Moscow Train Explosion Kills at Least 22

[Seraphim]

By JUDITH INGRAM, Associated Press Writer

MOSCOW - An explosion reportedly caused by a suicide bomber ripped through a subway car in Moscow during rush hour Friday morning, killing at least 22 people in what authorities were investigating as an act of terrorism.


A severe fire broke out in the underground train, sending clouds of smoke through the tunnel, and passengers were being evacuated from Avtozavodskaya station, about 300 yards from the site of the explosion, ministry spokesman Viktor Beltsov said.


Beltsov said at least 22 people were killed and 30 wounded, but he could not confirm the cause.


Authorities are investigating the explosion as an act of terrorism, said Kirill Mazurin, spokesman for the Moscow police. He said the death toll could be as high as 30. The Interfax news agency, citing police sources, reported that the attack was carried out by a suicide bomber.


The explosion occurred in the second wagon of a train after it left the Avtozavodskaya station and headed northwest to Paveletskaya station, which is located on Moscow's busy circle line, Mazurin told NTV television. The line that the explosion occurred on is one of Moscow's deepest.


Ambulances crowded the street outside the metro station entrance and paramedics, carrying stretchers or equipment in backpacks, rushed down the steps.


Bystanders stood in snow watching emergency workers treat the wounded outside the station. In one ambulance, medics bandaged the hand of a woman whose face was smeared with blood. In another, a boy appeared uninjured but his face was blackened with soot.


Police immediately barricaded the two metro stations and stopped all traffic between the stations. Dozens of buses were rerouted to deal with the evacuated passengers, clogging up the already busy streets of the Russian capital.


Russian President Vladimir Putin was informed.


Moscow hospitals were put on alert. Russia's Echo of Moscow radio, citing emergency workers, said that more than 150 people suffered from injuries including broken bones, smoke inhalation and burns.


More than 700 people had been evacuated, the ITAR-Tass news agency reported, quoting metro staff. Most Russians are dependent on public transportation, and the spacious train wagons are usually packed tight during rush hour traffic.


The Interfax and ITAR-Tass news agencies said the train wagon was badly damaged.


The Russian capital has been on alert for terrorist attacks following a series of suicide bombings that officials have blamed on Chechen rebels.


In December, a female suicide bomber blew herself up outside the National Hotel across from Moscow's Red Square, killing at least five others. Two suicide bombers blew themselves up at a Moscow rock concert in July, killing themselves and 14 other people. That was followed five days later by an aborted suicide bomb attack at a central Moscow restaurant that killed the sapper trying to defuse the bomb. The suspected attacker was arrested and is awaiting trial.


In August 2000, a bomb exploded at a crowded pedestrian underpass filled with kiosks at Pushkin Square, a popular meeting place located near a metro line. The attack was initially blamed on Chechen rebels, but some police later said that a turf battle between rival businessmen or criminal gangs could have been the motive.

[George W. Bush]

Ouch

[oldsoak]

:( :( :(

[Ghostwolf]

The death toll now stands at 40, and possibly more than 100 people injured.

General location of the blast:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39827000/gif/_39827693_moscow_metro_map203.gif

From BBC news:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3464545.stm

[Kingpin]

Metro almost stop working. I had to take taxi to arrive at my office. Awful event. Our company have communication center on this metro line. Worriyng about my colleagues.

[Groove]

:(

Latest informations in Germany are that it was a Suidide Bomber - a Woman with about 1 KG TNT.

RIP to all this ppl died there - i hate this suicide ****ers more than all things.

Groove

[Kingpin]

http://pics.utro.ru/utro_photos/gallery/20040206metro/16.jpg


This is street near entrance to metro station now

[ShotOver]

About 40 people died and at least 100 were injured when an explosion tore apart a carriage in the Moscow subway during morning rush hour on Friday, media reports said, with police saying it was probably a suicide bombing.

Eyewitnesses, some of them covered with blood, spoke of carnage when the blast hit a subway carriage between two stations in southeast Moscow around 8.40am (1640 AEDT) on Friday.

Interfax news agency put the number of dead at around 40, with the toll expected to rise, and emergency officials said at least 100 people could have been inside each subway carriage at the time.

"The number of killed and injured is being checked," an emergencies ministry official told Interfax.

"There are body fragments, so the number of those killed is likely to change."





Outside the Avtozavodskaya station, the closest to the train when the blast occurred, distraught parents searched for their children.

"My daughter is there," a woman in her 50s shouted repeatedly.

"We saw them carrying bodies and injured covered in blood," said a woman who works in a shop 100 metres from the station.

The woman, who did not give her name, said a man had walked into her shop covered in blood asking for a vodka.

He told her he was in another car of the train and walked out of the tunnel, past the worst affected carriage.

"He told us that he saw arms, legs, scattered around the carriage," the woman said. "He said it was bloody carnage."

Moscow city police spokesman Kirill Mazulin said: "There is no doubt that it was a terrorist act.

"The bomb was probably on a kamikaze terrorist" and had the power of 1kg of TNT, Mazulin said.

The blast sparked a raging fire and smoke poured out of the station as more than 100 ambulances and fire trucks rushed to site.

Security measures were tightened across the Moscow metro, which has more than 100 stations in the city of some 10 million people.

Similar measure were taken in Russia's second city of Saint Petersburg, officials said.

The FSB (ex-KGB) security service also said the blast was an "attack" the ITAR-TASS news agency reported.

The blast occurred as the train was heading towards the centre of the Russian capital between the Avtozavodskaya and Paveletskaya stations in southeast Moscow.

Rebels from Chechnya, where separatists have been fighting Russian troops for more than four years, have staged suicide attacks in Russia with increasing frequency during the past year.

The last attack blamed on Chechen rebels killed six people and the female suicide bomber on December 9 outside the National Hotel in downtown Moscow, near the Kremlin.

The blast comes a little more than a month before presidential elections in Russia, during which President Vladimir Putin, who launched the latest Chechen war, is widely expected to be reelected.

More than two hours after the blast, there was no official reaction from the Kremlin.



©AAP 2004

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[Luxembourger]

those muslim terrorists are at war with every nation with everything that does not share their religion

RIP to all !

[Sergei]

those muslim terrorists are at war with every nation with everything that does not share their religion

RIP to all !

Hmm, but Europe still doesn't arrest Zakaev, who is behind the financing of all those suicide bombers. Most of the money to chechen terrorists and suicide bombers are coming from Europe (Londone, Paris etc.) where there is a large number of muslims. Why do european authorities close their eyes on this?
It hit Russia today, tomorrow it will hit Europe. I don't know why the european politicians are being so short-sighted.

[Aegirsson]

those muslim terrorists are at war with every nation

"Muslim".


where there is a large number of muslims.

Once again don't compare muslims with extremists.

[UkrainianAmerican]

those muslim terrorists are at war with every nation with everything that does not share their religion

RIP to all !

Hmm, but Europe still doesn't arrest Zakaev, who is behind the financing of all those suicide bombers. Most of the money to chechen terrorists and suicide bombers are coming from Europe (Londone, Paris etc.) where there is a large number of muslims. Why do european authorities close their eyes on this?
It hit Russia today, tomorrow it will hit Europe. I don't know why the european politicians are being so short-sighted.
Well, to be fair, why does russia still support Iranian nuke ambitions. Iran is on the same team as chechens, palestinians, and kashmiri f*cks/

[UkrainianAmerican]

those muslim terrorists are at war with every nation

"Muslim".


where there is a large number of muslims.

Once again don't compare muslims with extremists.
For some reason these "extremists" always happen to be there where there is a sizable muslim population.
But nevermind its just a coincidece... :roll:

[oldsoak]

Kingpin - your colleagues ok ?

[Falco]

Kingpin - your colleagues ok ?

RIP to the victims. I hope your mates made it ok.

[Dmitri]

Once again don't compare muslims with extremists.Yeah, it just happens to be that most extremists are muslim. I hope the b#tch that sett off that bomb burns in hell now :fork: :bash: :-*$

[Kingpin]

AFAIK anyone is ok. But actually we're very large organisation. >600 people in Moscow alone. Now stations full of patrols but i suppose this can't help already. Some people looking nerviously around and in the eyes of each other with silent question:
- Are you terrorist?
- No. What about you?

But in general people do not show any signs of fear or panic. Metro full of passengers.

[obd]

I just want to be the first to issue my regards and condolences to the Russian members of our comminty such as 16 obr spn and P-OMON. This attack has special relevance for me, and for them, and for this forum as the topic of the Chechen war has come up quite often and recently. I hope no family or friends were woudned or killed in this attack by the Chechens.......RIP to the innocents killed just going about thier lives............ To the Cechens, or to whoever did this, I hope a 7.62mm finds you in the middle fo the night somehwere asleep and sends you off nice and quite to your 72 virgins. There is no doubt in my mind that Russia, chechnya and America now have the same enemy: Islamic radicals who have taken on prominance in Chechnya and have changed it from a moderate but fiercely independent nation into more of an "Islamic Republic", who have proven they will not stop with control of Chechnya and will attack Russia (ex: Dagestan) when they are given the chance, and who attacked and continue to threaten America and its people all across the globe. I support the Chechen people and thier freedom and I do not support Russia's methods of waging war in the region but I support 100% thier fight against radical Islamists which, of late, have become a major force of radicalization in Chechnya. I give my best wishes to those Russian soldiers in Chechnya who have fought with honor and have not committed any crimes even in the face of poverty, poor diet, stress, and worry about family. May you truly give all the "Shaheeds" (sp?) thier wish................

[Tengu]

RIP to all those victims and i just want to issue my regards and condolences to the families.


It hit Russia today, tomorrow it will hit Europe. I don't know why the european politicians are being so short-sighted.idd one day they will hit europe and the real war can begin.

[RomanS]

WHERE ARE YOU MUSLIM *** SUCKING LOVERS NOW??????

speak up you faggots, supporting Chechens? oh come on

WHY QUIET NOW YOU FAGGOTS ????????????????????

[RomanS]

Metro Paveletzkaya, is where I lived !

COme on you assholes, speak up how innocent the chechen terrorists ARE!!!!!!

[Seoulstriker]

:( :( :(

and they're just getting started over there. :(



you don't need to be a muslim extremist to be a terrorist. :|

[Trident-za]

:( :(

RIP.

The really crap thing about the "war on terror" is that the terrorists consider the entire planet to be the battlefield - they don't need to do all their "strikes" in Iraq.

[Undo]

Just to clarify PersmkiiOMONs situation, he found out this morning that a childhood friend is among the dead.

R.I.P. to all but the terrorist. May all these "extremists" rot in hell, and may they be sent there before they get the chance to carry out such cowardly acts.

I have no words.

[2Sheds_Jackson]

May the demented POS behind this rot in hell. RIP to all the victims & their families.

[SeanAshi]

Once again don't compare muslims with extremists.
Its hard not too, muslims seem to be behind every terrorist attack that pops up on the news, Russia, Chechnya, United States, Israel, Turkey, France, Philippines, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Spain, Morocco, England, How many Jews and Christians were involved in terrorist activites in those countries?

[usa320]

I think i speak for everyone here when i say this increase in terrorism must come to an end. Now. Enough is enough with political correctness and pleasing the limp wristen french people... Its time that the lines be redrawn. There is no nuetral position in this new world- this new war. You are good, or you are evil. There is no where in between. People that blow themselves to shreds, taking women and children with them deserve no place in this world. I think its time that the US and Russia work together to end this threat. The world needs to join forces and launch covert and swift assaults in iran, Somalia, Yemen, Sudan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Lebenon, Syria, Phillipines, Libya and Chechnya. The longer the free world sits around and tries to bargain with liberals and communists in Europe, the graver this threat becomes. It is only a matter of time before there is another major attack in the United States. It is only a matter of time before someone attacks Europe. The world cannot wait, but the US cannot confront this threat alone. The Cooperation of every nation is needed, and a serious, concerted law inforcement, intelligence and military effort must be made. Muslim Extremists, narco-terrorists, Left wing rebels, Neo-nazis, communist rebels, warlords- they all must face the same fate. Terrorist groups arent seperate, on the contrary, terrorism is one big network. Terrorist groups rely on eachother- they rely on one another for funding, and documents, and arms, and expertise. we must end this shadowy exchange of arms and money and people. Only until the rest of the world gets serious about this, can we make a sharp effort at it.

Id also like to express my sympathies for those who were lost, and let may say, i hope that in the sake of justice that the world unites to hunt down and punish those responsible for this heartless act of murder.

[usa320]

one day they will hit europe and the real war can begin.

People shouldnt have to die before Europe realizes the threat posed by terrorism.

[StarvingStudent47]

RIP for the victims and swift vengeance against the organization that carried out this horrific attack on innocent civilians...

[EvanL]

RIP.
My condolences to all the russians on this board, for i to have felt the sting of terrorism first hand. I hope they whipe the floor with these terrorist scum.

[UoUo]

Rip to the victims. :(

I hope russia will kick those ****ing terroists ass.


But honesty russia should stop helping the iranian to build Nukes.
Cuz it can be used against them sonner or later.

[anonymous individual]

Rest in Peace :(

[Tengu]

People shouldnt have to die before Europe realizes the threat posed by terrorism.Idd they shouldnt, but our politicians in belgium seem to think so.
Sure we arrest terrorists like crazy, but we should be out there in iraq (however we are in afghanistan).

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Russian emergency workers carry stretchers for the victims of an explosion on the Moscow metro at Avtozavodskaya metro station, February 6, 2004. Russian President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites), speaking after the explosion on a Moscow underground train killed up to 40 people, said on Friday that terrorism must be defeated, Itar-Tass news agency said. *******/Konstantin Koutsyllo
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Russian President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) said 'terrorism is the plague of the 21st century' after a bomb blast on a Moscow subway killed at least 30 people during morning rush hour.(AFP/POOL/File/Sergey Ponomarev)
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In this image taken from TV rescue workers carry a stretcher with a wounded passenger from the Moscow metro outside Avtozavodskaya station Friday, Feb. 6, 2004. An explosion hit the Moscow metro during Friday morning rush hour, killing at least 30 people and wounding dozens and sending clouds of smoke through the tunnel. (AP Photo/ NTV, Independent Russian Television)http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040206/capt.mosb10402061027.russia_explosion_mosb104.jpg
Ambulance cars wait for wounded outside Paveletskaya metro station Friday, Feb. 6, 2004. An explosion hit the Moscow metro during Friday morning rush hour, killing at least 30 people, wounding dozens of others and sending clouds of smoke through the tunnel. (AP Photo/ Misha Japaridze)
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Emergency Situations Ministry rescuers rush to the Paveletskaya metro station Friday, Feb. 6, 2004. An explosion hit the Moscow metro during Friday morning rush hour, killing at least 30 people, wounding dozens of others and sending clouds of smoke through the tunnel. (AP Photo/ Misha Japaridze)
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In this image taken from TV rescue workers carry a stretcher with a wounded passenger from the Moscow metro outside Avtozavodskaya station Friday, Feb. 6, 2004. An explosion hit the Moscow metro during Friday morning rush hour, killing at least 30 people and wounding dozens and sending clouds of smoke through the tunnel. (AP Photo/ NTV, Independent Russian Television)
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In this image taken from TV rescue workers carry a stretcher with a wounded passenger from the Moscow metro outside Avtozavodskaya station Friday, Feb. 6, 2004. An explosion hit the Moscow metro during Friday morning rush hour, killing at least 30 people and wounding dozens and sending clouds of smoke through the tunnel. (AP Photo/ NTV, Independent Russian Television)
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A Russian Emergencies Ministry specialist provides first aid assistance in the carriage after a blast in the Moscow metro, February 6, 2004. At least 40 people were killed in a morning rush-hour explosion on a train in the central Moscow metro (underground) railway, Interfax news agency quoted ambulance sources saying. NO ARCHIVE *******/Viktor Habarov/STOLICHAYA NEWSPAPER
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Russian casualty of an explosion is led away form the Paveletskaya metro station in central Moscow, February 6, 2004. At least 40 people were killed in a morning rush-hour explosion on a train in the central Moscow metro (underground) railway, Interfax news agency quoted ambulance sources saying. *******/Alexander Natruskin
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Russian rescue workers carry a casualty of a blast at a metro station in central Moscow, February 6, 2004. At least 40 people were killed in a morning rush-hour explosion on a train in the central Moscow metro (underground) railway, Interfax news agency quoted ambulance sources saying. (NO ARCHIVE.) *******/Vladimir Gerdo/STOLICHNAYA NEWSPAPER
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Interior Ministry officers speak to wounded passenger outside Paveletskaya station Friday, Feb. 6, 2004. An explosion hit the Moscow metro during Friday morning rush hour, killing at least 30 people and wounding 30 and sending clouds of smoke through the tunnel. (AP Photo/ Misha Japaridze)
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Russian policemen guard Moscow's Red Square. At least 22 people were killed and 30 injured when a blast ripped through a train car on the Moscow subway during the morning rush hour(AFP/File)
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Rescue workers outside a metro station in Moscow in this frame from TV, Friday, Feb. 6, 2004. An explosion hit the Moscow metro during Friday morning rush hour, killing at least 22 people and wounding 30 and sending clouds of smoke through the tunnel, the Emergency Situations Ministry said. A severe fire broke out in the underground train and passengers were being evacuated from Avtozavodskaya station, said Viktor Beltsov, spokesman for the Emergency Situations Ministry. The cause of the explosion is not known at this time. (AP Photo / APTN)
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Rescue workers outside a metro station in Moscow in this frame from TV , Friday, Feb. 6, 2004. An explosion hit the Moscow metro during Friday morning rush hour, killing at least 22 people and wounding 30 and sending clouds of smoke through the tunnel, the Emergency Situations Ministry said. A severe fire broke out in the underground train and passengers were being evacuated from Avtozavodskaya station, said Viktor Beltsov, spokesman for the Emergency Situations Ministry. The cause of the explosion is not known at this time. (AP Photo / APTN)

[SeanAshi]

COme on you assholes, speak up how innocent the chechen terrorists ARE!!!!!!
RIP, we all hate war, but these terrorist attacks must never go unanswered, these terrorist must learn with each attack against civilians there will be a heavy price to pay.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Just to clarify PersmkiiOMONs situation, he found out this morning that a childhood friend is among the dead.

R.I.P. to all but the terrorist. May all these "extremists" rot in hell, and may they be sent there before they get the chance to carry out such cowardly acts.

I have no words.
Blyad. Ya ochen sozhaleyu o poteri tvoih zhankomih roman. :(

[Nizark]

Metro Paveletzkaya, is where I lived !

COme on you assholes, speak up how innocent the chechen terrorists ARE!!!!!!

I'm sorry about your town and friend....RIP to the innocent.

Maybe Russia needs a Operation Chechnyian Freedom! Liberate some heads from bodies!

[16 OBr SpN]

The girl who works at my office lives in that area, and uses metro to come to work. Thank God she is OK!

RIP to all the victims.

[RomanS]

Korobov Ruslan Urievich
18 years old

I grew up with him, he was the youngest one in our group of kids.

He tolled me 4 months ago, he was going to the Army this spring.

I lost friends when I was young in Afghanistan ,

I lost friends in Chechnya when I was in school

I lost a friend in a terrorist attack

what the **** did i do ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[RomanS]

16
bro glad to hear that she's ok

He was going to school in the morning.

Where does you friend lives?

I lived 10 minutes from Paveletzkaya, Dubiniskaya uliza. Right near Danilovskii Monsatyr.

I took my American friends to this train station last summer, to show them where I lived.

[anonymous individual]

Korobov Ruslan Urievich
18 years old

I grew up with him, he was the youngest one in our group of kids.

He tolled me 4 months ago, he was going to the Army this spring.

I lost friends when I was young in Afghanistan ,

I lost friends in Chechnya when I was in school

I lost a friend in a terrorist attack

what the f*** did i do ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I am sorry for you. :(

[GazB]

Well, to be fair, why does russia still support Iranian nuke ambitions. Iran is on the same team as chechens, palestinians, and kashmiri f*cks/


Russia is earning 6 billion in foreign currency by building a civilian power station in Iran. If the US really wanted them to not do it they could offer them 7 billion in cash that does not need to be returned and I am sure they would not build it. At the time I believe the response from the US was to threaten withdrawing 2 billion in loans, but 6 billion in earned money is worth rather more than 2 billion you have to pay back with interest. I doubt Russian wants a nucelar armed Iran any more than you do, but when you need money you don't turn down jobs like this.


But honesty russia should stop helping the iranian to build Nukes.
Cuz it can be used against them sonner or later.

Then give them a financial alternative.

PermskiiOMON, I think a visit to the Panksi gorge is in order...


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[UoUo]

As you put it this way....maybe the US should give Russia some money, in return Russia will stop the aid to iran...

Anyway...let's not go Offtopic...

RIP to the victims. :(

[usa320]

I think that the money idea does sound as a viable option to end Russian aid to iran, but in the long run Iran is going to get an ass whomping, with or without nukes... Money and some TNT given to the right people is just as effective as no-dong missiles.

Lets just say chechens are damn lucky people right now- as to say they are lucky i am not president of the United States, because if i was, the Al Queda fagbags in Chechnya would be facing the same end that their "brothers" in Afghanistan, Iraq and Yemen got.

[EvanL]

I think that the money idea does sound as a viable option to end Russian aid to iran, but in the long run Iran is going to get an ass whomping, with or without nukes... Money and some TNT given to the right people is just as effective as no-dong missiles.

Lets just say chechens are damn lucky people right now- as to say they are lucky i am not president of the United States, because if i was, the Al Queda fagbags in Chechnya would be facing the same end that their "brothers" in Afghanistan, Iraq and Yemen got.
The U.S. wouldnt attack Chechnya. If you did it would be a dumb movie. Unless of course you had Russian approval, which im sure they would never give to the american military.
How about some of those covert ops your always talking about usa320? Thats a good solution for everything.
The Russians are a strong proud people, they wont take **** from terrorist scum, and they sure as hell wouldnt let another country get to them before they do.

[volfram]

I condemn terrorist method of fight,but russians crimes in Chechnya are uncomparably biger."Operation Chechnya freedom"? -ha.If freedom for you means exterminating remains of this nation i am afraid you can count on it.They already kill thousend of Chechens,mostly innocent civilians,burning whole villages together with inhabitants.European council described very clearly what happen there-genocide.Genocide is worst then terrorism.

[oldsoak]

Wolfram , a little sensitivity please. Telling someone who has lost a friend due to a terrorist attack that what their country does elsewhere is a worse crime will only raise the temperature.

[Javehn]

RIP , bro's .
Учавствую в твоем горе , знаю какая жопа терять так друзей .
It's a time for жопилка разносилка Chechen ball lickers ...

[Javehn]

Double ...

[volfram]

Well sorry but i think all people schould be treated equaly and when i hear sorry to russians victims and never heard a word of sorrow to Chechens killed by Russians i simply think it is just not fair.

[GazB]

As you put it this way....maybe the US should give Russia some money, in return Russia will stop the aid to iran...

It doesn't need to be charity. They could hire the Russians to build some nuclear power plants in the US or whereever. Or a joint venture designing something like a miniture nuclear powersupply that might be safe enough for space travel or whatever, for their trip to mars or for use in a space station.




Well sorry but i think all people schould be treated equaly and when i hear sorry to russians victims and never heard a word of sorrow to Chechens killed by Russians i simply think it is just not fair.

I have read most of the posts here on the war in Chechnia and I have yet to read a post from a Pro Russian intervention person saying that it is good or OK to kill innocent civilians Chechen or otherwise. Civilians that aide and support Chechen terrorists is of course another matter.

[Sixgun Symphony]

Hmm, but Europe still doesn't arrest Zakaev, who is behind the financing of all those suicide bombers. Most of the money to chechen terrorists and suicide bombers are coming from Europe (Londone, Paris etc.) where there is a large number of muslims. Why do european authorities close their eyes on this?
It hit Russia today, tomorrow it will hit Europe. I don't know why the european politicians are being so short-sighted.

Too many over there in Europe have the hippie worldview, thats why. The muslims are flooding in to live on the public dole and thats the way these liberal Europeans seem to like it.

[Dmitri]

I condemn terrorist method of fight,but russians crimes in Chechnya are uncomparably biger."Operation Chechnya freedom"? -ha.If freedom for you means exterminating remains of this nation i am afraid you can count on it.They already kill thousend of Chechens,mostly innocent civilians,burning whole villages together with inhabitants.European council described very clearly what happen there-genocide.Genocide is worst then terrorism.
STFU, you don't know jack about what's going on there. Go read up on some of the threads about Chechnya and that Afghani dude. People like you, saying stupid crap they have no idea about, besides reading some pro-muslim anti-any-war activist newspapers, make me sick :backhand:

[volfram]

I condemn terrorist method of fight,but russians crimes in Chechnya are uncomparably biger."Operation Chechnya freedom"? -ha.If freedom for you means exterminating remains of this nation i am afraid you can count on it.They already kill thousend of Chechens,mostly innocent civilians,burning whole villages together with inhabitants.European council described very clearly what happen there-genocide.Genocide is worst then terrorism.
STFU, you don't know jack about what's going on there. Go read up on some of the threads about Chechnya and that Afghani dude. People like you, saying stupid crap they have no idea about, besides reading some pro-muslim anti-any-war activist newspapers, make me sick :backhand:
Not like you i beased my opinion on free media,but you in Russia dont know meaning of this word.I also read and listen carefully what people like you say.About cuting ears inhabitants of vilage to force them to cooperate with Russians,this information i read in one of your friend post.

[UkrainianAmerican]

I condemn terrorist method of fight,but russians crimes in Chechnya are uncomparably biger."Operation Chechnya freedom"? -ha.If freedom for you means exterminating remains of this nation i am afraid you can count on it.They already kill thousend of Chechens,mostly innocent civilians,burning whole villages together with inhabitants.European council described very clearly what happen there-genocide.Genocide is worst then terrorism.
STFU, you don't know jack about what's going on there. Go read up on some of the threads about Chechnya and that Afghani dude. People like you, saying stupid crap they have no idea about, besides reading some pro-muslim anti-any-war activist newspapers, make me sick :backhand:
Not like you i beased my opinion on free media,but you in Russia dont know meaning of this word.I also read and listen carefully what people like you say.About cuting ears inhabitants of vilage to force them to cooperate with Russians,this information i read in one of your friend post.
Um, I think Dmitry is American... :cantbeli:

[Kingpin]

Not like you i beased my opinion on free media,but you in Russia dont know meaning of this word.I also read and listen carefully what people like you say.About cuting ears inhabitants of vilage to force them to cooperate with Russians,this information i read in one of your friend post.

BTW if someone don't know Dmitry and Russian Texan both live in US :) :) :)

[Dmitri]

Not like you i beased my opinion on free media,but you in Russia dont know meaning of this word.I also read and listen carefully what people like you say.I read this "free media" from both Russian and English sources, and I listen to what people like you say also, you are full of poo-poo. Just be glad your country is not a neighbour to muslim countries

[Dmitri]

double post

[Kenshin]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040206/capt.mosb12002061829.russia_explosion_mosb120.jpg

That station looks so pleasingly peaceful. How on earth can someone think of blowing a bomb in a subway used by innocent people?

Our condolonces..

My russian friend is booked the earliest flight to moscow to check with his family in moscow.

[Midav]

RIP :(

[obd]

Right GazB, let the US "offer" Russia 7 billion not to build a nuclear power plant in Iran....and then right after that we can fork over hundreds of billions to the next 50 nations in line to do the same damn thing knowing they can blackmail us for money. What an idiotic idea!!!!! The fact of the matter is that Russia is being irresponsible with its nuclear technology. The United States is ALREADY paying for disposal of Russian nuclear waste since they cant afford to do it themselves and the United States is ALREADY buying off old nuclear warheads so corrupt Russian officers dont sell them to the nearest terrorists who, by the way, is just as likely to use them in Moscow as they are New York City.........

The fact of the matter is that Russia needs money so they are going to sell nuclear technology to the devil for cash. Lets be clear here, the Iranians ideologically suppport the Chechen islamists, they support Al Queda's aims of wiping out the west despite that they are Shiite and AQ is mostly Sunni, they support the terrorirsts against Israel, they support the terrosits who tried to poison the water supply in france, who were found with ricin poison in England, who had planns to wage a bomb campaign in Germany, to destroy the eifel tower, to destroy "Big Ben" and British parliament, who blew up the subway station in Moscow this past week etc etc etc so to give them nuclear plants is like giving a bullet and a gun to your worst enemy's best freind. Mark my words, eventually its gonna bite the Russians in the ass. I can only hope a Russian nuke doesnt go off in one of my nations cities. If Americans were selling nukes to "Islamic Republics" with known terrorist connections then I would hope that, if anything did happen, it would happen to us and not another country that did not sell it to enemy.

Its not America's responsibility alone to "buy off or else" Russian weapons. It is Russian's own problem and they should deal with it before it becomes the worlds problem.

Seeing as virtually every nation on earth accept a few are looking to become nuclear powers and a great many are hiding their ambitions in the hopes they can become a nuclear power and thus be "untouchable", the only way to stop the spread of them is to launch an all out war against the nation before they acquire it. In the case of Iran, I say the United States should make an example of what will happen when a nation whose unelected leader seeks to acquire nuclear technology right after giving a speech in which he calls for "all the people of the corrupt infidel west to be burned in hell fire on earth from the faithful Muslums who will come together to destroy the west utterly and completely" and "we will have a meeting of all those just Ilsamic faithful to speek of how we can destroy the devil US utterly so that they may be wiped clean from this world and so that we may spread the way of Islam to all the corners of the earth and so the whole world may become, god willing, faithful to god.".

Im sorry, but that signals to me its time that ****er burns in "hell on earth" himslef (Im thinking napalm strike at the moment) along with all his "faithful followers" who wish to defend him. There is alot I disagree with Prez. Bush on (economy, environment, education, etc etc) but I hope to hell he takes it to the Iranians and the North Koreans big time!! It may be bloody, but when its all over and those nations have been beaten to the ground, I think alot fewer will see the attainment of nuclear warheads while being an enemy to the United States as the way to remain secure. I think it will more likely create a situation where "The highest dandy lion gets cut down by the baldes the soonest".

I think it s clear that as long as we give North Korea any "respect" its only gonna strenthen the idea that ounce you have one nuke, even one, the US will shake in its boots at the thought of you. Kim Jong's own official press has also spoken of such things as "burning the United States in a nuclear fire of which the world has never seen before" and unending other things.....If we continue to bow down to that like the North Koreans have anyting aother than alotta of damn starving people then we look helpless. Iraq never had nukes nor did Saddam EVER openly talk of attacking the contenetal United States or its people. Saddam was brutal and unjust and egomeniacal but he was also a smart survivor....North Korea admits to them...... and Kim Jong is a absolute psychotic lunatic moronic power hundry depserate man.........yet he sits well and very much alive as I type..........whats wrong with this picture.......

[tony6]

I read this "free media" from both Russian and English sources, and I listen to what people like you say also, you are full of poo-poo. Just be glad your country is not a neighbour to muslim countries
Well-what countries are You talking about? Chechnya? If so-errorists have just achieved one of their goals-You admitted that it is an independent country (which is not true of course).

[volfram]

Not like you i beased my opinion on free media,but you in Russia dont know meaning of this word.I also read and listen carefully what people like you say.I read this "free media" from both Russian and English sources, and I listen to what people like you say also, you are full of poo-poo. Just be glad your country is not a neighbour to muslim countries
I know what it is to be neighbour of Russia.

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volfram, stop digging your hole

[Herrmannek]

volfram, stop digging your hole
He expect huricane fire, so he must dig very very deep hole

[Kingpin]

Moscow's metro

http://www.metro.ru/stations/lyublinskaya/chkalovskaya/135.jpg


Chkalovskaya station

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Dubrovka station

http://www.metro.ru/stations/lyublinskaya/lyublino/142.jpg


Lyublino station

http://www.metro.ru/stations/kalininskaya/shosse_entuziastov/160.jpg


Shosse Entuziastov station

http://www.metro.ru/stations/zamoskvoretskaya/paveletskaya/paveletskaya(rad).jpg


Paveletskaya station

http://www.metro.ru/map/2004.gif

[GazB]

Right GazB, let the US "offer" Russia 7 billion not to build a nuclear power plant in Iran....and then right after that we can fork over hundreds of billions to the next 50 nations in line to do the same damn thing knowing they can blackmail us for money.

Well if you are going to make it sound like blackmail of course it will be abused.
Make it sound like a business opportunity. Build X number of nuclear powerplants in the west for 7 billion dollars. You can only have the contract if you stop helping the Iranians build power stations.

Your other threats won't work and will probably end up costing rather more.

If you had gathered together half the amount of money you spent bombing Vietnam and neighbouring countries and just handed it to them to stop them invading the south you might have saved a lot of money and not have needed a wall to record all of your dead.


The fact of the matter is that Russia is being irresponsible with its nuclear technology.

The fact of the matter is they need to earn money, and they are building a civilians power station for one of their neighbours. Their technology belongs to them. They can sell to anyone they like... if you want to outbid some of their customers then that is up to you. Russia signed the Nonproliferation treaty and the US has no proof whatsoever that they are violating that treaty or they would say so... so stop whining. If the US can invade any country it likes on a whim or for oil then Russia can deal with whomever it pleases.


The United States is ALREADY paying for disposal of Russian nuclear waste since they cant afford to do it themselves and the United States is ALREADY buying off old nuclear warheads so corrupt Russian officers dont sell them

The US is supporting the disposal of Russian nuclear materials because it is in its interests to do so, and certainly not for any charitible reasons.


The fact of the matter is that Russia needs money so they are going to sell nuclear technology to the devil for cash.

If that were the case NY will be glowing very shortly. The facts are that the Russian security for nuclear materials are just as effective as American protections.


this past week etc etc etc so to give them nuclear plants is like giving a bullet and a gun to your worst enemy's best freind.

Like US and UK support for Chechens?


Its not America's responsibility alone to "buy off or else" Russian weapons. It is Russian's own problem and they should deal with it before it becomes the worlds problem.

Of course it is not the US's fault... it never is. The cold war, the missile gap... the bomber gap... all the fault of those nasty Commies.


North Korea admits to them...... and Kim Jong is a absolute psychotic lunatic moronic power hundry depserate man.........yet he sits well and very much alive as I type..........whats wrong with this picture.......

What is wrong with this picture is that the US through you seems to have become quite trigger happy and scary. If you are going to go around and start bombing every country that doesn't do things the way you like them to you are going to lose friends.

North Korea is a cornered rat. Al qada is a ghost. Iran is actually reforming rather more than you give it credit for. If you are going to go in and beat them all with the same stick then expect some resistance. NK is reported to actually have nukes already. Attack them and watch Seoul glow... and possibly Tokyo too.


Its not America's responsibility alone to "buy off or else" Russian weapons. It is Russian's own problem and they should deal with it before it becomes the worlds problem.

The USA has no responsiblity whatsoever at all to help Russia in any way. Of course the consequences for doing nothing might be more than you can bear.
When you have nothing then you have nothing to lose. This is America's world... it is in your interest to keep it the way it is. How much you spend on buying nukes (You can 't buy back something that was never yours) will effect how effective your ABM system and other security has to be...

BTW nuclear weapons are nothing... try Ebola.

[oldsoak]

BTW nuclear weapons are nothing... try Ebola.

Sad but true. WMD no longer need a missile system for delivery. A nutter with a passport does the job quite adequately. What we really need is concordats with the "demon" states of Russia and PRC. We scratch their back and they scratch ours. We dont attempt to embarass or destabilise them in their sphere of influence, they oblige by doing the same thing to us.