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Pidyon Shevuyim
11-09-2005, 09:33 PM
The name of a 25-year-old man fatally shot Sunday by Redmond police was not made public Monday, pending an examination by the King County Medical Examiner's Office.

The name of the officer involved probably won't be released until Wednesday.

Some neighbors in the Windwood Village town homes north of downtown Redmond described the victim as a quiet, reclusive person. He had no criminal record, and police reported no contact with him before Sunday.

Redmond police public-information officer Stacey Holland said the police officer has been with the department for about two years. The fatal shooting was the first involving a Redmond officer in about 30 years, according to Holland.

The shooting took place about 8:30 p.m. at the town homes in the 15800 block of Northeast 95th Way. Holland said police went to the town home when the father of the 25-year-old called 911 and said his son was threatening to kill himself.

When officers arrived, the son had locked himself in a bathroom with a knife, said Holland.

Officers tried to talk him out of the bathroom but were unsuccessful. They then forced their way in and found the man with a self-inflicted knife wound to his neck, Holland said.

"In spite of verbal commands given to the subject by the officers to drop the knife, the subject started advancing toward the officers — with a knife — in a threatening position," Holland added.


Officers "repeatedly ordered the man to drop the knife," she continued. "He did not comply."

Officers then fired a Taser, a nonlethal disabling weapon, but the man was unaffected by the shot, Holland said. "The subject continued to close the distance between himself and the officers, knife in hand.




"One officer was forced to fire two rounds, fatally wounding the subject," Holland said.

The incident is under investigation by the King County Sheriff's Office, and the officer has been placed on administrative leave. Both are standard procedures by law-enforcement agencies after officer-involved shootings, to avoid conflicts of interest and to aid in emotional adjustment.

The man grew up in the Bridle Trails area of Bellevue, and one neighbor remembered him as a wonderful child.

"He was the greatest, most well-behaved little kid," said a woman who lives on 126th Avenue Northeast in the Compton Trails neighborhood. The family later moved, and the woman, who declined to give her name, lost touch.

The family was active at the Bellevue First Presbyterian Church. A pastor at the church said services for the shooting victim will be held there.

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scrybe
11-09-2005, 10:33 PM
The taser was unsuccessful? Sounds like they missed. I don't think you can be immune to electricity.

Hot Lips
11-09-2005, 10:44 PM
It must have been a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE bathroom. They kicked in the door, fired a taster and fired two shots, because the guy "continued to close the distance".

Most household bathrooms I've seen.... you kick the door in and there is no distance to close between you and the person inside. In fact, the door would be on top of them.

Pidyon Shevuyim
11-09-2005, 10:52 PM
yeah im not sure how that really happend....i had never been in the house so i dont know how big the bathroom is....supposedly from another friend who talk to his bro this all happend within 5ft...

EvanL
11-09-2005, 10:55 PM
The taser did nothing? Was he on meth or what?

Delta11
11-10-2005, 09:13 AM
If ur body is at a life threatening situation, all ur body's nervous system shuts down so u mostly wont feel pain. In tat case, he had aa knife in his neck.

<Gypsum Fantastic>
11-10-2005, 09:28 AM
It's not about pain. The taser makes you lose control of your muscles. So it's most likely the taser didn't make proper contact.

American Patriot
11-10-2005, 09:41 AM
Twenty-five and living in your father's house, that was his problem right there

California Joe
11-10-2005, 09:46 AM
I'd assume that after the cops kicked in the door and the suspect/victim began advancing towards them, they followed SOP and continued to back away from the suspect while telling him to drop his weapon. The article is a little bit misleading acting like all of this action took place in the actual bathroom. But bottom line, at the end of the day the cops make sure they go home in one piece. If you don't want to die don't go after cops with a knife.

EvanL
11-10-2005, 07:07 PM
Cops have these tools for a reason. the gun is the last resort. there are about 10 different steps to go through before using your sidearm. And taser is about 9.

Secret Squirrel
11-10-2005, 08:01 PM
Sounds like, for what ever emotional or psychological reason, a suicide attempt turned into "suicide by cop".

Delta11
11-11-2005, 01:49 AM
I feel sry for him now. Tasered, stabbed, n shot. How much pain is tat?

<Gypsum Fantastic>
11-11-2005, 03:54 AM
I feel sry for him now. Tasered, stabbed, n shot. How much pain is tat?

Err... he stabbed himself and was tasered and shot because he was going to stab a cop. Not someone to waste your sympathy on.

Delta11
11-12-2005, 08:11 PM
I know he stabbed himself. I mean think about how it feels to stab urself in ur neck, then get tasered, n after tat get shot. I know he was going to attack the cops, but he suffered alot so tats y i said i feel sry for him.
But he did deserved tat since he was going for the cops.

A question here, Y did he intend to attack the cops? The cops just want to stop him from commiting suicide.

EvanL
11-12-2005, 08:17 PM
I know he stabbed himself. I mean think about how it feels to stab urself in ur neck, then get tasered, n after tat get shot. I know he was going to attack the cops, but he suffered alot so tats y i said i feel sry for him.
But he did deserved tat since he was going for the cops.

A question here, Y did he intend to attack the cops? The cops just want to stop him from commiting suicide.
cus he wanted to die.
its called suicide by cop.

Delta11
11-12-2005, 09:36 PM
I did know he wanted to die but my question was y did he wanted to attack the cops. If he wanted to die, y not stab himself some more times in the neck instead of going for the cops.

California Joe
11-13-2005, 10:58 AM
Are you dense? Because it's a lot easier to have someone else pull a trigger than actually cut your own throat. Most suicides by cutting or stabbing bleed out eventually. They usually have multiple "hesitation marks" on themselves. It's a painful and long drawn out process. Like Evan said, look up suicide by cop on google.

Herrmannek
11-13-2005, 01:25 PM
The taser was unsuccessful? Sounds like they missed. I don't think you can be immune to electricity.
TAser isn't a ultimate weapon it have something like 3% of failures... Don't know what kind of failures that percent includes..

cut
11-13-2005, 01:33 PM
The guy had a knife not a gun, if the taser failed, shoot him in the leg, they must have been close enough.

Hawkeye
11-13-2005, 03:46 PM
The guy had a knife not a gun, if the taser failed, shoot him in the leg, they must have been close enough.


x2

I believe here officers are learned (and its mandatory) to shoot the guy in the legs first (just to stop him if he hasnt got a ranged weapon)

California Joe
11-13-2005, 03:49 PM
Here they are taught to shoot center mass till the imecile having the psychotic episode stops. Nobody shoots people in the legs except in movies. You shoot him in the leg and then you have a retard laying on the ground in pain AND pissed off still swinging a knife at you.

Hawkeye
11-13-2005, 03:51 PM
Here they are taught to shoot center mass till the imecile having the psychotic episode stops. Nobody shoots people in the legs except in movies. You shoot him in the leg and then you have a retard laying on the ground in pain AND pissed off still swinging a knife at you.


yeah, but he ain't dead, now is he?

Digital Marine
11-13-2005, 03:51 PM
I was watching this TV show with Police persuits... and this dude stepped out of the vehicle with a pump action shotgun and was like 2 meters away from an officer and the officer shot and killed him.. even then my mom said ''Couldn't they just shoot him in the leg?''

My guess is that the dude was probably already too close to the officers that there was no time for a leg shot..

Hawkeye
11-13-2005, 03:54 PM
I was watching this TV show with Police persuits... and this dude stepped out of the vehicle with a pump action shotgun and was like 2 meters away from an officer and the officer shot and killed him.. even then my mom said ''Couldn't they just shoot him in the leg?''

My guess is that the dude was probably already too close to the officers that there was no time for a leg shot..

thats totally different, cause even when disabled he could have still shot the officer

here, the kill seems justified (based on what you just said)

California Joe
11-13-2005, 04:30 PM
You dudes crack me up.:cantbeli:

Digital Marine
11-13-2005, 04:37 PM
You dudes crack me up.:cantbeli:

i know.. im going to shut up nowp-)