Palestinian collaborator's son 'tortured to condemn mother'

[SeanAshi]

The son of the first known Palestinian woman to be executed as an Israeli collaborator said today gunmen tortured him until he invented a story about his mother’s involvement in a militant’s death.

Ikhlas Khouli, a 35-year-old mother of seven, was shot dead on Saturday after being seized from her home in the West Bank city of Tulkarem.

Bakir Khouli, 17, lifted up his T-shirt at his one-room house to reveal black and blue marks he said were made by electrical wires shortly before his mother was killed.

“They accused me of helping Israeli intelligence,” he said. “When they started beating me with this wire, I confessed and invented a story.”

Dozens of suspected Palestinian collaborators have been killed since the beginning of a Palestinian uprising in September 2000, but Khouli was the first woman reported executed.

A member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, which is linked to the Fatah movement of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, said the militia seized Khouli from her house on Friday and took her to a deserted building where they videotaped her confessing that she had spied for Israel.

She was executed as a lesson to others who would consider collaborating with Israel, he said.

He said Khouli admitted she had recruited her son Bakir to assist her.

Bakir said he told his torturers that he informed his mother of the whereabouts of militia leader Ziad Daas, killed by Israeli forces on August 7.

But he said he made up the story to avoid further torture.

Bakir said the gunmen allowed him to catch a glimpse of his mother shortly before she was taken away and shot. He said he was seized from his home, his head covered by a bag, and tortured for about an hour.

A few hours later, his mother was taken, too, he said.

Najla’a Khouli, the eldest of the seven children at 18 years old, broke down in tears when she spoke of her mother, whose body she said she saw in a hospital.

“It was a horrible sight. I would never have imagined that one day I would see my mother like this,” she said.

She said the children’s father died of an illness eight months ago and that she is engaged to be married and will soon be leaving the family home.

“Who will take care of my brothers and sisters?” she asked.

An Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades leader said his group was forced to “strike with an iron hand” to prevent collaboration with Israel.

“I know that this woman had children but we had no choice. We left her son alive to take care of the children,” he said on condition he was not named.

Asked why his group employed torture, he said: “This is the only way you can get confessions from such people who betray their people.”

Palestinians want democracy? How many deomocracies execute their people with out trial by jury or judge, only evidence is hearsay, and confessions under duress?

[anonymous individual]

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[usa320]

I used to give these people the benefit of the doubt. I used to say that it is as much the israeli's fault as it is the palestinians, just a big cycle of violence snowballing out of control. Recently however, my feelings have changed. Bomb Them. Bomb the Palestinian authority. Kill arafat. His regime is a boulder in the middle of a road, a road to peace, with many people trying to get passed the boulder. Not to mention it is his regime that carries out the bombings in israel, and along with Syria, Iran, and lebanon supports groups like Islamic Jihad, Ansar Al-Islam, Hezbollah, Hamas, Al Queda... list goes on and on. We need to kill Arafat and Yassin if we ever want progress in the middle east- if the israelis wont do it, we should.These militants arent "freedom fighters" as some European or Muslims may see them. They are murderers, cold blooded, rutheless killers, who are willing to do anything to kill a jew or an American, even if means killing their brother or son in the process.

They need to be blasted like hell.

[One?]

usa320 your gonna die of stress before anyone is killed.

[usa320]

because attacking me is a mature thing to do right?

You know these guys are morons who all deserve a hellfire in their face.

You know it.

They are. They are such brutal people even you realize that im right.

You have no argument,

So what better thing to do than attack me.

And i aint stressed at all.

[UoUo]

Salam alicom one...

I think peace will come...

Hey one what do you think about the new program of shrom pulling out of Gaza ?

BTW : i have few nice pic's of your homeland view....i took them on my Travel to the north last week...great view!!!. i also have some pic's of the City called "konitra"...

[SeanAshi]

We need to kill Arafat and Yassin
The anti-semitics in Europe wouldn't go for that. I wished I wasn't stressed out, my stomach ulcer acts up its so painful at times I can't even walk, but I got a bottle of pepto-bismol to put the fire out.

[Nunavut's sewage]

I bet an Israeli Cyborg legal drug cartel posted that to fool us!!

[Mr. Nielsen]

In Denmark too, collaborators were killed during the war. And to this day it is still a hotly debated issue. How sure do you need to be before you execute people? And how many used the collaborator claim to settle personal scores?

Besides the israeli secret police is also well known to use torture. And without doubt they also get plenty of fake confessions.

[SeanAshi]

Besides the israeli secret police is also well known to use torture. And without doubt they also get plenty of fake confessions.
The Israelis don't break into peoples homes and apartments grabing them then telling them to confess or they will die, then they confes and they get shot in the head dragged through the streets then hung up on poles for everyone to see your corpse.

[Mr. Nielsen]

The Israelis don't break into peoples homes and apartments grabing them then telling them to confess or they will die, then they confes and they get shot in the head dragged through the streets then hung up on poles for everyone to see your corpse.

They sure do break into peoples homes and apartments. And I wouldn't be surprised if they, in some cases have done some heavy handed interogation on the spot.

Besides occupation is not very healthy for moral values (that goes for occupiers too). In Denmark at least, the bodies of collaborators were not hung from lamp posts, but I'm pretty sure it happended elsewhere in europe.

[SeanAshi]

Maybe in Albania and Kosovo

[One?]

Salam alicom one...

I think peace will come...

Hey one what do you think about the new program of shrom pulling out of Gaza ?

BTW : i have few nice pic's of your homeland view....i took them on my Travel to the north last week...great view!!!. i also have some pic's of the City called "konitra"...

I don't think the MPs or sharon's cabinet will agree on his plan. It will solve alot of issues, but I doubt israeli would allow sharon to go forth with it.

I don't know many of the cities/villages in the south :oops: All I know is beirut and its sarroundings. But ya the scenery is great.

Isn't koneytra somewhere on the syrian border?

[SeanAshi]

Israel is taking a big step here, and now its the Palestinian Authority's turn, but the PA will probably do what they did at Camp David and scuttle the whole situation.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Israel is taking a big step here,...

An evacuation of the illegal settlements in Gaza is not a big step, but a long overdue and much too late step. Had Israel been serious about the "Oslo process" they would have removed them ten years ago (of course not having built them at all would have been even better).

And the real intentions of Sharon we don't know. After all he is not known for being strongly affiliated with speaking the truth. There could be several explanations for his suggestion.

a) Diverting attention from the corruption scandal.
b) Looking good for his coming visit in Washington.

or he could actually speak the truth this time.

c) Trading off Gaza for continued control over the West Bank.

In that case the extremist (at least more than Likud) parties in his coalition will walkout, but instead Labour will go in and so keep him in power.

[Mr. Nielsen]

...Palestinian Authority's turn, but the PA will probably do what they did at Camp David and scuttle the whole situation.

Forget about the PA. The PA is basicly destroyed, demoralised and corrupt.
Also the time for treating the symptoms, not the illment is over.

The palestinian society needs to rebuilt from the ground.

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[Mr. Nielsen]

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Yeah, against the first post with the quote and the very original
anwers/posts by people like usa320 that we´ve never heard before.

The solution to all problems seems simply to be a holocaust.

[UoUo]

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Yeah, against the first post with the quote and the very original
anwers/posts by people like usa320 that we´ve never heard before.

The solution to all problems seems simply to be a holocaust.

:roll:

What do you mean?

[Tengu]

Some of my family was in the resistance too during ww2. They also killed collaborators. The ones that were more lucky just had to lick the toilets clean after the war.
But they defended democracy unlike some of those terrorist beasts

[Mr. Nielsen]

Some of my family was in the resistance too during ww2. They also killed collaborators. The ones that were more lucky just had to lick the toilets clean after the war.

When the occupation is over, you can put collaborators on trial and if convicted put in jail or whatever. People who had built up hatred though might take things into their own hands after the war.



But they defended democracy unlike some of those terrorist beasts

You need freedom before you can establish democracy. Also with regard to the religious fundamentalists in the occupied territories, just ten years ago there wasn't that many of them.

[UoUo]

Some of my family was in the resistance too during ww2. They also killed collaborators. The ones that were more lucky just had to lick the toilets clean after the war.

When the occupation is over, you can put collaborators on trial and if convicted put in jail or whatever. People who had built up hatred though might take things into their own hands after the war.



But they defended democracy unlike some of those terrorist beasts

You need freedom before you can establish democracy. Also with regard to the religious fundamentalists in the occupied territories, just ten years ago there wasn't that many of them.

For more then 6 years even no 1 single soldair been in the west bank...hm...

[Javehn]

Listen Nielsen . Cut the ****ing crap again (as i wrote allready to you on another thread) . Enough is enough . Stop bull****ing allready .

They had the freedom in 1994 - 1998 . They had a good freedom .Not a single IDF soldier spirit is in their places .Beautiffull cities , like the time stoped there , good economy . A house contractors from territories had Mercedesses , and 3 store villas in Rammalah and Jenin . There is very famous guy that lives near Jenin , he has a giant villah , his name is Hadad , and it's called "Hadad Villa" , he owns several factories in Israel and west bank , and he is very rich man , and lives pretty good . Palestinian worked in Israel and in West bank pretty well , they could come to Israel when they wanted , Israelies would come to west bank to they Bazzars (I visited 7 years ago the Native church in Beith-Lehem , very nice place ) , and visited historical places there . They had almost fool control over they places , one of the reachiest cities was Rammalah and Jericho , with it's famous casino . There were a huge traid between firms from both sides between each other , helping to develop agricaltural foundation . When you pass near Jenin , all of their planations are Israeli build Israeli based technology that Israel gave them .

If not your pressios body Arafak , this would all continue . But evidently they didn't liked it . And now this days they live in total **** , their outlaw gangs shooting each other on streets , and then shooting IDF soldiers when they come , using children for it . They universities is a breedout for terror , university Najah in Nablus is the most piss of **** place on this entire plannet - i bet you would like the place , Nielsen .

So , in conclussion , don't **** the brain , you will make holl in it . Go lecture to other people .