said he was.

"You won the war but you afraid?" an SS officer said.

The SS did not kill them. Neither did the tank. Zager finished with the tire on his own and his partner **** Colon drove them back to the American line.

"That was V-E Day," Zager said. "It was quite an exciting day at that."




İRegister-Pajaronian 2005



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Freibier
10-27-2005, 07:31 AM
Great Read!

Crassus
10-27-2005, 07:38 AM
Interesting, but I´m afraid that 22. Pz. was practically destroyed at Don steppe during fighting around Stalingrad. It was disbanned 3.1943 and was not reformed. Perhaps he was referring to 23. or 24. Panzer division.

eucalyptus
10-27-2005, 07:44 AM
hehe great read! The priceless ww2 stories.

Bryson C
10-27-2005, 10:13 AM
Excellent read. Thx for posting.

Heinzi
10-27-2005, 10:37 AM
Interesting, but I´m afraid that 22. Pz. was practically destroyed at Don steppe during fighting around Stalingrad. It was disbanned 3.1943 and was not reformed. Perhaps he was referring to 23. or 24. Panzer division.

You may be right that there is a number typo or confusion there. I dont know enough about the 22nd because of lack of sources. Only have google regarding the 22nd ;)

Crassus
10-27-2005, 11:03 AM
You may be right that there is a number typo or confusion there. I dont know enough about the 22nd because of lack of sources. Only have google regarding the 22nd ;)

Go to http://www.feldgrau.com/PzDiv1b.php and you will find the info. It was probably 23. PzD he was talking about. They fought in Hungary and they were in Austria at the time of VE Day. Hey, do you know someone who can tell the difference between Zwei oder Drei

Heinzi
10-27-2005, 11:26 AM
Hey, do you know someone who can tell the difference between Zwei oder Drei

I will have a look if I find one ;)

Thx for the link :)

PeterG
10-28-2005, 04:56 AM
Interesting, but I´m afraid that 22. Pz. was practically destroyed at Don steppe during fighting around Stalingrad. It was disbanned 3.1943 and was not reformed. Perhaps he was referring to 23. or 24. Panzer division.

The article also states a strength of 22 000 men - did any german division at any time have this many men?

Lokos
10-28-2005, 05:25 AM
The article also states a strength of 22 000 men - did any german division at any time have this many men?

I agree, highly dubious. That's significantly higher than even the authorized strength of average '44 and '45 divisions, let alone the real strength of the same.

Lokos

foxtrot023
10-28-2005, 09:29 AM
I agree, highly dubious. That's significantly higher than even the authorized strength of average '44 and '45 divisions, let alone the real strength of the same.

Lokos

Only the SS Pz. divs could boast those numbers and only till early ´45.

eucalyptus
10-28-2005, 09:48 AM
my guess is that the germans came up with the number of soldiers to put some weight behind the threats.