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Argyll
10-30-2005, 10:03 AM
Gents,
Having been in personal touch with one of the German PSD members from the article posted,based on the facts presented to me by him,I'm completely satisfied,there was no "exageration"......or bull**** to their story,infact the story doesn't credit them enough for their actions on that day......and I would personaly like to offer my apologies for not believing the version of events....in the belief they were distorting the truth

I will not be making the facts presented to me by Norman public........so don't ask!!
toki
10-30-2005, 10:08 AM
Hey...
Interesting. That's what i call first hand information. :)
Esszett
10-30-2005, 10:24 AM
So we finally have a confirmation.
Calms me down a little. I was about to lose my faith in German journalism since the WDR (the TV-channel) unlike the "Stern" is not known to send stories which are not well investigated.
Count Lippe
10-30-2005, 10:25 AM
So who did you speak to? Norman, Olaf,...?
Argyll
10-30-2005, 11:24 AM
So who did you speak to? Norman, Olaf,...?

try reading again ..;)

I will not be making the facts presented to me by Norman public........so don't ask!!
tsuri
10-30-2005, 11:27 AM
So how did this develop? Do those guys read MP.net too?
Macs.
10-30-2005, 11:28 AM
Thanks for keeping us updated, Agryll.
Argyll
10-30-2005, 11:43 AM
So how did this develop? Do those guys read MP.net too?

No I believe a German forum member emailed them,to point them to me ;)

eh macs?;)

Actually Norman seems like a very nice bloke.....and the ambush compised of an L shape,then a rolling ambush involving a lot of vehicles.......the TTP he sent was very good and detailed.....and lessons can be learned from it.
dacanadianbomb
10-30-2005, 11:46 AM
I should offer up my apologies as well, since I was one of the people stabbing at them too.
So
Bitte um entschuldigung für meine unhöffliche aussagen.
ibstolidude
10-30-2005, 11:46 AM
So how did this develop? Do those guys read MP.net too?

A lot of people come across this site.
Aussie E
10-30-2005, 12:36 PM
Could some please post a link to the article for those of us who missed it.
Thanks
Bob Lawbla
10-30-2005, 12:45 PM
Could someone post a link to "the article posted".

Thank you in advance.

oops my bad.
Argyll
10-30-2005, 12:50 PM
Use the search button guys and stop being lazy!!!!


Oh and the article is in German too
toki
10-30-2005, 01:21 PM
Could some please post a link to the article for those of us who missed it.
Thanks

thread (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=59458&highlight=german)

article pdf (http://www.bodyguard-akademie.com/download/ba_stern_41-05_irak.pdf)

Even though i don't understand why he allows the press and TV to show his family and unveil his residence together with his family name. Extremist live everywhere, not only in iraq.
seventy6er
10-30-2005, 01:49 PM
I will not be making the facts presented to me by Norman public........so don't ask!!

Interesting. To be honest, my bullsh!t-o-meter was very high.

Is Norman the big fella with the flesh-cap? (at least he looked kinda big on TV).
toki
10-30-2005, 01:59 PM
Interesting. To be honest, my bullsh!t-o-meter was very high.

Is Norman the big fella with the flesh-cap? (at least he looked kinda big on TV).

Yes that's him. He also took a bullet to his face and has a scar next to his nose. (see: pdf in my previous post)
Lt-Col A. Tack
10-30-2005, 04:11 PM
I can't read german, but in the pdf, it has one picture of someone wearing "Property of the Coalition Forces"

Nice :)
Kitsune
10-30-2005, 04:13 PM
@Argyll:

Nice touch, that you are that upfront about one mistake of yours.
I wish that would be more common among folks.
Kudos!
Argyll
10-30-2005, 04:14 PM
They were promoting their business,so the TV program and the magazine article kind of manipulated some parts,missed out others,and it made the guys look a bit OTT......Norman responed to a list of questions I asked in a private email in a very proffesional manner,didn't make any fuss,didn't lose his cool,and gave me answers,for the best part of what I asked

Given the nature of the ambush they encountered,I seen where they got their Walls of Steel monicker from,the details presented to be honest gave a different impression from the magazine,and subsequent TV interview of the accounts that day...........so I doft my cap to Alpha team!
Upfrontreporting
10-30-2005, 05:09 PM
Well this was an interesting turn of events. Personally I didn't percieve the TV documentary as far fetched, no glory-hunting in my optics.
dacanadianbomb
10-30-2005, 05:53 PM
Yes the movie was a lot less dramatic than the article itself.
Count Lippe
10-31-2005, 11:52 AM
try reading again ..;)

Sorry Argyll, the last sentence was like "Opsec bla bla bla... Don't ask!" to me. p-)
sickofpretenders
10-31-2005, 12:03 PM
I can't read german, but in the pdf, it has one picture of someone wearing "Property of the Coalition Forces"

Nice :)

Thats a t-shirt they sell at the PX. I got one myself.

I respect Argylls point of view on this, but im finding it hard to get over a few things like they guys saying they were snipers in colombia and worked all the places they said. Also the tattoo on the chest is a little out there.
khukuri
11-08-2005, 09:55 PM
Theese guys are using pics on their website that arent theirs. I recon some of the pics is from a swede that served abroad with an artctic warfare sniper rifle.

edit: how very typical of this thread this is. The pics were on the front page. But now later that i browsed the site they write and post pics of other ppl like the marines.... should maybe checked out the entire site before posting.