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J-10
11-10-2005, 11:56 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9989014/
U.S., Europe ready to OK Iran nuclear activities
Officials: Countries set to allow Tehran to continue converting raw uranium
Updated: 7:23 a.m. ET Nov. 10, 2005

VIENNA, Austria - The United States and Europe are ready to compromise with Iran over its nuclear program and have tentatively approved a plan that would allow it to make the precursor of enriched uranium, senior officials said Thursday.

The officials said the plan would allow Iran to convert raw uranium into the gas that is spun by centrifuges into enriched uranium. But the actual enrichment would take place in Russia, the officials told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because they weren’t authorized to reveal the strategy.

Depending on its level, enrichment can be used to generate energy or make nuclear weapons. Iran insists it is interested in the technology only to produce power, but the United States and many other countries fear Tehran wants to enrich uranium to weapons-grade levels to use as the fissile core in warheads.

Iran has refused to bow to international demands that it renounce its right to enrichment and related activities and in August resumed uranium conversion. That prompted Britain, France and Germany to break off talks with Tehran meant to dispel fears about its nuclear agenda. It also led a September meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency’s 35-nation board to approve a resolution clearing the path for Iran’s referral to the U.N. Security Council at a Nov. 24 board meeting.

Publicly, both the Americans and the three European nations representing the European Union have insisted that Iran needed to stop conversion — an enrichment-related activity — to defuse the threat of Security Council referral.

But a senior European official told the AP Thursday that the EU-Three and Washington were now prepared to allow Iran to continue conversion as long as the gas produced was shipped to Russia and enriched there. That would allow international control over the level of enrichment, ensuring that it was below the levels that can be used for weapons. The development was first reported by The New York Times on Thursday.

A diplomat close to the IAEA confirmed the change in strategy but refused to elaborate.

The official emphasized the plan would not formally be proposed by the Americans and Europeans. Instead, he said, they were looking to the Russians to make such an offer that they then could approve.

That would give Washington, Paris, London and Berlin a chance to save diplomatic face after months of saying they would not accept conversion, he indicated.

Impulse_t0
11-10-2005, 12:26 PM
uh oh.......

ElHombre
11-10-2005, 12:59 PM
The official emphasized the plan would not formally be proposed by the Americans and Europeans. Instead, he said, they were looking to the Russians to make such an offer that they then could approve.

That would give Washington, Paris, London and Berlin a chance to save diplomatic face after months of saying they would not accept conversion, he indicated.

'we caved and we're going to ask the russians to let the iranians know.' puyin must be laughing his ass off.

Bluezoo
11-10-2005, 01:02 PM
Appeasement is contagious.

usm2b
11-10-2005, 01:58 PM
Nice job....fuc*in A!

Clarsachier
11-10-2005, 02:43 PM
:roll: Quote ;"That would give Washington, Paris, London and Berlin a chance to save diplomatic face after months of saying they would not accept conversion, he indicated."

Since it seems Iran has won, why would they allow their advisaries any face saving options? They'll just take the initiative this opportunity gives them to further embarrass us.

And (I guess it's just me) but, the scenerio of covoys containing pre fissionable materials traveling through the Iranian/Russian frontier seems to be about the biggest security risk possible.

tehllama
11-10-2005, 03:17 PM
What? Convoys of fissionable materials going through backwater areas dangerous? Where are you getting your info from :)

Pfft! 'as long as it was shipped back to Russia'. Am I the only one who doesn't see the utter transparency of that, to my knowledge Russia is best able and very well equipped to handle any refinement process, whoever the dum**** is writing this appears to have not noticed that.

Laworkerbee
11-10-2005, 03:22 PM
Russia is best able to contain materials traveling through Southern Russia? gimme a break....say hello to a Chechyan dirty bomb is that happens.

Lt-Col A. Tack
11-10-2005, 09:27 PM
Seems to me the west has thrown the problem into the Russians lap, as the supplier to Iran they are now asked to make sure it does not go weapons grade, seems reasonable to me. If the Irani's say stick it, they just are continuing to prove they are a possible danger, if Russia says stick it they come across as a country that will supply a state such as Iran and not help control the possible outcome.
The problem is that if either of the two parties fails to honor the agreement, nobody in the international community will be able to do a thing.

asch
11-10-2005, 09:54 PM
gimme a break....say hello to a Chechyan dirty bomb is that happens.
"rissian dirty bombs", yeah.
they yellin about poor security radioactive materials over last 20 years.
so, how many dirty bombs was maked and used?
so, you have speculation here.

Bluezoo
11-11-2005, 11:09 AM
Rice dismisses EU-US nuclear offer to Tehran
11.11.2005 - 09:44 CET | By Lisbeth Kirk US secretary of state Condoleezza Rice has denied there is any EU-US backing of a Russian proposal to resolve a long-running nuclear dispute with Iran.

"There is no US-European proposal to the Iranians, I want to say that categorically," Mrs Rice told reporters, according to the BBC.

"There isn't and there won't be. We are not parties to these negotiations and we don't intend to become parties to the negotiations."

The proposal would permit Iran to conduct very limited nuclear activities on its own soil, while the enrichment of uranium would take place in Russia.

Without a new proposal to break the current impasse over Tehran's nuclear program, the dispute may be referred to the UN Security Council for possible sanctions to be imposed on Iran.

Iran has insisted that its nuclear program is entirely intended for peaceful purposes.

Deep divisions

The latest proposal was discussed at length earlier this week at a meeting between Condoleezza Rice and Mohamed ElBaradei, the director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, the United Nations' nuclear monitoring agency, the New York Times reported.

But the new proposal has deeply divided the Bush administration, according to the paper.

"The problem with this offer is that if the Iranians have a secret enrichment plant someplace that we don't know about, we're leaving them with the raw material they need," a senior American official was quoted saying.

The US fears Iran could use the highly enriched uranium to build a nuclear weapon.

Only a few weeks ago Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sparked massive international protests, when he stated that Israel should be "wiped off the map".

His remarks fuelled efforts by the US and the EU to have the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) refer Iran to the UN security council at its meeting in Vienna later this month.

France, Germany and the UK – the EU 3 – signed a deal with Iran in Paris last November under which Tehran agreed to halt enrichment while negotiations continue.

But Iran rejected the EU’s trade-based proposal over the summer and resumed enrichment at its plant in Isfahan, claiming a right to nuclear energy under international law.
http://euobserver.com/9/20301

Teaser
11-11-2005, 12:38 PM
U.S. denied of accepting any deal with Iran

Clarsachier
11-11-2005, 01:28 PM
So, I was looking for a retraction from CNN today. Instead, they reiterated the story.

A possible explaination is that the measure is agreed upon by vote in closed session and is being implimented. While at the same time, U.S. administration (Rice's comment) doesn't accept the agreement and will do all possible to derail it.

Wanna bet?$

Limeyfellow
11-11-2005, 01:36 PM
I'm more concerned with Pakistan's nuclear programme. They made nuclear weapons and were selling the technology to anyone who wanted it, in a country which has strong Taliban and terrorist group sympathies and ruled by a nutjob military dictator who no one knows when he will be replaced.

Theres not enough active forces to go to war with Iran over the issue is the main problem without declaring the draft which would be political suicide and politicians care more about their own arses than anything else.

Clarsachier
11-18-2005, 10:17 PM
"President George W. Bush told President Vladimir Putin on Friday that the United States was willing to accept a nuclear compromise, rejected by Tehran in recent days, that would move all of Iran's enrichment of uranium to Russia."

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/11/18/news/bush.php