Beat yer kids!!

[Guttorm]

( I actually wrote the topic in all caps first... But I rememberd that it was one of the seven dealy sins... )

http://maddox.xmission.com/beat.html

Hehe, I love this site...

And whats worng with a little HARSH disipline? My father hit me when I ****ed up, and I'll hit my kids... Me and Dennis Leary. :D

[Falco]

I don't have kids, but I think spanking shouldn't be illegal. At least it did me good ;)

[Haiw]

Beating kids is lame... not that I ever was, but corporal punishment is stupid.

[farmgirl]

There is a huge difference between beating children and discipline.

Discipline does not have to be corporal. Personally, I feel that not disciplining children is abusive.
I'm not saying that I beat my children. I do not EVER believe in beating children. Spanking is NOT beating. I was spanked as a child, and I have spanked my kids on occasion. However, I don't find it the most effective form of discipline, so I don't choose it very often. (come to think of it... I'm not sure I have ever spanked my son, and I think I have spanked my daughter twice... when she was much younger)
My daughter is at the age when taking away the phone and/or the computer is far more effective.
Children need and want (whether they know it or not) rules. They need structure. (I'm not talking about a concentration camp)

I think the most important thing is making sure that the rules are clear and sticking by them.

I have two kids, and so far, they seem to be turning out okay. I'll have to get back to you in a few years with the final results.

[Haiw]

and I think I have spanked my daughter twice... when she was much younger)
What's the status on the plastic surgery, are the scars beginning to fade already?

[farmgirl]

and I think I have spanked my daughter twice... when she was much younger)
What's the status on the plastic surgery, are the scars beginning to fade already?


rofl funny Haiw. :)
Maybe I should clarify "spanking." What I refer to as spanking is a couple of swats on the butt. I have never hit one of my kids hard enough to hurt them. I've smacked hands on occasion....
My daughter is incredibly strong willed, so spanking didn't work for her. I swear to god she could out last the people at Bragg who train SF for time as POW's.

[SOG]

lets put it this way, my mom spanked my ass, more often my dad and yes he did go to far sometimes but generally it was very effective. or i could have eneded up like my cousins kids in which they were disciplined with everything but spanking which had ZERO effect on them and thier own grandparents told my cousin aka thier daughter, you are welcome here, your kids are not, until you get them under control. needless to say they didnt see thier grandparents again until thier grandpa died. thats ****in sad. also not all kids are the same even at young age levels and different punishments work waaaay differently. use what works. dont be a pc pussy.

[NcDeuce]

There is a huge difference between beating children and discipline.

Discipline does not have to be corporal. Personally, I feel that not disciplining children is abusive.
I'm not saying that I beat my children. I do not EVER believe in beating children. Spanking is NOT beating. I was spanked as a child, and I have spanked my kids on occasion. However, I don't find it the most effective form of discipline, so I don't choose it very often. (come to think of it... I'm not sure I have ever spanked my son, and I think I have spanked my daughter twice... when she was much younger)
My daughter is at the age when taking away the phone and/or the computer is far more effective.
Children need and want (whether they know it or not) rules. They need structure. (I'm not talking about a concentration camp)

I think the most important thing is making sure that the rules are clear and sticking by them.

I have two kids, and so far, they seem to be turning out okay. I'll have to get back to you in a few years with the final results.

Word

I was 'spanked' when I was young...it sucked, yeah but it worked. Dad + Anger + Belt = :oops:

I don't remember doing this but my dad sure does. When I was like a baby, I peed on my dad's Class A's. I can't even remember what happened to me afterwards. Good times. :lol:

[Kriz]

Me and my brother got spanked sometimes when we were younger. Now we are involved in legal lawsuits against our parents rofl

Not really :P we were spanked however (on very rare occasions) but I'm glad my parents did it when it was necessary. I would do the same with my children, if I ever have children off course.

Like farmgirl said, children need structure, discipline and clear rules. Some children might easily accept that but others might cause more problems, so for some children or some occasions a spanking on the but isn't wrong in my opinion. It's better then always giving in to your children and making spoiled arrogant brats out of them.

[Roger Rabbit]

I was hit the odd time as a child, did me the world of good i think.

[11F5S]

Jack Mehoff spanks his monkey all the time. It's definately abusive behavior for such a big muscular guy to continuously beat such a little thing

[Armour recon]

I could discus about this subject for long time. I think in some level it is acceptable. Sometimes just talking don't do the trick, and you have to show the bastard who is in control. I had it when i was a kid. My parent's were always working, well mom at least cos' my dad was more intrested in drinking and hanging out with his friends. So after school I had go to my grandparents. My granpa is old timer Lt.Col so the discipline was like it was in his youth.

Im 22, and I call my generation the "donut generation". I can clearly see that most of them had nobody to guide them, when they were 5-11 years old. They are bit***** about everything! But that's just my view...

[Dalleer]

Im 22, and I call my generation the "donut generation". I can clearly see that most of them had nobody to guide them, when they were 5-11 years old. They are bit***** about everything! But that's just my view...

Hmm....

I must be a part of the "Jello donut generation" then, I guess it just keeps on getting sweeter.

[11F5S]

I don't buy the "my parents spanked me and look how I great I turned out" argument.

I would never resort to hitting/spanking a child, because in doing so all it proves is that I couldn't control myself and I reacted in anger. That teaches the child that hitting someone else is ok.

IMO when a parent spanks/hits their child the child is really the one in control because they know they caused the parent to lose control. .

I believe most behavioral experts agree that most abusers learned to be so by example.

[Jack Mehoff]

11F5S,

Why didn't you bring up my name in your post? :fork:

[Guttorm]

I don't buy the "my parents spanked me and look how I great I turned out" argument.

I would never resort to hitting/spanking a child, because in doing so all it proves is that I couldn't control myself and I reacted in anger. That teaches the child that hitting someone else is ok.

IMO when a parent spanks/hits their child the child is really the one in control because they know they caused the parent to lose control. .

I believe most behavioral experts agree that most abusers learned to be so by example.

Well... I was spanked and hit when I was a kid. And I've never started a fight in my life.
And I don't think that hitting other people is ok... What the kids learn is, when you cross the line... You PAY! :D

[California Joe]

farmgirl pretty muched nailed my philosophy. You cannot reason with a 2 year old that wants to put her finger in a light socket. Hand smacking seemed to work.
My daughter is like hers. Tough as nails. I could have beat her ass for hours and she would have looked at me like, "is that all you got?" If there ever is a GI Jane it might be her. Beating a kid because you're angry is never a proper or controlled response. Spanking just plain doesn't work past a certain age anyway.
As a parent it's your mission to ensure that you figure out how to effectively discipline your kid.

[Haiw]

Now how 'bout children beating their parents? p-)

[hank]

There is something about a thread in which Farmgirl talks about spanking that makes it impossible for me to address the subject. It reminds me of the time I . . . . What, did you say something? . . . Oh, yeah . . must concentrate . . . blue gorilla driving a 12 inch macho man in an ambulance on the Santa Monica freeway and heading to Iowa. . . What?

Anyway, Mary Catherine is due at the end of March and I doubt I'll be a big spanker - but I do have a temper and it is something I have to be careful of - I got disciplined a lot when I was a kid b/c I was a major pain in the ass and very head strong - no really I know it is shockinbg but I swear it is true - never got anything I would consider a beating but I rememebr a few times when I get a smakc a little harder than necessary - anyway each parent has to make the decision but there is a line out there that should not be crossed by anybody.

hank

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Ya I got spanked when I was a lil young ****head. I remeber I never really liked sunny days when I was a kid because I'd go out n get into **** n get my ass spanked.

ahhh the good old days..

Im not having kids so the only ass's I will spank will be the ladies woot

[farmgirl]

There is something about a thread in which Farmgirl talks about spanking that makes it impossible for me to address the subject. It reminds me of the time I . . . . What, did you say something? . . . Oh, yeah . . must concentrate . . . blue gorilla driving a 12 inch macho man in an ambulance on the Santa Monica freeway and heading to Iowa. . . What?

Anyway, Mary Catherine is due at the end of March and I doubt I'll be a big spanker - but I do have a temper and it is something I have to be careful of - I got disciplined a lot when I was a kid b/c I was a major pain in the ass and very head strong - no really I know it is shockinbg but I swear it is true - never got anything I would consider a beating but I rememebr a few times when I get a smakc a little harder than necessary - anyway each parent has to make the decision but there is a line out there that should not be crossed by anybody.

hank


Hank... you never fail to make me laugh. That's a good thing. :)
Mary Catherine huh? I like that. Is she your first?

[hank]

First and only if I don't quit spending all my time at Militarphotos.net.

Just kidding. WE are goint to try to have another ASAP b/c we waited so long to have the first. We are 33 and 30 so the clocks are ticking.

By the way, what ever happened to the macho man - i bet trigger kept it.

hank

[farmgirl]

First and only if I don't quit spending all my time at Militarphotos.net.

Just kidding. WE are goint to try to have another ASAP b/c we waited so long to have the first. We are 33 and 30 so the clocks are ticking.

By the way, what ever happened to the macho man - i bet trigger kept it.

hank

Yeah.... this could interfere with your love life.... although you better enjoy it now before the baby is born.... Budanski's wife had a baby, and we NEVER see him anymore!

Yeah.... I can see why you want to have another ASAP... plus... they'll probably end up being really close. That's always nice. My sister has a baby, and I was taking care of him the other night, and I started feeling that "baby pull".... funny how that works! :)

I'm still waiting on the macho man.... once he gets here.... you won't be seeing much of me for awhile. p-)

[California Joe]

Good luck with that pal. Mary Catherine is a grand name.

[farmgirl]

Good luck with that pal. Mary Catherine is a grand name.

yes, yes it is.... nearly as good as Mary Dawn ;)

[Jack Mehoff]

I think Mary is a lesbian name

[farmgirl]

I think Mary is a lesbian name

Well... that's okay, because my name isn't Mary... it's Marydawn.... I hate being called Mary. :roll:

[hank]

If she is a lesbian I am going to see to it that she marries a big fat honking dike and Jack can be the best man. We'll let 2 sheds perform the ceremony and Joe can be the ringbearer. Farmgirl will be the entertainment for the bachelor party. I hear she likes jumping out of cakes. Right, Farmgirl?

At the reception I'll get hammered and make a toast just like the Godfather in Old School.

It'll be like a whole new reality TV show.

hank

[farmgirl]

If she is a lesbian I am going to see to it that she marries a big fat honking dike and Jack can be the best man. We'll let 2 sheds perform the ceremony and Joe can be the ringbearer. Farmgirl will be the entertainment for the bachelor party. I hear she likes jumping out of cakes. Right, Farmgirl?

At the reception I'll get hammered and make a toast just like the Godfather in Old School.

It'll be like a whole new reality TV show.

hank

hell Hank... you give me too much credit.... by the time MC is old enough to get married... I'll be too old to be jumping out of a cake! Let me know what you've got going on this weekend, and we'll talk. p-)

[hank]

Shoot - age adds character. Besides in 20 years you'll still be only 29, right?

This weekend I will be hanig out with a fat lady, I mean my beautiful pregnant wife. Yeah, that's it.

Gotta go.

hank

[farmgirl]

Shoot - age adds character. Besides in 20 years you'll still be only 29, right?

This weekend I will be hanig out with a fat lady, I mean my beautiful pregnant wife. Yeah, that's it.

Gotta go.

hank


naturally.... but 29 is really old! ;)

Pregnant women are beautiful. :) Pamper her this weekend. She deserves it. :D

[Jack Mehoff]

You call your pregnant wife a big fat lady? :lol: I think i might try that sometime in the future

[farmgirl]

You call your pregnant wife a big fat lady? :lol: I think i might try that sometime in the future

It's all in the delivery, Jack. It has to be said in the most loving and worshipful of ways.... then it's okay. :)

Hey.... what's up with you taking off, and not cleaning up the kitchen?

[hank]

Pamper - you had kids, right? If you did then you know in the 7th to 9th months prgnant women are not beautiful. They are mean and nasty and hateful and fat. I got up Thursday and vacuumed the whole house and I was still an asshole when I got home that night. Pregnant women are not rational human beings. Pipe in here anytime, Joe. You've spread the seed.

Just wait, Jack, it is like a transformation from Aliens. They turn on you and there is nothing you can do. Never happy for one second after the end of the 6th month.

Other than that I just can't wait until that little crying, needy, red ball of flesh comes to keep me up all the time.

Wouldn't miss it for the world though, all BS aside it has been great. Taht ultrasound is the bomb. Until you see that thing it is just an idea or a notion, but when you see that hand and that little face, well that' why you lift all them weights.

hank

[farmgirl]

Pamper - you had kids, right? If you did then you know in the 7th to 9th months prgnant women are not beautiful. They are mean and nasty and hateful and fat. I got up Thursday and vacuumed the whole house and I was still an asshole when I got home that night. Pregnant women are not rational human beings. Pipe in here anytime, Joe. You've spread the seed.

Just wait, Jack, it is like a transformation from Aliens. They turn on you and there is nothing you can do. Never happy for one second after the end of the 6th month.

Other than that I just can't wait until that little crying, needy, red ball of flesh comes to keep me up all the time.

Wouldn't miss it for the world though, all BS aside it has been great. Taht ultrasound is the bomb. Until you see that thing it is just an idea or a notion, but when you see that hand and that little face, well that' why you lift all them weights.

hank


Hey! :roll: I was never mean and nasty to my husband. I save that for other people! That said.... if your wife is being a bit irrational... it's okay... she's got an alien being growing inside of her.... stretching her skin to previously unknown heights and widths. Kiss her ass. seriously.... :)

I know what you mean about the ultrasound... gave me goosebumps and made me cry. It's amazing. Just wait till she's born... that's just F-ing incredible. I was in awe of their perfect little bodies. The two best days of my life... without a doubt!

[California Joe]

Pamper - you had kids, right? If you did then you know in the 7th to 9th months prgnant women are not beautiful. They are mean and nasty and hateful and fat. I got up Thursday and vacuumed the whole house and I was still an asshole when I got home that night. Pregnant women are not rational human beings. Pipe in here anytime, Joe. You've spread the seed.

Just wait, Jack, it is like a transformation from Aliens. They turn on you and there is nothing you can do. Never happy for one second after the end of the 6th month.

Other than that I just can't wait until that little crying, needy, red ball of flesh comes to keep me up all the time.

Wouldn't miss it for the world though, all BS aside it has been great. Taht ultrasound is the bomb. Until you see that thing it is just an idea or a notion, but when you see that hand and that little face, well that' why you lift all them weights.

hank

It's why I got "the vasectomy" Hank. Just keep them distracted. Like guard dogs and an endless supply of cubed steak.

Spending the next two years staying up watching Law and Order reruns'll be worth it though. I'm available at all hours for consultations. I know about things like Desitin and Huggies and all that ****e. PS, contrary to popular belief, girls can pee on you. Word.

[Jack Mehoff]

I don't want kids. THey are the devil that eat all your paychecks and freedom.

[hank]

I wish I could put them on the net like seventy6er did. That was awesome. I have a VHS tape of two of them. Our doctor ws ultrasound crazy - we've had at least 6 of them. She never charged us for any but the ones that our insurance pays for. Everytime we go she giggles and says "want to see the baby?" - then she takes us in and does an ultrasound just for fun. That has been great.

We have been really lucky with the stretching thing. No problems so far.

My sister just had her first and we are going this weekend to see him for the second time. You'll love this - he weighed 10 lbs and 3 ozs. My sister weighed like 120 before she got pregnant and here doctor did not eve give her the option of a regular birth. She gave birth to a senior in high school I swear. Kid raised his head up at the hospital before he came home. The nurse nearly fainted.

Fun times

hank

[farmgirl]

I wish I could put them on the net like seventy6er did. That was awesome. I have a VHS tape of two of them. Our doctor ws ultrasound crazy - we've had at least 6 of them. She never charged us for any but the ones that our insurance pays for. Everytime we go she giggles and says "want to see the baby?" - then she takes us in and does an ultrasound just for fun. That has been great.

We have been really lucky with the stretching thing. No problems so far.

My sister just had her first and we are going this weekend to see him for the second time. You'll love this - he weighed 10 lbs and 3 ozs. My sister weighed like 120 before she got pregnant and here doctor did not eve give her the option of a regular birth. She gave birth to a senior in high school I swear. Kid raised his head up at the hospital before he came home. The nurse nearly fainted.

Fun times

hank

Your nephew sounds like my son! They "took him" three weeks early, because he was getting so big. He weighed 10#, and his head was 15.5 inches around at birth. He looked like he was 6 months old. There was a baby in the nursery that weighed 5 pounds, and Carson just looked huge next to him. He lifted his head up in the hospital too. In fact, John took a picture, and it looks like he's checking out the little rat baby. :D

[hank]

Thanks for the tip, Joe. I have not tried raw meat but it might just do the trick. I'll consult you often I am sure.

Don't say that Jack, I never wanted them either. It'll come someday. You'll just "know" the time is right. Then you'll grab Mrs. Mehoff and do it like a ****star, well all except at the end ;) , and your world will never be the same. For a minute there I sounded like Oprah, right up unitl I mentioned the ****star.

Nipped it in the bud, huh? Not a bad idea. No problems with crowing roosters after the nip, huh? Now I know why you take the Mayberry quotes so seriously. YOu really can identify with Barney. ;)

I'll do the same in the near future. Word

hank

[farmgirl]

I don't want kids. THey are the devil that eat all your paychecks and freedom.

Things do change, but it's soooo worth it. Priorities change too, so that makes it okay. :)

[hank]

Priorities before pregnancy - hump the wife as often as possible in the hope that she gets pregnant as planned.

Priorities during pregnancy - quality time alone with the computer ;)

Get it?

hank

[farmgirl]

Priorities before pregnancy - hump the wife as often as possible in the hope that she gets pregnant as planned.

Priorities during pregnancy - quality time alone with the computer ;)

Get it?

hank


Damn... I didn't realize until right now that I must have been the perfect wife. :)

[California Joe]

Yeah. You are the perfect 2nd wife.


No reason.

[farmgirl]

Yeah. You are the perfect 2nd wife.


No reason.


rofl