Prince Charles visits troops in Iraq

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Prince of Wales visits Basra, jolly good show, don't you think? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3470651.stm)

[Roger Rabbit]

Were they cheered up?

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who the fvck knows? maybe they were, you know the rumours, he may have given them pleasure (http://64.106.169.225/Clients/kinkade/Album3/bukkake.gif) by just being there.

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BBC just put this up

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39835000/jpg/_39835675_charles_pa203.jpg

[budanski]

Feeling patriot today, are we? I thought only Americans were guilty of this. ;)

[Argyll]

I think they'd have been Happier if Geoff Hoon resigned!!

Have you read the **** about thoses RMP's?.........what a balls up if there ever was!!

[marktigger]

sounds about right. If I remember emphesis at time was to be pink and fluffy.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3469761.stm


Six Royal Military Policemen killed by a mob in Iraq were given as few as 20 bullets each, a newspaper report claims.
The Red Caps - who should have had 600 rounds - were also forced to hand back grenades and doses of morphine, the News of the World said.

They were killed in an Iraqi police station on 24 June last year after being surrounded by more than 400 protesting Iraqis.

The MoD declined to comment until an Army investigation was completed.

RMP TROOPS KILLED IN IRAQ
Corporal Simon Miller, 21
Tyne and Wear
Sergeant Simon Alexander Hamilton-Jewell, 41
from Chessington, Surrey
Corporal Russell Aston, 30
Swadlincote, Derbyshire
Corporal Paul Graham Long, 24
Colchester
Lance-Corporal Benjamin John McGowan Hyde, 23
Northallerton, Yorks
Lance-Corporal Thomas Richard Keys, 20
Bala, N Wales
The men were also given faulty radios and lacked heavy machine guns, according to the newspaper, which claimed to have seen a copy of a report by the Army's Special Investigation Branch.

The Red Caps from 156 Provost Company were in Iraq to train Iraqi policemen in Majar el-Kabir, 120 miles north of Basra.

It is thought they were attacked during demonstrations against what were seen as heavy-handed weapons searches by British forces.

An MoD spokesman said: "The investigation being conducted by the Royal Military Police will be looking into the issues of morphine and ammunition.

"It is therefore not appropriate to comment until the investigation is completed."



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/3470707.stm

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Feeling patriot today, are we? I thought only Americans were guilty of this. ;)

not more than usual, the nuances were that of a pisstake :D

[SeanAshi]

I think they'd have been Happier if Geoff Hoon resigned!!
Argyll, you don't speak for everyone.

[martinexsquaddie]

most members of hm forces would like a nasty accident involving a red hot poker and his bottom to happen to the bufhoon :lol:

[California Joe]

Charles was a Royal Marine right?

[Gordon]

no, he was in the Royal Navy but not a Royal Marine.


Here's a summary of his military career:

1969.08.02 Preliminary Flying Badge
1971 RAF Cranwell flying instruction
1971.08.20 RAF wings
1971.09.15 Acting Sub-Lieutenant, Royal Naval College, Dartmouth
1973.05.01 Acting Lieutenant, Royal Navy
1973 Personal Aide-de-Camp to the Queen (ADC)
1976.12.15 end of active service
1977.01.01 Commander, Royal Navy
1978 parachute wings
1988.11.14 Captain, Royal Navy; Group Captain, Royal Air Force
1998.11.14 Rear Admiral, Royal Navy; Major General, Army; Air Vice Marshal, Royal Air Force

(Note: I don't think he actually got his para wings for juming out of planes, if you get what i mean .. ;) )


Here's a list of his Honorary Military appointments:


1969.06.11 Colonel-in-Chief , The Royal Regiment of Wales (24th/41st Foot) [on formation]
1975.03.01 Colonel, Welsh Guards
1977.06.11 Colonel-in-Chief, The Cheshire Regiment
1977.06.11 Colonel-in-Chief, The Gordon Highlanders
1977.06.11 Colonel-in-Chief, The Parachute Regiment
1977.06.11 Colonel-in-Chief, 2nd King Edward VII's Own Gurkha Rifles (The Sirmoor Rifles)
1977.06.11 Honorary Air Commodore, Royal Air Force Brawdy [terminated 1992]
1977.06.11 Colonel-in-Chief, Lord Strathcona's Horse (Royal Canadians)
1977.06.11 Colonel-in-Chief, The Royal Regiment of Canada
1977.06.11 Colonel-in-Chief, Air Reserve Group of Air Command
1977.06.11 Colonel-in-Chief, The Royal Winnipeg Rifles
1977.06.11 Colonel-in-Chief, Royal Australian Armoured Corps
1977.06.11 Air Commodore-in-Chief, Royal New Zealand Air Force
1984.08.08 Colonel-in-Chief, The Royal Pacific Islands Regiment
1985.07.29 Colonel-in-Chief, 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards [to 1992]
1985.09.17 Colonel-in-Chief, The Royal Canadian Dragoons
1992.03.01 Colonel-in-Chief, Army Air Corps
1992.07.01 Colonel-in-Chief, The Royal Dragoon Guards [on formation]
1993.04.01 Honorary Air Commodore, Royal Air Force Valley
1994.07.01 Colonel-in-Chief, The Royal Gurkha Rifles [on formation]
1994.09.01 Deputy Colonel-in-Chief, The Highlanders (Seaforth, Gordons and Camerons) [on formation]
2000.06.17 Royal Honorary Colonel, The Queen's Own Yeomanry
2003.07.01 Colonel-in-Chief, 1st The Queen's Dragoon Guards
2003.07.01 Colonel-in-Chief, The King's Regiment
2003.07.01 Colonel-in-Chief, The Black Watch (Royal Highlanders)

quite a few eh.


If any of the above needs correcting feel free, obviously I didn't just recall all the above from memory so I just grabbed it off a website, seems pretty accurate though from what I can remember.

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Charles was a Royal Marine right?

failed royal marine was the other, commonly know as ****head aka Edward

[DeltaWhisky58]

Gordon Said:

(Note: I don't think he actually got his para wings for juming out of planes, if you get what i mean .. )

HRH Prince Charles certainly did parachute training at No.1 PTS Abingdon - whether he did the full seven jumps I'm not sure, but he did jump training.

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I think they'd have been Happier if Geoff Hoon resigned!!
Argyll, you don't speak for everyone.

he does


some pics

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39835000/jpg/_39835893_helicopter.jpg


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The Prince of Wales wears a bullet proof jacket as he heads for Basra by helicopter.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39835000/jpg/_39835883_chinook.jpg


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A Chinook helicopter lands Princes Charles and his entourage at Basra Airport.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39835000/jpg/_39835885_arrival.jpg


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Armed soldiers escort the Prince as he heads off to meet British soldiers.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39835000/jpg/_39835887_cuppa.jpg



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Soldiers enjoy a chat and a cuppa with the Prince on the patio of Saddam Hussein's former palace.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39835000/jpg/_39835891_talks.jpg


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The Prince talks with British troops patrolling the streets of the Southern Iraqi city.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39835000/jpg/_39835889_crowd.jpg


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The Al-Sarraji Palace compound provides an ideal setting for a group photo.

[Argyll]

I think they'd have been Happier if Geoff Hoon resigned!!
Argyll, you don't speak for everyone.


And you are where in the world?.......oh that's right The USA

And you would be an ex British Soldier,or serving British Soldier,who would know all about the ****e the Ministry of Defence has done to the morale of the fighting troops of the British Army.........Sean STFU!!!

[DeltaWhisky58]

Note the change of beret - Para to 1 RRW - HRH is Colonel in Chief of both Regiments.

[California Joe]

Thanks for the clarification G. Wasn't sure so I thought I'd ask.

[IDFM203]

BBC just put this up

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39835000/jpg/_39835675_charles_pa203.jpgBoy you gotta respect the brits for staying committed to their traditions ;)

I mean geez tea-time even in a combat zone :D

Just curious, do brit soldiers have tea in their canteens so when mid afternoon rolls around, even if they are in middle of some patrol, they stop for tea time ;)

P.S. Just trying to liven up the mood on this Sunday before another week of all out flaming p-)

Shalom :D

[Argyll]

Nothing beats a good brew up!!

[Jeff White]

Nothing beats a good brew up!!


oh, I don't know. Given the choice between a blow job and a brew I know which one I'd pick. ;)

Then again depends whos doing the blowing I suppose :D

[DeltaWhisky58]

OK, so HRH Col. Chuck likes a good brew up, but it's not exactly Army tea.................Earl Grey with a teaspoon of honey is the preferred brew!............wonder if they managed that in Basra?

So what - I bet the troops are well pleased he went out to see them. If there was a popularity poll of their favourite VIP visitors, I reckon that Chuck would fair better than Blair, Hoon or Straw! HRH knows what he's talking about with the boys, more than the other three.

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Just curious, do brit soldiers have tea in their canteens so when mid afternoon rolls around, even if they are in middle of some patrol, they stop for tea time ;)

Shalom :D

and the answer is,

http://www.photos.mod.uk/lowres/45142/45142638.jpg

of course

[Argyll]

Nothing beats a good brew up!!


oh, I don't know. Given the choice between a blow job and a brew I know which one I'd pick. ;)

Then again depends whos doing the blowing I suppose :D

LOL......I meant out on Ops!! ;)

[usa320]

woot

[duck]

Prince Charles is a fascinating Old World person. I actually share his passion for organic farming and he seems to be one of those old-school "Never explain, never complain"-type British icons. His younger son is looking forward to a military career and will attend Sandhurst, is that correct?

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probably

[Uninen]

How big of him..

Wasnt it his Bro Adrew or what that was that actually was a chopper pilot in Falklands war?

:lol:

No, Charles no.

:bash:

[SeanAshi]

Aren't Prince William and Harry going to be pilots?

[jamesp]

Wasnt it his Bro Adrew or what that was that actually was a chopper pilot in Falklands war?




Yep thats right. He flew many hours from HMS Invincible. He was out on anti submarine patrol when one of the ships was hit by an argentine bomb, I forget which ship, possibly HMS Sheffield. And he helped evacuate the crew from the ship. He was interviewed on a Falklands documentary I watched last month.


Aren't Prince William and Harry going to be pilots?

I think theyre joining the Welsh Guards.

[Uninen]

Hmm..

Did he by any change take any part on that attack against Santa Fe that Argentine sub..?

Ian Stanley was the first pilot to attack it, but other choppers also took shots at it.. later..

[SeanAshi]

I think that ship was hit with a French made Exocet anti ship missile, but I could be wrong.

[jamesp]

Did he by any change take any part on that attack against Santa Fe that Argentine sub..? .

I don't think so. This is all I can find about him.

http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page469.asp



I think that ship was hit with a French made Exocet anti ship missile, but I could be wrong.

Yeah it was, I was just about to edit my original post to state this.

[Uninen]

HMS Sheffield was sunk by Exocet while in radar picket duty.. (advance warning / defence..)

:|

[stuntman]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39835000/jpg/_39835893_helicopter.jpg
What exactly is the reason why the plate pocket is so small? What if they shoot under it? I'm not flaming im just curious to why one of the most dangerous forces in the world use this body armor? THX!

[Royal]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39835000/jpg/_39835893_helicopter.jpg
What exactly is the reason why the plate pocket is so small? What if they shoot under it? I'm not flaming im just curious to why one of the most dangerous forces in the world use this body armor? THX!

The plate pocket is so small 'cos that's the size of the plate. The plate is so small because that is the size needed to cover the heart and major arteries (the critical organs). The idea is to provide a vest that can be worn at all times without causing undue risk of heat stress injury or restricting movement or endurance in combat.

[NcDeuce]

Question: What's the deal with tea breaks?

[Roger Rabbit]

In the 24 hour ration packs you get several satchetes(sp?) of tea(powder that includes milk) which you add hot water to and voila you have a cup of tea. The point of tea breaks is to get a warm drink inside you which makes you feel much happier. Tea breaks are a part of British culture i reckon. Builders take a tea break, people i worked in an office with had tea breaks, when i drove a van i took tea breaks and sort loads of other people doing the same(parked in a Motorway service station). It gives you a quick 5-15 minute rest and gets you hydrated as well as warm.

Anyway i may have read too much into this. As for tea and tea breaks in the British army for up to date infomation wait and see if one of the BTDTs has anything to say. In the past ie pre 1945 from what i've read then tea has been an important part of the British Army rations with it being provided during the Napoleonic Wars and during World War 2. If you read any of Don Burgett's books(served with the PIR dring WW2) then he comments on the tea rations when in Holland he recieved them instead of US rations. Other books which detail the day to day life of British soldiers usually get a mention of tea somewhere. Enough of going majorly off topic now though.

[martinexsquaddie]

its tea bags and seperate non dairy whitener
Britsh army leaves on Tea
recipe for standard army tea
one 10 man tea bag
two cans evaporated milk
one bag of sugar
dilute with boiling water :D

[Ian H]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39835000/jpg/_39835893_helicopter.jpg
What exactly is the reason why the plate pocket is so small? What if they shoot under it? I'm not flaming im just curious to why one of the most dangerous forces in the world use this body armor? THX!

The plate pocket is so small 'cos that's the size of the plate. The plate is so small because that is the size needed to cover the heart and major arteries (the critical organs). The idea is to provide a vest that can be worn at all times without causing undue risk of heat stress injury or restricting movement or endurance in combat.



Do you and anyone else who wear it feel happy with its size? I'm interested because of the rave reviews given to the US Interceptor vest, which of course has a much bigger plate. Would you prefer something that size?

Thanks in advance.

[martinexsquaddie]

personal armour is like everything its a trade off the interceptor vest offers more protection but its heavier which means your more likely to take it off. CBA will save your life my brother was at Basra airport and some american was flapping cause he'd lost his interceptor vest my brother said he had got used to sleeping in his CBA

[Royal]

its tea bags and seperate non dairy whitener

You do get 'instant tea' in arctic (and I think some other packs).


Do you and anyone else who wear it feel happy with its size? I'm interested because of the rave reviews given to the US Interceptor vest, which of course has a much bigger plate. Would you prefer something that size?

Thanks in advance.

I like it, for the reasons I've given. I.e. I'm actually prepared to wear it most of the time. There is better stuff around, but it's not going to be standard issue any time soon. Any heavier and (IMHO) guys will stop wearing it all the time and we will have many more heat injuries.

I don't have any figures but I remember seeing guys from 10th Mountain coming in with heat stress in Afghanstan (where it was high and not that hot) and I know there have been US personnel who've died of heat stress in Iraq due in large part to their CBA. This can be alleviated by training in the kit, but even fit acclimitaised troops will suffer - one of the reasons that lip service has been paid to training in CBA by both the US and UK over the recent past. I'm happy to say that that is changing.

[Kitsune]

Charles was probably ALL EARS to hear about the problems the British troops are facing in Iraq...

Sry...couldn't resist...

p-)

[Argyll]

Hmm..

Did he by any change take any part on that attack against Santa Fe that Argentine sub..?

Ian Stanley was the first pilot to attack it, but other choppers also took shots at it.. later..

The answer is no,the Santa Fe was sunk in Grytviken in South Georgia 200 miles away from the FI's She was attacked By HMS Antrim's WESSEX with Depth charges as she tried to leave,then attacked by HMS Brilliant's LYNX with a homing torpedo,Then HMS Endurance's WASP fire 2 A/S Missiles one hitting the Fin,HMS Plymouth's WASP was also involved in Firing at the Santa Fe

Andrew was involved in CASEVAC from the Sir Galahad ,when the Welsh Guards got hit pretty hard!

[martinexsquaddie]

my brothers response to charlies coming to basra is I'm afaird unreaptable.
they have just been offered the chance to extend for 6 months.
the response to this once in a life time offer is also unrepeatable rofl