View Full Version : Digital AUSCAM
Bugalugs
11-14-2005, 07:17 PM
heres a new product from SORD, that would make an excellent replacement for enemy cams (and possibly Auscam eventually).
It at least would be better than enemy party running around in DPDU's and sticking out like dogs nuits!
(better for them, not us, that is!)
http://www.sordaustralia.com/policecam.htm
Creeper
11-14-2005, 08:45 PM
I am going to buy stock in this company due to the fact that the Hard Face Jacket which I wear, is a Totally Primo designed piece of equipment, intelligently designed, well thought out. It lends example to the operation as a whole.
G'day all.
WarriorMonk
11-14-2005, 09:11 PM
That doesn't look quite digital...looks kinda like the same Auscam as before.
Amandil
11-14-2005, 09:41 PM
Looks a helluva lot like the Japanese jetai (sp?) camo to me.
catalyst
11-14-2005, 10:56 PM
Creeper - it is great jacket hay! Just beware of imitations by another melbourne company that makes illegal copies....
dave
heres a new product from SORD, that would make an excellent replacement for enemy cams (and possibly Auscam eventually).
It at least would be better than enemy party running around in DPDU's and sticking out like dogs nuits!
(better for them, not us, that is!)
http://www.sordaustralia.com/policecam.htm
Considering that there already was an 'enemy' cam made some years ago (DPCU but in "Russian" styled colours) and the excuse for not implementing into full usuage was due to cost, I can hardly see why the ADF would purchase a complete new uniform that would cost more than standard DPCU's simply for OPFOR.
I predict VicPol SOG being the first Police unit to deploy with it, if any in the near future....As for others, I see them taking the standard "why spend additional $ on something that already works (DPCU) that isn't used all too often".
It does look good though, even if it appears to be a DPCU coloured Fectarn-ish camo styled in the new US ACU cut.
In a perfect world it would be issued tomorrow.
Bugalugs
11-14-2005, 11:12 PM
The fabric itself may not be more expensive to produce than jellybean - do any yanks know whether the marpat/cadpat proved to be a cheaper or more expensive pattern to produce than the old uniforms?
i never saw the old enemy cam you refer to, only the imitation of US desert cam used so as not to upset our northern neighbors by wearing uniforms similar to theirs, regardless of the fact it made training unrealistic.
The fabric itself may not be more expensive to produce than jellybean - do any yanks know whether the marpat/cadpat proved to be a cheaper or more expensive pattern to produce than the old uniforms?
i never saw the old enemy cam you refer to, only the imitation of US desert cam used so as not to upset our northern neighbors by wearing uniforms similar to theirs, regardless of the fact it made training unrealistic.
The ACU costs more to produce.....but the arguement is that it's off-set by the fact that it replaces the need for 2 different sets of cams to be issued (bush and desert).
Of course this would cost more than standard DPCU, it's got extra pockets and a new collar and velcro. Even if it costs only $10 a unit more than standard DPCU the ADF would have a huge whinge about such a cost considering the amount that would need to be issued across all three services, and still issue a desert DPCU (or re-moddled "digital" one).
While I, and many others no doubt, would like to see it happen, I can't say it will any time soon.
A certain other company that makes many other camo uniforms is already in the process of making some digital AusCam samples.......
hammerlock
11-15-2005, 12:05 AM
Digital why on earth would buy it, AUSCAM works great by itself. This is just a cheap marketing job to sell more but jumping the digital band wagon. And what is with the velcro, like that will work after a week of dirt and it looks like crap. Really it might be old school but sew the damm badges on...
op centre
11-15-2005, 02:15 AM
It leaves the current Auscam for dead. But it is more of a flecktar pattern like what the germans and japanese use rather the a digital pattern used by the canadians and USMC.
Bugalugs
11-15-2005, 03:57 AM
Of course this would cost more than standard DPCU, it's got extra pockets and a new collar and velcro. Even if it costs only $10 a unit more than standard DPCU the ADF would have a huge whinge about such a cost considering the amount that would need to be issued across all three services, and still issue a desert DPCU (or re-moddled "digital" one).
extra pockets and velcro like the new issue cams?
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/5313/09110512297hm.jpg
ADF seems to change their DPCU fabric supplier every few years (yay for the capitalist competitive marketplace). We're changing our cams now, maybe in ten or fifteen years time, eh?
also, desert auscam (DPDU) is only issued on an "as needed" basis i.e. just before (or even just after!) deployment.......
Bugalugs
11-15-2005, 03:59 AM
hmm....Waffen S.S.?
Ja!
leftrightleftrightleftrightleftright!!!!
miguelencanarias
11-15-2005, 08:44 AM
It is almost identical to Japanese Jietai. Looks better than the current pattern, though.
sickofpretenders
11-15-2005, 08:53 AM
i never saw the old enemy cam you refer to, only the imitation of US desert cam used so as not to upset our northern neighbors by wearing uniforms similar to theirs, regardless of the fact it made training unrealistic.
How would using the cams in this thread make the training more realistic? Of all our training shortfalls, the colour of the clothing the opfor is wearing is the least of our worries.
RGRBOX
11-15-2005, 11:45 AM
Looks like the US ACU uniform in Mini AUSCAM Pattern camo....
Bugalugs
11-15-2005, 12:02 PM
How would using the cams in this thread make the training more realistic? Of all our training shortfalls, the colour of the clothing the opfor is wearing is the least of our worries.
you wouldnt be able to see them coming from a mile away anymore? Using uniforms like our northern neighbors would have been more realistic, but less palatable politically
Count Lippe
11-15-2005, 02:05 PM
Looks like the US ACU uniform in Mini AUSCAM Pattern camo....
X2
You beat me to it...
sickofpretenders
11-15-2005, 02:28 PM
you wouldnt be able to see them coming from a mile away anymore? Using uniforms like our northern neighbors would have been more realistic, but less palatable politically
What are you talking about? You think indonesian cams are harder to see than auscam (in the australian bush) and that makes a major difference in training, one that deserves money spent on it? That a different type of auscam would fix that problem? The two days you spent out field in kapooka dont qualify you to make those kind of assesments and not come off looking a fool.
RGRBOX
11-15-2005, 03:06 PM
X2
You beat me to it...
Sorry... didn't mean too....p-)
Bugalugs
11-15-2005, 03:32 PM
What are you talking about? You think indonesian cams are harder to see than auscam (in the australian bush) and that makes a major difference in training, one that deserves money spent on it? That a different type of auscam would fix that problem? The two days you spent out field in kapooka dont qualify you to make those kind of assesments and not come off looking a fool.
settle down, trained killa. This was a civil discussion.
What makes a differance is wearing cams that are close to white, as if we are going to be invaded by a middle eastern country that didnt think "hmmm...maybe we should revisiot our uniforms before we launch"
as it stands we manufacture enemy cams specifically for enemy party use - it wouldnt take much effort to change fabrics.
sickofpretenders
11-15-2005, 04:34 PM
What white cams? Your telling me in your vast field experience the enemy has always worn white? Well mate, maybe when you BASB guys do you once yearly afternoon of field training you use easy to see clothing, since your beady eyes are used to peering at computer screens rather than scanning the bush.
The operational part of the army, however, uses anything from greens to other countries cams to civvies to the regular ADF DPCU's to dress the guys playing enemy.
But thanks for your worry. Personally I think the money would be better spent on recruiting so as to vet gobby feeders out a bit better.
Bugalugs
11-15-2005, 04:58 PM
What white cams? Your telling me in your vast field experience the enemy has always worn white? Well mate, maybe when you BASB guys do you once yearly afternoon of field training you use easy to see clothing, since your beady eyes are used to peering at computer screens rather than scanning the bush.
The operational part of the army, however, uses anything from greens to other countries cams to civvies to the regular ADF DPCU's to dress the guys playing enemy.
But thanks for your worry. Personally I think the money would be better spent on recruiting so as to vet gobby feeders out a bit better.
as i said we make desert cams which seem only a few shades offf white besides auscam uniforms. CTC wear them for enemy party when they playing conventional forces, and they are spread amongst the battalions for use internal traning.
http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~camouflage/image/australian_army_3color_desert.jpg
Trident355
11-15-2005, 05:02 PM
Bugalugs,
You should gob off about stuff you know instead of stuff you know sweet **** all about.
If you're suggesting that next time the Regi wants to train for Afghanistan that the OPFOR Dresses up up in dish-dashs and robes, you gotta be kidding yourself.
Who cares what the OPFOR wears? Does it really make that big a difference?All they are there for is you to shoot at.
Go back to typing on your laptop down with the red hats.
Bugalugs
11-15-2005, 05:13 PM
No, but we often train for invasion of Australia. If someone is going to go to the effort of mounting an invasion (a big job), you dont think they would also go to the effort of kitting out their soldiers (even their recon elements) in such a manner that they can't be seen miles away because of their woodland or desert cams?
or is this invasion force going to rely on auscam scrounged of our dead and prisoners, as is often assumed in traning scenarios? These assumptions are made in training bacause noone has come up with a better solution. I am suggesting one.
Now be nice, and stop making baby Jesus cry.
Trident355
11-15-2005, 05:17 PM
No, but we often train for invasion of Australia. If someone is going to go to the effort of mounting an invasion (a big job), you dont think they would also go to the effort of kitting out their soldiers (even their recon elements) in such a manner that they can't be seen miles away because of their woodland or desert cams?
or is this invasion force going to rely on auscam scrounged of our dead and prisoners, as is often assumed in traning scenarios? These assumptions are made in training bacause noone has come up with a better solution. I am suggesting one.
Now be nice, and stop making baby Jesus cry.
Not all training exercises are against an "invasion" you moron. You obviously know nothing about training exercies.
Have you got some sort of disorder which makes you constantly fear invasion? Go see a shrink.
Soldiers have been known to wear the uniforms of the dead.
Your solution is not better.
OPFOR are there for the scenarios. Like TRIDENT said who cares what they wear. Think ahead and get the enemy to wear civi's. That seems to be the "enemy drees" these days.
You wouldn't be able to see them from "miles away" sitting in your office waiting for the frontline van to rock up.
Bugalugs
11-15-2005, 05:22 PM
only as acts of desperation- -we make the assumption that they are not sufficiently organised to have their own uniform. If they are organised enough to mount an invasion, then they are organised enough to issue new uniforms.
Go see a shrink? Why do you think 1 Bde is in Darwin? What do you think all of the Kangaroo exercises were about? Invasion of Australia has been the primary focus of the ADF until Timor, and is still a scenario we train for.
Bugalugs
11-15-2005, 05:24 PM
OPFOR are there for the scenarios. Like TRIDENT said who cares what they wear. Think ahead and get the enemy to wear civi's. That seems to be the "enemy drees" these days.
Not in conventional warfare. Even the Iraqi army had a uniform.
and how realistic are the scenarios if they are playing conventional forces, and you can see them from a mile away?
If they are playing the role for real, instead of just walking onto the target like most "enemy" do then maybe the last minute. But most guys that are OPFOR are busted asses anyway.
Bugalugs
11-15-2005, 05:28 PM
If they are playing the role for real, instead of just walking onto the target like most "enemy" do then maybe the last minute.
haha good point. anyway, even if you are training for conventional warfare in arid environs, you would want to get used to the idea that you may not see the enemy until you step on them. If the training happen in Australia, then the enemy should be properly kitted out for Australian condition.
sickofpretenders
11-15-2005, 05:30 PM
The point is, office boy, that you think the ADF should waste its money on fancy clothes for the enemy to dress up in when there are so many better things we need that they could spend the money on. I betting your the kind of guy that is the first to stick his hand up when the dev guys come around to tell them the boots are great and they need a brew mug and gumpy pouch for your webbing.
Well your kind pissed me off when im in and your mindless pogue ranting is pissing me off now. Your agruing your point agaist 3 guys who collectively have more time out field looking for the opfor than you have had breakfasts (I know you eat 3 every day as well) but oh, no bugalugs the super pogue knows what the boys need out field.
Bugalugs
11-15-2005, 05:37 PM
The point is, office boy, that you think the ADF should waste its money on fancy clothes for the enemy to dress up in when there are so many better things we need that they could spend the money on.
The point is, we already spend money on enemy cams. It could be spent better on this new fabric in the future.
sickofpretenders
11-15-2005, 05:40 PM
Is that the pie truck? Better go get your pies for smoko
Bugalugs
11-15-2005, 05:40 PM
Well your kind pissed me off when im in and your mindless pogue ranting is pissing me off now.
I'm so sorry to "piss you off". It breaks my heart to think that I am putting you out by posting.
Bugalugs
11-15-2005, 05:42 PM
Is that the pie truck? Better go get your pies for smoko
are you mad??? theres no pie truck around here *sob*.
Trident355
11-15-2005, 06:30 PM
The point is, we already spend money on enemy cams. It could be spent better on this new fabric in the future.
What we are trying to get at Bugalugs is that what the enemy wear means **** all in the scheme of things.
You think the exercises in Australia are realistic? You know how ****ing different it is when REAL bullets are being fired at you? Wait a second, who am I talking to? Bugalugs. No I don't mean through accidental shootings by your pogue buddies. I'm talking when some prick is shooting AT YOU WITH REAL ROUNDS. You would have no ****ing clue about that.
But you have been deployed haven't you? I mean I saw your ebay add for the webbing saying it was "used *lightly* in Iraq." Of course it was used lightly, it was filled with all different types of donuts and your camelbak filled with coffee. Not to mention your spare laptop battery and optical mouse.
Bugalugs
11-15-2005, 06:41 PM
What we are trying to get at Bugalugs is that what the enemy wear means **** all in the scheme of things.
You think the exercises in Australia are realistic? You know how ****ing different it is when REAL bullets are being fired at you? Wait a second, who am I talking to? Bugalugs. No I don't mean through accidental shootings by your pogue buddies. I'm talking when some prick is shooting AT YOU WITH REAL ROUNDS. You would have no ****ing clue about that.
But you have been deployed haven't you? I mean I saw your ebay add for the webbing saying it was "used *lightly* in Iraq." Of course it was used lightly, it was filled with all different types of donuts and your camelbak filled with coffee. Not to mention your spare laptop battery and optical mouse.
it was a one line comment, a thought of mine i shared.
Your reaction is ridiculous, to say the least. It says a lot more about you than anyone. Think about it.
Trident355
11-15-2005, 06:45 PM
it was a one line comment, a thought of mine i shared.
Your reaction is ridiculous, to say the least. It says a lot more about you than anyone. Think about it.
I am. And I think you're a useless mess creating pogue.
Bugalugs
11-15-2005, 06:50 PM
I am. And I think you're a useless mess creating pogue.
****kiss****
Trident355
11-15-2005, 06:53 PM
Good to see you're keeping your pogue man loving skills up to date!
Bugalugs
11-15-2005, 06:58 PM
I learnt it all from 5/7 mate!
sethen
11-15-2005, 07:08 PM
It looks like German flectarn to me!
I learnt it all from 5/7 mate!
Your'e not princessRAR are you?
Bugalugs
11-15-2005, 09:22 PM
Your'e not princessRAR are you?
ouch!
no actually i'm Jack Mehoff
was Princess from 5/7?
I don't tell tales to policemen
On a different note.... BiZ did you ever see that funky red/orange russian OpFor camo in use? only time I saw it was when i was trying to nick **** from the Q and all they had were kepis
Eddo36
11-16-2005, 01:19 AM
Not trying to dog on anyone, but that Australian camo design is butt ugly. Almost up to par with the new Air Force BDU's.
On a different note.... BiZ did you ever see that funky red/orange russian OpFor camo in use? only time I saw it was when i was trying to nick **** from the Q and all they had were kepis
ADGies used it on Goods for a Commando raiding ex a few years back. Besides that and the 'promo' shoot shots I never saw it used on an ex.
Was supposed to come out during the "Musorian upgrade".
extra pockets and velcro like the new issue cams?
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/5313/09110512297hm.jpg
ADF seems to change their DPCU fabric supplier every few years (yay for the capitalist competitive marketplace). We're changing our cams now, maybe in ten or fifteen years time, eh?
also, desert auscam (DPDU) is only issued on an "as needed" basis i.e. just before (or even just after!) deployment.......
No way can you compare the new cams and their cost to the SORD version. The SORD version clearly has the 'special' expensive collar and a thousand metres more velcro, which we all know is $1000 per cm when it's in OD.
Bugalugs
11-16-2005, 02:54 AM
True, but why buy their design if its "over-engineered"? just buy the licence to the fabric!
BT_Recon
11-16-2005, 04:23 AM
So many crazy ego's in here... You guys need to relax a bit.
There's really not much velcro on the shirt. I think it looks good and practical. Maybe not for enemy party but.. who knows?
Bugalugs
11-16-2005, 04:25 AM
So many crazy ego's in here... You guys need to relax a bit.
There's really not much velcro on the shirt. I think it looks good and practical. Maybe not for enemy party but.. who knows?
have some good rep!
op centre
11-16-2005, 05:44 AM
I you like the photo ?
Creeper
11-16-2005, 10:25 AM
You Aussies are sure a rowdy bunch !
hammerlock
11-16-2005, 11:54 AM
"
There's really not much velcro on the shirt"
yeah it does have too much velcro, just US version this shirt is copying.
Mouse
11-16-2005, 04:41 PM
Am I the only one that's reminded of Flecktarn?
BT_Recon
11-16-2005, 06:53 PM
the website it does say "CAMOUFLAGE MK1:" and if you havent noticed, Sord is a pretty dynamic company when it comes to this kind of stuff.
It probably does'nt concern you what shape it is, or what cut the shirt is... but who knows what they're gonna do.
it could just be a concept demonstrator to trial.
lt_poncho
11-16-2005, 11:53 PM
Ah ****, I saw hard faced and thought we were going to talk about that kick ass jacket - change the thead name to **** faced...cause the talk here is like what you hear after a night of pints.
Gotta go test out my Hard Face again - there's a hard rain outside at 5c just asking for a contestant...
catalyst
11-17-2005, 12:03 AM
hard faced, oohh yeah......ask creeper as well....
TyroneBiggums
11-17-2005, 04:19 AM
i like it, if you look at the picture also on their website in the grassy area, it proves more effective. I'd like to see some pouches etc in this scheme.
RGRBOX
11-17-2005, 03:47 PM
I contacted them, and they were very nice, the way they told me to fvck off... don't do business with us common people..
SORD Australia
11-17-2005, 09:04 PM
I contacted them, and they were very nice, the way they told me to fvck off... don't do business with us common people..
It's not that we don't do business with common people, we just designed the cam for a specific purpose and organisation.
BT_Recon
11-17-2005, 09:24 PM
dude, look at it... it says government sales only.
its been in the coming soon section for ages on that website, its probably still a work in progress.
surely theres no need to get all huffy about it
Creeper
11-18-2005, 01:38 AM
Ah ****, I saw hard faced and thought we were going to talk about that kick ass jacket - change the thead name to **** faced...cause the talk here is like what you hear after a night of pints.
Gotta go test out my Hard Face again - there's a hard rain outside at 5c just asking for a contestant...
I need a few totally bent training evolutions in weather like that, unfortunately, it is sunny a warm 17C here in my ao. :|
RGRBOX
11-18-2005, 03:26 AM
dude, look at it... it says government sales only.
its been in the coming soon section for ages on that website, its probably still a work in progress.
surely theres no need to get all huffy about it
Not huffy about anything.... I too work with govn't orgs. but I don't not sale my gear... and I try not to post pics of stuff, I'm not planning on doing... I just wantted to see if they would sell this one to a collector like myself... but not huffy... when I get huffy, it's altogther a different story.... Like I said, they were nice to me, not many would even reply... be fvcked off was how I felt, but this isn't a bad term, just my language...
Corinthian
11-19-2005, 12:13 AM
http://www.cryeprecision.com/HTLM/products/field_shirt.htm
isn't it a copy of this
http://www.cryeprecision.com/HTLM/products/field_shirt.htm
isn't it a copy of this
Let's see....
SORD has...
Different styled arm pockets,
Different blousing of said arm pockets,
More velcro on said arm pockets,
Different chest pockets (even on a different angle and closure),
Different cuffs,
Differering throat tab closure,
...and obviously different Cam....
If the "comparison game" is going to be played why don't we roll out not only ACU but go a little further back to the days of the Red Coats.... they had pockets did they not? Obviously a stolen idea......
2/1kiwi
11-19-2005, 10:33 AM
looks better than than the current uniform, but looks don't count
Division Daguet
11-20-2005, 09:28 AM
The Police Cam unifom cut, or style, is just a concept demo. It was based on the US CCU trial uniform. In fact, the Police Cam uniform up to its 3rd version now. SORD has only put the 1st version up to show people what they are up to. SORD cant go giving away all its secrets now can it? The cam print is infact very much like the German and Jap cam, however other cam prints have been developed. For those interested in what the Govt pays for the Version 7 DPCU uniform ( made by ADI and CTM ) its $57 for the shirt and $ 56 for the trousers.
Bugalugs
12-12-2005, 10:52 PM
ADGies used it on Goods for a Commando raiding ex a few years back. Besides that and the 'promo' shoot shots I never saw it used on an ex.
Was supposed to come out during the "Musorian upgrade".I saw this iin a photo at one of teh Battalions a couple of weeks ago - not sure when it was taken but its a kooky pattern - makes the wearer look like they have some type of flesh-eating skin condition! didnt have my camera unfortunately
Uncle Sam
12-14-2005, 10:47 PM
BUG- Check your inbox
Bugalugs
12-14-2005, 10:54 PM
BUG- Check your inbox
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RAA_GnrCheck
12-16-2005, 05:27 AM
extra pockets and velcro like the new issue cams?
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/5313/09110512297hm.jpg
ADF seems to change their DPCU fabric supplier every few years (yay for the capitalist competitive marketplace). We're changing our cams now, maybe in ten or fifteen years time, eh?
just wondering when you got issues with these cams?? we dont have them yet, but i know the grunts in 6rar does
Bugalugs
12-16-2005, 05:37 AM
not mine, the photo is off another forum. SOCOM units are wearing them, i thought that was about it.
Now I hear everyone who wasnt posting out in 3 Bde got them a month or so ago. Dunno about 1 Bde but I presume the same deal there.
RGRBOX
12-16-2005, 04:47 PM
I'd give my kittens away for one of those... XL please..
tenda
12-16-2005, 05:19 PM
I'd give my kittens away for one of those... XL please..
x 2 that's another cool piece for my uniform collection...!!!:)
RGRBOX
12-17-2005, 02:35 PM
x 2 that's another cool piece for my uniform collection...!!!:)
Tanda... I like the Sponge bob avatar... you got one with ****...?
tenda
12-17-2005, 02:38 PM
Tanda... I like the Sponge bob avatar... you got one with ****...?
nope...i can give mine one..without **** but very exlusive...!!!!!!!!!!!p-) p-) p-)
RGRBOX
12-17-2005, 02:43 PM
I was hoping for ****...
tenda
12-18-2005, 10:01 AM
I was hoping for ****...
eheheh...rofl rofl
well someone have seen the goretex parka in acu...??????:roll:
RGRBOX
12-18-2005, 01:52 PM
eheheh...rofl rofl
well someone have seen the goretex parka in acu...??????:roll:
I can order them, if anyone is interested... but they're expensive...
I saw this iin a photo at one of teh Battalions a couple of weeks ago - not sure when it was taken but its a kooky pattern - makes the wearer look like they have some type of flesh-eating skin condition! didnt have my camera unfortunately
Just to bring up an old thread...
"Musorian DPCU"
The official Army release photo.
http://xs64.xs.to/pics/06032/Mus1.JPG.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs64&d=06032&f=Mus1.JPG)
2AFDG wearing the camo on Goodes for OPFOR to 1CDO.
http://xs64.xs.to/pics/06032/Mus2.JPG.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs64&d=06032&f=Mus2.JPG)
http://xs64.xs.to/pics/06032/mus4.JPG.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs64&d=06032&f=mus4.JPG)
Bugalugs
01-17-2006, 12:33 AM
Ah, the memories........
great photos, thanks
....and one more that I forgot I scanned up a while ago.
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/9210/mus35vj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Bugalugs
01-19-2006, 03:19 PM
great stuff- thanks for that biz
RGRBOX
01-19-2006, 03:57 PM
Hey Bug, is that a pic of Scarlet Johansson? I wouold give one of my ball awys to see that chick buck naked.... or better yet in ****o..
Bugalugs
01-19-2006, 04:03 PM
Hey Bug, is that a pic of Scarlet Johansson? I wouold give one of my ball awys to see that chick buck naked.... or better yet in ****o..
its supposed to be a gif of her **** getting fondled as the golden globes - look at the thread "i have a new hero" in OT
RGRBOX
01-19-2006, 04:10 PM
its supposed to be a gif of her **** getting fondled as the golden globes - look at the thread "i have a new hero" in OT
Thanks Bugs... I just saw your post about her in the Humor section... great dude...
Aldo Penniconi
11-16-2008, 10:31 PM
The Wiki claims the "Red Auscam" suprisingly turned out very effective during trials.
https://www.pyro-tection.com/rescueshop/catalog/images/peacekeeper%20jacket.jpg
The Wiki claims the "Red Auscam" suprisingly turned out very effective during trials.
https://www.pyro-tection.com/rescueshop/catalog/images/peacekeeper%20jacket.jpg
Awesome thread revival. :roll:
Pity the photo pictured isn't the 'red' DPCU anyways...and as always, who trusts Wikipedia as a 'source'?
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