View Full Version : Do You Think That Binh Laden Will Ever Be Caught?
aFgHaNibOi
02-06-2004, 08:27 PM
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040130/i/r4115191387.jpg
I say no, the guy is gone. Forget about it. :|
We already have him - he's currentlylearning to fly the Aurora - didn't you hear? No BS.
hank
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
02-06-2004, 08:37 PM
If we do catch him it will be a fluke. He obviously has alot of local support, and has a large area to hide in thats totally uncontrolled.
My guess is he will die of kidney failure before we ever get a chance to get to him...
Dennis G
02-06-2004, 08:48 PM
Maybe we will maybe we wont who knows if he is still alive. Who care's about him anyway terror is bigger then one man. Sure it would be nice to get this cockroach.
BTW aFgHaNibOi thats a great sig
Uninen
02-06-2004, 08:55 PM
I think that AC-130 got him at the Mosque..
(Osama was the runner..)
You have all seen the vid i belive..
;)
another good question is what punishment should he get if caught? are they gonna hold a trial and all that bs for him?
Uncle Sam
02-06-2004, 09:17 PM
He will be caught ! Maybe not alive, but he will be caught. U.S. Currency goes a long way. Someone will get greedy and rat him out.
usa320
02-06-2004, 11:33 PM
I second what ripcord said.
I dont care how loyal the average poor pakistani trabesman is, when someone in a suit offers him 25 million USD, he will talk, assuming hes guartanteed safety. Also, we can learn to apply the strategies used to find Saddam to find Bin Laden i believe. Concentrate on heavily questioning his family, his friends, anyone who did business with him. Lower level henchmen, work your way up.
Again, well find him- either dead or alive... To be honest, i feel that there is no reason to take him alive, our intelligence knows just as much as he does, so i think they should just kill the bastard on the spot.
As for a trial, i understand thats what makes use better than him, but to be frank, the people on 9-11 never got a trial, neither should he. I think he should be sent to Gitmo, and given a "Trial" and then taken out back and recieve his punishment.
Hopefully it wont even come to that- i think the chances are far greater that he has been or will be killed in an air strike by gunships or UAV's.
memphiz
02-07-2004, 12:40 AM
i think the Canadian forces will capture him, then they will send him to Guantamino(sp) bay were the Americans will mistake his identity then deport him to Seria were Serian forces will torture him by stick a ice-pick through his scrotom then turn him upside down and let him dangle from his balls untill they rip and he smacks the ground in mass amounts of pain.
Then Seria will relize who they have and send him back to Guantamino were he will be strapped to a chair and George Bush will show up and get payback for 9/11( a doctor will be present to make sure Bin Laden wont die but suffer instead) and Bin Laden looses conscienceness from severe beatings, and wakes up in the in the middle of the tora bora mountians and is tatooed from head to toe in the American flag and GOD BLESS AMERICA written across his chest and forhead. and there will be some Canadian stuff there to.
Or a tank will run over him in Isreal...
mustamato
02-07-2004, 01:08 AM
Hopefully he will not be captured. Atleast he probably have bodyguards
that will finish him off rather than allow him to be captured as shamefully
as Saddam. Given that we have not heard anything from him for a time,
he might already be dead.
EvanL
02-07-2004, 01:19 AM
Maybe Bin-Laden isnt real. Maybe he is just something inside of us. SOmething we all share. *obvious sarcasm*
Nobody can say it, but always that Bin Laden is living as a fugitive, is good because he can´t do many things, but I don´t think he´s the summit of terror pyramid, if always like that exists.
Tengu
02-07-2004, 06:40 AM
Don't think so. Some other scumbag would prolly take his place anyway.
mack pl
02-07-2004, 07:11 AM
Osama is in Pakistan, so nobody could captured him, only Pakistani. But they never do that. General Musharaf cannot fight with muslim extremist in own country. His biggest problem is India, so he will not looking for Osama. :(
Tengu
02-07-2004, 07:45 AM
Osama is in Pakistan, so nobody could captured him, only Pakistani. But they never do that. General Musharaf cannot fight with muslim extremist in own country. His biggest problem is India, so he will not looking for Osama. :(maybe an american dollar will change his mind p-)
Ghostwolf
02-07-2004, 08:09 AM
There are a lot of tribal people in both Afghanistan and Pakistan, willing to provide protection to this guy. Unless he's caught screwing a goat at night,
it would be rather difficult to locate him.
mack pl
02-07-2004, 04:37 PM
I dont think Musharaff will do something more than he done untill now, for american money. He gets from US billions USD, but he cannot done something more with Osama. In A-stan and in Pakistan living many Pashtuns(spelling), and this is the reason why he will never busted by Pakistani army or police. We could only pray of his mistake, maybe he back to A-stan, and than we will kill him.
Seoulstriker
02-07-2004, 05:06 PM
i think the Canadian forces will capture him, then they will send him to Guantamino(sp) bay were the Americans will mistake his identity then deport him to Seria were Serian forces will torture him by stick a ice-pick through his scrotom then turn him upside down and let him dangle from his balls untill they rip and he smacks the ground in mass amounts of pain.
Then Seria will relize who they have and send him back to Guantamino were he will be strapped to a chair and George Bush will show up and get payback for 9/11( a doctor will be present to make sure Bin Laden wont die but suffer instead) and Bin Laden looses conscienceness from severe beatings, and wakes up in the in the middle of the tora bora mountians and is tatooed from head to toe in the American flag and GOD BLESS AMERICA written across his chest and forhead. and there will be some Canadian stuff there to.
Or a tank will run over him in Isreal...
unlike hussein, bin laden will die fighting. he is, after all, the spiritual leader for al qaeda, and he needs to be martyred (in his eyes).
mack pl
02-07-2004, 05:26 PM
Maybe he will fighting, maybe no. He is spiritual leader of Al-Qaeda, but he is a leader, not a fighter. What he can do? I hope Al-Qaeda will never attack western world like in sep.11. If we captured Osama his organisation loose leader. But maybe someone else, who will be next leader of Al qaeda will be worst and most dangerous? Who knows that.Ehhh.Kill OSAMA :-*$
Uncle Sam
02-07-2004, 05:38 PM
Sept 11...
Today, a day of tragedy
Of deep emotional toil
Another day of infamy
Performed upon our soil
Many people died today
There is no rhyme or reason
Apparently this terrible act
Was some sort of getting even
But getting even for what I ask?
What was it they did to you?
That you should come and take their lives
So suddenly out of the blue!
I’ll tell you now with deep conviction
You’ve not advanced your cause
You’ve simply alerted the Eagle
Who now opens up its claws
As it searches out the rodents
That scamper in the cracks
Then scamper out again
And think they’ve left no tracks
You’ve awoken the mighty Eagle
It eyes now open wide
And there is no crack or cranny now
No place that you can hide
Seiyuuki
02-07-2004, 05:45 PM
Fools...he is in a hole beneath my backyard right now!!!!!!
Dennis G
02-07-2004, 06:02 PM
I think that AC-130 got him at the Mosque..
(Osama was the runner..)
You have all seen the vid i belive..
;)
I dont think I have
MARINO
02-07-2004, 06:53 PM
We have only to call him
http://www.texasdude.com/9-11-01/yo-bin-laden-2.jpg
I thin k that he is still in Afghanistan, is a big country with a lot of mountaind and places to hide, but we need more guys to search and find him
Hopefully he will not be captured. Atleast he probably have bodyguards
that will finish him off rather than allow him to be captured as shamefully
as Saddam. Given that we have not heard anything from him for a time,
he might already be dead.
You hope he will not be captured? Why? You think the man who has a hand in such mass murder should get off easy?
As for a trial, i understand thats what makes use better than him, but to be frank, the people on 9-11 never got a trial, neither should he.
And maybe he shouldn't simply because in a truly fair trial the results might be doubtfull...I mean, it's not like there's trainloads of evidence.
Uncle Sam
02-07-2004, 08:48 PM
As for a trial, i understand thats what makes use better than him, but to be frank, the people on 9-11 never got a trial, neither should he.
And maybe he shouldn't simply because in a truly fair trial the results might be doubtfull...I mean, it's not like there's trainloads of evidence.
no, theres plane-loads of it !
Va_Dinger
02-07-2004, 09:51 PM
Maybe we will maybe we wont who knows if he is still alive. Who care's about him anyway terror is bigger then one man. Sure it would be nice to get this cockroach.
Do you bother to watch or read the news? Bin Laden has released numerous videos of himself since the Afghanistan and Iraq campaigns. He's deffiently still alive. Most estimates put him in the law less tribal areas of Pakistan that run along the southern Afghan/Pakistan border area.
Uninen
02-07-2004, 10:02 PM
Osama is to begin with just a bogeyman, invented, trained and financed by CIA..
In the 1980s..
Just remember that..
:|
NcDeuce
02-07-2004, 10:07 PM
We'll get the bastard eventually. Mark my words. Whether it is 2 days, 6 weeks, 8 months, 17 years...we will get that piece of scum.
usa320
02-07-2004, 10:14 PM
Atleast he probably have bodyguards
that will finish him off rather than allow him to be captured as shamefully
No. His bodyguards will be shot dead, either by SOF, or by a JDAM.
ANd he wont die fighting. Like Saddam, hes hellbent on surviving. He might try and hide and run, but he wont fight. Maybe shoot himself.
As for a fair trial, he didnt give the 3,000 people he killed 2 years ago a trial. He doesnt deserve one either. He desrves to be either shot on the spot, or spend some time in jail, only to face the firing squad. Anyone *cough*mustamto*cough* who doubts Bin Laden's guilt is as brainwashed as Bin Laden himself. He openly admitted his role in the 9-11 attacks. The finances, the documents, the terrorists that have been interrogated, the stuff seized at terrorist camps in Afghanistan... the Hijacking training aircraft at Salman-pak south of Baghdad... If Bin Laden isnt guilty of 9-11, then hitler wasnt guilty of the systematic murder of the jews in the 1940's.
Uninen
02-07-2004, 10:19 PM
Saddam..
Was captured by Kurds..
Who in turn hauled his drugged ass to that hole for US to pick up..
For certain benefits gained..
:petting:
Uninen
02-07-2004, 10:23 PM
the Hijacking training aircraft at Salman-pak south of Baghdad...
Wrong!
That airframe was used by Iraqi CT units to practice countering plane hijacks..
Trust me there plenty such sites around globe..
Several (tens even..) in US alone i would image..
Iraq had nothing to do with Al-Qaida or 911..
Only thing Saddam and Osama have incommon is that Osama said earlier that he wants Saddam dead..
And Osama also supported Iraqs Shiite rebels..
:|
Schwabo Elite
02-08-2004, 06:58 PM
a) I doubt some of Osama's pals will betray him for money, after the US didn't give the money to the guy who betrayed Saddam, because I won't rely on the word of people who already have broken it multiple times. (Seen from the point of view, of a fanatic religious terrorist).
b) As for a fair trial, he didnt give the 3,000 people he killed 2 years ago a trial. He doesnt deserve one either. He desrves to be either shot on the spot, or spend some time in jail, only to face the firing squad. Anyone *cough*mustamto*cough* who doubts Bin Laden's guilt is as brainwashed as Bin Laden himself.
reading this I don't have any doubt at all why certain countries bang their heads hearing "the voice of the democratic US people". You really don't have a clue what either international law, democracy, equal rights or at least Christian traditions (Muslim by the way, too) mean.
But still you cry for vengance that's ok, but intelligent people cry for the law to be enforced. Maybe one day people like you can make the step from the vendetta to the modern state law...
I doubt the US will get him anyway. After Bush won't find him until 2005 the next president can slowly drop the effort made, since everyone knows that finding him would have to involve alot of money, time, personell and especially luck. Maybe Bush ist willing to spend your next 2 or 3 households in one war, but the next president won't. Should, by any way or the other, Bush win the reelection, it maybe would lighten chances for the US forces to find Osma, but I don't think so. For Bush it would be best not to be reelected, because he couldn't handle the tasks, couldn't come up with solutions and you would have an even bigger economical problem afterwards.
SE
usa320
02-08-2004, 07:34 PM
Saddam..
Was captured by Kurds..
Who in turn hauled his drugged ass to that hole for US to pick up..
For certain benefits gained..
To be blunt, that is the greatest line of bull**** ive ever read. I know first hand this isnt true.
That airframe was used by Iraqi CT units to practice countering plane hijacks..
Trust me there plenty such sites around globe..
Several (tens even..) in US alone i would image..
Iraq had nothing to do with Al-Qaida or 911..
Only thing Saddam and Osama have incommon is that Osama said earlier that he wants Saddam dead..
And Osama also supported Iraqs Shiite rebels..
This is also not true. The Salman-Pak facilty didnt only include the airframe of a 707, but it included bomb-making facilities, firearms ranges, ect. It was definately a terrorist camp, more than likely run by an Al Queda affiliate, and the iraqi government turned a blind eye to what was going on there. And contrary of what you state, there are boat loads (or agian, plane-loads) of evidence that link Iraq to terrorism. The trail of money speaks louder than any satellite image, document or interrogation report.
lol is like sixty something right now, he will die of old age before we get to him...
Uninen
02-08-2004, 08:35 PM
USA320,
http://www.correspondences.org/archives/000507.html
December 21, 2003
Who captured Saddam Hussein?
Well, the cat is out of the bag so to speak. Saddam Hussein was captured by Kurds, not US forces. Here is the story as best I can determine by looking through a number of articles (see full list at end of this post).
Hussein was betrayed to the Kurds by a member of the al-Jabour tribe because Hussein's son Uday had raped a daughter of the tribe. Saddam had previously paid 7 million pounds in blood money to the tribe with the warning that he would wipe out the entire tribe if it ever came out. (Sify report)
He was then handed over to the Kurdish Patriotic Front who negotiated a deal with US forces for political power before drugging and abandoning Hussein for pickup. Ultimately he ended up in the hands of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) led by Jalal Talabani (Aljazeera)
Hussein could not escape the hole in which he was recovered because the entrance had been sealed.
The following is extracted from the article by Paul McGeogh from the Sydney Morning Herald (SMH) We got him: Kurds say they caught Saddam.
Washington's claims that brilliant US intelligence work led to the capture of Saddam Hussein are being challenged by reports sourced in Iraq's Kurdish media claiming that its militia set the circumstances in which the US merely had to go to a farm identified by the Kurds to bag the fugitive former president.
The first media account of the December 13 arrest was aired by a Tehran-based news agency.
American forces took Saddam into custody around 8.30pm local time, but sat on the news until 3pm the next day.
However, in the early hours of Sunday, a Kurdish language wire service reported explicitly: "Saddam Hussein was captured by the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan. A special intelligence unit led by Qusrat Rasul Ali, a high-ranking member of the PUK, found Saddam Hussein in the city of Tikrit, his birthplace.
"Qusrat's team was accompanied by a group of US soldiers. Further details of the capture will emerge during the day; but the global Kurdish party is about to begin!"
The head of the PUK, Jalal Talabani, was in the Iranian capital en route to Europe.
The Western media in Baghdad were electrified by the Iranian agency's revelation, but as reports of the arrest built, they relied almost exclusively on accounts from US military and intelligence organisations, starting with the words of the US-appointed administrator of Iraq, Paul Bremer: "Ladies and gentlemen: we got 'im".
US officials said that they had extracted the vital piece of information on Saddam's whereabouts from one of the 20 suspects around 5.30pm on December 13 and had immediately assembled a 600-strong force to surround the farm on which he was captured at al-Dwar, south of Tikrit.
Little attention was paid to a line in Pentagon briefings that some of the Kurdish militia might have been in on what was described as a "joint operation"; or to a statement by Ahmed Chalabi, head of the Iraq National Congress, which said that Qusrat and his PUK forces had provided vital information and more.
What is truly interesting is not just the US claim of capturing Saddam Hussein, but the claiming of an elaborate operation that ended successfully (much like the scripting of the rescue of Jessica Lynch). Not only did that elaborate operation not work (if it existed at all), but the Kurds had him trapped in a hole while the US got the media apparatus together for the "dramatic" events.
What is also worrisome, but not unexpected, is the virtual silence of the US and British press. ABC News Online was the only US-based news I found, and it was a copy of the Agence French Press report.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1014319.htm
Saddam held by Kurds, drugged and left for US troops: report
Saddam Hussein was captured by US troops only after he had been taken prisoner by Kurdish forces, drugged and abandoned ready for American soldiers to recover him, a British tabloid newspaper has reported.
Saddam came into the hands of the Kurdish Patriotic Front after being betrayed to the group by a member of the al-Jabour tribe, whose daughter had been raped by Saddam's son Uday, leading to a blood feud, reported the Sunday Express, which quoted an unnamed senior British military intelligence officer.
The newspaper said the full story of events leading up to the ousted Iraqi president's capture on December 13 near his hometown of Tikrit in northern Iraq, "exposes the version peddled by American spin doctors as incomplete".
A former Iraqi intelligence officer, whom the Express did not name, told the paper that Saddam was held prisoner by a leader of the Kurdish Patriotic Front, which fought alongside US forces during the Iraq war, until he negotiated a deal.
The deal apparently involved the group gaining political advantage in the region.
An unnamed Western intelligence source in the Middle East told the Express: "Saddam was not captured as a result of any American or British intelligence. We knew that someone would eventually take their revenge, it was just a matter of time."
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2003-12/21/article03.shtml
Kurds, Not U.S. Captured Saddam: Report
LONDON, December 21 (IslamOnline.net) ? Ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein was not captured by U.S. forces, but rather Kurdish troops, who drugged the former leader and handed him over to the Americans later after negotiating a deal, a British newspaper revealed Sunday, December 21.
Turning the U.S. exaltation at Saddam capture into a Pyrrhic victory, the Sunday Express quoted unnamed senior British military intelligence officer as saying that Saddam fell into the hands of Jalal Talabani's Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK).
He said that Saddam was betrayed to the PUK by a member of al-Jabour tribe, whose daughter had been raped by Saddam's son Uday, leading to a blood feud and harboring feelings of hatred towards the Saddam family, according to the daily.
A former Iraqi intelligence officer, whom the Express did not name, told the paper that Saddam was held prisoner by Talabani until he negotiated a deal, which apparently involved the group gaining political advantage in the region.
An unnamed Western intelligence source in the Middle East also told the daily: "Saddam was not captured as a result of any American or British intelligence. We knew that someone would eventually take their revenge, it was just a matter of time."
Talabani was actually the first to announce the ground-breaking news in press statements to the Iranian News Agency (IRNA).
News televisions showed a videotape of a bearded and disheveled Saddam in detention and undergoing medical checks.
Mahmmoud Othman, Kurdish member of the Iraqi Interim Governing Council (IGC) asserted at the time that it was the Kurds who nabbed Saddam "because they have Arab friends in Tikrit, Mosul and the country".
The Express said the full story of events leading up to Saddam capture near his hometown of Tikrit in northern Iraq "exposes the version peddled by American spin doctors as incomplete".
Political analysts said U.S. President George W. Bush was in a dire need for such a ground-shaking event to raise his ratings and shine up his image in the eyes of the Americans as the Presidential elections are drawing closer.
http://www.mail-archive.com/ugandanet@kym.net/msg10113.html
Kurds Captured, Drugged
Saddam Before US Got Him
Sydney Morning Herald
The Courier-Mail
12-21-3
Saddam Hussein was found by US troops only after he had been taken prisoner by Kurdish forces, drugged and abandoned ready for American soldiers to recover him, a British newspaper reported yesterday.
Saddam came into the hands of the Kurdish Patriotic Front after being betrayed to the group by a member of the al-Jabour tribe, whose daughter had been raped by Saddam's son Uday, leading to a blood feud, reported the Sunday Express, which quoted an unnamed senior British military intelligence officer.
The newspaper said the full story of events leading up to the ousted Iraqi president's capture on December 13 near his hometown of Tikrit in northern Iraq, "exposes the version peddled by American spin doctors as incomplete".
A former Iraqi intelligence officer, whom the Express did not name, told the paper that Saddam was held prisoner by a leader of the Kurdish Patriotic Front, which fought alongside US forces during the Iraq war, until the leader negotiated a deal.
The deal apparently involved the group gaining political advantage in the region.
An unnamed Western intelligence source in the Middle East told the Express: "Saddam was not captured as a result of any American or British intelligence".
"We knew that someone would eventually take their revenge, it was just a matter of time."
However US military intelligence said in Baghdad yesterday the man who led US troops to Saddam was one of his top aides.
"He was someone I would call his right arm," said Major Stan Murphy, head of intelligence for the 4th Infantry Division's First Brigade in Tikrit.
Meanwhile, Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar yesterday paid an unannounced visit to Iraq.
Aznar flew by helicopter from Kuwait and spent about five hours at a base in Diwaniya, south of the capital, where he had lunch with the mostly Spanish troops stationed there.
"The visit had to be a surprise for security reasons. Very few people knew about it," said Major Carlos Herradon, spokesman for the Spanish troops based in Iraq.
Mr Aznar said he wanted to support the Spanish soldiers and their allies in "their struggle for a just cause, one of liberty, democracy and respect for international law".
Later, a senior US officer said four Iraqis died and an unspecified number of US troops were wounded during a Baghdad demonstration in support of Saddam five days ago. Three more Iraqi policemen were gunned down by mistake by American soldiers about 90km south of Kirkuk in northern Iraq, local police said, adding that they were mistaken for rebels.
The Courier-Mail
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The world knows the truth, YOU DONT..
rofl
And the list is endless, just like list of your govs lies.
:bash:
ibstolidude
02-08-2004, 08:51 PM
Saddam..
Was captured by Kurds..
Who in turn hauled his drugged ass to that hole for US to pick up..
For certain benefits gained..
:petting:
Well then good for the US because he ultimately is in their hands.
Who gives a **** how Osama gets caught.. I don't care if a 99 year old grandmother from antartica travelling to New Guinea stumbles upon him.
Jack Mehoff
02-08-2004, 09:52 PM
Saddam was captured by the Kurds????? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.
There wouldn't be nothing left of Saddam if the Kurds did captured him. This is like saying what would happen to Hitler if the Russian got their hands on him alive; I think we already have the answer for that
Uninen
02-08-2004, 09:58 PM
1. Kurds arent savages.
2. they knew that they would get benefits from capturing Saddam.
3. It was Kurdish special unit that captured him.
:)
Jack Mehoff
02-08-2004, 10:01 PM
1. Kurds arent savages.
2. they knew that they would get benefits from capturing Saddam.
3. It was Kurdish special unit that captured him.
:)
OMFG!!! rofl rofl rofl rofl
Uninen
02-08-2004, 10:15 PM
And hauled his drugged ass to that hole..
For US to pick up..
But whatever..
Think and belive whatever you want..
Im done here..
:cantbeli: woot
Sierra
02-08-2004, 10:34 PM
i think he will be caught. dead or alive, he will be caught
Sixgun Symphony
02-08-2004, 11:12 PM
I think Osama bin Ladin is already dead.
So many caves haved been bombed in Afghanistan, I am sure that his remains are likely buried in some collapsed cave system.
Saddam was captured by the Kurds????? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.
There wouldn't be nothing left of Saddam if the Kurds did captured him. This is like saying what would happen to Hitler if the Russian got their hands on him alive; I think we already have the answer for that
we would've cut his ***** off
kyote
02-09-2004, 12:31 AM
I think he's been caught too, but it won't be on the news until sometime in September. If I'm wrong.. I think he will be caught even if a Democrat gets elected.
Lone Predator
02-09-2004, 01:09 AM
my question is....
how many terrorists are captured alive?
I think we're more likley to find a body (if we're lucky).
Luxembourger
02-09-2004, 05:38 AM
he will be captured dead, if not he will die of his cancer that requires monthlyl check ups at a hosipital
I just wonder how long it would take, when BL is caputred, that Amnesty International will open their big mouth and aks for good treatment
Roger Rabbit
02-09-2004, 05:48 AM
I think that he should never be captured alive. Personally i think the best way would be to find his body(or at least somebody find his body) and say oh dear he died of something non-US(or US allies) related. Such as kidney failure or one of his own shooting him for some reason. My reasons for this, his death at the hands of the US(or US allies) would make him into a martyr. His capture would cause all kinds of problems i think. However i'm sure the various intelligence services will come up with a solution as to what should be done if he is ever found. They will be able to guess the reaction concerning Bid Laden death/capture/missing of the World public.
Midtown
02-10-2004, 04:28 PM
I think that Onion fellow is smoking some of the same crack Duci is.
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