(UK)Armed gang shoot five men in home

[Geezah]

Five men were shot when a gang forced their way into a house in east London.

Two of the gang initially tried to get into the property in Walthamstow but the residents fought them off with what are described as kitchen utensils.

Police said two more men then managed to get in and shot the five residents in the attack on Sunday.

The injured were taken to hospital by a neighbour where three were treated for minor injuries and two are said to be in a stable condition.

The four gunmen escaped in a Ford Ka and a Volkswagen hatchback with tinted windows.

Operation Trafalgar

Operation Trafalgar - which looks into non black-on-black gun crime in London - is investigating the incident.

Detectives are keeping an open mind regarding motive at this stage.

DS Neil Lemon said: "We are eager to trace the two vehicles involved in this incident, where it is believed that one of the men suffered from a head injury.

"The Metropolitan Police Service is dedicated to reducing gun crime and I appeal to anyone with information to contact us."

Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/4395146.stm)

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[thunderw]

Isn't that great, residents fighting off intruders with kitchen utensils. Didn't last long. Britain's definition of security...

[joe mama]

Anybody know if this was in some crap neighborhood and was likely to be criminal on criminal violence of some kind?

[Geezah]

Anybody know if this was in some crap neighborhood and was likely to be criminal on criminal violence of some kind?

"Walthamstow" isn't that great.

[gjm75]

What do they mean "non black-on black gun crime"?

I assume they are refering to race, or does this mean something else in England?

[Geezah]

What do they mean "non black-on black gun crime"?

I assume they are refering to race, or does this mean something else in England?

Operation Trident targets black on black crime, so yes they are talking about race. When you have certain parts of the country that is a majority of a minority, you need to send people in that have an understanding of that group.

[Belrick]

You mean there treated differently.
eg: Since blacks are more likely to offend than other ethnic groups, those officers within Operation Trident are more likely to throw black people in jail with less investigation effort since there more likely to be guilty?

???

[joe mama]

You mean there treated differently.
eg: Since blacks are more likely to offend than other ethnic groups, those officers within Operation Trident are more likely to throw black people in jail with less investigation effort since there more likely to be guilty?

???

Maybe they're officers specially trained to speak Ebonics? "yo! my nigga! wut be happenin up in dis heah hood!?!??! who be slingin dem rox n bustin caps in fools?!?!?!?!?"
:)

[Spike_Kojima]

Maybe they're officers specially trained to speak Ebonics? "yo! my nigga! wut be happenin up in dis heah hood!?!??! who be slingin dem rox n bustin caps in fools?!?!?!?!?"
:)
"I'm home with da downies."

[Geezah]

You mean there treated differently.
eg: Since blacks are more likely to offend than other ethnic groups, those officers within Operation Trident are more likely to throw black people in jail with less investigation effort since there more likely to be guilty?

???

Wow......you don't get out much do you.

I think you may find that the majority of officers that are involved with Operation Trident are black, can't confirm that though.

[Belrick]

Ok i know youre trying to tell me something but im really confused with your answer now!

Ill put my statement across differently.

Why does the UK law enforcement heads feel that black crime needs to be treated differently?

Judging by your reply your stating that only black cops are being allowed to police black crimes???? Im finding that hard to swallow.

[Geezah]

Ok i know youre trying to tell me something but im really confused with your answer now!

Ill put my statement across differently.

Why does the UK law enforcement heads feel that black crime needs to be treated differently?

Judging by your reply your stating that only black cops are being allowed to police black crimes???? Im finding that hard to swallow.

I'm actually suprised that you have trouble dealing with this, it's well known that immigrants have had to deal with criminal elements from within. You often find that the immigrants will very seldom approach the Police, due in part to fear for any number of reasons.


Here's the information from their website, they can explain it a hell of allot better than I.


Operation Trident

Operation Trident is a special Met Police initiative to tackle gun crime amongst London's black communities. It has a particular focus on drug-related shootings.



The significance of Operation Trident is demonstrated by the fact that it exists as a dedicated Trident operational command unit (OCU) within the Met's Specialist Crime Directorate. It has a substantial number of officers who carry out proactive operations whilst continuing to gather intelligence on the gunmen and developing closer links with other agencies.

Local community support plays an integral part in Operation Trident. An Independent Advisory Group, comprising senior community leaders, helps to create a positive climate for members of black communities to come forward with information about Trident related criminal activity. The group is chaired by Lee Jasper, who is also an adviser to London Mayor Ken Livingstone.This is a sustained and unrelenting response by the Metropolitan Police Service backed up by substantial

The history of Operation Trident

Operation Triden was set up in March 1998 as an intelligence-based initiative in response to a series of shootings and murders in and around the areas of Lambeth and Brent. The majority of these crimes were being perpetrated by black criminals on members of the black communities. The incidents were made harder to investigate because of the unwillingness of witnesses to come forward through fear of reprisals from the criminals involved.

In August 1999, following a continuation of the shootings and murders, Operation Trident was implemented on a London wide scale to co-ordinate resources and intelligence for local officers investigating shootings across the capital. Operation Trident supports area investigations, acting as a central intelligence resource for officers working in the Serious Crime Group's reactive and proactive teams.



The London wide intelligence it collates and co-ordinates is used to disrupt the criminal activity of those responsible for serious offences of drug related violence in the capital. Operation Trident focuses on ensuring an accurate and up to date flow of intelligence which will assist officers on the ground.

Community support was identified at an early stage as being vital. The Trident Independent Advisory Group was formed to harness the support of the community and to help police operations to be better informed. It has remained at the heart of the Trident strategy.

Publicity

Since Trident began, publicity has been a key element of the strategy. It is recognised that the police can only defeat this type of crime by working with the community. So, in conjunction with the Independent Advisory Group, various advertising and publicity work has been undertaken to communicate the messages of Trident to those who most need to hear them.

Link (http://www.met.police.uk/trident/)