Wesley Clark Kosovo Papers Revealed

[MetalBoy]

Over at Drudge Report they have this


Top Clinton administration officials wanted to end the Kosovo war abruptly in the summer of 1999 -- at almost any cost -- because Al Gore's presidential campaign was about to kick off, former NATO commander Gen. Wesley Clark says in his official papers, the WASHINGTON POST is set to report in Saturday editions, according to newsroom sources...

'There were those in the White House who said, 'Hey, look, you gotta finish the bombing before the Fourth of July weekend. That's the start of the next presidential campaign season, so stop it. It doesn't matter what you do, just turn it off. You don't have to win this thing, let it lie...'

Sadly this type of crap is not unexpected coming from the Clinton admin, but if this sh't is true, it takes the cake in how Clinton ass-raped our military.

You don't have to win this thing
I'm just absolutely speechless.

[SeanAshi]

Clinton doesn't/didn't care about national security

[George W. Bush]

LOL You're speechless. Clinton was/is a maggot.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Doesn't this fall under treason?

[Seoulstriker]

Over at Drudge Report they have this


Top Clinton administration officials wanted to end the Kosovo war abruptly in the summer of 1999 -- at almost any cost -- because Al Gore's presidential campaign was about to kick off, former NATO commander Gen. Wesley Clark says in his official papers, the WASHINGTON POST is set to report in Saturday editions, according to newsroom sources...

'There were those in the White House who said, 'Hey, look, you gotta finish the bombing before the Fourth of July weekend. That's the start of the next presidential campaign season, so stop it. It doesn't matter what you do, just turn it off. You don't have to win this thing, let it lie...'

Sadly this type of crap is not unexpected coming from the Clinton admin, but if this sh't is true, it takes the cake in how Clinton ass-raped our military.

You don't have to win this thing
I'm just absolutely speechless.


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[usa320]

I think this should be in the media- it will get rid of yet another democrat.

[AFACadet]

Maybe that's the reason he was fired?


The General at the time said he fired him due to a 'character and leadership issue,' and that's all he would say.

:|

[George W. Bush]

Clark was a Republican back then :lol:

[Sir Zach of R.]

Think he's been brain-washed or something? Just before the war the ass-bag was completely for it; two months later, bam! He's completely against it. :cantbeli:

[M1A2U2]

The media would never report this. They only report negative things about republicans. Hmmmm i wonder why all our liberal members arent posting. Cant wait to see what they say when we find the WMDs

[martinexsquaddie]

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
there arn't any wmds to be found even bush has given up on that lie.
any politican is going to be worried about going to the polls with a war still going on.

[soma]

You don't have to swallow Monic.... ooooooo

[wholagun]

You guys were the most prosperous under Clinton, **** the whole world was, yet you all hate him. Well this is a military site, so I will consider the views of the fellow members.
However, Clinton is the only president to come into office and leave office with his poularity never dipping, it was on a constant drive up (show a graph in politics class). Not even Bush is able to do that.

I can't get enough of Clinton he is the greatest, and I can't wait for him to finish his damn memoirs so that I can go and buy them.

[George W. Bush]

Let's just say Mr.Clinton and I disagree on certain issues.

[BlackRain]

However, Clinton is the only president to come into office and leave office with his poularity never dipping, it was on a constant drive up (show a graph in politics class). Not even Bush is able to do that.

I can't get enough of Clinton he is the greatest, and I can't wait for him to finish his damn memoirs so that I can go and buy them.


Sorry...friend but your statement about Bill Clinton's popularity are patently false. Clinton's president term ended in disgrace and polarized the USA.



Gallup poll: Clinton popularity at all-time low
March 9, 2001
Web posted at: 1:36 PM EST (1836 GMT)


PRINCETON, N.J. (CNN) -- The popularity of former President Clinton has plunged in the wake of the pardons controversy to the lowest level ever, results of the latest Gallup Poll showed Friday, while his successor's (GEORGE BUSH) approval ratings have soared just as dramatically.

In a poll conducted Monday through Wednesday of this week, only 39 percent of respondents said they have a favorable opinion of the former president, while 59 percent said they have an unfavorable opinion of him. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Clinton's previous low favorable rating was 42 percent, reached in early August 2000 and matched in a poll taken February 19-21, the Gallup Organization said. His previous high unfavorable rating was 55 percent in the February poll.

His favorable rating has fallen 18 percent since early December, while his unfavorable rating has risen by the same amount.

By contrast, the public's opinion of President Bush has climbed since Election Day. In this week's poll, 69 percent of respondents expressed a favorable opinion of Bush while only 28 percent were unfavorable. That compares with 53 percent favorable and 43 percent unfavorable in a poll taken Nov. 13-15, Gallup said.

Clinton's image has been tarnished in the public's eye by several controversies since election day, the most prominent being several controversial pardons issued during his last hours in office.

Congressional committees and a federal prosecutor are focusing on his pardon of financier Marc Rich. Listed as an international fugitive by the Justice Department, Rich had been indicted in 1983 on tax and fraud charges but left the country before he could stand trial. Investigators have questioned whether contributions made by Rich's ex-wife or fund-raising by a friend of hers may have influence the granting of the pardon.

Questions also have been raised about whether Clinton relatives improperly influenced other pardon decisions.

[Tengu]

Perhaps most americans don't know it but clinton was and is VERY popular in europe. I didn't like him though.

[Seiyuuki]

Perhaps most americans don't know it but clinton was and is VERY popular in europe. I didn't like him though.

That raise an interesting question? Who's voting for a president to run this country, the Europeans or the Americans?

[Vance]

Perhaps most americans don't know it but clinton was and is VERY popular in europe. I didn't like him though.

That raise an interesting question? Who's voting for a president to run this country, the Europeans or the Americans?
Word. Hah.

[BlackRain]

Perhaps most americans don't know it but clinton was and is VERY popular in europe. I didn't like him though.

That raise an interesting question? Who's voting for a president to run this country, the Europeans or the Americans?


It falls under the axiom... "When the USA sneezes, the whole world catches a cold".

It is understandable the folks living outside the USA would want a say in how their future economic situation and security could be affected by a presidential campaign.

However, it is illegal for foreigners to contribute money or assist candidates. Unless of course, you are Bill Clinton and the Chinese government.


The Justice Department is looking at whether two defense contractors working with China on commercial satellite ventures, Loral Space and Communications Ltd. and Hughes Electronics, may have violated security laws by providing China with a report on a 1996 accident in which a Chinese rocket carrying a U.S.-built satellite exploded.

At issue is whether the information provided might have helped China improve its ballistic missile arsenal.

The Clinton Administration has said the exports were approved under strict security provisions that protect sensitive information.

And Clinton has denied that campaign contributions played any role in the conduct of American policy toward China.

[Tengu]

Perhaps most americans don't know it but clinton was and is VERY popular in europe. I didn't like him though.

That raise an interesting question? Who's voting for a president to run this country, the Europeans or the Americans?This has nothing to do with voting. Just saying many of the anti-bush (i am pro-bush btw) people liked clinton ALOT.

[Haiw]

I hate to spoil your party, but when Clinton left your country budget saldo was positive...now it's negative. Go figure.

[Ratamacue]

Clinton never sent the US to war. Go figure.

[budanski]

I hate to spoil your party, but when Clinton left your country budget saldo was positive...now it's negative. Go figure.

Surplus was there, prior to 9/11 and was already depleting prior to Bush's term.

Recession Began With Clinton, Says JEC (http://www.insightmag.com/news/2002/10/29/DailyInsight/Recession.Began.With.Clinton.Says.Jec-297600.shtml)

"The death-drop of the stock market did not begin with the Bush administration in January 2001, says the congressional Joint Economic Committee (JEC), but in March 2000 under the Clinton administration when it began its all-out attack on the entrepreneurs of the booming U.S. high-tech industry. Indeed, The Economist reports that this poisoning of the economic stream even may have begun in the late 1990s. According to JEC Chairman Rep. Jim Saxton, "The 2000 NASDAQ collapse also corroborates a variety of other data indicating that a sharp economic slowdown was under way by the middle of 2000."


Joint Economic Committee's Website. (http://www.house.gov/jec/)

The JEC also found that job losses began under Clinton as well:

"Virtually all of the net payroll job loss in recent years is accounted for by the manufacturing sector, and this decline in factory jobs began before the current Administration took office, Vice Chairman Jim Saxton said today. Opponents of the Administration have repeatedly claimed that its policies have caused the decline in manufacturing employment, but fail to explain how this trend began long before any changes in policy took place. The facts show that manufacturing employment reached a cyclical peak in 1998, trending downward thereafter. Consecutive monthly declines in manufacturing employment began in 2000. Moreover, manufacturing employment has been trending downward over a much longer period."

[Sixgun Symphony]

You guys were the most prosperous under Clinton, **** the whole world was, yet you all hate him. Well this is a military site, so I will consider the views of the fellow members.
However, Clinton is the only president to come into office and leave office with his poularity never dipping, it was on a constant drive up (show a graph in politics class). Not even Bush is able to do that.

I can't get enough of Clinton he is the greatest, and I can't wait for him to finish his damn memoirs so that I can go and buy them.


Clinton was a puke socialist. An internationalist who kissed up to the United Nations at the peril of national soveriegnty. The Euro-Socialists loved him because he was a fellow traveller.

No, he was not so popular here. Things were very divided and you ought to question whatever sources were telling you that his popularity was never dipping.

[Sixgun Symphony]

Clinton never sent the US to war. Go figure.

Bosnia, Kosovo...

[Ratamacue]

Bosnia and Kosovo were police actions, not wars. Maybe in the technical sense they were but not practically.

[GazB]

Clinton doesn't/didn't care about national security


Hahahahahaha... yes, of course, Kosovo was a US national security issue.


That raise an interesting question? Who's voting for a president to run this country, the Europeans or the Americans?

Considering your foreign policies get countries bombed perhaps non americans should get to vote... but then you'd probably ignore them or count them wrong. Or ignore them like you do the UN when it suits you...

What do you call someone who will attack and kill for an organisation when it suits them and ignores that same org when it doesn't suit them to listen? Though I should add that the US is not the only country that does that... the US just seems to do it the most.

[Sixgun Symphony]

Bosnia and Kosovo were police actions, not wars. Maybe in the technical sense they were but not practically.

The term "police action" is Orwellian newspeak for war. Like calling our soldiers "peacekeepers".

[Sixgun Symphony]

There were no US security interests at stake in the Balkan's Wars. It is Europe's back yard, let the European's deal with it.

Clinton got US involved because he wanted to empower international organizations like NATO and the UN. He put our soldiers in the blue beret uniform of the UN, the bastard.


Ignore the UN? You are damn right! The internationalists want to make the UN into some kind of global government. To hell with that. We are a soveriegn nation.

If the US makes war on an enemy, then it is for the US congress and not the UN to decide if we go to war or not.




Clinton doesn't/didn't care about national security


Hahahahahaha... yes, of course, Kosovo was a US national security issue.


That raise an interesting question? Who's voting for a president to run this country, the Europeans or the Americans?

Considering your foreign policies get countries bombed perhaps non americans should get to vote... but then you'd probably ignore them or count them wrong. Or ignore them like you do the UN when it suits you...

What do you call someone who will attack and kill for an organisation when it suits them and ignores that same org when it doesn't suit them to listen? Though I should add that the US is not the only country that does that... the US just seems to do it the most.

[mocking_loudly_died]

Yeah, lets wear short shorts, carry clubs, bash minorities, kill hippies, ravage women, nuke commies while smearing feces all over the UN flag.

USA, USA, USA!

Sorry.

These extreme right wing ideologies and simplistic world views on forums make Mocking go crazy.

rofl

[Uninen]

There were no US security interests at stake in the Balkan's Wars.

:lol:

Funny how CIA financed, trained and organised the KLA then?

:bash:

[Seiyuuki]

I hate to spoil your party, but when Clinton left your country budget saldo was positive...now it's negative. Go figure.

I hate to spoil your party, but in the world of politics, a balance budget is pride above all and having a surplus is as bad as a deficit.

Surplus - the Government was screwing your money.
Deficit - the Government is screwing your money.
Either way - your money will be screw.

[mocking_loudly_died]

For Seiyuuki:

Born from an egg on a mountain top,
The punkiest Monkey that ever popped,
He knew every magic trick under the sun,
To tease the gods
And everyone can have some fun.
Monkey magic, Monkey magic,
Monkey magic, Monkey magic,
Monkey magic, Monkey magic ooh

What a cocky, saucey Monkey this one is.
All the Gods were angry and they punished him.
Until he was saved by a kindly priest,
And that was the start of their pilgrimage quest.
Monkey magic, Monkey magic,
Monkey magic, Monkey magic,
Monkey magic, Monkey magic,
Monkey magic, Monkey magic ooh!

[California Joe]

That sounded hot cause I imagined Kelly Hu saying it naked.

[Seiyuuki]

Considering your foreign policies get countries bombed perhaps non americans should get to vote... but then you'd probably ignore them or count them wrong. Or ignore them like you do the UN when it suits you...

Well, one obvious reason is idiot like you will actually get to vote.


What do you call someone who will attack and kill for an organisation when it suits them and ignores that same org when it doesn't suit them to listen?

NATO


Though I should add that the US is not the only country that does that... the US just seems to do it the most.

Incorporated since 1775.

You should take International Studies, fun class...the first thing our professor said was, "Welcome to International Studies, where we will spend the entire quarter learning how countries around the world try to **** over each other today and everyday."

[Seiyuuki]

For Seiyuuki:

Born from an egg on a mountain top,
The punkiest Monkey that ever popped,
He knew every magic trick under the sun,
To tease the gods
And everyone can have some fun.
Monkey magic, Monkey magic,
Monkey magic, Monkey magic,
Monkey magic, Monkey magic ooh

What a cocky, saucey Monkey this one is.
All the Gods were angry and they punished him.
Until he was saved by a kindly priest,
And that was the start of their pilgrimage quest.
Monkey magic, Monkey magic,
Monkey magic, Monkey magic,
Monkey magic, Monkey magic,
Monkey magic, Monkey magic ooh!

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Monkey King is the greatest!!!

...CJ, so right, I was imagining the same thing.

[mocking_loudly_died]

The chick that played Tripitaka was a babe.

ooooooh.

[Sixgun Symphony]

There were no US security interests at stake in the Balkan's Wars.

:lol:

Funny how CIA financed, trained and organised the KLA then?

:bash:

CIA had to follow the orders of the commander in chief, Bill Clinton at the time.

With the end of the Cold War, Clinton and his internationalist clique had to find a new role for NATO to make it relevent.

[Royal]

There were no US security interests at stake in the Balkan's Wars. It is Europe's back yard, let the European's deal with it.

Clinton got US involved because he wanted to empower international organizations like NATO and the UN. He put our soldiers in the blue beret uniform of the UN, the bastard.


Clinton didn't put a single man 'in the blue beret uniform of the UN'. They went there as part of NATO. They are there as part of NATO.

And don't get me onto Clintons support, both moral & physical for the Croats, Bosnian Muslims and Ethnic Albanians...

[Uninen]

With the end of the Cold War, Clinton and his internationalist clique had to find a new role for NATO to make it relevent.

USSR or no..

In real world NATO has never been irrelevant..

Maybe only in the eyes of public..

:|

[GazB]

Ignore the UN? You are damn right! The internationalists want to make the UN into some kind of global government. To hell with that. We are a soveriegn nation.

I am sorry but that is hilarious. The US has probably the worst record of interfering with soveriegn countries on the planet. Overthrowing governments to put in tyrants is a hobby for you guys. The fact that you want others to respect you when all you seem to respect is who has nukes and who doesn't is really very funny.


Well, one obvious reason is idiot like you will actually get to vote.


Probably just as well as instructions like punch out little circle next to the candidate of your choice sounds too complicated for me.

"Hey Darryl get off your sister... you know its your brothers turn..."

[Sixgun Symphony]

You seem to have forgotten about the Cold War and who we were fighting. Knocking over Banana Republics was more or less a chess game between the two sides of that conflict.

Now, back to the UN. It is an organization founded by leftists, the charter was drawn up by Eleanor Roosevelt among others. Their dream was for the UN to become the framework for a world government.


It is long past time for the UN to die.

[budanski]

GazB is just spiteful that his blessed USSR collapsed cutting short of making the world its satellite states. (*best impression of a scooby-doo bad guy) They could have succeeded if it werent for those meddling americans. ;)

[serbian boy]

Those were or wars the west had no buisness getting involved! The only reason Clinton ordered the bombing of my country is because he needed to get attention of his Monica Lewinsky scandal!