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EvanL
02-05-2004, 04:12 PM
CFB VALCARTIER, Que. (CP) - Seventeen soldiers who tested positive for illicit drug use won't be bound for the war on terror in Afghanistan, the Canadian Forces said today.
"The reason why we didn't want to deploy them is for security reasons," said Capt. Mario Couture, a military spokesman.

"We can't afford to have people under the influence of illicit substances while they're conducting patrols."

A Canadian soldier was recently killed in a suicide bomb attack.

A total of 19 soldiers in a unit headed to Afghanistan have tested positive.

The other two were not scheduled to go to the strife-torn area, Couture said.

Twenty-nine soldiers were tested for drugs.

The tests followed searches of the base, near Quebec City, by military police and drug-detecting dogs earlier this week after they received a tip.

The military couldn't immediately say which drugs had been detected and were awaiting results on tests of drugs seized.

A small quantity of drugs was found during the search of several offices and lockers belonging to the 3rd Battalion of the Royal 22nd Regiment at Valcartier, said the National Investigation Service, the investigative arm of the military police.

The 3rd Battalion, which comprises 600 soldiers, will be shipping soldiers to Afghanistan until mid-month and some have already arrived. None of those is under suspicion, Couture said.

"Nobody that was targeted or nobody that was looked into had deployed so the problem was not transferred over to Afghanistan already."

Couture said the military takes a hard line when it comes to drug use.

"It's clear, it's zero tolerance. We don't mess with drugs and all the members know that. They know that when they join the forces and they're reminded during their career. There's no surprise there for them."

He said the military did not take the action just because the troops are being deployed to Afghanistan, known as one of the world's major drug producing regions.

"It's a spot where drugs are available but we just can't afford to have people undermined by illicit substances. They pose a threat to themselves and one to their colleagues."

The 19 could face reprimands or discharge from the forces, the military said in a statement.

"The chain of command is now taking appropriate preventative measures to ensure the safety of troops deployed in Afghanistan," said Lt-Col. Bernard Ouellette, acting commander of 5 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group.

Couture said the military has to grapple with drugs like the rest of society and noted that most in the unit aren't under suspicion.

"Out of that 600, only 30 personnel were targeted and out of that 19 showed positive. If we put that in context, it's not that huge. It's still too much for my taste and the one of the (forces).

Capt. Mark Giles, a spokesman for the National Investigation Service in Ottawa, pointed out the number of soldiers who tested positive in drug tests do not necessarily reflect how many, if any, would be charged.

"Just because X number of people test positive on a drug test for example, that doesn't correspond to the same number of charges under the National Defence Act or otherwise," Giles said.

He said investigators would be concentrating on such angles as whether a soldier possessed or sold drugs.

Giles also could not confirm reports the search earlier this week was sparked by a tip from the RCMP.

Uncle Sam
02-05-2004, 04:24 PM
Damn Canadian Military drug addicts ! :)

California Joe
02-05-2004, 04:25 PM
I blame Duci....I mean Evan L......I mean.... ;)

TriggerPuller
02-05-2004, 04:46 PM
What a bunch of ****birds. couldnt they just wait till they got out of the service. Court martial them and then give them dishonorable discharges after they spend about 5 years in some sort of CC!!!!!!!!!!

TP

California Joe
02-05-2004, 04:54 PM
Christ, we have random tests all the time. It's a clearance issue. Fooking retarded. Never understood that. You join the military you sort of understand that it would be really stupid to get high. Just don't join, go to college and do bong hits. Like every year they bust kids at Annapolis for getting high, Air Force Academy types are busy raping chicks so they don't get high as much....

OldRecon
02-05-2004, 04:56 PM
Back in the old "Berlin wall days" there used to be an exchange programme between units of he Canadian and Norwegian army, where some hand picked Norwegians got a lucky ticket to Canada to stay/train with some Canadian infantry unit there.
When they returned home one of the common observations used to be that "they had a more liberal attitude to drugs over there".
Though from my experience with training alongside Canadians, they generaly appeared to be a good bunch (and better attuned to the winter than the USMC anyway - common mistake by them used to be putting too much clothing on).

TriggerPuller
02-05-2004, 05:00 PM
. Air Force Academy types are busy raping chicks so they don't get high as much.... You are right it wasnt the drugs in this case but the alcohol!!

TP

2Sheds_Jackson
02-05-2004, 05:05 PM
Christ, we have random tests all the time. It's a clearance issue. Fooking retarded. Never understood that. You join the military you sort of understand that it would be really stupid to get high. Just don't join, go to college and do bong hits. Like every year they bust kids at Annapolis for getting high, Air Force Academy types are busy raping chicks so they don't get high as much....

Yeah, the AFA raping program was so successful, that it's now been implemented Air Force-wide. Female servicemembers were a real chalenge, until they were issued the CDM-22b SODUM (strap-on drug use moderator)

California Joe
02-05-2004, 05:06 PM
Yep, alcohol. *opens beer*

Why just the Air Force? Is it a higher percentage than Annapolis or West Point? That **** was wrong.

Uncle Sam
02-05-2004, 06:23 PM
Dude...I am sooo stoned...Wait ! I'm not in the Canadian Military

Dude...I am so sh*t faced drunk...Aaahhh...Much better :)

ChuckThunder
02-05-2004, 08:07 PM
Yep, alcohol. *opens beer*

Why just the Air Force? Is it a higher percentage than Annapolis or West Point? That **** was wrong.

Well the last big scandal here in Annapolis was when a bunch of Mids were using USNA's T3 lines to file share. They got busted and kicked out.

What a bunch of idiots! They just lost out on one of the best schools in the country, and it was paid for!